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10.28.2009 6:23 pm

How does 41 now beat 59?

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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I have just one question about the healthcare debate and the now permanent threat of filibuster. If we live in a democracy, why is it that in the U.S. Senate, 41 votes now beats 59 votes? Can anyone seriously defend that?
 
Scott Miller
St. Louis
46 comments

You’re right! This is so unfair! We need new rules! How about this: whenever Obama wants a bill passed, it only needs one vote to pass and no fillibuster is allowed. Whenever Obama opposses a bill, it needs 100 votes to pass the Senate. This seems fair!

— Try this
6:37 pm October 28th, 2009

–You better double-check your math Scott, at LEAST, 8 democrats who’d like to keep their jobs aren’t toeing the “company” line.

–In fact, even the “nuclear option” is in serious trouble of detonating.

— dr-debunk
6:38 pm October 28th, 2009

“If we live in a democracy”

We dont, its a representative republic.

— Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum
6:45 pm October 28th, 2009

You are right sivis, but whose wishes are represented, the lobbys or the peoples?

— Lunar Chiroptera
7:26 pm October 28th, 2009

It takes 60 votes in the senate to stop debate, not to pass a bill into law. They just don’t have the collective guts to tell someone who is talking to hear himself talk to sit down and shut up.

— hs
7:52 pm October 28th, 2009

Constitutional Republic (…and to the Republic, for which it stands…)

— egoist
8:11 pm October 28th, 2009

“You are right sivis, but whose wishes are represented, the lobbys or the peoples?
— Lunar Chiroptera ”

Well it isnt the people. Both parties have their own set of Special INterests they are beholden too, and both parties care ONLY about power: Either remaining in power or regaining it.

— Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum
8:29 pm October 28th, 2009

Hey Scott, I think you missed civics class, among many other leftist! By the way, were you complaining when the Republicans were the Majority?

— superdave
8:30 pm October 28th, 2009

41 beats 59 the same way the Democrats threatened to fillibuster Bush’s Supreme Court nominees, which had never been done before in the history of out nation. What goes around comes around…and you gotta love it!

— Shtaven
9:27 pm October 28th, 2009

shtaven, so when does it stop? When do we start acting like serious grownups instead of whining 12 year olds? (and I include myself in the ‘we’)

— hs
5:34 am October 29th, 2009

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