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11.09.2009 4:44 pm

United States is divided over national health care

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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The dispute over how, where and from whom the people of this country should get universal health care has divided us into multiple divisions.

There are protests held with banners from every perspective of this issue, none of which contributes to any better understanding or solution to this serious question. As so often is the case in similar issues, there is more heat than light.

This applies to Congress and the U. S. Senate as well. Generally speaking, the Republican members of these two bodies have said, “No” to those plans coming from the Democrats and there are even some Democrats who say, “Maybe,” but only if some major changes are first made.

This leads to the obvious question for our U. S. Senators and Congressmen: Where do you get your health care? From your personal insurance plan? From the U. S. government? Just who pays the greatest percentage of your health care costs? You or someone else?

According to the national news sources, it’s the tax dollars that I, and the rest of us, pay to the federal government each April 15 that relieves you of paying the huge costs of your personal health care.

This brings me to the question: How can you sit in judgment as to whether we, the general citizen, should be insured by the same source as you? After all, you remain a common citizen, even though we honor you by sending you to Washington, D.C. to look after our national affairs, where you live rather high off the hog, wined and dined by the insurance lobbyists who give millions of dollars to your political campaign chests.

This causes me to be a bit skeptical, as to your motives in rejecting national health care for the rest of us. You can prove me wrong on this issue: just pass a bill that denies you any taxpayer funded health insurance. I won’t hold my breath until you comply with this suggestion.

Percy Pascoe

Cuba, MO

18 comments

There continues to be two starkly different groups of people in this country. The HAVES and the HAVE NOTS. Those of us who kept our nose clean, studied hard in school, worked hard at a job, stayed away from drugs and crime, stayed married to the same spouse, and managed–thru hard work–to accumulate some money and enjoy a somewhat comfortable life style, WILL CERTAINLY PAY for the the lazy, the drop outs, the illegals, the druggies’ health care. They pay no taxes now, so their health care will be given to them from a socialist government who will confiscate taxes from us at an accelerated pace. What is fair about that?

— frank
6:03 pm November 9th, 2009

frank, you are insane!

— Tim Hogan
6:25 pm November 9th, 2009

The U.S. is one of the few places in the world where getting sick can bankrupt you. If all those other countries can provide universal health care, why can’t we?

— certified
10:30 pm November 9th, 2009

certifiable:

“The U.S. is one of the few places in the world where getting sick can bankrupt you. If all those other countries can provide universal health care, why can’t we?:

The US is the only place in the world where a major illness is more acceptable than bankruptcy. If given the choice, a reasonable person might select the chance to start over financially but not the cranks on the left.(but then, whoever said they were reasonable?)

Why should I pay to insure your visits to the doctor for a cigarette cough, sniffles, delusions caused by ingesting controlled substances, sexually transmitted disease or an erection lasting more than 4 days? Fercrysakes, 80 percent of the horrendous burden of bureaucratic paperwork (*) costs to file claims are wasted on what could and should be paid out of pocket by the patient.

(*)See any or all of Lisa12’s sickening paeans to PNHP for confirmation. Some won’t be satisfied until everybody is a ward of the state and they and others in the ruling class can take from some to magnanimously award to others.

— Iconoclastic Sage
6:49 am November 10th, 2009

Many in this country are uninsured through no fault of their own. They lost their job and can’t find another with benefits. They got sick and their insurer dropped them. They have a pre-existing condition and can’t find an individual policy they can afford, if they can find an insurer that will take them at all. The reasons go on and on.

Here is a fact we must accept. When you put a plan in place to insure everyone, that plan will include people described above and it will also include people who have made poor personal choices and/or live an unhealthy lifestyle. Personally, I can live with that.

— What I Say
8:08 am November 10th, 2009

Icon,
There you go again, everything is a neat little box for you isn’t it. Anyone who can’t afford healthcare is a deadbeat, a druggie, or god forbid a liberal.
You sit there fat and happy on your medicare, and spout this trash! Oh I know you paid for it, because you had a job and worked hard for all those years. Well many of your neighbors have worked hard too, and now they are out of a job and need a hand, but you turn your back to them. You must be so proud, what a fine example of citizenship and christianity you are setting for your grandchildren

— Sam
8:43 am November 10th, 2009

Icon,
And before you start…I’ve been paying into Medicare since it’s inception, just as long as you have, I’m just not old enough to reap the benefits.

— Sam
8:58 am November 10th, 2009

Sam:

“Icon,
There you go again, everything is a neat little box for you isn’t it. Anyone who can’t afford healthcare is a deadbeat, a druggie, or god forbid a liberal.”

Overlooking your redundancy enumerating those who can’t afford healthcare, in polite society, “God” is always capitalized. Many people agree with me that major medical expenses should be assisted by insurance but picking up the tab for a professional athlete disabled by a stubborn hangnail or the cost of erectile dysfunction aids for Warren Buffett or Bill Gates Sr., leftist loons are pushing the envelope.

Liberals who think insurance companies wallow in the money picked from the pockets of sick people are free to start their own insurance company that will insure regardless of pre-existing conditions, pay any and all claims without challenge, refuse to market their product and pay management minimum wage or less. If you wouldn’t do it, why should you have the government act in your stead?

It would appear that there are more than enough benevolents with gilded pumps on this and other blogs that prefer to scold rather than put their money where their mouth is.

Conservatives may not invest in your enterprise because like your segment of society, it’s a loser.

— Iconoclastic Sage
9:17 am November 10th, 2009

Sam:

“Oh I know you paid for it, because you had a job and worked hard for all those years. Well many of your neighbors have worked hard too, and now they are out of a job and need a hand, but you turn your back to them. You must be so proud, what a fine example of citizenship and christianity you are setting for your grandchildren.”

It is because of my concern for my neighbors and grandchildren that I oppose another Ponzi Scheme operated by the government. The immediate gratification gained by the unfortunates and greedy in the current something for nothing scheme will be replaced by grief when it’s discovered that it ends up like Social Security and Medicare, flat out busted and begging.

http://christopherfountain.com/2009/10/20/the-trouble-with-socialism-is-that-sooner-or-later-you-run-out-of-money-maragret-thatcher/

— Iconoclastic Sage
11:18 am November 10th, 2009

go get him, sam…

notice you got no comment on him being on Medicare…

or being able to see a doctor…

what happened bunky?

conscience got your tongue?

— llbean
11:37 am November 10th, 2009

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