Wait a minute…let me see if I have this right. “Why aren’t there more shootings at police stations because there’s more guns at police stations….That’s your logic? Because there’s few shootings at gun-shows and gun shops we should hang out there…That’s your logic?

You want to make the entire country a military base were everyone carries a firearm because that kind of a society will make us all safe….That’s your logic?

Simple task: Compare the number of guns in this country and the number of gun related deaths, with the same statistics of any other civilized country….Then tell me we need more guns and more armed citizens to make us safer.

Hmmm….

Gee, it almost sounds like you can’t bring yourself to admit that the problem isn’t with the inanimate objects but with the people holding them.

I *am* looking at the statistics and they say that the more legally armed people you have in an area, the safer it tends to be.

Are you perhaps looking at the statistics that show that the more criminals you have in an area the less safe it tends to be? Or the ones showing that criminals will use guns even though it means they’re breaking even more laws? It can’t be the ones from England and Austrailia - they show gun crime going *up* right along with the gun bans.

Some people will blame inanimate objects for what happened in Kirkwood last night. The fact of the matter is a man - who was seriously deranged - took revenge on those who thought wronged him. He could have done it with a baseball bat, hammer, or car.

This man was out to get revenge - nothing was going to stop him - not having a gun would only have made him find another tool to kill with. The killer’s mother even went on record to say she WASN’T surprised he did something like this - THAT’S HIS MOTHER saying those things. Maybe someone should have gotten “Cookie” some help.

I agree with the above statements about the “Killing Zones” - Law abiding citizens follow the laws, remember - we are a nation of laws. If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns - it’s a fact. In Missouri we have some of the most constructionist gun-laws in the USA, citizens can carry guns assuming they take the necessary training and apply for the correct permits to do so. This doesn’t however allow those people (law abiding citizens remind you) to carry their weapon in to a government/public meeting…

This isn’t about putting MORE guns on the street - it’s about people taking care of their own safety and protecting themselves from crazed individuals hell-bent on hurting someone. If that means that someone gets a dog to walk with them at night - it’s a step in the right direction. Criminals will always be just that - criminals.

I guess I’m a “gun nut” by your definition. I guess that makes you an uninformed “sheeple” by mine.

Garrison, regardig your “simple task”, are you aware that the PER CAPITA murder rate in Washington DC is HIGHER than that of Iraq? Translated: you are more likley to be killed in our nations capitol than in the middle of a war zone! Statistics prove that CCW lowers violent crime and more restrictive gun laws result in more crime; When Florida passed law to allow CCW, rape, muggings and murders declined. Vermont and Alaska have virtualy zero gun laws, yet they have a lower per capita violent crime rate than New York City and Washington DC (two places with among the most restrictive gun laws). What does your “logic” say about that?

Bottom line is THE GUN ISN’T AT FAULT. Guns don’t kill people. People kill people. What if he had come in there and murdered these innocent people with a machette? What if he had aquired a large amount of high explosives and killed EVERYONE in that room?

Common sense isn’t too common these days…

I see the liberals could not wait to jump on this. The GUN is not the problem. The CRIMINAL is the problem. In this case, I feel for the cops and their families. I think also that this guy was targeted by the council. While I disagree with the venue he chose to express his disappointment in the violation of his rights as a human being and a businessman, I do believe he had the right to take these lily white innocents in the council and give them a nice big bear hug while giveing them a head butt too. They were arrogant. They did not deserve the death penalty, and he sure did not deserve to be treated the way he was. I know he went to court. I also realize the liberal judges will never give in to individual rights, but only to government “rights”. Those shot inside the council meeting could have had the right to carry, but they chose not to. It cost them their lives.

Well, looks like the gun lobby is in full force. Why stop with guns? As long as you don’t fear inanimate objects, let’s look at a few more? Nuclear weapons don’t kill people, people do. Let’s arm every country with nuclear war heads in order to make the world SAFE for democracy.

As Jim mentions above…The weapon is not the problem. The insane criminal or ruthless dictator is the propblem. Hell, if everybody owned hand grenades we wouldn’t have to worry about war at all…..

Makes about as much sense.

Hey Garrison,

Try to take them away and see how many die.

Guns are not the problem people. The fall of society is. Nobody is taught right from wrong anymore.

Mrs Garrison, does it bother you that your position of seizing all guns is the exact same position that so many dictators in history took in their quest for power? Once the populace is disarmed, they are easy to oppress.

Garrison - “(If) You want to express your sympathy cry on “Talk of the Day”. It was YOU that turned this into an argument about gun control which is NOT what this thread was about. For all your claims of being a compassioniate person, I don’t believe you really care. It’s just another opportunity to “prove” you are “right.” There is a time and place and this isn’t it. Your behavior and comments are utterly disgusting and what little respect I had for you is completely gone (not that you care).

Now I am going to go “cry” (as you sarcastically put it) on Talk of the Day. My heart breaks for the victims in this tragedy.

Had to delete a post by “Garrison” because of inappropriate language.