Sorry, Mr. Hubbard, Obama took all the race cards. You’ll have to come up with something else.

I for one will never go to Johnnies to be served lunch, dinner, or drinks by those bikini wearing waitresses ever again.

Shame on you Johnny’s patrons for ruining a decent mans day, having a beer, and ogling a woman in a bikini.

Apparently more than skin was reviled at johnnies today!

Nick,

Those three Black men have no credibility, is that how you feel? But, those two bikini clad wearing waitresses do, no doubt White waitress. The owner knows nothing first hand, but spoke so knowingly. Sounds just like America to me.

And how American like of you, some things have NOT really changed all that much in the hearts of Americans, has it?

But, we have a legal system that is much worst, totally and entirely racist, corrupt and unjust.

I have to wonder what is wrong with Johnny Daus that he thinks his response is appropriate. Rodney Hubbard has no reason to lie about this and he does not have a history of distorting the truth, so I think more investigation would be called for than just asking two waitresses and declaring everything was fine.

What do you expect after everybody thinks it’s alright for a black man to bash America and all it’s white people? And the forerunner for the Presidential nominee backs him up and blames all of America for the so-called racism against blacks that supposedly exists—eventhough AACP creates and hands out jobs hand over fist to minorities including Afro-Americans. Although we continue to give our money to the federal govmt. to dole out for welfare to minorities–but oh no, we Americans are so racist!

Oh yeah, Walker, the justice system is just so racist. We can’t help it all the blacks commit most the crimes and fill the prisons to overcapacity. Just watch the news everynight, all they show are the drive-by shootings in North St. Louis and East St. Louis.

Well, well. Now it’s politically incorrect to make a visual assessment of the patrons of an establishment.

Satan’s little operatives are feeling uneasy now, aren’t they. Too many in numbers are wanting change and to do better in our race relations in this country and Satan’s little workers of inequity are exposing themselves, taking off their masks behaving very very foolish. One of the things I can do now that I use to not be able to genuinely do is pray for God to bless you and change your hearts to reflect His will for your lives.

Let’s pray for you Walker and what you call rich rugrats who attend Harvard!

This is shameful and it is time for Representative Rodney Hubbard to resign. No candidate for Senator should be in a bar like Johhny’s full of naked women during a campaign. This makes Democrat’s family values look bad, African-American men look horrible, the cry of protesting real discrimination against African-Americans look cheap, and African-American politicians look backwards.

Johnny’s is not a proper place to get into a fight for Senatorial candidates, the floor of the Senate is the proper place to conduct battles. Johnny’s is an establishment that those of a different persuasion get together to date each other, and the women are definitely close to naked.

Good thing Rodney Hubbard is not married, and this is not the place to meet your wife. Instead of going to Johnny’s to meet your wife, Johnny’s is the best place in St. Louis to meet someone for that night.

“Once you go whack, you can never go back!”

The comments in this thread are embarassing, to say the least.

That being said, I was at Johnny’s 2 days ago and I love that place. Though I probably would stay out of there if I were running for public office.

D. Walker - The waitresses, so far as I can tell, have no reason to lie. Hubbard, on the other hand, stands to benefit tremendously from the reporting on this incident, and the sympathy it will generate amongst his constituents. That still doesn’t mean he is a liar - it could have been a misunderstanding too.

And by the way, I’m not sure why their attire is relevant to their verity. If women who serve drinks in bikinis are liars, what about the men who patronize them?

I cannot believe this is about race as much as it is about Egos. I’ve been going to Johnny’s for years and can tell you that this is a place where everyone tells you their ‘big whoppers stories’ . Everyone’s a millionaire, everyone’s been a sports star, everyone knows someone, everyone’s important. It’s nothing more than that. It was too much alcohol for someone who couldn’t handle it and didn’t like being outdone by a ‘bigger fish story’.

If: and I say if because I wasn’t there, racial remarks were said, it is a reflection on the individual and not the establishment. Trust me, Johnny would not put up with that. Period, end of story.

As far as the girls, get over it. Yes they’re beautiful and wear basically nothing. That’s not against the law. Place an order, you’ll get great service and a quality product. The food is outstanding and the beers are cold. Johnny’s has the best ‘Wings’ in the city and you can get almost any sporting event on TV there.

Don’t trash Johnny because some idiot made a racial remark. I’ll argue that’s a problem of poor parenting more than anything else and this guy should be a poster child for the Pro Choice movement. Decent people will tell you that,

2 reasons to Boycot Johnnys

1) Its in the city and we all know that we are boycoting the city because of slay.

2) Some patrons are alegedly racist.

Lets make a statment…. go to the wonderful clubs of East St. Louis!

Remember there is no sex in the champaign room… but theirs no racism eather!

#9-Bill,

Why do people overreact about such stupid things?

Rugrat is actually a adoring term used for children, what are you insinuating, I call my own little pumpkins, rugrats.

Neither do you comprehend what you read well. My statement under that other thread was that a particular person could still send his rugrats to Harvard…

Is that calling ones who attend Harvard rugrats.

Off the subject a minute here…I was watching channel 5 and a Bin Ladin message with his picture and words captions under just high jacked the KSDK network interruping it with a message stating that we were stupid and so on….. Let’s end proving Bin Ladin correct.

Correction: I should have said, let’s not CONTINUE to prove him correct.

D Walker (or anyone else)

Let us ASSUME that everything happened just the way Rodney Hubbard said it did.

Why make it public?

Johnny didn’t do anything… nor is it alleged that any of his people did. Why ‘punish’ him? Does Hubbard “want” anything from him?

Is Hubbard looking to say… sue the two (drunk) customers? Does he think that after all this these people will come forward?

The only reason Hubbard has for doing anything other than laugh this off as ‘two drunk crackers’ is for all the play the media will give it. Publicity… nothing more nothing less.

Britney flashing = Rodney Hubbard telling a story.

So the restaurant is claiming that someone was right next to the men at all times listening to every word? The waitresses claims sound quite unbelievable to me. I agree with the Senator’s statement that we have a very long way to go regarding the racial divide in this country. I remember a young black college student that I worked with in the St. Louis area who told me that he was harassed on the way home from bowling on a Friday night. He said it happened to him and his black college friends at least once a month. This was a very intelligent and polite young man, who made the decision not to leave home on Friday evenings so he didn’t have to deal with harassment by white police officers and white locals. It’s a shame that people of color still receive so much hostility in America simply because their skin is a different hue than someone else. It shows we ALL still have a lot of work to do.

One question. Were the men right. Is it a white bar?

Chris, if you can find one willing to do it, get a white person to walk down the street of say Pine Lawn or down North Grand and Natural Bridge and see if they don’t get a hostile reaction. That is of course if they are able to get home at all.

Folks act as if racism only exist in the form of whites harming blacks. There is just as much coming in the opposite direction.

Ghetto Fact of the Day: The safest man in the ‘hood is a white man.

The Truth,

I love your Ghetto Fact of the Day because it is so true.

Amazedbythelunacy like so many other White men have so much unfounded fear, don’t they?

Unless the white man has a pocket to pick.

Unfounded fear, sheesh! The Blacks will rip you blind and shoot you for a quarter.

A white person can’t even drive through East St. louis without getting carjacked!

East St. Louis is the most dangerous city in the US because of the black population.

And, of course, there’s a quota on just how much racism can exist in the country at any given time, so after the massive Ferraro infraction, it’s doubtful that there was enough racism left in for Rep. Hubbard to be affected by.

Also a quota of just how many scantily-clad women can be in the news at one time, and Ms. Kristin has cornered the market on THAT, too. Really, we shouldn’t have any problems at all in Missouri right now.

Yes, by all means we have to fulfill those mandated quotas in hiring, too.

“We all Know”, “kevin”, and “Amazedbythelunacy” you have nothing to offer but racist generalizations.

You are trash.

I promise to quote your comments whenever I see your work on this site.

You are trash and I will let every one else know you are trash.

The first amendment lets me do that.

Little bean counter I will post your trash comments all over these blogs, likewise. Dweeb!

Can’t stand the truth? Be a Man and admit it!

Bean counter and D walker are on in the same! HA!

Personal attacks, D Walker, will not be tolerated on this blog.

Rodney Hubbard is married. His lovely wife Shameem Clark-Hubbard is the chair of his well respected and politically correct ” Women for Hubbard ” Committee. A committee comprised of American women; Black, White, Christian, Muslim and others. As a candidate for Missouri State Senate, Mr. Hubbard should feel comfortable patronizing establishments in this state regardless of their location, staff or clientele. If Mr. Hubbard consistently dined at northside, downtown, high-end or minority restaurants and clubs, no doubt everyone would have a problem with that. Mr. Daus’ response was cowardly. However it is his problem that he chose to deny the allegations as opposed to taking a stance that could set a standard for acceptable behavior in his popular south-side establishment. Ultimately, this will be his loss. With regards to Barack Obama. Rodney Hubbard has been a staunch supporter and that support pre-dates Mr Obama’s decision to run for President. For those of you posting on this blog, please get your facts straight before you disseminate inaccurate and harmful information. If Mr. Hubbard wins this election, many of you will be first in line smiling in his face and asking for favors. More power to the Hubbard power train!!!

Your absolutely right Dori Ewell. One can imagine that Rodney Hubbard’s wife is lovely, and his previous wives were likely lovely too. However, his wives were not the customers in Johnny’s, Rodney Hubbard was the customer. Many people say that visiting Johnny’s too often can lead to divorce-just ask Rodney. He has the divorce proceedings conquered!

By the way, are you saying that the Women for Hubbard organization comprised of blacks, whites, Christians and etc., support the actions of Rodney Hubbard going to T&A bars with half naked women prancing around. That is one hell of a women’s organization if they do!

While were on the subject of women and wives, most husband’s with lovely, well respected wives avoid T&A bars during the lunch hour and after the lunch hour. If they do decide to frequent a business establishment with half naked women, they don’t run out and call the police for help when the action gets too hot! Can’t stand the heat, stay out of Johnny’s.

Lastly, Senator Barack Obama had no idea that while he was out campaigning hard to win the Presidential election, Rodney Hubbard was in Johnny’s with half naked white women. If it is an all white bar, the women must have been white. Dori you may want to jump off that train, but it depends on what type of power you are seeking.

#30 and #31,

Real funny. Ha, Ha, Ha. Grow-up!

#31 “Personal attacks, D Walker, will not be tolerated on this blog.

Comment by Jamie — March 20th, 2008 at 8:37 pm ”

But racist generalizations will be tolerated?

Facts, not generalizations. There is a big difference. Keep your mumbo jumbo to yourself. #35

Nobody on here is saying that 100% of the blacks are trouble, only about 50-75% cause trouble and crimes.

Keep my “mumbo jumbo” to myself? I can’t decide what is funnier, you denying my right to an opinion on the subject or the term “mumbo jumbo”.

So, what you are saying is that #24’s statement (below) is “fact”.
“Unfounded fear, sheesh! The Blacks will rip you blind and shoot you for a quarter.
Comment by Kevin — March 20th, 2008 at 6:16 pm ”

Where is your data to back up your “fact” that 3 out of 4 black folks are the cause of trouble and crimes? Or even 1 of 2?

Those indeed are not facts, they are generalizations. Generalizations that have no basis in fact. Scott, I truly am sorry that you are so ignorant to make the statement that you did.

You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to compare crime statistic numbers for the inner black city to the white suburbs to see a dramatice rise in crimes.

Why is East St. Louis the most dangerous city in the US? Are there any whites who live there?

Just tune in the local news at 5 and you tell me where do all the shootings occur each day? North St. Louis. There is nothing you can deny about it.

How many shootings/killings occur in the suburbs….very little if not none.

And who resides in the suburbs, oh I don’t know, uh, maybe the whites? Oh yeah, that’s right. I don’t see any blacks in the suburbs except working fast food.

Let’s ask Joe Mokwa….I’m sure he would agree.

Again, these are generalizations. You have no figures to back up what you write about. Who stated East St Louis was the most dangerous city? Based on what crime stats?
Again, where are your stats? Show me one or two sources that back up what you are saying?

Really, what a news source picks to show you is hardly relevant? Anyone here who complains about the Post’s coverage of politics will back that up.

How many killings occur in the suburbs? Let’s see…there was that Post reporter whose killer appeared on the front page today. Both white, by the way.
Ummm…the handful of campus shootings. None in the inner city. All done by non-African Americans.

That’s just some off the top of my head to refute your “very little if none” statement. Again, where is your data to back up your “fact” that 3 out of 4 black folks are the cause of trouble and crimes? Or even 1 of 2? I’m from Missouri. You have to show me!

You’ve only listed isolated incidents….what about every day and I mean every day on the news another shooting in North St. Louis….Yes, St. Louis tops NY, LA, and Detroit in murders…I’ll scope the references to back it up, hold on…….It’s been on the news and in the papers for two years now, though. I’m just surprised you never heard this before.

SUZY—Ask and ye shall receive:
The hard truth—(the mentally ill boy that lived in an apt. in West Co is a very isolated case):—-

The Color of Crime: Study on Racial Differences Released
By Nicholas Stix (10/06/05)

Imagine if one demographic group in America were 33 times more prone to commit crimes than another group. How would you feel about the relatively crime-prone group? The relatively crime-free group? Wouldnt you want to know about such differences?

But we dont have to imagine anything. The above contrast was not a hypothetical case, but rather the statistical relationship of black to Asian crime in America, as detailed in the new report, The Color of Crime, released by the New Century Foundation, the organization that sponsors American Renaissance magazine.

* between 2001 and 2003, blacks were 39 times more likely to commit violent crimes against whites than the reverse, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.

* Between 2001 and 2003, blacks committed, on average, 15,400 black-on-white rapes per year, while whites averaged only 900 white-on-black rapes per year.

* Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.

But there are five-and-one-half as many whites as blacks. If anything, the numbers should be reversed. After all, as leftists always tell us, all groups are supposed to be equally represented in all categories, for good or ill. (Well, not really. Leftists never call on the NBA and NFL to institute racial parity for white players.)

* Nationally, youth gangs are 90 percent non-white. Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.

* The only crime category in which Asians are more heavily represented than whites is illegal gambling.

* Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.

But how can that be, when for years commentators of all political persuasions have insisted that the majority of the victims of black crime are themselves black? But it has been true for some time, because blacks increasingly target whites based on the color of the latter skin. The commentators have been guilty variously of lying or laziness.

* Far from being guilty of racially profiling innocent blacks, police have been exercising racial bias on behalf of blacks, arresting fewer blacks than their proportion of criminals: blacks who committed crimes that were reported to the police were 26 percent less likely to be arrested than people of other races who committed the same crimes.

* ¦ police are determined to arrest non-black rather than black criminals. (I have seen this practice in operation on the streets and subways of New York.)

* Blacks] are eight times more likely than people of other races to rob someone, for example, and 5.5 times more likely to steal a car.

Well, as everyone knows, innocent blacks get rounded up by the police all the time, so we can safely ignore such statistics. After all, isnt that what the NAACP, Village Voice, New York Times, and countless black activists and prominent academics have been saying for years? And although the folks insisting on the reality of racial profiling have no facts to back up their claims, they enjoy political prestige and moral authority. The Color of Crime, meanwhile, is based merely on lowly facts. As we shall see, prominent people are already saying that we should ignore The Color of Crime, because it wasn’t produced by the right sort of people. (And of course, the right sort of people never tells the truth about race and crime.)

* Charges of racial profiling, which maintain that police target innocent black motorists for traffic stops notwithstanding, a 2002 study by Maryland’s Public Service Research Institute found that police were stopping too few black speeders (23%), compared to their proportion of actual speeders (25%). In fact, blacks were twice as likely to speed as whitesi n general, and there was an even higher frequency of black speeders in the 90-mph and higher range.

* the only evidence for police bias is disproportionate arrest rates for those groups police critics say are the targets of bias. High black arrest rates appear to reflect high crime rates, not police misconduct.

* Blacks not only commit violent crimes at far higher rates than non-blacks, but their crimes are more violent than those of whites. Blacks are three times as likely as non-blacks to commit assault with guns, and twice as likely as non-blacks to commit assault with knives.

* Blacks not only commit violent crimes at far higher rates than whites, but blacks commit white collar offenses — fraud, bribery, racketeering and embezzlement, respectively — at two to five times the white rate.

* The single greatest indicator of an areas crime rate is not poverty or education, but race and ethnicity. Even when one controls for income, the black crime rate is much higher than the white rate.

Things are actually much worse than the above notes suggest. As The Color of Crime notes, the feds inflate white crime statistics by counting Hispanic offenders as white; at the same time, Hispanics are a [hate crime] victim category but not a perpetrator category. If someone attacks a Mexican for racial reasons, he becomes a Hispanic victim of a hate crime. However, if the same Mexican commits a hate crime against a black, he is classified as a white™ perpetrator. Even more absurdly, if a Mexican commits a hate crime against a white, both victim and perpetrator are reported as white. Thus, the number of white perpetrators is exaggerated, while the number of white victims is constricted by the federal double-standard.

And as the study fails to note, with black-on-white male prison rape an institutionalized sport among black inmates, hundreds of thousands of white men have thus been victimized but never counted by the government. Meanwhile, white-on-black male prison rape is virtually non-existent.

Some of the study™s many sources were the FBI™s Uniform Crime Reports (UCRs); the feds™ National Crime Victimization Study (NCVS), in which 149,000 people across the country, in statistical proportion to all demographic groups, were called; the National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS); and Supplemental Homicide Reports (SHRs); State Court Processing Statistics (SCPS); National Youth Gang Survey; the Federal Justice Statistics Program (FJSP); and National Corrections Reporting Program (NCRP). The succinct report slays dragons in the course of mere footnotes, such as its nailing of tenured California State University criminology professor Phyllis B. Gerstenfeld, who in her book Hate Crimes: Causes, Controls and Controversies, the reality of interracial violence be damned, depicted whites only as perpetrators, and not as the victims of hate crimes.

The Color of Crime not to be confused with a 1998 piece of propaganda of the same name by tenured University of Maryland professor of criminology, Katheryn K. Russell — is the most scientifically rigorous research on crime and race available. It’s the state of the art.

And the mentally ill boy-white lived in an apartment so his father could continue to work as a greeter at the Chesterfield Wal-Mart.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/12/06/national/main532163

(AP) St. Louis has become the nation’s most dangerous city, snapping Detroit’s three-year run with that inauspicious label, according to a Kansas company’s yearly ranking.

A spokesman for Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick said the city expects to fall farther down the list in coming years.

“Basically, we’re not surprised that’s Detroit fallen from the top of the list like that,” Jamaine Dickens said. “We found that while crime is going up in other parts of country, in Detroit it’s going down.”

On the heels of St. Louis and Detroit among the nation’s most-dangerous cities were Atlanta, Gary, Ind., and Baltimore, according to Morgan Quitno’s rankings, now in their ninth year.

The rankings are based on a city’s rate for six crime categories: murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, burglary and motor vehicle theft. All cities of at least 75,000 residents that reported crime data to the FBI for the six crime categories were included in the rankings.

MOST DANGEROUS 25:

1
St. Louis, MO

2
Detroit, MI

Well, those are some stats. But they are NOT stats to back up your 50-75% of Blacks are the committers of crime. Not comparisons to other skin color. Not comparisons to other cities.
Show me the stat that backs up that statement that either 1 in 2 African Americans or 3 in 4 African Americans are committing these crimes!

The “fact” is that you CAN’T put your money where your mouth is, because no such statistic exists.

Ha!
Nicholas Stix? A \”conservative\” rants from his blog is hardly unbaised material. Scott should move to Norway where he will not be bothered by all the scary Black people.

If you want to refute the FBI crime statistics, then you are guilty of racism against whites. That is the only racism that is ocurring…just look at the stats.

With those stats, Suzy, you figure out the actual percentage of blacks who are guilty of wrongdoing…it certainly outpaces the white percentage…probably 30 times more likely given that it is already 7 times more likely not taking into effect the large numbers of the white population compared to the relatively small population of blacks—-yet the smaller population of blacks is 7 times more likely to commit violent crimes. There’s just no disputing that.

Maybe you are one of the non-statistics, Suzy..and I applaud you for that.

#47 Dave: “Maybe you are one of the non-statistics, Suzy..and I applaud you for that.”

Oh, that’s mighty white of you Dave. But, humorous.

Again, nowhere in these “stats” did they back up Scott’s claim that 50-75% of the Black population is committing crimes. In addition, he didn’t produce FBI statistics. He produced an “article” written by someone who references a report that is supposedly based on some crime statistics. This is 3rd hand information. It is academic laziness at its best. Probably the result of a Google search, not true research.

For all we know either the article or the report cherry picked statistics to prove their point.

That aside, the underlying thing was that Scott claimed to not be posting generalizations but facts. He has not proven that. I believe it is because he cannot prove his outlandish and outrageous statement. Thus, I am done debating his “nothingness”.

Sure, Suzy Q, can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

ALL FACTS BY THE FBI. HARD, COLD FACTS.

If it makes you feel better, just ignore them and move on. BUT WE ALL KNOW THE FACTS NOW.

CBS NEWS stories-I guess we should not listen to either–2nd hand information.

Do you have any first-hand information you researched by yourself to support anything to the contrary? I think not. Point made.

East St. Louis and North St. Louis are so safe. I think I’ll have my preschool children have an outdoor slumber party there tonight. They’ll be perfectly safe I’m sure with all the sweet non-gang member non-dealing drug addicts who happen to be I’m not sure what color. I’ll have to drive up there to look to see what color they are–I forgot, maybe Suzy knows—she can look out her window.

When the truth hurts and makes you look bad, move on. That’s Suzy’s philosophy. Blacks don’t commit any crimes–only whites do because there aren’t any first-hand studies on it. HA!

#Justice Dept. crime findings do not “cherry pick” or lie; they just state the findings#

Whoever is moderating - they need to stop censoring–my legal right—attorneys will be involved.

Black crime rates against White people are many times greater than White crimes against Blacks. You wouldn’t know it by reading or listening to America’s mass media. Saturation national and international news coverage is given to the very few White cross-race crimes against Blacks such as the James Byrd dragging case in Texas, as well as the media-hyped Tawana Brawley case in New Jersey and the alleged rape of a Black stripper by White lacrosse team members at Duke University. Both of those latter cases, after months of front-page, sensationalized coverage decrying “White racism,” turned out to be complete hoaxes.

There is an incredible disproportionate rate of Black crimes against Whites in contrast to White crimes against Blacks. Per capita Black cross racial crimes of 50 or even 100 percent greater than Whites would be bad enough, but the Black crime rates against Whites are actually many times greater than White on Black crimes. Blacks are an estimated 57 (that is 5,700 percent!) times more likely to commit violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times (13,600 percent!) more likely to commit robbery. (see the color of crime report published by the New Century Foundation –

*****1 out of every 4 blacks under the age of 18 is/has been incarcerated. If you take into account the ones over 18 it would by far be in the 50-75% range.********

NO Dave,

Its more like 4 out of 100,000… you are an idiot.

Buy your math over 8 million black people have been/ are in prison… There are only 5 million in the US that have been/are incarcerated.