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03.14.2008 1:19 pm

Missouri GOP caucuses on Saturday — Ron Paul’s last stand?

Saturday morning (times vary slightly depending on the site), Republicans from around the state will gather at various locations to select delegates.

The voting is the first step in a multi-tier process to select the delegates and the alternates who will get to go to the GOP presidential convention next summer in Minneapolis.

ALL of the delegates from Missouri will be committed to presumptive GOP nominee John McCain, who won the state party’s primary on Feb. 5.

On the Republican side, Missouri is a winner-take-all state, so no other Republican captured any of the 58 delegates at stake. (The Republican Party also doesn’t have any “super delegates,” as do the Democrats, so there are no big-name free agents to worry about.)

So Saturday’s sessions will focus solely on who those delegates will be. After the delegate-selection process is completed later this spring, the GOP committed delegates are expected to include many of the party’s big names, as well as rank-and-file activists.

In any event, there are rumors afoot that some Ron Paul loyalists plan to show up at some of Saturday’s GOP caucuses and to see if some of their own can be elected delegates. It’s unclear what their aim is, since the delegates MUST back McCain.

The sites for Saturday’s caucuses can be found by clicking here. 

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C. Davis - Just because you can post an endless stream of numbers doesn’t mean any of it adds up. Some important errors in your “analysis”:

1. “Yellow dog GOPers-20-30%(MC+ Huck split) -R. P. supporters- 10-30%”

FACT: The highest percentage Paul has received in any primary was 25%, in Montana. His average is far below that. Reference: http://abcnews.go.com/politics/elections/candidate?candidate=Paul&ref=ipb

2. “So let’s compare the GOP’s choices in ‘08 - McCain or Huckabee-20-30% of electorate,
Ron Paul-57-100% of the electorate”

FACT: Ron Paul didn’t even get 57% of the Republican primary vote. There’s no way that loads of liberal Democrats are going to vote for a libertarian Republican, even if he does oppose the Iraqi war.

3. “A significant number of disenchanted repubs would sooner vote for Hillarity (See Coulter)”

Coulter puts on a great show, and is paid well for it. She may even actually believe that, though if she does, I say she’s as nuts as you are.

I am as disappointed as anybody at the horrible failures of the Bush administration. I can’t wait until the day he leaves office, and hope he has the sense to disappear from the public eye as quickly as possible. We’ll be paying the bills for his administration for years to come, and have little to show for it.

But John McCain is NOT George Bush, and anybody who can’t see the difference is either willfully blind or terribly uninformed. As somebody who supported, and even donated a little money to the Ron Paul campaign, I can also say that I will happily support McCain, and wish and expect for his campaign the greatest of success.

— Nick Kasoff
7:57 pm March 14th, 2008

Well, now I’ve seen everything. The RP supporters want to subvert the Republican convention by what appears to be the breaking of the Republican’s own set of rules. It is indicated that they would and will vote for RP even at the first ballot even though they were elected by the Republican voters to support candidates other than RP. And this from the set that supports a candidate who claims to honor the law, the Constitution, and to try to get the President and Congess and the Courts to uphold the law.
And if the fantasy of this subversion does succeed, just exactly will they do next in a Paul Administration, assuming that he beats the Democrat’s nominee? Do they really think that a President Paul will be able, by an Executive Order or a signing statement, repeal the 16th Amendment, eliminate Social Security and the Federal Reserve? If Paul attempted such actions, he’d become the tyrant that he claims Bush is.
The posts by the RP supporters give the reality of thier revolution. That reality is that little of the republic or its laws would be left. Indeed, any opposition to the new Pauline order would be met by the same force that they claim is the hallmark of an unjust government.

— R Burnett
8:13 pm March 14th, 2008

This has been a fun thread to read since my original post #1. I’d like to clear a few things up that some of you are rampantly speculating about.

First, “Ron Paul” doesn’t plan to do much of anything at the convention. In many ways, I don’t believe that even Ron Paul himself believes that the nomination will come his way. With his statements recently about his campaign “winding down” he simply returned to what brought him into the race to begin with… the grassroots. It is the grassroots supporters who are working to go to the convention and stand up for what they believe are true conservative values and who they believe is really the party’s best option for a win against the Democrats. In a very real way, Paul could end up having to be dragged up onto the stage to accept the nomination that he really didn’t expect to get.

Someone earlier made the statement that neither Obama nor Hillary can beat McCain… are you serious in that belief?? The media is taking some token shots at the Dems right now, but once the nominee is locked up, the media is going to absolutely destroy any republican candidate in the running and bless the Democrat with Holy Water. Just think of how easy a target the Republican nominee will be… well more than a majority of Americans no longer support the war in Iraq… every republican other than Paul supports the war… do the math folks. Bush’s approval rating has been and continues to be at pit-of-despair levels… the “top GOP leadership” has made no secret of their support for Mr. “I’ll stay in Iraq for 100 years” McCain, Mr. “suspending my campaign” Romney and Mr. “I’ll rewrite the Constitution to reflect the Bible” Huckabee. All of them have essentially praised George W for his actions on the war and his doctrine in general. Mr. Bush has even given his “endorsement” to McCain (big whoop-dee-doo)… again, do the math here folks.

Obama will absolutely demolish any Republican other than Paul. Hillary will have a slightly tougher battle, but in the end would still pull out a rather easy win. Paul is the only Republican who can offer a better choice to voters… a choice that speaks out against the war… a choice that can offer up the famous “I told you so” about our nations economy… a choice who will actually bring real change to Capitol Hill and will not sell out to big business, big money and big politics. He’s proven this for 30 years… he’s going to suddenly stop now?

There will be no breaking of Party rules to have an influence at the convention. They’ll be no sinister, evil acts taking place (unless it’s on the part of those who have the fantasy of “shutting down” the Paul supporters… news flash to those neo-con traiters… it’s going to be tough to shut out a group that has close to if not right at a majority of the votes… best of luck to ya). Just honest, open, spirited and patriotic debate within the rules of the party to influence not only the platform but the most qualified nominee for president as well.

— Aaron Walker
10:14 pm March 14th, 2008

The fact that Missouri Republican Party Executive Director Jared Craighead is releasing rumors and the media is spreading them is evidence that he & a lot of others are scared that Ron Paul is the next Abe Lincoln!

Those threatened by Ron Paul’s integrity and determination to abide by the oath he and others must swear are trying to intimidate delegates. As Theodore Roosevelt said [& is still quoted by the GOP]: “A vote is like a rifle, its usefulness depends upon the character of the user.

Let’s hope Jo Mannies will be able to report the truth after Saturday.

— Jim
10:25 pm March 14th, 2008

As someone who has respected the staying power that Ron Paul has had through this campaign, I’m now convinced that you all that think you’re going to gain delegates for him are insane.

What you are essentially doing is attempting to disrupt and embarrass the Republican Party — and you sit there and suggest that YOU won’t soon forget??

It’s time to grow up! Ron Paul doesn’t have the votes it takes to become president, and if you succeed in trampling the caucuses Saturday, you’ll only be aiding the dem candidate, whomever that turns out to be.

— Jim (the republican)
10:59 pm March 14th, 2008

The RNC & DNC have been exposed.
This election is wide open.
Plenty of time,
Events.

Voters are awake;
gravel kucinich paul nader

— GravelKucinichPaulNader
11:04 pm March 14th, 2008

We’re following the rules; bringing registered republican voters to republican conventions. Got a problem; go bring your Doughnut eating; Soap watching friends to your conventions; if not deal with it, In this country MAJORITY RULES. If we have a majority we win plain and simple. Get over it.

— Brandon
1:37 am March 15th, 2008

>>Comment by Nick Kasoff
>>McCain has pledged to veto any bill which contains earmarks, an issue on which he has a
>> long personal history. If he sticks to his word on this, his Presidency will be revolutionary in a
>>way that any Paul supporter will enjoy.

Wall Street Journal had an article on the earmarks Friday 3/14. $19B is a joke and won’t balance the budget for even a week.

We agree the McCain will be revolutionary in continuing to oppose the 1st and 2nd ammendments, not following the rule of law for illegal alien entry, and for deficit spending.

McCain’s overriding the 1st + 2nd ammendment rights, along with promoting more deficit spending are not conservative Republican values.

— Joe
4:13 am March 15th, 2008

As a supporter of the Ron Paul message, I just have to say that I am so proud of those Americans who are signing up to be delegates in the Republican process. It does not really matter if Ron Paul gets the nomination. The revolution of ideas is catching on, and the change can not be stopped. Let’s just hope that it is not too late.

— Freddie L
7:46 am March 15th, 2008

All these RON PAUL PEOPLE are Wasting there energy trying to get Ron Paul in !!!!!!!!!
He can never win

— Freddy L
9:50 am March 15th, 2008

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