It is simple… if you had enough people turn out you won by honest vote. Most people in the city were too complacent to be bothered turning out and the Ron Paul folks won by a very, very slight margin. The surprising absence of some leaders in city Republican circles may have turned the tide in the RP favor and they have no one to blame but themselves.

Congratulations to the Ron Paul supporters on a game well played.

I would encourage them to get involved in the future and not just fade away after November for another 4 years if they are in fact as they claim… “true Republicans”.

Any of these cheerleaders of the 4 more years of the “business as usual” paradigm are blinded by their hubris to the fact that all the polls show that between 80 and 90% of Americans are against the war and you can bet that that translates to a huge percentage of committed voters. These cheerleader types can’t separate the football game mentality from their own self-interest. They’ve been told by every single media outlet out there that Dr. Paul can’t win so many times that they assume that it must be true. These are folks who haven’t yet figured out that one should be suspicious of anyone who would go to such great lengths to sell them something. Anyone who thinks that our election system is legitimate should just keep their head down and keep eating grass until shearing time or butchering time, whichever comes first. There were plenty of these around the first time we had problems with king George, too.

I keep seeing these numbers that have no basis in any valid research. 80% to 90% of voters are against Iraq? Do you mean the initial invasion of Iraq? Those are the highest negatives, and those don’t even reach those numbers. For the first time since 2004, more people believe we need to stay in until it stabilizes, and that it will eventually work out than not. That’s recent poll numbers. If you have managed to take the state convention, and you embarrass the party, there will be retribution. Until now, most of the members of the party have stayed out because they knew the rules were the delegates were forced to vote for McCain, and they played by the rules. Now you all want to change the rules mid-game. You do not have a majority, you have a very active minority. If you believe differently, you are in for a very rude awakening. You have won some of the caucuses thus far (I don’t know about others) so do what you wish to do. However, you should be prepared for the consequences of your actions.

Well, if Ron Paul supporters do take the state convention, Missouri will make national news … as the state where getting 4.5% of the primary vote is enough to control the delegates. Calvin Davis said that “Anyone who thinks that our election system is legitimate should just keep their head down and keep eating grass until shearing time or butchering time, whichever comes first.” I wonder how it is legitimate when 4.5% wins.

FYI, Mr. Davis, I am neither a “4 more years of the ‘business as usual’” nor am in in this for my own self-interest. I enthusiastically supported Paul in the primary, voted for him, and gave him money. I support almost everything he stands for, with the great exception that I support the war in Iraq. I have been very dissatisfied with President Bush, who I’d rank as the worst Republican President in my lifetime, and with the exception of Jimmy Carter, the worst President of either party.

But none of that leads me to support your black helicopter ideas about rigged elections, the bogus statistics which have been posted in this thread, or the statements about “King George” that sound like they were lifted from DailyKos. If that’s what passes for being a conservative, we’re in big trouble.

I also have been a participant in Republican politics for a long time. I was an alternate to the Republican National Convention in 1996 - for Pat Buchanan. I personally organized a Buchanan group in the St. Charles county caucus that year, and won. But that was before we had a primary, and therefore, before we had bound delegates. I’ve seen party regulars bend and twist the rules to hurt conservative upstarts, and was infuriated by their total lack of morals and respect for the rule of law. The conduct of some who support Ron Paul in this election has legitimized their tactic, which is to get as much as you can, regardless of what you have to do to get it. Congratulations.

McChurianCandidate was allowed to succeed because there is no plan to allow a Republocrat into the Oval Office this time around. This clown was 894 out of a class of 899 and would likely have a difficult time explaining how to balance a checkbook, no less fix a dying fiat currency system.

It is time to march Socialism directly down the throats of the producing sector and ensure that the dependent sector gets on board for the ride down Stalin Highway. It’s time for an OH-HO (ObamaHillary-HillaryObama) ticket to take over and complete the destruction of the republic.

Mr Kasoff : Your credentials as a GOP operative provide no credence with me as attesting to the validity of your poisition. If you’re willing to sign on to 4 (or a hundred) more years of institutionalized murder, I don’t care whether you respect anything about me or any of my fellow patriots. We’re not going to legitimize your vaunted procedures with our consideration under any circumstances. I don’t care if you heap insults upon me ’til the cows come home, If you can’t see what’s at stake here, I consider you to be beneath my contempt. I lost patience with Bush fluffers and McCain fluffers long ago so, say what you will, history will show which of us had the interests of our country in mind when having our say. And If you think that a Texas congressional district who would overwhelmingly vote for Paul for congress (37,000 votes) and not vote for him for president (6,000 votes) then,my friend, you are in a state of denial about our election system so deep, that there’s nothing I’d ever be able to say that would be able to reach into your twisted psyche anyway, so I’ll stop belaboring the obvious for now and trust that other sensible people will be willing to raise their voices in support of truth.

I love how using the political process to try to fix what’s wrong in our country is scorned upon. A man has opened our eyes, by catching just enough spot light to wake up 4-30% of the republican voters in each state (that take time out to vote in primaries). I have no belief that Ron Paul will be president, I just hold it as hope. I have hope that I can effect change and open the light to others. Before this process I looked upon the election process as scum. Now I know I don’t have to just look. We are in the wrong direction, a nose dive, whether or not you agree. But don’t fret, there are 4-30% of us pulling up as hard as we can.

Mr. Davis - What you are saying bears a very distant relationship to truth. Despite what DailyKos, Obama, and George Soros might say, the fact is that “institutionalized murder” best describes the regime of Saddam Hussein, not the work of the American military. Or perhaps you have forgotten the thousands of bodies bulldozed into mass graves. Institutionalized murder also is a very appropriate description of the Islamo-fascists who strap bombs to anyone who is young enough, retarded enough, or fanatical enough not to know any better, and sends them into crowded marketplaces to murder fellow Iraqis.

Our job in Iraq has been neither as short nor as easy as some might have believed. It is probably true that mismanagement by the Bush administration bears some of the responsibility for this. But to call American action in Iraq “institutionalized murder” proves only that you’ve spent a lot of time reading left-wing blogs before posting here. I’m sure that you’ll vote for Barak McGovern-Obama in November.

I’m not asking you to legitimize procedures which, contrary to what you say, I’ve neither vaunted nor claimed as my own. But playing a game, losing, then changing the rules after the game is over, is cheating. If you want to say that the ends justify the means, fine. But that doesn’t make you a winner, it makes you a cheater.

As I said before, if your idea of “fixing the electoral system” is giving the state’s delegates to the candidate who got less than 5% of the vote … well, I guess that depends upon what the meaning of the word “fixing” is, doesn’t it?

Mr. Hoven - In what state did Paul get 30%? According to ABC’s summary, Paul’s highest tally was 25% in Montana, and his average was far less. See Paul’s complete percentages here:

http://abcnews.go.com/politics/elections/candidate?candidate=Paul&ref=ipb

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