Corolla,

I’m glad you mentioned social security. Under current economic conditions, it won’t be around for much longer. You are misinformed on Dr. Paul’s stance on this issue which is as follows:

Our nation’s promise to its seniors, once considered a sacred trust, has become little more than a tool for politicians to scare retirees while robbing them of their promised benefits. Today, the Social Security system is broke and broken.

Those in the system are seeing their benefits dwindle due to higher taxes, increasing inflation, and irresponsible public spending.

The proposed solutions, ranging from lower benefits to higher taxes to increasing the age of eligibility, are NOT solutions; they are betrayals.

Imposing any tax on Social Security benefits is unfair and illogical. In Congress, I have introduced the Senior Citizens Tax Elimination Act (H.R. 191), which repeals ALL taxes on Social Security benefits, to eliminate political theft of our seniors’ income and raise their standard of living.

Solvency is the key to keeping our promise to our seniors, and I have introduced the Social Security Preservation Act (H.R. 219) to ensure that money paid into the system is only used for Social Security.

It is fundamentally unfair to give benefits to anyone who has not paid into the system. The Social Security for Americans Only Act (H.R. 190) ends the drain on Social Security caused by illegal aliens seeking the fruits of your labor.

We must also address the desire of younger workers to save and invest on their own. We should cut payroll taxes and give workers the opportunity to seek better returns in the private market.

Excessive government spending has created the insolvency crisis in Social Security. We must significantly reduce spending so that our nation can keep its promise to our seniors.

Dr. Paul’s extensive writing on this issue can be found at the following link.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/social-security/

After reading the articles above, you will find that he does NOT want to end social security for older Americans as misrepresented by those who want to continue to misuse the now non-existing funds meant for our elderly. He does want to allow younger workers to opt out into private retirement plans, which is a different issue.

Please do pass on Dr. Paul’s message on this issue to others.

I think post 56 applies to Robby.

To Nick

A list of reason why RP supporters felt cheated.

Early on, we won the Debate polls and AOL polls. FOXNEWS reported we were spamming, which wasn’t true, as their polls only allowed one vote per phone/IP adress.

FOXNEWS had Bill Kristol on claiming Paul was a 9/11 truther.

Polls were conducted, which the media based their proportional coverage on. A friend of mine who worked for a polling company told me he didn’t get why so many people were upset RP wasn’t an option. In his words, they were told to explain that he WASN”T A VIABLE CANDIDATE!

We had a mole sabotage our voter database at the IOWA HQ. This same mole sabotaged operations in Michigan and Alaska.

The Jamie Kirchick newsletter hitpiece was timed to be released the weekend before the NH primary. Kirchick was an admitted Guiliani supporter, and he said on his blog he was just doing the story to get web hits. He distorted the facts and selectively edited the quotes to make them appear worse then they were.

In Nevada, where we new we were going to do well, the State GOP changed the caucus locations 4 TIMES the week before the vote. Our campaign was scrambling, and it took all their resources just to keep updating the voters on the right locations.

After our second place finish, which would have given us momentum, there wasn’t a peep out of the MSM. In fact, FOXNEWS showed the 3rd and 4th place leaders in early coverage, but would not show Paul’s lead.

The New York Times, and several other websites, didn’t even list Paul as a candidate till after Super Tuesday on their election pages.

Of course there was FOXNEWS not inviting Paul to the NH debate, even after he had already gotten higher in Iowa the Thompson and Guiliani, who were invited.

There was a recount challenge in New Hampshire, and we learned the margin of error for the diebold machines exceeded federal election law. In one town, all of Paul’s votes disappeared.

There was, as mentioned earlier, the Lousiana scam.

We believe that in many caucuses where we were reported to be doing well, Romney bused out of state people to vote. (Many caucuses didn’t have ID requirment or even voting role requirement. We believe this happened in Maine, Nevada, Wyoming, Montana, and Colorado.

There were numerous problems with the results in Florida. Broward County had a 109% turnout.

In New York, in Brooklyn, and Long Island, Paul wasn’t on the ballot. When our people challenged this, they were informed that the election chairs had been told that Paul dropped out, and you couldn’t vote for him.

McCain’s people in NH told Independent voters he was anti-war.

Obama’s people in Connecticut told Independent voters Paul dropped out.

In my precinct in New Jersey where I canvassed, two out of three diebold voting machines malfunctioned late on super tuesday. Diebold officials assured the precinct chair that no votes were lost with the replacement. She took them at their word with zero proof.

In Los Angeles, 70,000 RP supporters who had registered before the deadline weren’t allowed to vote, being told they weren’t on the roles, or were registered with other parties. Some of them, after producing evidence, were allowed to vote, but were forced to vote on provisional ballot.

Similar voting role problems happened all over the State of California, especially in the San Diego, Bakersfield, and Bay areas.

The Romney campaign used a similar dirty trick with the slates in Southern Maine during the caucuses.

The media has seemed fit to mention Ron Paul only when he is dropping out, which according to them, has happened about four times.

We were promised a story by newsweek on Paul that would take place after Super Tuesday and got “Wrong Paul: The fallacies, fantasies, and factual mumbo jumbo of the insurgent candidate.” It was a hit piece by Joe Miller nitpicking statements and twisting them.

The promise we got from Newsweek?

“We think the Ron Paul story is one of the most fascinating and unexpected events of this elction season. We think you will be excited to learn we plan to a story on Paul after the Super Tuesday Primary.”

We have Mitt Romney on Florida Radio before the primary telling people “Ron Paul deserves to be laughed at.”

We had Huckabee telling people before the Texas Primary that there were now two candidates in the race, and he would be going all the way to the convention, no matter what.

In independent media studies, Ron Paul got less then one percent of name mention on televison, compared to 96 percent for McCain. Thompson and Edwards broke ten percent.

In North Carolina, some paul supporters were barred from attending caucuses, simply on the basis of suporting Paul.

AOL linked to stories on Paul from Wonkette, an anti-paul satire site, as if they were authoritative news. (And some people really are dumb enough not to know the difference.)

Paul’s supporters were maligned as thugs, neo-nazis, communists(?), and 9/11 truthers. While I’m there are a few, the vast majority are not, yet you never saw any coverage on his rational supporters.

For all these reasons and more, I don’t feel terribly bad about “ignoring the will of the people” when it comes to things like the Missouri Caucuses.

You would think after all this, we would say to heck with the GOP, but because of our belief in the principles we stand for, we have not given up the fight.

The truth is, the GOP is now ruled from the top down by special interests. So are the democrats, of course, but We will not sit back and let the neo-con/third way socialists, (who are really just the same party, check out Quigley’s Treason and Hope) continue their bankrupting of America, morally, politically, and economically.

Folks, this is hilarious. All these red-faced people upset because different folks attended their private country club drinking program.

Berks “My fear is that all you have really accomplished is to hand the State of Missouri to the Democat candidates.”
Oh yea, when nothing else is left try to sell FEAR. We are not afraid, because we understand that Clinton, McCain, and Obama are all liberal big spending Democrats.

corolla “I am not totally thrilled with in order to prevent the damage that Obama or Clinton would do to this country.”
The damage started with the second Bush term and the neo-cons. McCain is another Democrat with a spliced in gene for endless war.

“We were willing to work with you, …”
No, you didn’t work with us.

“‘We were willing to work with you, …’
No, you didn’t work with us.”
Comment by Mark

Jackson County - Wait, and see what happens now.

Dave #73 - I agree with most of what you say. But yours is an indictment of the media, not the voters of Missouri. But the same media which ignored Paul before will pay a great deal of attention to what is happening here, when it is useful for them to do so. The story will be, “In a state where only 4.5% of voters supported Ron Paul, forces aligned with the Texas congressman have captured half of the delegates to the Republican National Convention.” The rest of the story will be interviews with party operatives talking about how Paul cheated and changed the rules, and by Democrats talking about how Republican voters were disenfranchised by Ron Paul.

If what I am reading around online is true, you people in the great state of Missouri have pulled off one of the greatest feats in political history! Rumor has it that Ron Paul delegates crashed every caucus and won majorities and now will vote together to unbind their votes to McCain?

Here in Pennsylvania, we have 63 delegates for Ron Paul on the ballot across the state for the 72 spots. Ron Paul has the top spot on the ballot because we got over 11,000 petition signatures for him! We assume that most Republicans won’t even bother to vote in the April primary and that means that Ron Paul SHOULD win both popular vote and delegates.

Anyone who thinks Ron Paul can’t win in the Presidential election against a Democrat is insane!
With McCain as the nominee, it will only be about the war. With Paul as the nominee, the Democrats have nothing!

I assume that if Missouri did indeed pull off the coup, it is because they have felt guilty all these years for not allowing Paul on the ballot when he ran for President in ‘88. Better late than never!

What everyone seems to be forgetting is that this election is about more than Ron Paul. I hope all the Ron Paul supporters who have disinfranchised the party regulars understand they have a lot of work to accomplish to keep Missouri Republican. There is a Governor’s race, other statewide offices, House of Representatives and various Senators that they will need to get out and support both financially and on the ground. Now we will see if they are true Republicans.

Nick-

We’re “darned” if we do, we’re “darned” if we don’t

Nick,

I keep on looking for a story on this on the MSM and nothing - if it hasn’t been covered by now it probably won’t be unless it happens again. At this point, from the movement’s perspective it is better it not be covered.