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03.12.2008 7:55 pm

Police control bill advances, with a twist

St. Louis leaders finally got their say today on a bill giving the city control over its police department. But they weren’t real happy with the way the measure ended up.

The bill (HB2117) would do away with control of the department by a governor-appointed board of commissioners. Instead, the St. Louis Board of Aldermen could set up a municipal police department.

Mayor Francis Slay and 25 members of the Board of Aldermen have endorsed the idea. After two previous House hearings were canceled, Slay and several aldermen finally offered testimony on Wednesday.

Also weighing in was the St. Louis Police Officers Association, which opposes the bill because of worries about political intererence, especially with its pension plan.

To pry the bill from committee, the sponsors — Reps. Rodney Hubbard and T.D. El-Amin – accepted an amendment giving Kansas City control of its police department, too. But all sides agreed that could open a can of worms.

“I think it’s an easy way to kill it, because they haven’t even had the discussion in Kansas City” about local control, said Alderman Dionne Flowers.

Next stop for the bill: the House Rules Committee, which will decide whether to forward it to the full House.

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I was at the hearing. As a resident of out-state/rural Missouri, I was surprised by the overwhelmingly support and unity of the St. Louis area legislators. There seemed to be a circular logic being advanced by the opposition that included St. Louis attempts to take over the pension. According to the bill’s sponsor, the bill completely leaves pensions under the purview of the State. One question that was raised by St. Louis County Republican, Rep. Muschany, was why hasn’t this bill advanced over the past 30-40 years while Democrats had a strong hold. I thought that that question was worthy of examining past and current leadership to examine failures to make sure we dont repeat,

— Marge Neal
8:34 pm March 12th, 2008

The Police in St Louis have no faith in our city government and worried about prndion money. Seems taxes raised and not much help to the PD I think cleaning up public corruption should be the priority FIRST. What happened to Ald.Steve Gregali’s Missouri Court Record in Butler County about his Probation? His other charges are on the record and why did the prosecuter in Butler County pick up his probation Violation. The police in his district wonder too guess his FOP Pres friend covered him all the way. This is example of Policce telling me they can’t do their job due to him. HMMMMMsee ya driving again Gregali those beers especially the ones you give Local 73 where your ward club meets could be too much for 1st district one night or the next Mardi Gras driving excursion. The folks in this area really upset about crime and where is he on a good 1st district police meeting??Its only thier tax dollars he’s drinkling on He as no Union Job so thanks Stevephan Gregali crimes as are up but you got off free on probation didn’t you?

— Taxes Too High
12:05 am March 13th, 2008

The Pension money the Police concerned about and gee I would be too with some of the leadership and head turning that goes on with our Aldermen. $$77,000 loaned from Pres Reed to Gregali on his campaign report in 2006 what a deal and Police begging for help on the streets Justice where is it????Heck the Southside town talk didn’t print his Problem after the Post but it made South County Journal WHY WHY WHY

— Taxes Too High
12:08 am March 13th, 2008

Mayor Francis Slay definitely has two great friends helping him in Jefferson City. Hubbard and El-Amin have been very loyal to Mayor Slay through the recall protest and all. Mayor Slay could not ask for two greater supporters of his ascension to total control of the City of St. Louis.

Congratulations Mayor Slay, now everyone knows who is carrying your water for you in Jefferson City.

This is why the recall of Mayor Slay will be compromised in exchange for local police control. Mayor Slay knew he had two Jokers Guaranteed in the deck of cards to play. Regardless of the outcome of the local police control bill passage, the cover has been pulled off Mayor Slay’s secret weapons to work against the recall effort.

“Once you go whack, you can never go back!”

— StandupDemocrats
1:32 am March 13th, 2008

Sounds like someone has a grudge….back to the topic…

It’s too bad about the KC amendment possible killing the police bill.

— punditorparody
6:56 am March 13th, 2008

For thoses police who know Gregali’s scams how about fake etchics???To Be continued and for the police its their pension Money noe not politicans who havw played back and forth on atxes and the statistics of this city. Last census 2000 look arounf 4 or 5 squad cars for a city tha is land locked come on folks who is kidding who now.You cover me buddy plan right?

— Grude No REVENGE
1:52 pm March 13th, 2008

its unfortunate that some people want to tie everything to the mayor. Bypass the fact that an overwhelming majority of St. Louis residents support local control and this has never passed in 150 years, and 25 alderpersons supported the measure, including activists organizations such as UAPO, OBS, Pres. Lewis Reed, Darlene Green; there was for the 1st time if ever, an unparalleled since of unity. Yet, there seems to envious, self-serving haters with their own self-serving agendas. Your covers are blown and well known. Stop the hate!

— Real Issue
12:37 pm March 15th, 2008

Hey Standup Democrat,

It seems to me that maybe people have a problem with two young African-American males exercising independence. For too long, people namely the white democratic power structure has dictated to the black community what they should think and what position they should take to fit perfectly into the “good democrat” mold. Yet, white democrats could move independently and be praised. Hey standup, where is Nixon on local control? Where is the party on an African-American on a statewide ticket? Let’s see are you a standup democrat when it comes your own narrow interest or the collective interest. The fact is people are elected to get a job done, not to pick and choose who they want to conveniently work with. I guess I’m tired of cage rattlers with no solutions. Those are the biggest problems to the community. What the @$&” is the good for a democrat if you’re not progressing an agenda the serves the interest of its most loyal voting block. So, what are you really standing for standup? Or you’re just another serving, status quo seeker, who takes joy in attacking young black positive males, like you Clinton-democrat against Obama!

— Standup Democrat?
1:01 pm March 15th, 2008

NO COVER the language won’t fly and K.C. was a second thought to this…Anyone asked the real police of this city why they don’t want this and why some Alderperson keep egos insteafdof progres? Seems to me cut the Board and you got Money that’s$$ for more cars and police without raising the taxes and duplicating service with the county. Think Big we were once #4 city in the country and nw #2 crime could it not just be Politics that’s causing a lot of the headaches we see daily? Some alderperson’s should not lie about their consulting firms and non union jobs for attention . If you cut the size of the BOA and make them work for the supposed part time job with the City and require eticss to return We very well could handle that. Could Cheif of POlice borrow $$$to stay on the PD from his fellow officers like Alderman Gregali did with Pres Reed to the tune of $77,000 why does he still tell folks he’s a UNION man where ? Show me I am in Missouri and Voters want to talk this out….

— NO COVER (UPS)
3:26 am March 16th, 2008