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03.21.2008 12:18 pm

Ron Paul backers tangle with state GOP over caucus reports

Debbie Hopper, national field director for U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas (and who is continuing his campaign for president), called Thursday to recount a contentious encounter that she had just had with Missouri Republican Party executive director Jared Craighead.

Hopper said that she had gone to the state party’s headquarters in Jefferson City on Thursday to look at the reports turned in by the various sites’ chairmen from last Saturday’s caucuses.

Craighead refused to allow Hopper to look at the reports. Hopper noted that next Tuesday is the deadline for challenging the reports’ content, or the proposed delegates approved at the caucuses and then OKed by the state party.

Hopper said she’s concerned that the state Republican Party is out to disenfranchise the Paul delegates selected at those caucuses, or that some of the caucus chairmen.

To briefly recap:

The Republican caucuses were held last Saturday around the state to select state delegates for the state GOP congressional caucuses in April and the state convention in May. (The state delegates help select the presidential delegates, and help shape the state party’s issues platform,)

As readers may be aware, Paul’s supporters came out in force. In sites where they were in the majority, the Paul contingents controlled the caucuses and elected their slates of delegates.

Hopper reaffirmed her side’s belief that the Paul supporters snagged about a third of the state delegates.

Click here to read the Post-Dispatch’s account, published Tuesday. 

Friday morning, Craighead made the following reply. “Accusations of anything underhanded going on are ludicrous,” he said. “We have not received all of the information from the local caucuses. We’re in the process of cataloguing and compiling the information. We’re not in a position to share it with anyone.”

Will the state party have the information available before Tuesday?

“It is unclear,” Craighead said.  He cited various roadblocks (including the Easter weekend). But among them: “It depends how fast the caucuses turn in their stuff.”

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Nick you’re right and wrong. Our loyalty is not to the party. But it is not specifically to Ron Paul. Rather it is to the Constitution, and the REPUBLIC for which it stands.

To someone else, as a Paul supporter, I am not all about democracy, or the voice of the majority. I am about individual liberty. The founders were wary of the tyranny of the majority. That is why fundamental rights are safeguarded against the whims of the mob.

— Dave
1:28 pm March 23rd, 2008

What a load of crap. The vast majority of the country has rejected Ron Paul and will continue to do so no matter what shenanigans his followers try to pull. Their holier than thou attitudes reveal their true feelings that “they are the truth” and any one who disagrees with them are not “true” Republicans. What a crock.

I participated in the St. Charles cauces in 1996 and on March 15th. Contrary to Mr. Kasoff’s recollections, the 1996 caucues in St. Charles the predominite unruly people were Buchannan people. The Buchannan people didn’t know the rules or what they were doing and the “establishment” had to help them with parlimentary issues etc.

Likewise the Paulites had no clue what they were doing on March 15th. They had caught the car, just barely, and then they weren’t sure how to get done what they came to do. It wouldn’t surprise me since they didn’t seem to know where anything was or exactly what to do to find out that they did not follow the rules and their delegate selection process was all wrong.

Despite their protests, Paulites do want to change the rules after they lost miserably. That attempt will only result in the continued loss of credibility. They haven’t much to spare.

— Jackson
8:45 pm March 23rd, 2008

To “Jackson”

You are correct when you say:
“reveal their true feelings that “they are the truth” and any one who disagrees with them are not “true” Republicans. What a crock. (except for the ‘crock’ part)

Those are our true feelings. But, they are not just ‘feelings’, they are positions backed up by history, the Founding Fathers, and lots of research. See…we tend to think about things and look at political philosophy such as Free Market Economics and the Enlightenment that gave us our Constitution. I know,…”good” Republicans aren’t supposed to think or evaluate the leaders of the party and are just to follow their horse-race masters. But, I am far too ethical and moral to do that. In other words, I’m a patriot.

And, additionally, we haven’t “lost miserably”. We have barely begun….See, you still don’t get it. It is not just a man (although I think Dr. Paul is noble and the greatest patriot in Congress for a long time), but it is indeed a movement. And…you can thank us later. But, that may be a decade down the road. Again, we have just begun….

— Kent in KC
10:38 pm March 23rd, 2008

Ron Paul received about 4% of the vote in Missouri in the Feb. primary.

Every time I hear a Paul supporter claiming that they are in the majority, based upon their attendance at county caucuses, the rest of what they say pretty much sounds like, “blah, blah, blah …”

— Jim (the republican)
12:33 pm March 24th, 2008

Funny, when I read about the earlier primary results, there was no majority, for any candidate. So, “blah, blah, blah, crooked as hell” seems to be coming from the Republican establishment.

— M
1:50 pm March 24th, 2008

It is outrageous to say that the deadline to contest information is Tuesday and then indicate that he might not even get to look at ANY of the documents until after Tuesday.

What kind of red tape is that? Someone ought to be fired for this underhanded practice for that is surely what it is whether it is intentional or not.

— Mark
3:09 pm March 24th, 2008

I find the repeated comparison to the founding fathers to be yet another sign the Paulites continue their highly over stated, delusional attempt to convince others to think they are noble in their purpose. I could agree with delusional but noble is out of the question. And if there were practice caucus sessions, well there should have been a whole lot more because the practice didn’t help.

It’s true no active Republican candidate got a majority in the primary but every one of the active Republican candidates got more than Ron Paul did in the primaries. Paul received about 7 times less of a percentage of the vote as the lowest active Repubilican candidate.

Ron Paul may not be the “movement” but he is the representative of the “movement”. It is clear to everyone but the Paulites that America has rejected their “movement” no matter how noble they attempt to make it sound. Perhaps Shakespeare decribed the Paulites best “full of sound and fury signifying nothing”.

— Jackson
10:33 pm March 24th, 2008

” Ron paul received about 4% of the vote in Missouri in the Feb. primary”

Ron Paul is still virtually unknown to the average american person, especially in MO, a state where, to my knowledge, he never campaighned. Most voters will only consider what is pounded into their head day in and day out by mass media outlets. In my very small precinct where I was able to speak to some of the voters 2 days before the election by going house to house, only one home had heard of him, and most were undecided on who to vote for- yet they they all claimed to be conservative, prolife, pro-gun individuals yet many did not have a candidate in mind not even 2 days before super Tuesday. I was able to leave some literature with these people and I believe through signs etc. that there was an impact in my precinct. The precint voted 15% for Dr. Paul. This would represent basically the people that I spoke with. I believe if the people were to understand his views and the source and reasoning behind the views from a scientific, and logical standpoint there would be an even greater belief in his ideas,if not the man himself. But the only media attention that he can get says that he can’t win, or he’s crazy, or any other number of subtle slights. Few have stopped to see that in his eyes and the eyes of others who follow him, the Consittution was written for a reason as a guiding and limiting document for our Federal government. When was the last time, reader ,YOU actually read the Constitution? The document even with the amendments is amazingly simple. Yet he is ridiculed for wanting to limit our Federal Government to the roles spelled out in this document. Why is that such an outlandish thought? Shouldn’t all of our legislators and representatives, who swear to uphold that document, be thinking the same thing? It has been unfortunate that the only media wagon he can catch a ride on is a negative one. The last media surge in reporting for Dr. Paul claimed that he had dropped out of the race and stopped the campaign- which turned out to be patently false… the entire AP and other news services repeated the same lie for the entire day- even NPR picked it up. The retractions were not nearly as prevelanet is the rumurs of his demise. Furthermore, on a national baisis McCain has not even come close to a ground swell of support. He came out on top becuase the majority of conservative Republicans split their votes 3 ways on super tuesday between Paul, Huckabee, and Romney. McCain just happened to be standing there long enough to pick up the pieces from states like MO where a 1% point win will give you the entire state delegate count. At the state convention it should not just be the Paul supporters voting to overturn the winner take all system, but the Huckabee and Romeny supporters as well. Ron Paul has truly begun a movement and hopefully it will not stop this fall, but rather bring back to the Republican party an era of conservative fiscal responsibility which limits government and supports a government which allows freedom to its citizens in their thoughts and actions. Anything less will just be more of the same.

— The MIner
1:20 pm March 25th, 2008

To Jackson - Again:

Once again, you make claims using the propaganda tactic knows as “fallacy of majority approval”. You claim Conservatives are delusional and that our task is not noble, but again provide no evidence, no perspective, and no counter-position to back up your claim. 75% of the Colonial population in the 1770’s were Tories, Loyalists, or too scared to give up their peace of mind and money (sort of like our ‘Survivor’ and ‘American Idol’ and happy homeowner culture). You claim that a movement is not noble bacause the vast majority is too dumb or complacent to understand it is the ultimate irony. It was the minority of thinking men and women of the original revolution that saw through the tyranny and found principles of enlightenment and individual rights were the answer.

You are a typical Neo-con (or neocommunist if you prefer).

— Kent in KC
1:32 pm March 26th, 2008

JarHead!

— Millie
12:15 am March 27th, 2008

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