Should have known that Amazed is from North St. Louis.

Just deleted 3 comments — by Suzy, Amazed and Mr. Haas, because they used a certain four-letter word not allowed on Political fix — or an obvious characterization of it.

Apologize for not catching them earlier, but I’ve been out of town for a couple days, and no Internet was available.

I’m still out of town, but also back on the job.

Come on folks, you all can come up with better language.

Here we go again amazed. Thanks your for your last post by the way. I truly do appreciate your thoughts. Anyway:

Mistake #1: “I can guarantee you there are less expensive routes to earning a law degree.” Wrong. Between scholarships and being able to live at home with my parents, the private school I attended was much more affordable than UMKC, Mizzou or SIUC could have been.

Mistake #2: “the massive flaw in your last post is you misunderstood a sentence in my last post. The one that reads, “If YOU want a college education, work, work, and a little more work is enough to get a kid through college.”” Go back and read your post, you’re talking about the parents, not the kids. Example #1 - you say: “EVERY FAMILY WITH a college bound student shouldn’t be looking at an outside entity to provide that student the opportunity to attend college.” If you were talking about the potential student financing the education, you would have eliminated the first three words. Example #2 - your immediately following sentence is “If you want a college education, work, work, and a little more work is more than adequate enough TO GET A KID through 4 years at any of the state schools in Missouri.” Note, “to get a kid” - you didn’t say to get YOU or YOURSELF. After my post, you realized the flaw in your argument and tried to recharacterize your comments. Nice try actually.

Mistake #3: I’m not sure when you went to college, but I finished 8 years ago. Even in this short period of time, tuition has increased exponentially. Those who could afford to work their wany through college 10 years ago have a much more difficult time doing so now. A simple GOOGLE search will show tuitions across the country rising at rates much higner than the Consumer Price Index/inflation - and most agree it will get worse before it gets better. With this being the case, and with higner importance being placed on higher education, loan programs like MoHELA are becoming increasingly critical.

Mistake #4: Not all people can work and wait. I could have earned $20-$25K a year with the type of job I was qualified for out of undergrad. Between living expenses, car payments, gas, food, clothing, etc. - I’d have been 60 years old before I could have gone to law school. I would have gone nowhere fast without a TEMPORARILY subsidized education. Let’s look at another example - doctors. Everyone loves doctors. You know what in-state UMKC tuition is? About $25K a year. Probably the cheapest med school in the Midwest. How long do you think it’s gonna take a kid coming out of a state school with a BS in biology to get enough money to go to medical school? What are you gonna do with a BS in biology? Though you need it for med school, you can’t do anything lucrative enough with it in the real word to prepay for medical school at even the cheapest of institutions. And let’s not forget how much that tuition’s gonna go up in the 20 years it takes you to build up a nestegg to get into school.

College is more important these days than it’s ever been. The price is also higher than it’s ever been. We gotta help these kids get through school. Again. I NEVER could have received a higher education without MoHELA, and I guarantee you there are many, many others out there in the exact same position. Just one more reason that we need people who have experienced real-life problems to be in public office instead of those from the “ivory towers”.

If you are still around to care, I have a question for you Reallyamazed.

Did I have this conversation with you awhile back? At the time I listed what Missouri, Missouri State, and SEMO listed on their website for what an “average” student would need in school. Between 12-20,000 was the range that I believe they fell into. Now if you are college bound and abled body, you can EASILY earn 15-20,000 a year. You may have to suck up a little of your college bound pride and do some not so glamorous jobs like eliver pizzas or landscape, but it you can certainly make a that money.

Great job on picking two professions to try to get your point across about tuitions. Yes med school is very expensive. Law school can be and is definitely higher than a BS at a state school. Why not address the 90% of degrees issued that aren’t in the aforementioned professions?

Mohela wasn’t the only way you could make it through Law School, just the most convenient for you. Nothing wrong with that, but it’s much more convenient to keep student loan debt to a bare minimum.