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05.05.2008 12:56 am

Mo GOP targeting 300 pro-Ron Paul at Monday ‘credentials meeting’

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According to an email from some Missouri supporters of Ron Paul, sent late Sunday night, the state Republican Party has scheduled a special “credentials meeting” for 10 a.m. Monday at the  Blue Armory in Jefferson City.

At the meeting, according to the email, about 300 of the 1,900 elected delegates to the state GOP convention May 30-June 1 must disprove allegations that — presumably — accuse the targeted delegates of not being bona fide Republicans and/or not committed to supporting John McCain for president.

“The state Central Committee spent approximately $1,000 on certified mailings that do not even state the allegations,” said the email sent from one challenged delegate. “A small group of insiders in the Missouri Republican Party are attempting to prevent delegates, properly elected at their county caucuses, from attending the state Convention in Branson…

“Although many have repeatedly attempted to find out the basis of the challenges, these 300-plus delegates have been left in the dark and forced to travel great distances, some well over 100 miles, to finally learn the charges against them. Challenged delegates will be limited to a mere five minutes to respond to the charges with no time to prepare.”

Those challenged include “current Republican Committee members, members of  the Missouri Republican Assembly, current Republican candidates, and attendees of previous conventions, with the only common factor being that they voted for Republican Congressman Ron Paul during the primary.”

Here’s a few examples cited in the email:

Laura Mize: “As a 78-year-old long-time Republican voter and the daughter of a lifetime staunch Republican from Southeast Missouri, I voted for the only man that represents the principles of the Republican Party as taught by my father and now they want to throw me away like an old newspaper.  Well, they have started a fire instead!  I’m so angry, I will show up even if I have to be carried on a stretcher!”

Eric Vought, Republican Committeeman from Springfield: “Having just worked to sell tickets for one fundraiser and putting together a donation for their silent auction, it disturbs me that they are spending $3.60 per certified letter, times a few hundred delegates to challenge all of these people. Why should I bother raising money for them if this is how they choose to spend it?” 

Tom Klein of St. Louis County:  “I thought we were the ‘party of the open door’ as resolved in the National Party Rules. Well, now that door is being slammed in my face!  I know the vast majority of us Republicans are very good people but you know what they say… All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”

The Paul supporters assert that similar actions are happening elsewhere.

“Across the nation, including Oklahoma, Nevada and Texas, the time and location of conventions have been changed at the last minute and party insiders have attempted to sneak in ‘delegates’ to inflate their numbers who were never elected at their local caucuses.“ 

“Others have walked out with crucial documents belonging to the convention, convention Chairmen have run roughshod over the rules of order by refusing to recognize delegates not from their faction, and some have simply walked out shutting off the lights to the convention hall as they did in Nevada.”

“Because of growing concern over honesty and integrity in government, a new group is being founded, Statesmen for our Constitutional Republic, to educate voters about the inner workings of our political mechanisms, encourage and teach people to be active leaders in our government, the Republican Party, and, especially, our communities. …”

A co-founder of the group, Curtis Abbott of Springfield, Mo., says, “”It is a sad day when much of the public believes that their  involvement no longer matters because ‘the insiders’ have already decided who is going to win and those most involved suppress their own conscience to support the lesser of two evils. “We are setting up monthly caucuses where the real issues will be discussed, we are going to the high schools and colleges to raise up the next generation of Statesmen, and we are pledging ourselves to high ideals of principle, conduct, and courage. What we do matters greatly; how we do it matters every bit as much.  We mustn’t merely know what is right: we must have the courage to do it.”

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Not all voters for Ron Paul were challenged, and not all people who were challenged voted for Ron Paul. For example, the St. Charles delegation included the names of various people on the Central Committee slate. All of them got the same letter. They don’t have the ability to actually know who voted for Ron Paul or who voted for John McCain in a lot of this situations, so they are eliminating entire slates in some cases, and in other simply people they think might be Ron Paul supporters.

— Joshua Stigall, challenged St. Charles delegate and McCain primary voter
2:52 am May 5th, 2008

The post by Joshua above is nothing but propaganda designed to cover up the GOP dirty tricks. Everyone knows the GOP party made secret phone calls all last week to design plans to exclude Ron Paul supporters from every facet of the legal vote process.

— Mike
5:36 am May 5th, 2008

To assume that the RNC or DNC cares about America is insane. You are looking at system that creates it’s own laws. The Senate last week decided that you can change the constitution by resolution instead of the law of the land Article V. You talk about a loss of liberty and and show us your paper mentality. My goodness the war mongering neo-cons are fearful themselves. That will happen when you are not true to yourself. It is amazing who is the that the so called conspiracy quacks seeing monsters in the liberty fighters.

— John
5:41 am May 5th, 2008

I’ve always been an independent. I joined the Republican party to vote for Ron Paul in the primary. After seeing how they treated him and us, I’m having second thoughts. I wish RP would start a new party.. True Republicans or Federal Republicans or something. Let’s see how the GOP (nothing Grand about it) holds up after a we all leave. They’d probably try to infiltrate THAT party too!

— WillPhelps
6:27 am May 5th, 2008

“The whole world’s watching.”

The sheeple will eventually learn what’s really going on.

— Just Some Guy
8:09 am May 5th, 2008

So…..this is how the GOP tries to rally the troops and bring people over to their side, huh? You have to first prove you are “Republican enough”? How ridiculous.
No one is excited for McCain. He was in Des Moines last week and couldn’t even engergize a small crowd of 300. The warm-up acts were merely begging for money.
With these type of Gestapo tactics, reminiscent of Nazi Germany where you are looking for 100% compliance, the Dems will have this country back in their grasp in no time.

You are seeing the final gasps of an unfortunately dying party.

— Brian
8:11 am May 5th, 2008

The leaders of the state republican party are finally brazen enough to show their true colors. Many people would have never believed they would have done this…..a few months back. Smacks of desperation.

— Robb(I)
8:32 am May 5th, 2008

I’ve seen first hand how the RP delegates are treated in Texas. The Nevada convention was a farce. I expect to see other such incidents throught other states as well.

The GOP is dying and these actions only confirm that; they are desperate acts by a few that want to control the choices of the many. This is definately my last dance with this party….And I’ve been a Rebublican for more than 20 years.

McCain will not win in November no matter what the GOP does. I will write in Ron Paul if I have to, but Mr. Keating5 will NEVER get my vote.

— EasTex
9:06 am May 5th, 2008

The Republican Party has become “for the Party”, not the voice of the people.
And who is “the Party?” . It is becoming apparant that it is just a few at the top
protecting their jobs.
Really, Republicans should take a long hard look at why they are Republicans.
Are they Republicans to protect “the Party?”. Or are they Republicans to protect
America and the principles that it was founded on?
Remember? That we as Republicans stood for upholding the Constitution?
That Freedom was what this country was about?
That liberty prevailed, and smaller less intrusive government was the order of the
day?
If a Candidate doesn’t stand for these things, then why in Gods name would you
support them? To protect “the Party?”
Come on Republicans, Wake up!
Vote for the one who has the Principles that made our Country Great!
Support that person.
In this case it most certainly is not John McCain.
Vote for Ron Paul, support his delegates. Don’t you realize the reason for their
passion?
They love America! They love our Constitution. They love smaller government and less
taxes, and if the Republican Party stood for those things today, they would love the party too.
But today, The Party has strayed. It is showing self interests above the interests of our
country.
Vote Ron Paul, help the Ron Paul Delegates if you want your party to be one of
priniciple.
http://ronpaul2008.com

— Libertysilver
9:07 am May 5th, 2008

You Ronulans have made my day!

Thanks again for injecting a little crazed paranoid rhetoric into what otherwise be a quiet sunny Monday.

Think I’ll write a check to MY PARTY to help with the postage.

— tsquare
9:19 am May 5th, 2008

All you Ron Paul supporters need to wake up and realize there is a constitutional scholar running for president, an actual constitutional law professor who taught constitutional law for ten years at one of the premier law schools in the country. On the other hand, you could support McCain, who graduated 796th out of 800 at the Naval Academy. McCain is just another Bush-like flunkout who coasted to where he is on his Daddy’s coattails. We need someone in the Oval Office who has a brain, for a change!

— Carlos
9:44 am May 5th, 2008

tsquare is right. Voting has nothing to do with supporting a principled candidate. It’s just about supporting “my team.” Politics is just a spectator sport, and all the fairweather fans need to go home. It doesn’t matter who our team has up, we should support him!

— Bob
9:58 am May 5th, 2008

Interesting they will throw away their money like this and expect people to waste gas to come to these “hearings” yet don’t care when Rush Limbaugh encourages republicans to change parties to throw the democratic primaries. They have really slipped. You can bet they won’t have my vote this time around.

Another republican for Obama…

— Boris Kafka
10:23 am May 5th, 2008

I am a republican. John McCain is NOT MY nominee. I WILL NOT vote for him, regardless of the situation. Should be enough said, but, apparently one can lead a neo-conservative (ironically nothing “neo” here and even less “condervative”) to logic, but you can’t make them think.

At least with another four more years of Clintons, conservatism goes out on its’ shield. This is more than I can say for the supposed “warrior” on our ticket.

— shane scheid
10:38 am May 5th, 2008

This is exactly the kind of shenanigans that is driving many of us from the party. The RNC might as well stop sending me “surveys” in hopes of getting donations. They can also find someone else to do the phone banks this fall. My donations of either money or time are over.

As a conservative, Ron Paul was the obvious choice for me in the primary. I have voted Republican in every presidential election since turning 18. However, I will never, ever vote for John McCain and will vote third party this fall for the first time in my life. We need to get back to Constitutional principles and away from a government that increasingly intrudes into our private lives.

The way the Republican Party has treated an honorable man like Dr. Paul is despicable. The way they’ve alienated Republican Ron Paul supporters is idiocy.

— Susan
10:44 am May 5th, 2008

The republican party is a PRIVATE group, they can choose to maniuplate things however they want. This is not a government issue but a private club issue.

If the Republicans don’t want people who believe in true conservative values it’s their right.

As far as I’ve seen The Republicans have become Democrats and the Democrats have become socialists. The Party name is just kept for name recognition there are no “Republicans” left running the RNC just Neoconservatives.

— Jared Lorz
10:58 am May 5th, 2008

Riddle me this…..Comparing the specific policy issues of Sen.McCain and Dr. Paul, I cannot help but notice that it is McCain who is in the wrong party.

Democrats are the party of compassionate empire.

Medicine?…Dems are the party of more gov’t “help”.

McCain-Lieberman….need I elaborate?

McCain-Feingold….need I elaborate?

Taxation?…McCain has stated repeatedly that he has no understanding of economics. Not surprisingly, by all accounts of his program desires, he will raise taxes. Is it still conservatism if you raise taxes out of ignorance rather than governing philosophy?

Education?…more money from, and thus more power to, the Dept. of Education. Reagan wanted to abolish this (and many other) departments.

2nd Ammendment?….”Ithink there should be no reason why hunters and collectors should not be allowed…” thus proving he has not a clue that the second ammendment to the UNITED STATES’ CONSTITUTION is about shooting despots, not deer.

For all that talk radio likes to banty on and on that the Clintons have never made an honest penny, working exclusively as “public servants”, they would do well to apply the same analysis to Senator McCain, who has worked in government in one way or another his entire life as well.

DID ANYONE THINK TO SEND ONE OF THESE LOYALTY SURVEYS TO THE SENATOR??

— shane scheid
11:25 am May 5th, 2008

Shane: (post #18)

I agree 100% I do… really.

The question is: of the three left which one will do “the best” job toward those goals?

Not Hillary of Obama…

McCain was not my first choice… nor my second… nor even third… but he’s miles ahead of those two.

— tsquare
11:33 am May 5th, 2008

As if any more proof is needed….the votes of the “little people” no longer count…

— eric
11:39 am May 5th, 2008

Tsquare (post #19):

You’ve bought into the fallacy that there are only 3 candidates remaining.

As much as you’d like to think so, it ain’t true.

McCain may have more ‘pledged’ delegates, but that doesn’t mean that all of them will vote for him on the first ballot, especially if they have strong reservations about him. Some may choose to abstain from voting for the first ballot– because they are then free to vote their conscience at the second, third and fourth ballots (if necessary).

That is what Paul’s strategy is– to be present at the convention and make his case as to why he’ll be able to garner the conservative vote. His conservative credentials are MUCH stronger than McCain’s.

— scottimack
11:45 am May 5th, 2008

The GOP is so infested with ex-democrats (neo-cons), only it’s demise can reverse it back to its original platform. This is obvious from this election season. Juan McWar is the Bob Dole of 08 - lets do something about it when we still have a chance - get behind Ron Paul and the r3VOLutions.

— Baba Padmanabhan
12:15 pm May 5th, 2008

Joshua, sure they have a way of telling who I support, simply look at the open donation records and see who I contributed money to. Granted not everyone is a donor, but thanks to campaign finance reform, we have given the government power over political speech. Too bad McCain has been willing to break most all campaign finance laws that he felt were so important to this country.

— Tom W
12:17 pm May 5th, 2008

The “election” has already been stolen for John McCain. The electronic vote-stealing, used in all states but mine (NY), will see to that. All — and everything — you see going on now in the media and in these “Republican” (NeoCons) nominating committees, etc., is to provide the APPEARANCE that McCain has overcome the impossible hurdles the bush regime crime-spree has put in his way and justify his “win” on “election” day. Same with the keeping of Clinton in the race with the vote-stealing machines in the primaries. Same with the buying off of the “polling” companies.

Beware: the take-over began with the Supreme Court in 2000, and it is nearly complete right now. It won’t be pretty if these vermin are allowed to succeed. Think about what you can do to avert it.

Support, for example, Hand Counted Paper Ballots for the November “election.”

— Patriot
12:25 pm May 5th, 2008

I’m going to join the Constitution Party.

Maybe I’m throwing my vote away but at least I didn’t vote for McCain.

— TheOne
1:25 pm May 5th, 2008

The entrenched beltway folks are fearful of both Ron Paul and Barack Obama. Both of which have a keen understanding of the US Constitution. If either one is elected president, they’re gonna need a lot of protection. Powerful people who have benfitted from the lawlessness and corruption in our government aren’t going to take too kindly to their diminished influence in government affairs.

My prayers go out to the both of them, because both of them know exactly how dangerous it will be for them in returning America to We The People.

— Publius
1:39 pm May 5th, 2008

So, ok…

The GOP (or someone… ‘neo-cons’?) has the capability to falsify tens of millions of votes across 40 or more states to get ‘their man’ the nomination.

And yet this same group (whoever they are) can’t get a ‘few’ piles of WMDs buried in the sand… knowing as they did, that they were not already there.

Hmmmm…. funny huh?

You’d think so wouldn’t you?

— tsquare
1:56 pm May 5th, 2008

But the votes of the little people do count…and Missouri elected John McCain in the Presidential Preference primary. It is the vote of the people that the party is trying to protect not the followers of a candidate who couldn’t garner 5% of the vote. It is funny how the losers always yell about voter fraud when their candidate doesn’t win.

— Real Republican
2:30 pm May 5th, 2008

I’m a conservative, have always been, and will always be. But there is no way I’m going to support McCain.

McCain is not a conservative, he is an anti-freedom pro-senseless-war tyrant, just like Mr. Bush whom I still regret supporting in 2000 (but not in 2004, 1 term was more than enough!).

A vote for McCain is a vote for eternal war, and for the draft, given nobody will be volunteering anymore with more and more wars without any reason coming up.

McCain and Clinton have both pledged to “bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb” (McCain) or “obliterate” (Clinton) Iran, certainly not the way to go.

I’m disgusted with all the candidates, but given 2 of them are clearly pure evil, I’m not going to leave it up to the same morons who gave Bush a second term. As compelling as a third party sounds, I’ve decided to try and help make sure those two criminals don’t get any say.

I disagree with Obama about a great many things, but he is so clearly the lesser of three evils (he might not nuke Iran, he wants to restore the constitution) that all other issues just disappear into unimportance.
Let’s put in Obama to fix the really bad things for the next 4 years, and in 4 years (when the Republicans have hopefully come to senses and eliminated the Neocon faction), let’s put someone good like Ron Paul into the office to fix the rest.

— McCain sucks
2:42 pm May 5th, 2008

Generally voted republican for last 20 years. This time I’ll vote against McCain.

— Briantim
2:47 pm May 5th, 2008

Real Republican. Don’t kid yourself into thinking that this scummy rule-breaking and underhanded back-stabbing by the Missouri Republican party is in any way noble. The only people being dishonest are the Republican party apparatchiks. They are showing themselves to be the crooks they are to everyone who is willing to see.

— Disgusted
3:00 pm May 5th, 2008

TSquare Wrote:
“The GOP (or someone… ‘neo-cons’?) has the capability to falsify tens of millions of votes across 40 or more states to get ‘their man’ the nomination.
And yet this same group (whoever they are) can’t get a ‘few’ piles of WMDs buried in the sand… knowing as they did, that they were not already there.
Hmmmm…. funny huh?
You’d think so wouldn’t you?”

Comment by tsquare — May 5th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

Judging by your previous comments and knowing you are a neo-con (aka Communist), this is probably pointless, but:
1. No one claimed that a “same group” falsified both the votes and the reasons for an illegal pre-emtive invasion of Iraq to make money. That is a strawman fallacy.
2. It doesn’t take a huge effort to alter vote counts, all it takes is very little knowledge of computer systems. If we actually counted votes by hand - then you would have to “falsify” a ballot, but electronically the term “falsify” is mute. That is a fallacy of documentation.
3. No one needed to have “a ‘few’ piles of WMDs buried in the sand” - Congress had already given up their responsibility and negated their oath of office, so the war was going to happen no matter what. Finding a few WMD’s wouldn’t have changed the public outcome in the least and will not change the pre-planned occupation and permanent stationing of my military brothers and sisters for decades.
4. NO - it’s not funny.

In Liberty

— KCKent
3:30 pm May 5th, 2008

Perhaps this country needs a real viable thrid party to keep the Republican and Democratic parties open honest and bought off by special interests and Backup up by Power Trips on the Supreme Court, Judicial System and MEDIA and Foreign Money.

— rob
3:33 pm May 5th, 2008

I’d vote for Ron Paul if he had a chance of winning. Unfortunately, he has no chance of winning, so I am not going to vote. We are given a chioce between three traitorous criminals to vote for, Clinton, McCain, and Obama, with everyone I confront telling me to vote on Election day for the “lesser of two evils”.

What they fail to realize is that the lesser of two evils is still EVIL.

— George Taylor
6:39 pm May 5th, 2008

McCain looks sick and tired to me, like he’s been stuffed full of embalming fluid. On top of that he appears to have some kind of unsightly growth issues on one side of his face. This guy is not a good thing to see out a full term. Who needs an angry dying man with his finger on the Nookular trigger?

Unless Americans have somehow gone collectively insane you must support Ron Paul. He’s the only decent candidate who will put America first. America awake!

— Bernie
7:01 pm May 5th, 2008

I am quite upset with the disruptions caused by the Ron Paul supporters at both county caucus and congressional district caucus. I fully support prox 80% of what the Ron Paul Group wanted
to be in the Mo. Platform. The rest of their desires only served to creat dissention in the party.
I was glad the Ron Paul Group stayed active up to and incl. the county caucus, as I felt the
MOGOP would be influenced by their desires. I then felt they would have made an impact,
and it would be time to get onwith electing John McCain, who will be the Republican Candidate.
Since the result of their disruptive tactics prevented County Caucus’s to be able to adequately discuss and VOTE on the platform, I felt disenfranchised. Then came the Congressional District caucus’s, many of which were so disrupted that voting on the Platform just simply did not happen, and the platform issues were referred to the State Convention with “no recommendation” Again- those grassroot people who attended caucus and wanted to make a difference were left out because of the disruptions.. My Time, and the time of many attendees were was wasted because of the disruptions. Discussions with several of the Ron Paul people showed they were NOT true Republicans, and some had obviously lied about their Political Affiliation to get into the Republican Caucus System. Since the Mo. Primary had passed, and John McCain won, they should have either supported him, or just went home and voted for the Democratic Candidate. Their action has created unjustified dissention to the Republican party.
If we wind up with a democratic President, we all will suffer, and look where our Suprems Court will head, with at least one, maybe two appointments to be made in the next 4 years.
The continued disruptions will only alienate them totally from sensible conservatives.
They remind me of Move On.Org!

— Ray Smith
8:57 pm May 5th, 2008

The more news I hear about all the dirty trick that are being played out in these delegate meetings all over the nation, and the more news I hear about how the GOP and TC are afraid of what RP is doing, the more I know we are winning. And they know we are too. Why else would they be afraid?

I say keep up the GREAT work, keep fighting the good fight of faith that we can win this, and let’s see where the dust settles at the GOP convention in September. It’s important to walk by faith and not by sight in this situation, to not let the circumstances that confront us daily prevent us from doing what we know to be the right thing to do. If Jefferson and Adams had allowed the circumstances surrounding them in 1776 to overwhelm them, we wouldn’t have a Constitution, a free nation, and a nation of laws that allow us to fight for what we believe in.

We just have to continue to FIGHT!!! No matter the cost. Just like anything else, they too will eventually give up and let us through. It’s the chaos principle, it’s proven, and it works.

— Thomas Jefferson
9:38 pm May 5th, 2008

I forgot to say…

RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2008!!!!!! ALL THE WAY!!!

— Thomas Jefferson
9:42 pm May 5th, 2008

If you go to a party that says it’s a public party and all are welcome, and when you get in it’s hosted by the Klu Klux Klan, do you try to restore the party back to an ethnically diverse party? Or do you just leave and start your own or go to another one.

I agree with most of what Ron Paul says(minus securing the border nonsense) but the simple fact is he’s on an idealistic fools quest to save the party rather then forming a new one.

— Jared Lorz
10:02 pm May 5th, 2008

Hey Bernie,

Do sensible Republicans vote for an unconstitutional war? How about the unconstitutional act of taking away our right of Habeus Corpus through the Patriot act, or allowing amnesty for 20+ million criminal illegal aliens in the United States, or catering to hate groups like La Raza and MECHA? Do sensible Republicans agree to let Osama Bin Laden hide out while we mass kill innocent men, women and children in Iraq and blame it on AlQuida when they were never in Iraq? Or do sensible Republicans allow and support our current administration to secretly plot to give America’s sovereignty and destroy our Constitution in the give away of all our rights to the north American union? Your so-called candidate, John McCain, thinks all these things are good things to do to America. You sensible Republicans scare the hell out of me.

This is John McCain, the person you sensible Republicans are supporting. We have EVERY right to disrupt the delegate conventions and to exercise OUR rights as U.S. citizens in this process. Who made you the God of the GOP or the God corrupter of our Constitution to decide who is disinfranchised or not?

WE HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE THERE AND DO WHAT WE’RE DOING ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION AND REPUBLICAN CONVENTION PARTY RULES. READ THE CONSTITUTION AND THE GOP RULES BOOK.

The Republican nominee, regardless of how many delegates he has from the primaries, is not chosen until the GOP convention in Sept. Abraham Lincoln did not win the beauty vote or the delegate count when he ran for president, going through the primaries. Going into the GOP convention in Sept, he had less than half the delegates the so called chosen candidate had. He became the Republican nominee after five round of voting by the delegates and legally won the nomination over the “beauty chosen candidate”.

You have forgotten what being a Republican is all about, and are corrupting the process by DISENFRANCHISING Ron Paul’s supporters who are fighting for the life of this nation.

Take a good look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself, “Can we as a nation take one more year of another president who thinks, acts or votes like George Bush, because McCain, Obama, and Clinton all have the same destroy America ideolgy as Bush, and have never represented what America REALLY stands for…our Constitution.

RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2008

— Thomas Jefferson
10:04 pm May 5th, 2008

OOPS again,

I meant Hey Ray Smith, not Bernie. I agreed with what Bernie said, 100%.

RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2008!!!!!

— Thomas Jefferson
10:09 pm May 5th, 2008

ALL of you Ron Paul Supporters make us proud to be American PATRIOTS!!

As for ever voting for LIBERAL McInsane NOT in a MILLION YEARS.

Check out following article.

GLOBAL ELITE GATHER IN D.C.

Portion of article is below. Read full article at:

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/global_elite_gather_135.html

PETRIFIED ABOUT PAUL

While they are confident they can deal with any “potential president,” the Trilateralists paid huge tribute to Ron Paul in an equally large twist of irony, by expressing alarm that he is causing “significant future damage.” They expressed concern that Paul’s rallies have attracted multitudes of young people who are getting “their political education.” They want Republicans to pressure Paul to drop out now and stop his education rallies. This assignment was given to Thomas Foley, former U.S. House speaker.

The reasons Paul’s “education campaign” strikes fear into Trilateral hearts are obvious. Paul would refuse to surrender an ounce of U.S. sovereignty to an international organization and TC wants world government.

Paul would immediately bring U.S. troops home from Iraq, Afghanistan and from 130 UN “peacekeeping” missions around the globe. TC wants to enjoy war profiteering and global power. Paul would abolish the federal income tax while the TC wants to pile on a global tax payable to the UN.

The formal agenda was loaded with everything Paul and American patriots detest: higher taxes, more foreign giveaways, more immigration, both legal and illegal, into the United States and “engaging Iran,” among others.

ONLY A Doctor WILL HEAL America,
Freedom4America Group

— Freedom4America Group
12:42 am May 6th, 2008

I liked the Ron Paul campaign even if I didnt agree with all their/his issues, and even tho I am a good Democrat, but as my website, runbillrun.com or billhaasforcongress.com says, “Not Your Usual Democrat”. I wrote the District 2 Ron Paul rep asking if they consider meeting me to see what we may have in common, as I doubt they support Akin, but they never got back to me. Too busy fighting the power strangle hold of the Republican party. Maybe eventually they’ll have a chance to dialogue with me after their convention. I have a feeling that after my election, I’ll be dealing with Democratic party leadership from time to time, myself. Like if they dont pass comprehensive farm reform to be able to promote answers to world hunger and other agricultural related issues endemic to farm subsidy reform.

— Bill Haas
1:29 am May 6th, 2008

““The whole world’s watching.”

The sheeple will eventually learn what’s really going on.
Comment by Just Some Guy”

Hear hear! I ‘donated’ my summer housing investments (I’m Canadian) to the Ron Paul campaign…the donors could have paid me, or they could show their donation slips…The nonsense has got to end.

— Lance C, Roseman
2:34 am May 6th, 2008

Why don’t the Ron People people tell you the reason they want to be delegates. They want to go to the convention change the rule on “winner take all “so they can vote for RP at the National Convention. What about the over 5 milliion people that voted in the Missouri primary, how can anyone think it is fair to change the rules after the vote. Ron Paul got just over 4% of the votes.It is kind of like the child that keeps asking the same question hoping to get a different answer.

— Espresso
5:53 am May 6th, 2008

OK Paul supporters, lighten up. There have only been one or two cases, don’t blow this out of proportion lest they do have reason to pull us all out. Remember, Missouri is a winner-take-all State, you are required by the rules, because McCain had over 50% of the vote to vote for him in the first go around. We need to go there with the purpose of winning hearts and minds for the national convention. We are not going there to cause chaos. There are many non-Republicans and so called ‘anarchist’ groups that have inflitrated our ranks trying to cause problems. Don’t fall for their spin. Represent what Dr. Paul stands for. Follow the rules and win hearts and minds.

— PaulGuy
8:37 am May 6th, 2008

I am writing in Ron Paul for President. I’m voting for him no matter what!

— Ed Haas
8:41 am May 6th, 2008

PaulGuy - were you listening? Over 200 delegates belonging to Ron Paul meetup groups were challenged. One or two who support other candidates were caught in the middle of it. Two-thirds of Missourians voted AGAINST McCain. I was at the so-called “hearing”. These people were railroaded, were not able to be represented, were accused falsely of things they had never heard of, and grilled and mercilessly interrogated, all AGAINST their own rules.

I’ll never give another dime or another minute of my time to this worthless Party after watching what happened to these people.

— Blue KC
9:15 am May 6th, 2008

Really, Espresso? Are you sure THAT is the reason, even though there is no longer any mathematical possibility that Ron Paul can win the Republican nomination? Maybe, just maybe they want to go to the state convention because they have much invested in the Republican party and are horrified at what they are seeing as it has become something they can no longer recognize. Maybe they have something to say about that and they are rightfully resentful that their voices are not being allowed to be heard. Being elected as delegates is how people traditionally have gotten their voices heard.

— Disgusted
9:54 am May 6th, 2008

Unfortunately it took segregationist Governor Wallace to reveal the truth that “there’s not a dime’s worth of difference between” Republicans and Democrats. The Democrats willingly went along with the War in Iraq, suspension of Habeas Corpus, detaining protesters, banning books like “America Deceived’ from Amazon, stealing private lands (Kelo decision), warrant-less wiretapping and refusing to investigate 9/11 properly. They are both guilty of treason.
Write in Dr. Ron Paul and save this great nation.
Last link (before Google Books bends to gov’t Will and drops the title):
http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?&isbn=0-595-38523-0

— Michael K
10:55 am May 6th, 2008

If you want to make a protest that the Republican leadership will notice, vote for all the Libertarian party candidates in November. Losing elections is the only thing that will get these people’s attention. Besides the Libertarians, to a man, will be closer to Ron Paul’s philosophy than 99% of the republicans.

— william readling
11:13 am May 6th, 2008

Mr. Smith - You Wrote:
“The continued disruptions will only alienate them totally from sensible conservatives.
They remind me of Move On.Org!

Comment by Ray Smith — May 5th, 2008 at 8:57 pm”

Ahhh - propaganda and emotional appeal. Very nice. If you did a tiny amount of research, you would find that these “disruptions” as you call them were actually appeals to the power-hungry committee favorites that refused to follow the rules and refused to give TRUE CONSERVATIVES a voice at the caucuses and conventions. I have no doubt that had you been alive during the 1st Revolution you would have been one of the Loyalists saying, “OK, King George isn’t that bad - shouldn’t we all get along for the good of the British Empire? All these disturbances are doing is making the King angry and I don’t want to risk my business or money”

“Sensible Conservatives”? Do you really mean Neoconservatives? I think you do. If you put neoclassic columns on a building, they are new or better classic pieces of architecture, they are “false” classic architecture. Just like the “Neoconservatives” are “False Conservatives”. Using that term is kind of like saying “Compassionate Communists”

“Move-On.org”??? Conservatives with actual principles (I know….you don’t really understand how that works) are the same as a pop-culture propaganda machine? Nice Try.

Paul Guy, You Wrote:

“Remember, Missouri is a winner-take-all State, you are required by the rules, because McCain had over 50% of the vote to vote for him in the first go around.”

First, I think the idea of a winner-take-all state is unethical, but perhaps that is a discussion for another time. When I was writing possible rules resolutions, I think a proportional number or an unbinding of half the national Delegates is fair. Secondly, McCain only received 34% of the votes. So, what you are saying is that 66% of Missouri Republicans need to shut-up and vote against their principles and political philosophy even though they are the majority. Third, no one I have ever talked to said they would not abide by the rules. Asuming that is a blatant slur against honorable people. Now, changing the rules is a possibility, but it is a democratic process to do so. I highly doubt that will be achieved and Missouri Delegates will vote for McCain on the first ballot as the rules require. The second round will get interesting, however.

“There are many non-Republicans and so called ‘anarchist’ groups that have inflitrated our ranks trying to cause problems.”
REALLY?? I have never met one. Do you have any evidence of another blatant slur? You must work for the FBI or BATF, every time there is a public protest, those in attendance are labeled: “Anarchists”. You scare the hell out of me. How is tyring to restore Constitutional Government anarchy?? Oh….you didn’t learn that in your “anti-terrorism in Iowa” classes.

— KCKent
11:20 am May 6th, 2008

If you have to be a McCain supporter to attend the convention, then how will you find any delegates? Its been my experience, in Florida, that McCain has no supporters. There are 10 Ron Paul Meet/Up groups in the Tampa Bay area alone with thousands of very active volunteers, there is only one McCain Meet/Up in all of Florida, with only 3 members (who have never met.) McCain seems to be a creation of the Main Stream Media, who needs a sacrificial lamb to be offered up to the Bush-Clinton alter.

Do these delegates for McCain, realize that they will have to pay $3,500 each to attend the National Convention. Will they then nominate a candidate who has exceeded the spending limits and commits a felony everytime he spends a dollar. Someone who is ineligible to be President, because he was born outside the USA. Someone who filmed 32 war propaganda commercials for the North Vietnamese, do you not think these videos will be plastered all over every media in the world. Someone who did a practical joke (wetstart) on the USS Forrestal, and killed 132 sailors, burnt to a crisp. A person who kicked aside the wounded so that he could escape on the first rescue helicoptor so that his shipmates couldn’t strangle him. Why don’t we just pledge our allegiance to Hanoi Jane. He wasn’t shot down over North Viet Nam, on his next assignment, his shipmates sabotaged his jet so he would crash in enemy territory. Maybe, he will be able to explain away his two Vietnamese children (who attended the U of Colorado), that he fathered in North Viet Nam while serving in solitary confinement. He is a despicable traitor.

Dr Ron Paul’s record is spotless. Dr Paul actually has a cure for the problems of this country, to eliminate the Federal Reserve and the illegal Federal Income Tax. He will create world peace by reeling in the Empire’s Stormtroopers and bring them home to defend our country.

Sic Semper Tyrannis

— Mike Flynn
12:35 pm May 6th, 2008

I guess that my biggest fear in a McCain Administration is his selling our Constitutional rights down the river to make a deal with the Democrats to get a pet project through. Sign off on a assault weapons ban to get a tax break, just be the McCain that most Republicans have grown to dislike. Most of the victories that secured his nomination were won with several candidates in the race and McCain not even getting 40% of the vote. Once Romney quit, it was over…he was the only candidate besides Ron Paul that really had the money to keep running, and he had a more mainstream message than Paul. If the GOP were operating under Democrat rules with no winner take all states, the nomination likely is still in question.

Speaking to the Nevada Convention, as well as Maine, Oklahoma and pending in Missouri, I have a couple of thoughts. Number One, since when did the Republican Party become the New Communist Party, with only one candidate and that candidate’s ideas being the only thing that good Republicans can stand for? That is utter crap, and I will continue to applaud the almost 30 percent of voters that vote against McCain (and don’t be surprised if Ron Paul’s numbers improve in NC and IN today) in Pennsylvania. All this philosophy is going to cause is resentment from the Paul contingent, as well as good, solid Conservatives who just bristle at the thought of John McCain. Number Two, McCain refuses to speak to the Conservative base, being the Maverick that he has been his entire career…he is going to do it his way. Well, let me be blunt, his was is going to cause a President Hillary or President Obama in the fall, because the Paul folks and true Conservatives will either stay home or vote third party and let the chips fall where they may. Four years of Barack/Hillary…the Conservative and Constitutional movements will take over the GOP and the days of McCain type Republicans will be over. McCain and his ilk can go be Lieberman type Democrats…see you later, have a nice day, don’t call us we’ll call you.

At least we know what Barack/Hillary means to the country, we still don’t know when McCain will screw the Conservative movement over.

— James
1:13 pm May 6th, 2008

I was at the “hearings” yesterday. I am a long time Republican, have never voted for any other party. I am one of the “challenged” in St. Charles County. I sat through the interrogation, and found it insulting. I asked who filed the challenge, but they refused to tell me. I found out after I left the room that the man who filed the challenge against the entire county caucus, all 137 delegates to the state convention, was sitting on the credentials committee and was one of the ones asking me to defend myself. If this is an unbiased process, how can the man who filed the challenge also decide on the challenge? This party that i have been faithful too for 34 years of voting is proving itself corrupt. This is no longer a conspiracy theory, it is conspiracy fact.

— MadRepublican
1:39 pm May 6th, 2008

Why are people talking about the national convention? The presidential preference is one thing, but if you have district conventions, etc.. to pick delegates to the State convention and those people honestly and fairly won their delegate slots at the district conventions, how can they (and everyone who voted for them) be disenfranchised by the party?

People are confusing two things: National Republican Party nominating convention (held in MN) & MO GOP state convention/district assemblies. The Ron Paulers can help shape the MO GOP party platform - they are missourians and have every right to do so. If all you haters who didnt show up to your district conventions (after voting for McCain the preference primary) then you have forfeited any RIGHT OR PRIVELEDGE to complain about the people who did and the votes they made. You have only yourselves to blame for that.

I do blame you for voting for McCain at all - as it shows a complete lack of intelligence and a willingness to simply follow what some person in authority told you to do. For a party founded on the principle of liberty & limited government you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Great article!

— windycityatty
1:42 pm May 6th, 2008

This is what happens when the people who represent themselves as “Party Leaders” don’t have everything their own way. They are so accustomed to voters just doing as they are told and failing to use their own analytical abilities to select a candidate, when people DO use their analytical abilities, party leaders begin trying to crack whips and eliminate people.
If the GOP hasn’t figured out by now that their Neo-Con agenda is unacceptable to most freedom loving Americans, then they are so completely deluded and powermad, there is no saving them from themselves.
Ron Paul will be my choice in November, no matter who is or isn’t on the ballot. Bush’s legacy is nothing but war, global famine, and hyperinflation. If the 3 media darling candidates were anything but puppets of the people who put Bush in office, they wouldn’t be media darling candidates.
Incidentally, oil closed at $121.84 per barrel today.
Vote Ron Paul.

— angel
3:09 pm May 6th, 2008

We got them scared now, we have to remain strong and mad about this be of courage, for the nation of sheep must take on the government of wolf’s we can win but we cant run we must fight.

— Mike of Texas
5:12 pm May 6th, 2008

I’m 66 yrs old and I know a mafia government when I see one. “Of, By and For, Themselves” The Republican Party has one totally true Republican and that is Congressman Ron Paul, a true Statesman and the ONLY reason I’m still a republican. My vote will be for Ron Paul, regardless of the treacherous crookedness of either party. The total controlled news media is just a sad cartoon to me.

— Frank Knapp, Jr.
5:43 pm May 6th, 2008

As I watched the election results, not a single mention on how many votes Ron Paul received. And I know of thousands of people in this area who did vote for him. And everyone has been brain washed to think McCain is the only one in the race. And it does seem the fix is in, the big money of the Fed Reserve machine has bought and sold our future to finalize corporatizing of our government. Welcome to 1984 !!!

— Patrick - N.C.
8:37 am May 7th, 2008

I’ve heard several people say that they will not vote because the outcome is already predetermined. I became an independant due to the fact that I want to vote for whom I believe is the right candidate not because of the party that they belong to. I don’t want to have to vote for the lesser of the two evils. I want to vote for the candidate that I believe is right. The way that the Democrats and majority of Republicans are acting why should we vote for them and their own personal agendas. I am a Ron Paul supporter and will be voting for him even if he does not get the support of the Republican Party. Ron Paul is the candidate that I choose with my freedom to be able to choose. What happened in Nevada I believe is a disgrace to this country and the people. Maybe they should get rid of all the delegates hoop la and go with a popular vote and actually trust the people to be able to elect the president that would best represent them. I think the system is actually showing how flawed it is when a party’s agenda is more important than what the people want!

— Kevin
5:10 pm May 7th, 2008

This election has confirmed what I was starting to believe. I was always skeptical of Alex Jones but now I know he is right about the elites running the world. I will still be writing in Ron Paul of course.

— Jamie
10:32 pm May 7th, 2008

Real Republican wrote, “But the votes of the little people do count…and Missouri elected John McCain in the Presidential Preference primary. It is the vote of the people that the party is trying to protect not the followers of a candidate who couldn’t garner 5% of the vote. It is funny how the losers always yell about voter fraud when their candidate doesn’t win”.

Yes, I agree that McCain is the MO Preferential Primary winner. I’ll even discount arguments on this thread that electronics made it happen. So, answer me this: why after I and many others signed a pledge at the MO 2nd CD to support the preferential winner, and verbally answered in the affirmative to the question of supporting the preferential winner at the Jefferson City armory, are we still contested to Branson?

The answer, I feel, is because we enhanced the St. Charles County caucus platform with planks we strongly believe in. I’ll assert that MO GOP officials don’t like the planks introduced, passed, and forwarded to the state convention. It has nothing to do with Ron Paul. If he were dead tomorrow, would GOP officials and the media continue to mischaracterize people as “Ron Paul supporters”. No, it’s about the concepts, not the man. It’s about the lack of debate about principles in this national contest. This thread, and others on various web forums spend far too much thought energy discussing men, and far too little on the real issues. The purpose, in my estimation, of forming a Conservative Values slate in St. Charles county was to attempt to force public debate about real issues within the Republican party as it concerns the nation. Judging from the myopic and narrow scope of the public debate I’ve witnessed so far concerning men since the St. Charles caucus, I’d say we’ve failed miserably. In this sense, I conclude that the “dumbing down of America” has taken firm hold.

Real Republican wrote, “But the votes of the little people do count…and Missouri elected John McCain in the Presidential Preference primary. It is the vote of the people that the party is trying to protect not the followers of a candidate who couldn’t garner 5% of the vote. It is funny how the losers always yell about voter fraud when their candidate doesn’t win”.

Yes, I agree that McCain is the MO Preferential Primary winner. I’ll even discount arguments on this thread and others that electronics made it happen.

No, I don’t agree that “it is the vote of the people that the party is trying to protect”.

Answer me this: why after I and many others signed a pledge at the MO 2nd CD to support the preferential winner, and verbally answered in the affirmative to the question of supporting the preferential winner at the Jefferson City armory, are we still contested to Branson?

The answer, I feel, is because we enhanced the St. Charles County caucus platform with planks we strongly believe in. I’ll assert that MO GOP officials don’t like the planks introduced, passed, and forwarded to the state convention. It has nothing to do with Ron Paul. If he were dead tomorrow, would GOP officials and the media continue to mischaracterize people as “Ron Paul supporters”? You can imagine the next salvo aimed at folks, based on some other trumped-up innuendo. No, it’s about the concepts, not the man. It’s about the lack of debate about principles in this national contest. This thread, and others on various web forums spend far too much thought energy discussing men, and far too little on the real issues. You people, all of you, are as disingenuous as the Democrats.

The purpose, in my estimation, of forming a Conservative Values slate in St. Charles county was to attempt to force public debate about real issues within the Republican party as it concerns the nation. Judging from the myopic and narrow scope of the public debate I’ve witnessed so far concerning men since the St. Charles caucus, I’d say we’ve failed miserably. In this sense, I conclude that the “dumbing down of America” has taken firm hold. Is there anyone out there that wants to debate whether the Federal Reserve bank is a viable institution? Is there anyone out there that wants to debate whether Missouri farmers should be forced by the U.S. government to put RFID’s in their livestock? Is there anyone out there that wants to debate whether Missouri casinos should be forced to lower the amount of money a gambler can lose every two hours? Is there anyone out there that wants to debate whether the money you work for every day should be based solely on a promise to pay or a real tangible asset that protects your family from inflation? My conclusion so far is you should all be ashamed of yourselves. By talking about nonsensical topics as I’ve witnessed, you might as well be talking about American Idol. But I have hope still you’ll all reach your senses and begin polite conversation about what really matters.

— Old-Republican
9:25 pm May 8th, 2008

This is a good article. I wish more of the media were exposing this kind of shenanigans by the GOP establishment. But given their longstanding efforts to shut alternative party candidates out of debates and keep alternative parties off ballots entirely, this shouldn’t come as too much of a surprise.

If we do not manage to get Ron Paul as the GOP nominee, I encourage everyone to look at the Libertarian Party (http://www.LP.org). There is a decent chance that the LP nominee will be Mary Ruwart, a medical researcher who Ron supported a few years ago to lead the FDA, and who shares many of his good qualities such as integrity, humility, and commitment to liberty. Her website is http://www.VoteMary2008.com

Also worth checking out is this animated video on the philosophy of liberty: http://www.isil.org/resources/introduction.swf

— Starchild
4:19 am May 10th, 2008

This is the first election cycle where my eyes have been opened to extreme depth of corruption of our imbedded politicians. This is an example on the State level where it is eerily familiar to that of the Federal level to thwart our republic. I guess these officials forgot the origin of their Party’s name. Here we have duly (democratically) elected people, who are to given the responsibility to “represent” their local electorate who elected them, being challenged as to their qualifications to represent their region. I will say this, that if they are targeting Ron Paul supporters, these people are probably far more educated about real issues than most of the candidates themselves who spend more of their time politicking and manipulating the uneducated masses for election/re-election where the primary objective is to gain monetary support so their “party wins” (meaning the people lose) rather than addressing real issues that affect all citizens. You know, things like the national debt ($ 9 Trillion), a unending, and yes un-winnable, war where more Americans have died than on 9/11 thus far and where more Iraqi’s have died than Sadaam killed, avoid duplicating this stupid idea by not attacking Iran, correcting the economic disaster by strengthening the dollar and eliminating the source of the problem-the Fed and the Fed’s Gestapo (the IRS), restoring the Constitutional rights and liberties of all individuals by abolishing the Patriot Act’s uncensored power, and maintaining the sovereignty of our nation (disallowing the North American Union to happen) and at the same time respecting the sovereignty of other nations and not being their parents or their police mandating they have a “democracy” like us. These idiots don’t even realize that we have a “republic” NOT a democracy. So who are the people not qualified here?

— Brian Pollock
3:02 pm May 10th, 2008

I was one of the ones challenged and when I got my turn to speak asked, “If I supported someone other than John McCain before the primary that is a challengable offense?” I was told, “Yes, we have a presumptive nominee.” What that says to me is that the MO GOP had chosen the nominee for MO before the primary and that anyone who supported Huckabee, Romney, Thompson, or Paul, could be challenged. People wake up, we need to get the MO GOP back to the principle of limited government and hold our candidates to that.

— Robyn
6:05 am May 11th, 2008

How is a liberal, pro-Amnesty, pro-gun control man who dumped his maimed wife in order to marry money a “real Republican”? McCain blocked access to documents that families of POWs requested in order to save HIMSELF since there is politically damaging information in them. And those are OUR debriefing files. Vietnam and Russia (at least) have some files on him that make McCain turn white as a ghost. This should alone disqualify him since he is subject to blackmail from foreign countries!

— Alex
12:11 pm May 11th, 2008

These blatent violations of GoodFaith by the NeoCons are actions of Warfare against American Society, and Humanity overall.
You know them by their fruits.

— Farrell Montgomery
1:32 pm May 17th, 2008

The traditional Republican Party no longer exists. Ron Paul ran on the Republican ticket for president to gain an audience for his message. As a result he did a tremendous amount of good for the future of this country. I don’t, however, believe as Dr. Paul does that the Republican Party can be fixed–it’s rotten to it’s core. The best course for good freedom loving people to take is through support of the relatively new Constitution Party, now the 3rd largest political party in the U.S. The platform of the Constitution Party could be taken right out of the many Ron Paul speeches.

— Jeff
2:24 pm June 4th, 2008