Paul allies have asked FBI to investigate Mo GOP
Political Fix just received a most intriguing e-mail, stating that “the FBI was mailed the first of many letters to come, requesting a formal investigation into the unethical and illegal practices of a faction of the Missouri Republican Party that have disenfranchised so many properly elected delegates by challenging them without basis….”
Claiming that the letter “was written by a former private investigator,” the anonymous e-mailer asserts that similar letters are being sent to other federal and state agencies.
“Jared Craighead, Executive Director of the Missouri GOP will also receive his letter tomorrow, alerting him to the formal investigation,” the e-mailer said.
Now on Youtube, the author adds, is a recording of one of the credentials hearings that state GOP leaders recently held, as they sought to unseat some of the 300 or so suspected Ron Paul supporters elected as delegates to the state convention on May 30-June 1, or to the presidential convention in September.
Party leaders have made clear that all delegates must support the presumptive Republican nominee for president, Sen. John McCain.
It’s unclear what legal basis is being used in requesting the FBI probe, since political parties generally have been deemed private entities. They don’t get any federal money, although they must comply with some federal or state restrictions regarding their private donations and the type of allowed assistance to candidates.
Still, the investigation request — and the intriguing video — indicate that Paul’s posse of followers will fight on. Could make the state convention in a couple weeks REAL interesting.


A NEW HOPE
We all have been living a nightmare. A vision D. Eisenhower warned of in his 1961 farewell address to the nation. In his address, Eisenhower warned of the corruption of our government, our society, and our culture by the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. It seems that, as a nation, we have not listened. Eisenhower’s dire vision has become our reality. And from this fearful dream, this nation is waking. Our eyes are opening to the truth collectively for the first time. WE THE PEOPLE are finding that we have been subjugated, placated into ignorance and fear, lied to by the very people we have entrusted to preserve and protect our rights, liberties, and our constitution. Many will turn away in fear of truth and close their eyes once again. To open our eyes to this reality, is to also understand that we are all responsible for it as well. complacency and dependence upon the machine keeps THE PEOPLE in line because it is convenient and safe. We have sold our souls. We have as a nation let this happen to ourselves.
My heart breaks for the people of this nation. Our government wages war upon our freedoms, liberties, and our constitution. I watch our republic’s destruction, not to the sound of guns or bombs, but to the sound of thunderous applause of those held captive by terrified patriotic blindness, guided by the propaganda of fear, as we give our rights and even the lives of our fellow man for the profit of the corrupt. A fear that is erasing our great history of freedom and repeating itself 70 years later with another dictatorship of war, under the guise of homeland security and the protection of the people.
BUT THERE IS STILL HOPE.
With love and openness, we can overcome ignorance and fear. It is our right as the people, and my duty as a United States MARINE written into our constitution by our founding fathers, entrusted to us, by the people, to ensure that our liberty, freedom, and the constitution never again become the subjugation of the corruption that we have wrought upon ourselves. We must take back our country, and give it to the people. So let us open our hearts, take responsibility, and make our HOPE become our reality. Lets begin REVOLUTION. His name
Dr. Ron Paul
Political parties “don’t get federal money”? Where did you hear that? Who do you think paid for the state primaries? Who do you think is paying for the St. Paul Convention?
Jo Mannies has almost redeemed herself as an objective reporter in this report. I say “almost” because this is the reporter that mischaracterized Ron Paul supporters as “marching” into Kirkwood High School to their ultimate fate at the hands of the CD2 Gestapo. The fact is that no one was marching into Kirkwood. Mannies simply chose to dramatize the event for STL readers at Ron Paul supporters’ expense. Keep a watchful eye on this reporter. You don’t know what kind of spin she’ll put on a story in order to self-aggrandize herself over the truth.
Actually since these state Republican conventions’ main purpose are to elect National Delegates to the National Republican Convention, yes they do have standing.
The Republican National Convention is paid for by tax dollars, as a matter of fact, the US Government specifically gives money just for the Democrat and Republican National Conventions. In 2000, the Reform Party received a substantial amount just for its convention because it received “Minor” party status via Perot.
I am not sure if I see the logic in the Republicans trying to stop Ron Paul supporters from playing their role as delegates. From what I can tell only the Ron Paul supporters have had any energy in the Republican Party and by the looks of the last three US Representative elections that the Republicans lost, they are going to need every vote they can get.
While I did not vote for Ron Paul in the primary, if I had known about him sooner I probably would have. As a good Republican there is no way I could support McCain who I have heard voted for Gore and Lieberman in 2000.
The real shocker was the complete betrayal by Todd Akin.
If ever there was an obvious wolf in sheep’s clothing, it is Todd Akin.
As a constituent, I contacted him about the situation and he flat-out ignored me.
He lost three vote, for certain, that day–mine, my wife’s and my oldest daughters.
We had been long-time staunch advocates for Todd Akin. Now I would vote for a liberal democrat before I’d ever vote for that weasel again.
How ironic that the libertarian wing of the GOP, which theoretically opposes governmental intervention - especially that of the federal government, now calls upon federal government intervention to achieve its goals!
Sorry, ag, but the only problem with Jo’s piece is one small grammatical error: The state convention could be REALLY (not REAL) interesting. (It takes an adverb to modify an adjective like “interesting.”)
The GOP is NOT above state and federal election laws!
What’s next? Calling the FBI out on the Rotary Club?
I’m sure that the FBI was very nice when you called… the same as they are with the guys who call to say they saw Elvis at the 7-11
The author turned one letter written by one individual into “Paul allies have asked FBI to investigate Mo GOP”. In turn, St_Louis_Oracle turned Paul allies into the “libertarian wing of the GOP”.
How ironic that, in just a few sentences, one individual has become thousands of GOP members.
Thanks for recognizing us as Republicans. Perhaps you should remind Magee and Akin of that fact.
If she was one of the challenged delegates then she would understand how they put us in a cirlce trying to intimidate us. They could not show us who challenged us or even give a good reason we were challenged other then they “believed” that we supported Ron Paul, BEFORE the primaries, which meant to them that we were not faithful republicans. The last time I checked there is no law that says that you cannot support another republican BEFORE the primaries. Yes in Branson we have to vote for John McCain the 1st round but that doesn’t mean you have to vote for him in the big election. If thats the case then why even have an election just throw everyone off the ballot and then make John McCain the next Hitlar. What happened to choices? We have the choice to support the truth not just some lying polition. If you dont believe me look at McCain lie at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c and if you support his 100yr war policy then leave your email address on a blog and I will give you my army equipment and I will pay for your flight to get to IRAQ. Oh the army is always taking volunteers!!!
Oh and for all you FAITHFUL REPUBLICANS that live in N. County please read below:
The North County Republican Club meeting will be held on Thursday, May 22 at Yac’s at 7:30 PM.Our special guests will be Gina Loudon, candidate for the 7th Senatorial District and T.R.Carr, mayor of Hazelwood and candidate for the 78th Missouri House District. Bring a good Republican friend. Remember, the food is good at Yac’s. For information, call Lou Hannibal, 831-6442.
This is a little reminiscent of the Keyes/Dole ticket that emerged from the State Convenion in ‘96. Of course, we lost to the D’s that year. Divided we fall…every time.
“How ironic that the libertarian wing of the GOP, which theoretically opposes governmental intervention - especially that of the federal government, now calls upon federal government intervention to achieve its goals!”
Actually, it is the job of the federal government to step in and ensure the states and local governments aren’t trampling on the freedoms of it’s citizens. Libertarians object to a federal government which instead does the trampling rather than doing the job it was formed to do, protect the liberties and freedoms of the people.
Nothing Ironic or theoretically opposed about it. It’s always been about the proper role of government.
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I do not agree with most of the posters on this blog. I personally support about 80% of what Ron Paul stands for/ But I am really mad about what the avid Ron Paul Supporters have done to the caucus process in Mo. By signing into the county Caucus’s, they certified they were Republicans. It was found some of those who signed in were actually Libeterian committee people. That was not ethical. they then proceeded to disropt the caucus’s(may I mention for almost all the Ron Paul people, it was the FIRST time they had ever attended any Republican event-This demonstrates they are not true Republicans. Many county and Congressional caucus’s were so severely disrupted that platform issues could not be discussed, and had to be referred th the next caucus as ” no recommendations”. One of the two primary reasons for the caucus procedure is to allow grassroot input into the final state platform, and consequently the national platform. All the
normanl;y active Republicans were cheated out of our due process of being able to input to the platform. What is so dumb on the Ron Paul people’s part, is that by disrupting this process, the 80% of what they brought forth that was really good also will fail to get into the platform. The RP
people have stated they ”just want to make their voice heard”, but they have kiled that opportunity by their un-ethical actions. What they have done is to divide the conservative community. I personally feel that
now some of these people have been identified, I prefer to never speak to any of them again, and I certainly could not consider them as a friend, or worth of anything. They went about it the wrong way and it has hurt everyone. The big worry now is that it will give the presidency to the most liberal person in our congress- Barrack Hussein Obama. I sincerely hope they act like the Repbublicans they claim to be at the State and National Convention.
4 % of the primary vote. That’s how much support Ron Paul was able to garner in a Republican primary. How does that give his backers a mandate to sabotoge the process? The mainstream Republican Party will not be hijacked by a minority, no matter how motivated they are.
One last thing. Many of us regular Republicans see many (not all)of the Ron Paul backers as, well… paranoid kooks. How does making threats to sic the FBI on us regular Republicans banish that stereotype? How does it play into libertarian ideology to threaten to use government coercion to overturn the expressed will of the voters?
4% of the primary vote. Didn’t carry a single county.
Revolution? Please.
What are we going to do if the following occurs:
“Chavez Says Attack Could Send Oil to $500
The Moscow Times Sun, 18 May 2008 1:59 PM PDT
19 May 2008 Bloomberg CARACAS, Venezuela — Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said last week that crude oil would rise to “$400 or $500″ per barrel in the event of a U.S. attack on his country, the biggest petroleum exporter in the Americas.”
Why do Bill Haas, Oracle and Paul Revere all have same email address…roommates perhaps??? Both English majors and instructors?
To RCB, see inline comments:
“How does that give his backers a mandate to sabotoge the process?”
First off, what you refuse to open your eyes and see is that most of HIS backers were Republicans well before they were HIS backers. Secondly, how does peacefully following the rules (rules set forth by the Party) and being organized considered “sabotoge”? Sabotoge is what happened at CD2. Sabotage is what is happening to the “challenged” delegates to the State Convention.
“The mainstream Republican Party will not be hijacked by a minority, no matter how motivated they are.”
If the people doing the hijacking (as you say) were truly a minority, then there is NO WAY they could be successful. What scares “regular Republicans” like you is that you saw that liberty-minded Republicans are NOT a small a minority as your comfort level lets you believe. From MY perspective the Republican party is what has been hijacked. Republicans USED to work for less (smaller) Government. Now Republicans have expanded the size of the government to record levels. They have skyrocketed the Federal Debt to record levels. They have turned the USA into the world’s police and taken it upon themselves to install “democracy” wherever they choose. They have instituted violations of core civil liberties and gone against the numerous warnings the Founding Fathers set forth (anyone who has EVER taken the time to read their writings would know that). The Republican Party is what has been hijacked.
“Many of us regular Republicans see many (not all)of the Ron Paul backers as, well… paranoid kooks.”
That’s unfortunate. As with any group of any size, there are fringe, but they are NOT representative of the whole. If opposing Real ID (the US equivalent of Nazi Germany’s “papers”) puts me in that category, then so be it. I’d rather be considered a kook and be free than to live in tyranny.
“How does making threats to sic the FBI on us regular Republicans banish that stereotype? How does it play into libertarian ideology to threaten to use government coercion to overturn the expressed will of the voters?”
The whole FBI thing is also unfortunate. Personally, I think it’s silly. The Republican Party is a private entity and can invite whom they want. That being said, what does being a believer in the ideals that Ron Paul stands for constitute “overturning the expressed will of the voters”? How does working on a Republican candidate’s campaign (Ron Paul) disqualify someone who has ALWAYS voted Republican from being a delegate to a District Caucus or State Convention?
And I believe it’s quite disingenuous to play the “will of the voters” card. The Missouri Republican Party rules state that (paraphrasing) the National Delegates must vote for the winner of the Public Preference Primary at the National Convention (in the first round, barring a brokered convention). Quite frankly, I have ZERO doubt in my mind that if Ron Paul would have won the primary, that every county and district caucus would have had the “regular Republicans” clammoring to amend the party platform to unbind the delegates from the results of the primary.
If anything, the my experience at CD2 and the State Republican Party have taught me 2 things. A) The Republican Party, in spite of their “open door” policy will not tolerate ANY person with views that do not 100% line up with what the elites want, and B) the party elites have control to do exactly what they want, when they want, and how they want with no repercussions or conscience regarding the folks they’re disenfranchising. The entire process is a mockery.
I got involved in the political process believing that things like “votes”, “caucuses”, “delegates”, etc were part of a controlled process that was governed by rules, order, and fairness. Now my eyes are open, and I see that it’s all a sham. I have even less hope for the future of this country now that I’ve been exposed to the “innerworkings” of the Republican Party.
This has nothing to do with who you support, it has everything to do with following the rules of the call to convention. As the Ron Paul tell everyone that their intention is to change the rules and take national delgates from McCain and give them to Paul, they are changing the rules of the presidential primary after the game is complete. This is not healthy for a political party; if you want to play the game, play by the rules or sit on the sidelines.
Ray Smith,
Thanks for sharing. If you support about 80% of what Ron Paul stands for, then have you shared this with McCain? Instead of polarizing this debate, casting one group against another, why not reach consensus on some issues?
No one individual controls another. If some Libertarians signed in as Republicans are Republicans somehow responsible for that?
At what age must one begin to attend Republican events to be considered “true Republicans”? How many events must one attend to be considered a “true Republican”? Is the answer one, or five or ten? Please let us know.
Your description of disrupted caucuses is news. You’re not describing St. Charles county. In St. Charles, all delegates and alternates were provided several hours to bring forth amendments to the MO party platform. Platform issues were encouraged and discussed at length by all interested participants. Discussion ensued on all amendments. And votes were cast by caucus rules. The St. Charles County Chairman of the GOP ensured that rules were followed by helping all participants in his role as Parliamentarian of the caucus. Please specify examples of MO caucuses that were disrupted.
Lest we forget, many of your neighbors that you don’t want to speak to are still contested delegates to the state convention, despite having promised in Kirkwood and Jefferson City to support the preferential primary candidate. It’s our party that holds the axe over our neck, not your party alone.
Missouri Revised Statute:
Caucuses, delegates for national conventions.
115.776. The state party organization which is the state organization recognized by the national organization of that established political party shall, after the primary and before the national convention,
conduct a series of caucuses culminating in congressional and state conventions. Delegates to the national conventions shall be chosen at the congressional district and state conventions PURSUANT TO RULES
established by the political parties. (Rules weren’t followed)
The FBI investigates cases such as civil rights violations.
The fact that the Party leaders across the country are trying to remove anyone that could be anti McCain is disturbing to say the least. They say that others that support Ron Paul are planning to do things to embarrass the party or steal the election… I think they should look in the mirror if they want to see who is stealing the election or who is the real the real embarrassment. I have never seen such outright deception or anti democracy tactics used in any other election.
I am astounded to see the lengths the party leaders like Jared Craighead are willing to go to get McCain elected. They have stooped to new low’s to show the fix is in and deny anyone that may have supported any other republican candidate. It centrally makes one wonder just how far are they willing to go to cheat the delegates elected at the republican caucuses out of the right to participate in the election process and the remaining conventions.
I guess maybe the biggest question is will they get away with it ???
Maybe we should all file complaints with the state and federal GOP and The RNC…
Let them know that we are not going to stand for such attempts by the republican party leaders or any other group, organization, or party to distort or deny democracy in the United States of America.
When are you filing you complaint??
You can’t take an email from a Ron Paul supporter seriously. They are whackjobs for the most part.