Oh and for all you FAITHFUL REPUBLICANS that live in N. County please read below:

The North County Republican Club meeting will be held on Thursday, May 22 at Yac’s at 7:30 PM.Our special guests will be Gina Loudon, candidate for the 7th Senatorial District and T.R.Carr, mayor of Hazelwood and candidate for the 78th Missouri House District. Bring a good Republican friend. Remember, the food is good at Yac’s. For information, call Lou Hannibal, 831-6442.

This is a little reminiscent of the Keyes/Dole ticket that emerged from the State Convenion in ‘96. Of course, we lost to the D’s that year. Divided we fall…every time.

“How ironic that the libertarian wing of the GOP, which theoretically opposes governmental intervention - especially that of the federal government, now calls upon federal government intervention to achieve its goals!”

Actually, it is the job of the federal government to step in and ensure the states and local governments aren’t trampling on the freedoms of it’s citizens. Libertarians object to a federal government which instead does the trampling rather than doing the job it was formed to do, protect the liberties and freedoms of the people.

Nothing Ironic or theoretically opposed about it. It’s always been about the proper role of government.

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I do not agree with most of the posters on this blog. I personally support about 80% of what Ron Paul stands for/ But I am really mad about what the avid Ron Paul Supporters have done to the caucus process in Mo. By signing into the county Caucus\’s, they certified they were Republicans. It was found some of those who signed in were actually Libeterian committee people. That was not ethical. they then proceeded to disropt the caucus\’s(may I mention for almost all the Ron Paul people, it was the FIRST time they had ever attended any Republican event-This demonstrates they are not true Republicans. Many county and Congressional caucus\’s were so severely disrupted that platform issues could not be discussed, and had to be referred th the next caucus as \” no recommendations\”. One of the two primary reasons for the caucus procedure is to allow grassroot input into the final state platform, and consequently the national platform. All the
normanl;y active Republicans were cheated out of our due process of being able to input to the platform. What is so dumb on the Ron Paul people\’s part, is that by disrupting this process, the 80% of what they brought forth that was really good also will fail to get into the platform. The RP
people have stated they \”just want to make their voice heard\”, but they have kiled that opportunity by their un-ethical actions. What they have done is to divide the conservative community. I personally feel that
now some of these people have been identified, I prefer to never speak to any of them again, and I certainly could not consider them as a friend, or worth of anything. They went about it the wrong way and it has hurt everyone. The big worry now is that it will give the presidency to the most liberal person in our congress- Barrack Hussein Obama. I sincerely hope they act like the Repbublicans they claim to be at the State and National Convention.

4 % of the primary vote. That’s how much support Ron Paul was able to garner in a Republican primary. How does that give his backers a mandate to sabotoge the process? The mainstream Republican Party will not be hijacked by a minority, no matter how motivated they are.
One last thing. Many of us regular Republicans see many (not all)of the Ron Paul backers as, well… paranoid kooks. How does making threats to sic the FBI on us regular Republicans banish that stereotype? How does it play into libertarian ideology to threaten to use government coercion to overturn the expressed will of the voters?
4% of the primary vote. Didn’t carry a single county.
Revolution? Please.

What are we going to do if the following occurs:

“Chavez Says Attack Could Send Oil to $500
The Moscow Times Sun, 18 May 2008 1:59 PM PDT
19 May 2008 Bloomberg CARACAS, Venezuela — Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said last week that crude oil would rise to “$400 or $500″ per barrel in the event of a U.S. attack on his country, the biggest petroleum exporter in the Americas.”

Why do Bill Haas, Oracle and Paul Revere all have same email address…roommates perhaps??? Both English majors and instructors?

To RCB, see inline comments:

“How does that give his backers a mandate to sabotoge the process?”

First off, what you refuse to open your eyes and see is that most of HIS backers were Republicans well before they were HIS backers. Secondly, how does peacefully following the rules (rules set forth by the Party) and being organized considered “sabotoge”? Sabotoge is what happened at CD2. Sabotage is what is happening to the “challenged” delegates to the State Convention.

“The mainstream Republican Party will not be hijacked by a minority, no matter how motivated they are.”

If the people doing the hijacking (as you say) were truly a minority, then there is NO WAY they could be successful. What scares “regular Republicans” like you is that you saw that liberty-minded Republicans are NOT a small a minority as your comfort level lets you believe. From MY perspective the Republican party is what has been hijacked. Republicans USED to work for less (smaller) Government. Now Republicans have expanded the size of the government to record levels. They have skyrocketed the Federal Debt to record levels. They have turned the USA into the world’s police and taken it upon themselves to install “democracy” wherever they choose. They have instituted violations of core civil liberties and gone against the numerous warnings the Founding Fathers set forth (anyone who has EVER taken the time to read their writings would know that). The Republican Party is what has been hijacked.

“Many of us regular Republicans see many (not all)of the Ron Paul backers as, well… paranoid kooks.”

That’s unfortunate. As with any group of any size, there are fringe, but they are NOT representative of the whole. If opposing Real ID (the US equivalent of Nazi Germany’s “papers”) puts me in that category, then so be it. I’d rather be considered a kook and be free than to live in tyranny.

“How does making threats to sic the FBI on us regular Republicans banish that stereotype? How does it play into libertarian ideology to threaten to use government coercion to overturn the expressed will of the voters?”

The whole FBI thing is also unfortunate. Personally, I think it’s silly. The Republican Party is a private entity and can invite whom they want. That being said, what does being a believer in the ideals that Ron Paul stands for constitute “overturning the expressed will of the voters”? How does working on a Republican candidate’s campaign (Ron Paul) disqualify someone who has ALWAYS voted Republican from being a delegate to a District Caucus or State Convention?

And I believe it’s quite disingenuous to play the “will of the voters” card. The Missouri Republican Party rules state that (paraphrasing) the National Delegates must vote for the winner of the Public Preference Primary at the National Convention (in the first round, barring a brokered convention). Quite frankly, I have ZERO doubt in my mind that if Ron Paul would have won the primary, that every county and district caucus would have had the “regular Republicans” clammoring to amend the party platform to unbind the delegates from the results of the primary.

If anything, the my experience at CD2 and the State Republican Party have taught me 2 things. A) The Republican Party, in spite of their “open door” policy will not tolerate ANY person with views that do not 100% line up with what the elites want, and B) the party elites have control to do exactly what they want, when they want, and how they want with no repercussions or conscience regarding the folks they’re disenfranchising. The entire process is a mockery.

I got involved in the political process believing that things like “votes”, “caucuses”, “delegates”, etc were part of a controlled process that was governed by rules, order, and fairness. Now my eyes are open, and I see that it’s all a sham. I have even less hope for the future of this country now that I’ve been exposed to the “innerworkings” of the Republican Party.

This has nothing to do with who you support, it has everything to do with following the rules of the call to convention. As the Ron Paul tell everyone that their intention is to change the rules and take national delgates from McCain and give them to Paul, they are changing the rules of the presidential primary after the game is complete. This is not healthy for a political party; if you want to play the game, play by the rules or sit on the sidelines.

Ray Smith,

Thanks for sharing. If you support about 80% of what Ron Paul stands for, then have you shared this with McCain? Instead of polarizing this debate, casting one group against another, why not reach consensus on some issues?

No one individual controls another. If some Libertarians signed in as Republicans are Republicans somehow responsible for that?

At what age must one begin to attend Republican events to be considered “true Republicans”? How many events must one attend to be considered a “true Republican”? Is the answer one, or five or ten? Please let us know.

Your description of disrupted caucuses is news. You’re not describing St. Charles county. In St. Charles, all delegates and alternates were provided several hours to bring forth amendments to the MO party platform. Platform issues were encouraged and discussed at length by all interested participants. Discussion ensued on all amendments. And votes were cast by caucus rules. The St. Charles County Chairman of the GOP ensured that rules were followed by helping all participants in his role as Parliamentarian of the caucus. Please specify examples of MO caucuses that were disrupted.

Lest we forget, many of your neighbors that you don’t want to speak to are still contested delegates to the state convention, despite having promised in Kirkwood and Jefferson City to support the preferential primary candidate. It’s our party that holds the axe over our neck, not your party alone.