Obviously, nearly all delegates to the Democratic National Convention will ultimately vote for the Democratic nominee. That isn’t the point. There are many out there who are very disappointed that Clinton didn’t win, and some who feel that not a little trickery was involved here. Some portion of them will not vote for Obama in November, and depending upon how many, it may make a difference.

My grandmother was an infant when the 19th amendment was ratified. She was thrilled at the possibility that, in her lifetime, a woman might be elected President. I rather doubt that she’ll vote for Obama, particularly now that he selected somebody other than Clinton as his veep. Is grandma bitter? Not really, just very disappointed.

No, you probably won’t get a delegate on camera saying they won’t support Obama, but if you come talk to some of us regular women (and men) out here who believed Hillary was the best candidate, we’ll be happy to say we aren’t falling all over ourselves to support Obama. Pretending we don’t exist is not going to make us go away.

Hillary supporters indentifying themselves as “Democrats for McCain” were at the RNC rally on Saturday for McCain tix. The Hillary voters want McCain so Hillary can run against him in 2012. They don’t want to wait 8 more years. Think about it folds. They are ticked. Hillary should have gotten the VP slot hands down.

In fact, the Hillary supporters have real reason for concern. She won the popular vote and there is a possible investigation into caucus vote fraud involving Obama’s previous “employer” ACORN, the vote fraud specialists.
Let’s not forget folks, Obama is from Chicago, the home of voter fraud ala the Daley group. Think about it. Here is some info on it:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/

Sorry, bad ACORN vote fraud link, but enjoy that one too. Here is the correct one:
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/obama-ayres-annenberg-and-acorn-a-family-affair/

The problem with your logic though, Centrist, is that the Democratic Party does not stand for any one candidate, it stands for principles. I can understand Hillary supporters being frustrated and disappointed in her not being on the ticket, but she lost–plain and simple. Her campaign failed to run an effective campaign early on (and they freely admit this) that she should have won easily. I find it offensive that many of her most ardent supporters feel that she is entitled to a spot on the ticket. I also find it mind-boggling that some Hillary supporters are willing to vote for McCain out of spite. They’re willing to set back the clock on reproductive rights since their candidate wasn’t chosen? Moreover, I just cannot imagine the Democratic Party flocking to Hillary in four years if Obama loses the election. Many feel as though the Democratic Party as a whole was hurt by the long and bitter primary, so why would they rally around someone four years later who contributed to that? Sounds pretty ridiculous to me.

I can understand that there are disappointed HRC supporters in Denver and elsewhere. If she had won, I would have a disappointed Obama supporter–working hard for HRC. Just the way that HRC is now acting like a stand-up Democrat and working for the party (in spite of manufactured efforts to gin up resentment).

Incidentally, I just read a very convincing account of a Republican woman who lives in Denver being solicited to turn out as a “Democrat for McCain” at a pro-McCain rally in Denver. So, Centrist, you should not take everything at face value. We on the Democratic side know that the other guys reliably play dirty.

As for winning the popular vote, Centrist, give it a rest. Given that the Democratic primaries are a mix of caucuses and conventional elections, any declaration that HRC won the “popular vote” is meaningless. And there is no real way to resolve the Florida and Michigan mess in a way that is fair to Obama which fact further undermines these pathetic claims. Obama straight-up won an electoral process that all the candidates understood and agreed to before hand. Just like he will win in November.

Why does the Axis of Ignorance have all the posts at the beginning of the comment section?

And, we get to hear more of their ignorant rants and yapping about some support for McCain from Hillary supporters, a GOP perpetuated myth!

If KKKarl Rove and his crooked, sexist, fascist GOP corporatist cronies ever cared about an issue relating to women, it was who was going to hit on her first.

John McCain is too ignorant for any woman to support for President!

John McCain is STIL too ignorant for anyone to support for President!

http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/08/04/15-reasons-john-mccain-is-too-ignorant-to-be-president/

What a Democrat on principle and IreneK are missing, as are most other pundits, is that many Hillary backers are not party line “tell me who to vote for and I’ll do it” Democrats. We independents who supported her because we thought she is a great candidate and who are determined that the gender barrier needs to be broken are not going to vote for Obama just because the Democratic party chose him. Neither political party wins alone, both need some independents to go their way to have enough to win. Obama slapped us in the face by choosing a white male vp, and he has the nerve to think we owe him our votes? He can try to win them, but he’d better do a better job from here on out because he’s not off to a very good start. He and the rest who think we will “come around” are showing a complete failure to understand the depth of our feelings and what motivates us. Trying to explain us away as racist is ridiculous, simplistic, and will not shame us into voting for someone we don’t think was the best choice. We don’t have to vote for McCain, just not voting for Obama will be a strong enough message. If McCain wins, oh well. The Democrats will just have to pick better next time if they want our votes.