Can anybody confirm rumor that Charlie Brennan/KMOX is refusing to book David Freddoso? Are they cowing to fears of a targeted attack … similar to what Team Obama’s did to WGN (see link) ?

http://blogs.kansascity.com/tvbarn/2008/09/the-myth-of-swi.html

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“This has never been or never will be about prosecuting people.”

Then, Jennifer Joyce, explain to me why the KMOV report, in which you were featured, states that the Obama campaign is asking Missouri “law enforcement” to “target” people. The report specifies and interviews you, Jennifer Joyce, along with Bob McCulloch, in your roles as “two high-profile prosecutors.” The report quotes you two as saying that you “plan to respond immediately” in your role as prosectuors.

http://www.kmov.com/video/index.html?nvid=285793&shu=1

Your veiled threats and attempts at intimidation will not silence critics of “Il Duce” Obama.

Obama along with brownshirts like Jennifer Joyce, McCullough and Claire MacCaskil are bringing gestopo tactics to politics in the United States. They should all three step down or move to Russia.

You are such liar!

Your Chicago style thug politics may work in Chicago but they’re not gonna work with mainstream America.

You are a PATHETIC person.

The suppression of free speech using intimidation and the threat of legal consequences has begun. Next, disagreeing with Obama or any democrat will be deemed a thought crime.

Ya vienen las fascistas.

This is some sort of a sick joke, right? Americans don’t behave this way. Maybe I woke up in Amerika, where opposing Demokrats gets you carted off to a camp where you can be taught to think right.

Amazing. Shameful. An astounding partisan abuse of prosecutoral power. Those involved should resign, if for no other reason than these fascist tactics are an insult to everyone who ever sacrificed to make and keep this country free.

Interesting indeed!

Citizen? Listen Jen, you may call yourself that only if you
uphold the values of being such.

So the choice is yours.

So sorry Comrade Jennifer,
Your pathetic attempt to cover your tracks is far too little, far too late. 55 years of life in the United States of America, in my darkest nightmares did I ever think I’d live to see the day that goons….goons with law enforcement powers would be running “Truth Squads”? True Americans know how this story plays out… Truth Squads, Reeducation Camps and finally the Gas Chamber. Anyone with an ounce of sanity must now do what needs to be done. Nip this in the bud and nip it quickly and completely.
Comrade Jen, I assume you are an elected official, while I am not a resident of the Great State of Missouri, I am now very interested in your “career”. I shall gladly and freely donate the maximum funds permissible by law to whomever is your next opponent. If you win re-election, I’ll donate again to your opponent when the next cycle rolls around. I will continue until you are defeated or until I breathe my last breath of free air.
Your spin is not believable, it is perfectly clear what you are, Comrade.

This is not the America I know.

Scott H.
Florida, USA

Not on my watch lady!!! Der Kommisar Joyce vill come for you ,,,,if you say anything,,,untoward toward her MESSIAH, you know, “The One!”

Obama is a Marxist. Obama is a liar. Obama is a thug. Obama has practiced the Muslim religion. Obama has wasted Illinois taxpayer monies. Obama is a community agitator. Obama is corrupt. Obama is not for any sort of change this country needs. Obama does not allow negative comments to follow his YOUTUBE ads. Obama does not allow signs on public property at his rallies. Obama is the most liberal senator in the Congress. He is a horrible, wretched , vile, media-inflated, limp biscuit loser.

Oh and he has bad breath (according to Michelle).

COME AND GET ME KOMMISAR!!!!

You have just participated in an activity designed to terminate our rights under the First Amendment and I would hope that you are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. St. Louis is one of the highest crime areas in the United States. Your resources could better be used to attempt to do something about that issue. Regardless of who is running against you next time, I will support them with my time and my money. You obviously prefer presidential campaigning to fulfilling your responsibilities to Missouri residents so I would strongly suggest that you resign and go work for Obama without delay. Missouri DOES NOT NEED YOU.

You very likely have violated the terms of the oath of the Code of Professional Conduct for Attorneys and possibly some federal laws. You should be reported to the Missouri Bar for Prosecutorial Miscoduct and Abuse of Power for using your position to frighten people with a thinly-veiled threat to bring a lawsuit against those who do not agree with YOUR perception of YOUR candidate. If you said you were going to do it for ALL candidates, that might be different - but you have made it clear - this is in support of only one candidate.

This country was founded on the principle of freedom of speech and you absolutely can not imply, nor infer that you will use your position as an attorney (who happens to be a prosecutor) to bring criminal or civil charges against persons to whom do not agree with your perception/truth of your candidate.

It is telling that our forefathers made the freedom of speech our first amendment to the constitution. You state that, “My sole purpose in participating in this initiative is about getting truthful information to the voters.” But you CAN NOT impose what YOU feel is the truth by using the police and threats of legal action, whether civil or criminal, to frighten people where they feel that they can say nothing. I think you know that it would be very, if not impossible, to move forward with any sort of civil suit given all these public figures - so you are trying to use your position to scare people who do not know the law as well as we do.

People do not know what YOU think might be *THE* truth and you hold yourself out as an attorney, who by the way - “I’m a Prosecutor,” and say legal action will be taken. This in itself is chilling - as I would imagine most people would absolutely abhor the thought of a lawsuit being brought again them, civil or criminal, especially when a lawyer who works as a prosecutor says it (even if you meant civil).

Do the right thing. Do the ethical thing.

Hey I have an idea! How about we get to the real issues instead of these ridiculous Obama=Osama crap. Not to mention some of the most deceitful “ads” if you can even call them ads are boring me and not only upsetting me but honestly making me laugh at what this “great nation” is coming to. Young generations are told to not even think about having social security because of this mess government has created. The baby boom generation is just about to retire in the masses, the “war” is still going on, and now they want to use 700 billion to save corrupt selfish millionaires? Am I missing something? Stop the name calling and get to the real issues. What are you going to do for my generation and how are you going to clean up this mess you are leaving for me and the future generations?

If you’re going to have a truth squad of some kind for commercials, fair enough. But a prosecutor on it? Uncomfortable. Two of them? Totally inappropriate! Totally. And I’m a vigorous Democrat! So there. Truth squad, sure; we need oversight of inaccurate commercials. But in a legal framework of independent voices, not Democratic prosecutors for goodness sake! I guess this may prove my saying, “Not your usual Democrat.” Well meaning, perhaps, and prosecutors are supposed to be good at telling fact from fancy, but not on this kind of committee. First, it does smack of intimidation even if not meant to; and worse, dumb, as they should have known it would lead to this backlash publicity for the other side. And no one listens to partisan truth squads, anyhow, so why take the risk? By the way, McCain’s truth squad in Missouri seems to have had no problem with my Sarah Palin radio commercials on behalf of my candidacy; no surprise to me.

You should be ashamed of your self and should resign. You nothing more then a partisan hack who is using Nazi tactics in this election. Shame on you. You don’t belong in the USA since you must hate this country if you can’t respect the constitution.

“My sole purpose in participating in this initiative is about getting truthful information to the voters.” This is a lie that insults our intelligence. Your sole purpose is to abuse your power to help elect Obama. I noticed that you don’t seem to care if untruthful information about McCain or Palin gets out there. Why is that? I have never in my life see law enforcement officials unethically side with a political campaign like this. Not in the USA, that is.

I saw the video on the web. Perhaps the station misrepresented you. However, I do believe you should not be taking partisan political positions if you are a servant of the court. Will you be going after the Atlantic for suggesting that Palin faked her pregnancy? I grew up in a neighborhood that was populated by survivors of work camps in Poland and France during WWII. Suppression of free speech was one of the first steps of totalitarian regimes whether they be Fascist or Maoist. I really don’t want our country to go down the road of Venezuela or Zibabawe. This is very scary stuff.

Look at all the Republican whiners trying to create a fake controversey because all the polls are tipping dramatically in favor of Obama/Biden. Maybe this will be the “game changer” they keep looking for to save this pathetic farse of a campaign.

It is kind of funny to hear all these torture-happy GOPers get all in snit about constitutional rights. Hilarious.

Hey, goofballs. The First Amendment does not protect false or misleading speech. This is why, for example, the state can prosecute false advertising, fraud and the like. Therefore, if you use the public airwaves to disseminate an ad that is demonstratably false, it is not protected by the first amendment. Admittedly, if you are dealing with a public official the ad has to show a reckless diregard for its falsity, but if that can be shown, then the ad is simply not protected speech.

That said, can any one of you give me any evidence that anyone has been prosecuted by an “truth squad” here in Missouri (or by McCain’s truth squad in NH for that matter) or intmidated in any way from spouting lies. Looks like you guys are managing just fine.

Let me give you an easy example of this whole truth vs. false thing so even your Rush-addled brains can grasp it. Let;s say I were to run an ad saying that McCain is an adulterer who left his crippled first wife for a beer-heiress in order to further his political career. Now that would be a true and well-documented statement and therefore fully-protected by the First Amendment. However, if I were to run an ad saying that Sarah Palin was possessed with evil spirits, that would clearly be false because we all know she had a preacher lay hands on her and exorcise those spirits back in 2005. I mean we all saw that on utube. So that statement would not be protected by the First Amendment.

Well, at least Ed Martin finally got a “real” job with the American Issues Project after he royally screwed up with Blunt’s email gate.

OBAMA/BIDEN 08

Rush-addled brains? I am familiar with sedges and different types of prairie grasses and have heard of rush as a type of forb in mesic forests. Is that what you are referring to? Is this a disease of ruminants? Maybe like the milk sickness that killed Nancy Lincoln?

Glenn, your language is demeaning and offensive. Shame on you.

Yes, Glenn’s language was highly offensive, which is why the comment was deleted.

McCain = Bridge to Nowhere:

Your post, as devoid of fact though it was, is an excellent example of talk, if made of Obama, would get you at best sued, at worse arrested, as stated by the two area PA.

Yet you see nothing wrong.

Wonderful…

Everyone else: GREAT POSTS!

To Ms.Joyce and Mr. McCullough

Your personal belief is not at stake here. You are using the power of the office of your public position to coerce individuals to vote for Obama or to leave the impression that if they speak, write, campaign in any manner that the full weight of the law will descend upon them. No matter what you think, that is what your are conveying as result of your ill chosen path.There is a sign on your door which appears in the Clip which says it all.. Insuring that nothing which is derogatory about Obama seeps through the cordon of a phalanx of self appointed ministers of what constitutes allowable political speech is beyond the pale. Both of you an all others involved have injured the Constitution of this country and done a gross disservice to the people of Missouri. I respectfully ask each of you and any other members of law enforcement involved to resign immediately. I have sent a letter to the Department of Justice requesting whether your association as a law enforcement group constitutes a conspiracy under Title 18, part 1, chap 13. Conspiracy to Interfere with Civil Rights. If you do not understand the seriousness of your endeavor, you should not be in the job you are currently doing. God help us all, if people like yourselves, ever come to power in this country.

Hey Joyce:

Funny how the report talks about the Obama campaign asking law enforcement to “target anyone who lies or runs a misleading TV ad during the presidential campaign.”

Gee, what do prosecutors do? If you call someone it is as a private citizen? Somehow I missed that part of the report. Did you and Bob send out a press release saying the report was wrong?

You and Bob will do fine working in Chicago. Their politics is right up your alley.

Hi, Missouri, I live in PA, and the Obama attorneys are all over our radio and TV stations threatening to sue if they play ads generated by the NRA about Obama’s history on gun control. The NRA has the facts to back up their ads, so we will see what happens, but I find their lawsuits very strange coming from a campaign whose ads in PA have either been filled with lies or have comments by McCain taken totally out of context, which is another form of lying. I am a Democrat voting straight Republican this year, as the thought of this Obama thug as POTUS chills me to the bone.

Is this lady elected? If she is I will start a fund for anyone running against her. Democratic or Republican because this is so over the top. I hope that any place that she speaks at according to her bio, shuts her down and never asks her to approach their groups again, and i will fund any protesters that will show up at any speach she makes!

So many 1st timers trying to start a fire.
Almost none of usual rowdies that that usually try to stink up this forum

To much of a coincidence I say - These 1st timers are paid posters, most likely for the McCain campaign
Paid to post in mass to show false outrage.

More false accusations
Lots of fake outrage
Try, try, try.
Type, type, type

It won’t work
Give up
He’s clean

The robots of the republican base must really be back on their heels at this point to be comparing Obama to Mussolini, democrats to brownshirts and referring to “gestapo tactics”. The sad thing is that people like you are the ones who see a leader (like Bush, now McCain…) and follow him without asking questions or digging deeper to know the truth. This Republican tendency is much more akin to fascism and with Bush you pushed this to new levels: Guantanamo Bay, torture, war without allies, wire tapping and reading our emails, “watch lists” and security cameras. And mercenary police forces like Blackwater, who were witnessed in action DOMESTICALLY after Hurricane Katrina. And you have the balls to call democrats fascists?

You should leave every one of the posts by James up because each one gives you a glimpse into the dark, slimy window of the missouri republican soul. I’ll just bet (like he claims) he never uses the “c” word. Probably only when he talks about women. Especially the educated ones. Thank you Jennifer and Bob for coming to the rescue of the victim of the right wing republican lie machine: the truth. Funny you people (posters from the campaign) don’t worry about real fascism when its perpetrated by Bush, Rove, Cheney, et al.

McSame has been putting out lies and half-truths about Obama for several months now. Bold faced out and out lies that even when they are proven wrong McSame still “approves this message” and allows the lies to go on.

I say go for it Jennifer! Go after the maverick and his moose queen. Right wing whack jobs are just unhappy because their Karl Rove methods are not going to go unchecked this time. We see through it this time.

What about Bush and his gestapo tactics? That’s a much bigger issue. Shh, they are checking this post as I send it.

Scott H. You have enough to worry about in Florida. Stay there and mind your own business. Freedom…dang man. How much hate can a person feel? You sound bitter and miserable. Go get some medication.

I agree with you Penelope. Leave his posts up. They will only serve as another reason why 8 years is enough.

Wow. How much hate can a person have in their heart? I’m thinking he must have been drunk. The unfortunate thing about James is that he can vote. Unless that is he is a felon. Which, from reading his post, he may very well be.

I don’t care how Ms Joyce wants to term it or how she distorts it. Americans have the 1st Amendment right to Freedom of Speech unless it incites civil unrest. Even an untrue ad about either candidate does not meet that standard. More pointedly as an attorney she knows that.

NEVER before have candidates like Obama threatened to prosecute anyone who opposed them. Put out your own ad, but using the guise of legal action is reminescent of Nazi Germany or Russia. If Americans value the Constitution and their freedoms, they need to stop this. All nations that removed citizens’ freedom started small and built.

Look around the country, Democrats suing groups like NRA, disrupting radio broadcasts in Chicago, banning rally signs on a VA campus…where will it end. Free Americans can get information for both sides without the government playing parent, Ms. Joyce.

I’m sure this is going to backfire on them. This is intimidation at its’ worse. And to think these are elected bureaucrats. McCain-Palin 08! I am still allowed to support McCain, aren’t I?

— RightWingRowdies

“. . . blah, #%@&, blah, hate, #%@&, hate, #%@&, #%@&, hate, #%@&, blah ”

Finally: Printed proof that their IQ’s are lower than the number of letters in their favorite words.

Did anyone actually read the article?

“By the way, a quick surf of the Internet found a McCain Truth Squad in New Hampshire, formed last January, that included several public officials with prosecutorial powers, including the state attorney general.

“Obama’s national campaign manager David Plouffe said Saturday that Truth Squads simply monitor attacks and refute them.”

“Later, state communications director Debbie Mesloh issued a statement that called it “the height of absurdity” for the GOP to contend that the Obama squad planned to go to court or jail critics.”

(As an aside, please note that both sides have “Truth Squads” in numerous states, under numerous titles. McCain’s campaign has an Honest and Open Election Committee, whose Missouri members include former Sen. John Danforth and U.S. Rep. Jo Ann Emerson, and another state McCain group monitoring any Democratic jabs at Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.)

Sounds like Jouce is back peddling big time. I find it interesting that a criminal prosecutor is so worried about “libel” which is a civil matter. Just imagine what Barack Hussein Obama would be like with the entire United States Justice Dept. at his disposal. “Welcome to the Peoples Republic of China”. These prosecutor’s and sheriffs need to be recalled!

Aren’t you guys being STUPIDLY HYSTERICAL ABOUT NOTHINGS?

Th Demoratic TRUTH SQUAD HAS BEEN OPEN AND ABOVE BOARD about their activities here! It IS NOT AT ALL of the same spirit of the TRUE AND REAL voter intimidation of the infamous Republicans.

WHY WOULD ANY HONEST PERSON BE UPSET? THE ONLY UPSET ONES ARE EVIL LIARS WHO SPREAD UGLY AND HARMFUL RUMORS!

— Gene

“Jouce” ? ? ?

I am so glad there is no killings, robberies, rapes or thefts in St. Louis that needs prosecution skills these days. A few years ago when I lived in St. Louis there were a lot of crime that needed to be taken care of, apparantly all of the criminals have been put in jail.

This is the most inane thing I have heard about in a long time. Anything these two prosecutors want to do in their own name is their right but when their titles, along with the other officials including “sherrifs”, are brought into the forefront it is, as others have said, the beginning of a police state. The outstate people own’t stand for it and the people of St. Louis and the other counties where this is happening should rise up and let these public officials know they are not to stand for it either.

Les

Clearly there are those who are attempting to twist the purpose of this initiative for their own benefit. This attack is a great example of how the truth is distorted in campaigns and what we’re trying to stand up against.

- Jennifer Joyce

Sounds to me like a job for the “Truth Squad!” Perhaps some “re-education” is in order? It’s time to make some arrests eh’ comrade?

I would be interested to know where you attended law school. It wasn’t in Nuremberg was it? Even if you “weren’t planning on prosecuting people” this was still an attack of terrorism designed to silence and strip citizens of their civil rights? What’s next Jennifer? Yellow stars?

This story will get big play nextweek an will hurt Obama greatly. This is just what Stalin and Hitler did..

Oh wow! You get caught doing something so un-American and flat out illegal…something that could throw you in jail for a long time under federal statutes and you come up with this response? No, as an Obamination supporter, you and liberal trash like you have become so arrogant that you think you are above it all, hence you can get away with it. Not so. You should lose your job and be investigated by the FBI.

> THE ONLY UPSET ONES ARE EVIL LIARS WHO SPREAD UGLY AND HARMFUL RUMORS!

So D. Walker, that means you, and your plastic messiah, Barak Beelzebub Obama, are upset?

This is what I sent to Jennifer Joyce, Bob McCulloch and your Constitution - clueless TV station reporters:

Jennifer Joyce
You are a Nazi.
We have a First Amendment in this country.
You have absolutely no business intimidating or threatening anyone who runs political advertising, at any time, concerning a political issue or a political candidate.
What you are doing is wrong, on its face. It is also obvious that you are partisan, as you obviously will not subject the lies that Obama tells to the same Brown-Shirt tactics you are threatening against McCain supporters.
You are unfit for public office.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
The cure for “bad speech” is MORE SPEECH, not an Un-American, anti-First Amendment liberal nut-case like you trying to shut down debate you don’t like!
Paul Rosell
Wichita, Kansas

I just deleted three posts by “James” for using foul and obscene language.

That is NOT allowed on Political Fix. The person can be electronically barred from posting if he/she continues to violate our rules.

Sorry to all that “James” comments were on our site for several hours.

So many newbie posters - mostly vomiting the Right Wing Rowdies (RWR) message
All hyping up their fake outrage
So striking that the regular RWR’s are not posting.
Why would they miss this party, they thrive on lying, sliming and faking outrage.

Could it be our regulars RWR’s are the newbies?
It sure sounds like our regulars posting, except they’ve taken it up a notch.
Maybe storm-trooper HQ wasn’t happy with their performance and sent some reinforcements

Nice try RWR’s
The battery for your cloaking cape died.

Your slander, lies, false accusations and hyperbole of non issues still isn’t working.
Give up

Like Peggy and Mike said, “It’s over”

Let me tell you something. If you have read anything about Zimbabwe and Mugabe and how he has kicked out foreign journalists and controls the media and kills the opposition, it is time for you all to really think if this country should also be ruled by someone who espouses Black Liberation Theology. Read on: http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=5158

There is certainly enough info on the Internet to educate yourselves even if the media and the Post-Dispatch won’t.

Oh help, here comes Jennifer to take me away. Someone call me a First Amendment lawyer!

You won’t see this in the PD either: Obama’s letter threatening the NRA:
http://www.thebitchgirls.us/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/obama.pdf

Funny how Joyce didn’t prosecute the Post-Dispatch when their columnists wrote lies about Sarah Palin that had to be corrected. I guess those prosecutions just work one-way, right Ms. Joyce?

Why doesn’t Jenifer Joyce use some of her prosecutorial power to prosecute the crackheads, thugs and murderers who live in the cesspool of St Louis, another liberal district, full of welfare dependents who are so stupid, they have to have the government tell them to flee a hurricane, or tornado, or even how to wipe their *s*. Is this where the 8 niggers who are going to rape Sarah Palin live?

This is an interesting thread from another blog:

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/is-this-1984-missouri-public-officials-join-obamas-truth-squad/#comment-13882

To Crusader-
Why don’t you head back into the hills where you come from, lift up the rock under which you were born, and crawl back under, marry your cousin, and shut your racist, no-business, born insecure, rat-soup eating mouth.

Where in the world did all the fascists come from? STL- I think you might be on to something. Something rotten on this blog and it stinks of republican operatives. I’m trying so hard not to use foul words for them… tempted to but holding back because it’s Sunday.

get a clue it is payback time

white people suppressed the blacks horribly for a long time

and now the blacks are gaining political power and whites will suffer

sad

I am so disgusted by this, and disappointed. I sent Joyce, McCulloch, our state senator Claire and also our sheriff’s dept in Boone County an email last night telling them if they were involved in this type of police (gestapo) tactics, that they should be investigated. Now they will probably try to shut me up too.Obama says he is a different kind of politician, yes that is for sure, the worst kind. If you are so insecure, and can’t stand the heat of the campaign without trying to shut people up, you must have something to hide. Same tactics he used in Chicago to move up. Freddoso’s book is exactly right about Obama. Now we know who he really is.

> Where in the world did all the fascists come from?

Your pals are trying to use the threat of prosecution to stifle political dissent, and you have the nerve to call somebody else a fascist?

> get a clue it is payback time
> white people suppressed the blacks horribly for a long time
> and now the blacks are gaining political power and whites will suffer

For more on those who advocate this, check out this blog:

http://ghettobraggingrights.wordpress.com/

It’s truly amazing.

I have yet to hear one foul mouthed post from an Obama supporter. But I have now read at least 8 where a McCain supporter has used foul and offensive language.

You are just mad that Obama has taken a serious lead.

These out of towners will not haunt this blog after next week when all of this proves to be yet another ineffectual attempt to change the prevailing messages about the campaigns. These butt-inskies are not the story, no matter how much they wish it to be so. The story is that some elected and appointed officials are supporting Senator Obama, which may mean using their voices to come to his aid when McCain-Palin come after him with lies. Fact is, we should have had more (even one?) truth squads operating when Kerry got swiftboated in 2004. You have to speak truth to power, and the real effective truth messengers are those with some power of their own. I think truthfulness and a very healthy respect - even advocacy - for the truth are admirable qualities for prosecutors and law enforcement officials. I am glad to see some of our finest standing up for the truth.

So many Right Wing Rowdie (RWR) wackos hurling unfounded accusations like children throwing rocks.
o An influx of new handles.
o Most likely out of town’ers helping our local RWR’s.

o Nothing sticks, the rocks just bounce off because they have no basis of fact.
o Phony outrage, phony posts, phony posters
Zero impact

o The Right Wing Rowdie Groundhog Day
For Day = Today to 5Nov2008

- Get new rocks

- Throw rocks

- See rocks bounce off

- Bang head on ground

Next Day

Cheer President Elect Obama

It is totally inappropriate for Jennifer Joyce and Bob McCulloch to be on a political committee for Obama. Is this Joyce’s and McCulloch’s way of endorsing the voter fraud which ACORN has engaged in and likely will continue to engage in?
Jerry M.

Reporter: Obama ‘truth squad’ story got twisted

http://tinyurl.com/47pge7

Gov Blunt used the official state website funded by taxpayer money to smear Sen Obama.

Frank Donatelli, deputy chairman of the Republican National Committee:

http://tinyurl.com/4anoxc

“In a telephone interview with the News-Leader, Donatelli admitted the Democratic prosecutors “haven’t specifically said” they would use their prosecutorial powers on Obama’s behalf.”"

The individuals only planned to campaign for Obama on their own time.

“By the way, a quick surf of the Internet found a McCain Truth Squad in New Hampshire, formed last January, that included several public officials with prosecutorial powers, including the state attorney general.”"

http://tinyurl.com/4wfdlk

John Mills updated his story. The vultures can stop circling now. My guess is none of the right-wing blogs will bother to admit their over-reaction.

http://www.kmov.com/localnews/stories/kmov_election_092808_truthsquad.bec69e89.html

“They plan to respond immediately to any misleading advertisements and statements that might violate Missouri ethics laws.” That quote is from John Mills’ story, tho not a direct quote in the story, so must be a paraphrase. My comments: if that’s not a threat of prosecution, I dont know what is. Second, not sure whether Missouri Ethics Commission has authority over federal campaigns; if there’s a federal law, it probably preempts; if not federal law in point, still wonder whether they have authority over federal elections in this respect; might have to do with what ethics law says. And finally, dont think prosecutors can directly prosecute without first a finding by Ethics Commission that there’s been a violation. Conclusion, if that quote is paraphrase of what Joyce or McCullough said, it seems inappropriate on several levels and meant to intimidate. Now if they have authority to prosecute, then maybe it’s appropriate, but they’re not going to prosecute for nuance or over-simplification. And if they’re just there to tell the truth, reference to Ethics Law inappropriate. Cant have it both ways. I’d like to see them get off the committee. Key question: lies dont come any bolder than “thanks but no thanks”; so if they arent going to indict Sarah Palin, who and what do they intend to invite. Ladies, gentlemen, I want us to win, too, but you guys need to get back to your day jobs.
Bill “Not Your Usual Democrat” Haas.

How Obama really feels about free speech.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_woolner&sid=aPpNDefWKbi4

To Jennifer Joyce: The hell with your pathetic response. Now we are hearing a reporter say the story has been twisted. I don’t think so. Or maybe you didn’t think you would be posted all over You Tube. Your job is NOT to get truth to anyone unless it is a criminal trial. CAN YOU SAY “VIOLATION OF CIVIL RIGHTS OVER COLOR OF LAW”? Your cronies in other states are now doing what you are doing only to be called on the carpet. You are either a Nazi or a Stalinst…or both. The backlash is going to be huge. No American will ever stand for this unless they are socialists like you. Get the truth out? Who the hell appointed you gatekeeper? No one.

— A CENTRIST
“How Obama really feels about free speech.’

and this means something?
It’s and editorial, somebody’s opinion.
No facts, just opinion
No credibility

Do something constructive with your time.
Use you energy for something other than making up lies and posting phony outrage

“It’s over”

So, Ms. Joyce, if you really only care about making sure the candidates aren’t libeling/slandering each other, why did you join a group called the “Barack Obama Truth Squad” instead of just the “Truth Squad”? If you really care about ethics, you should resign at once.

I’m sure Ms. Joyce has enormous respect for the 1st Amendment as does Mr. McCullough WHEN IT IS ONE OF THEIR OWN. Anyone else, that is another story.

What I see in her response is a rat scurrying around when the lights are turned on. Not a very pretty picture!

I suggest Ms. Joyce go back and read some of Alexander Solzhenitsyn’s work such as “One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich” or “The Gulag Archipeligo”. Then she could see the real effect of Stalinist policies.

Jennifer: if you were not caught in something underhanded, why did your governor issue a very public rebuff. “Nuclear,” one commentator called it. Hmmmm

STL and D. Walker are neck and neck racing for today’s I HEART Eric Mink.

STL has a slight lead.

===

How do we know she’s lying?

Her lips are moving.

Another typical scum-bucket liberal lawyer, trying to take away the rights of ordinary folks.

Someone should let the democrats no that this is not the primary where they got away with silencing the voters’ voices and democracy! NO Way, NO How, NOJoe, NObama, McCain/Palin 08 in the spirit of 18 million+ cracks in that glass ceiling!

The reason you have angry non-locals showing up here is because THE ENTIRE NATION IS NOW WATCHING YOU and what is being called Obama’s Missouri Goon Squad. Aren’t you proud? Hurry up and do your part to turn this nation into a Third-world police state, that will cure our immigration problem real fast. You Dems THINK you’re electing and defending an American Mandela, but Obama is proving more to be the next Mugabe. Stop now and regain your sanity and principles.

“My sole purpose in participating in this initiative is about getting truthful information to the voters.” Lady, it is not your job to get truthful information to the voters. It is wrong that you should wake up tomorrow with your job. Gov Blunt’s statement may be setting you up for criminal charges of violating civil rights. Good!

> get a clue it is payback time
> white people suppressed the blacks horribly for a long time
> and now the blacks are gaining political power and whites will suffer

For more on those who advocate this, check out this blog:

http://ghettobraggingrights.wordpress.com/

It’s truly amazing.

GHETTO BRAGGING RIGHTS FOREVER!

At times like this when tyrants attack the rights provided by the first ammendment, the importance and the founder’s rationale for the second ammendment becomes crystal clear.

I doubt it is any accident that it is preceded only by the first ammendment.

“18 million+ cracks in that glass ceiling!” Put there by Hillary Clinton. Sarah Palin is no Hillary Clinton.

YOu right winders are sure freaked out by the truth squad. So, if your people are being truthful, then you have nothing to fear.

why are you protecting only Obama? not Palin whos been slandered worse than O’Brian, um I mean Obama, it is 2008 and not 1984 after all, right?

Palin’s not being slandered, she’s being thrown under the bus by consevatives like the WSJ, Kathleen Parker (whose column calling for Palin to quit was NOT run in the Lee Publications gonna-endose-John-BushMcCain Post-Dispatch!)and Sen. Hagel(ranking GOP member of the US Senate Foregn Relations Committee).

Palin’s a joke and McCain’s STILL too ignorant to be President!

http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/08/04/15-reasons-john-mccain-is-too-ignorant-to-be-president/

If campaign lies were a crime, Palin-McCain would do life without parole!

http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/09/17/john-mccain-and-sarah-palin-ongoing-campaign-of-lies/

If political lies were a crime, Palin-McCain would do life without parole!

http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/09/17/john-mccain-and-sarah-palin-ongoing-campaign-of-lies/

just out of curiosity … if Obama becomes President and DOESN’T lower taxes for 90% of Americans; or if Americans who make under $250,000 actually pay more taxes, from inheritance taxes, to gasoline taxes or any other taxes, will prosecutors then go after the candidate? Seems only fair.

I’m just not buying what Jennifer and her fellow thugs are selling. If this is about truth and justice, where is the concern about the flagrant lies on the part of the Obama campaign? What about the hideous and depraved smears against Sarah Palin? These cretins in MO need to get a clue.

Meanwhile I’m enjoying donating to the NRA and American Issues Project!

Tim Hogan’s links to dangerousintersection.org is fine if you first keep in mind that it is self-avowed left of center propaganda. It uses Huffingtonpost as a SOURCE OF INFORMATION! Good Grief! I’m a poster on Huffington and the stuff I see there boggles my mind.

If people want FACTS as opposed to FICTION or LIES, you have to go to analysts such as:
politifact.com http://www.politifact.com/
the fact checker http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/
http://www.factcheck.org/

The type of fact checking these sites do is clearly spelled out, emphasizing primary sources, direct contacts with officials or people who would know … like the original person who said it, etc.

The ability to see the difference between a site like Tim Hogan’s link and these fact checkers is critical to help people differentiate fact from opinion.

Please, please use these sites. You’ll soon see that McCain and Obama are tit for tat when it comes to distortion. And Hillary started it all with Media Matters. Sorry, but lying isn’t a Republican thing. And Obama ain’t for changing none of it!!

I just want to point out something about D Walker types posting here.

“Aren’t you guys being STUPIDLY HYSTERICAL ABOUT NOTHINGS?
Th Demoratic TRUTH SQUAD HAS BEEN OPEN AND ABOVE BOARD about their activities here! It IS NOT AT ALL of the same spirit of the TRUE AND REAL voter intimidation of the infamous Republicans.
— D. Walker
9:11 am September 28th, 2008″

The language mechanics here might be a tip off that these are not locals or Americans posting. It would be interesting to have this site do a study of the IP addresses of posters like D.Walker and find out where in the world they are coming from and who their Internet Service Provider is.

I like topix.net/forum for instance because they include that information for each poster. You see me as posting from San Diego, CA. But at least you know where I’m coming from even if I never gave that information. No one can hide that they are from Toronto which would be a big source for these pro-Obama comments or even as far as Kenya which is rumored to be another big site for pro-Obama posters. I’ve heard Obama has major campaign funds going into saturating sites like this with disinformation and smears. These people usually use bully tactics to intimidate. You can see the words “evil” and “stupid” in the post above. Intelligent people just give the facts, never mind all the character defamation.

I’ve noticed that my local papers have been infiltrated. All the local posters know each other. We use lots of local references and have been around the town a time or two. But when an article comes up about McCain, for instance, suddenly the strangest new names come up and the language becomes downright offensive. I’ve seen whole pages of comments without a single name I recognize, all screaming unbelievable garbage about McCain.

Watch for it. Quite interesting to see phenomena like this occurring. I’ve been using the internet and logging in many sites since 1995 and what’s happening is creepy.

McCain’s not the source of this. This is different. And my logical, intelligent friends who are voting for Obama need to explain it to me.

Regardless, why hasn’t this been in the paper? We know the Post has a left wing editorial position, but they are up front about that. I can live with someone who is honest about it. But, for the news dept. not to even report the story, even if they don’t believe it, is irresponsible and shows a slant. The fact that it has become a National story requires that it be covered, even if your goal is to discredit it. Almost an entire week has gone by and nothing. Journalism as we know it is dead. Our local paper ingores a story that is now being reported by the MSM and is featured on most of the National news blogs is amazing. This will be another embaressing chapter in St. Louis politics this week as the National media visit St. Louis.

This is nothing short of stunning. I think that every single prosecution, indictment and arrest that the Circuit Attorneys office and the Sheriff’s dept. were involved in since Obama became the presumptive nominee should be investigated by the Justice Dept. for political motivations

— Mary F.
” But when an article comes up about McCain, . . and the language becomes downright offensive. ”

Generalizations are not credible, links can be - give us some links

Here’s an example from this very forum
Scroll back up to the post by
— Jo Mannies @ 12:28 pm September 28th, 2008
“I just deleted three posts by “James” for using foul and obscene language. . . “Sorry to all that “James” comments were on our site for several hours.”

Fellow posters

o “James” was one of about 35 1st time posters yesterday, all of whom spouted the same rhetoric and phony outrage of the Right Wing Rowdies(RWR) - A band of posters that increase the noise-to-signal ratio in an effort to drown out and discourage legitimate posters on this board by repetition of derogatory unsubstantiated accusations over and over.

This is commonly known as propaganda.

o James apparently is the poster child of the RWR’s as he managed to use virtually all 4-letter English words known to mankind in his 3 posts. I saw his posts before — Jo Mannies removed them.

Since when is it appropriate for law enforcement to use their position to work for a political campaign?
Will Joyce ‘truth squad’ for McCain, seeing as how even the NYTimes admits that Obama is running untruthful and misleading ads on McCain?
The brownshirts are here people.

And where is Jay Nixon, the attorney general, running for governor, on this matter? Does he have an opinion, or is he also on the truth squad? I guess he will only work for you if you pledge your allegiance to the democrat ideology of crushing dissent.

I am wondering if Joyce is also going to arrest PD’s Deb Peterson and the wife of VP of the Science Center Amy Gwin for the false statements she made in collaboration with Peterson about Gov. Palin under Ethics Violiations for character assasination. I will call Joyce’s office today to find out.

Can you imagine what Eric Mink of the PD would have done if this was Catherine Hanaway abusing the power of her office? OMG!

It’s quite amusing that Comrade Jennifer talks about “this attack” and how it “distorts the truth”, while her beloved Führer, king Barrack the First of Eurabia, lies whenever he opens his mouth (just like his Angry Wife Unit and his fellows in the NSPA, the National Socialist Party of America, formerly known as “the Democrats”.) Reminds me of Little Adolf. So, Comrade Jennifer, what’s your future job going to be? Blockwart at the White House? Reichsführer of the Thought Police? Or are you going to take care of the transports to the re-education camps?

She’s a lawyer, and just like any lawyer she wouldn’t know what the truth is even if it would sneak up behind her and bite her in the butt. Ironically, Obama is also a lawyer.

Lawyers are bad enough, but lawyers turning politicians should be banned. And lawyers joining “truth squads” in order to help lawyers who turned politicians should be shot to the moon.

— Mary F.
6:03 am September 29th, 2008
“You see me as posting from San Diego, CA.’

Really?
How do I do that?
Educate me?

Hmm, you posted at 6:03am cdt
That’s 4:03 am in San Diego, CA
I’m impressed. You get up really early to start your day job - posting for the slime wing of the Republican party.

How about this for the truth:
Obama is a sleezy, Marxist political hack. Who has only made into office because of Brown Shirts like Jennifer Joyce and Bob McCulloch.

And don’t lie about what Obama’s intentions are. He intends to RAISE taxes, and destroy the american family.

p.s. Obama is a rasist and a sexist, who probably has homosexual tendencies, and has been know to hang out with traitors and terrorists.
Call me a lier.

I have a question for the staff at the Post Disgrace, if someone were to repeat the line originated by democrats that Obama is really a muslim (especially since he was registered in school as a muslim), will the PD willingly turn over that information to the prosecutor or will they do what the AP did with the Secret Service investigating the hacking of Governor Palin’s email, tell them to pound sand?

Its a question that needs to be answered.

— Jim
“How about this for the truth: . . ‘

or this

— Mary F.

“The language mechanics here might be a tip off that these are not locals or Americans posting. . . But when an article comes up about McCain, for instance, suddenly the strangest new names come up . . ”

o I’m flattered.
o The theme of 3 of my posts from yesterday are the inspiration for your post.
http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/political-fix/political-fix/2008/09/mccain-obama-battle-over-missouri-truth-squad/all-comments/#comments
— STL 1:05 am September 28th, 2008
“So many 1st timers trying to start a fire . . .”
— STL 9:45 am September 28th, 2008
“Ok, I get. . The Right Wing Rowdies (RWR) are now posing as Obama supporters. . ”
— STL 12:31 pm September 28th, 2008
“So many newbie posters - mostly vomiting the Right Wing Rowdies (RWR) message . . striking that the regular RWR’s are not posting. Why would they miss this party, . . Could it be our regulars RWR’s are the newbies? . . ”

o Except you’re most likely a paid poster - paid to post the slime you and your fellow posters vomit, consume and regurgitate before posting.
o I searched through about 60 forums from the last 30 days of posting at these PD political forums
o Surprise, surprise - You didn’t even post once.

— Mary F. - whoever you really are, and where ever you really are
o you - yourself are one of your “strangest new names” a new name here posting solely for profit by executing your orders from the slime wing of the Republican Party

Whow — Jim
o you’re marching in lockstep with them.

Welcome to the Obama era. Why are we questioning his tactics? He is the Messiah, the one, he is above judgement and cannot be wrong!!

God, please save our Country from this man.

Quis custodiet ispos custodes

If it were Mo lawmakers saying the same thing in reference to McCain I would feel the same. Since when do law enforcement officers get to tell me how i can voice my oppions and decide whether or not they are truths, half-truths or lies. Furthermore, law enforcement officers are going to remind potential voters that Obama is a Christian? Let me tell you something, a true Christian can recognize a true Christian troughs his through his action, deeds and words, and believe me I have not seen this in Obama nor the prosecutors of Mo.

No terrorist in the world is more dangerous to American sovereignty than a liberal with a law degree. Al-Qaeda could never do 100th the damage to America that the ACLU hasn’t already done to us. Why are we fighting wars in the middle east when the citizens on our own coasts are so hell-bent on wreaking havoc. I think I heard George Orwell just registered republican from his grave last week.

Who is this person’s supervisor?

It seems to me that Ms. Joyce should spend more time prosecuting crimes rather than representing Senator Obama.

Isn’t her job to represent the people of St. Louis rather than a political party?

Is she going to prosecute people who spread lies about Senator McCain and Governor Palin?

Come on folks this is campaign scare tactics, matt blunt is quoted as saying this not any of the people involved note Jennifer Joyces personel comments “This has never been or never will be about prosecuting people. Clearly there are those who are attempting to twist the purpose of this initiative for their own benefit. This attack is a great example of how the truth is distorted in campaigns and what we’re trying to stand up against.”

Some of you just might not be smart enough to vote,,,,

Shame on you lady. Your ideology has gotten in the way of the democratic principles that undergird it in the first place.

Oddly enough, we still don’t know exactly who it was that called from the BHO camapaign staff, who they actually talked with, the exact conversation that took place, when it occured or who in the city and county governments authorized the prosecutors to make their public pronouncements.

I’m not surprised by all the personal attacks from the BHO supporters. The prosecutors conduct and participation is despicable. This speaks volumes about the future of Democratic politics and the suppression of dissent in American political discourse. The DNC must be reading the Hugo Chavez play book.

I’m surprised that BHO hasn’t unleashed his pet community ‘activist’ program to instigate demonstrations against Senator McCain and Governor Palin ahead of the upcoming debate here in St. Louis.

Utilizing law enforcement to intimidate and suppress political dissent is just plain wrong. I did watch the video and I did hear the pronouncements.

— Guanipa
“Shame on you lady. Your ideology has gotten in the way of the democratic principles that undergird it in the first place.’

My hunch is that this is an example of a post from the radical right masturading as a post from the left.
Sneaky way to insert handle of somebody foreign that sounds like they are supporting Obama.

No desire to engage in a real exchange of ideas
Just wants to insert toxic ideas in a subtle way.

Won’t work, but they can keep beating their heads on the ground in frustration, maybe they’ll finally brain themselves.

jenny sweetie is such a liar. her boy obama is a fake a liar and a thug also. she and all the others like her need to be removed from office. we understand they are trying to intimidate people. don’t vote obama your a racist, tell the truth they will confront you. sad sad sad

To The Moderator

RULES OF THE ROAD
” So we’re asking for your help. In the spirit of that free exchange of ideas, keep the conversation clean and respectful. If you see something objectionable, please send us an e-mail.”

I strongly recommend the Post Dispatch review the content of all these online forums.
I am an experienced poster here to recognize the few “regular” posters style.

During the last several days the tone and style of the overwhelming number of posts has changed dramatically especially in this forum and those I’ve to below.

I believe these forums have been infiltrated by paid posters with no desire to allow any exchange of ideas, rather a desire only to disrupt and post their toxic material in such volume as to discourage legitimate posters from even trying to participate.

These many new posters provide content I interpret as coming from the extreme right. Their tactics also include using handles with unusual sounding names in posts supporting Obama. So they post toxic extreme right material and some that sound left but include well known code words the extreme right uses to slime their opponents.

A setup post on their intent was made by — Mary F. at 6:03 am September 29th, 2008 in this forum. It’s pretty easy to spot their posts as they rarely engage with any other posters on the board.

Moderator, review the contents of this board and consider if this forum has been high jacked by a band of internet thugs supporting a national interest.

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/political-fix/political-fix/2008/09/mccain-obama-battle-over-missouri-truth-squad/all-comments/#comments

“I strongly recommend the Post Dispatch review the content of all these online forums.
I am an experienced poster here to recognize the few “regular” posters style.”

What the holy hell are you talking about? Are you the Blog Cop now? You suffer from delusions of grandeur.

“During the last several days the tone and style of the overwhelming number of posts has changed dramatically especially in this forum and those I’ve to below.”

English as a second language?

“I believe these forums have been infiltrated by paid posters with no desire to allow any exchange of ideas, rather a desire only to disrupt and post their toxic material in such volume as to discourage legitimate posters from even trying to participate.”

I believe you are an idiot, and I have as much proof as you do that the board is infiltrated by paid posters.

“These many new posters provide content I interpret as coming from the extreme right. Their tactics also include using handles with unusual sounding names in posts supporting Obama. So they post toxic extreme right material and some that sound left but include well known code words the extreme right uses to slime their opponents.”

Good work detective. How is it you can spot a phony moonbat so easily, but probably have never met a real conservative? Any minute now I know your going to give us this list of “well known code words”

“It’s pretty easy to spot their posts as they rarely engage with any other posters on the board.”

Just because some posters dont wish to participate in your moonbat circle jerk, doesnt mean they dont want to engage in discussion.

“Moderator, review the contents of this board and consider if this forum has been high jacked by a band of internet thugs supporting a national interest.”

Why dont you just send a list to Jennife Joyce, she can sort it out and prosecute the offenders. Its not like we have any other crimes in St Louis to deal with.

Wow, STL, you have about 10 posts questioning the validity of the other posters but none defending the City Prosecutor from abusing her powers.

Hmmmmmm. Is the pot calling the kettle black? Fess up, you’re on Obama’s payroll.

PS. If you aren’t, you should be, as far up his backside your nose is.

I would like to know just what “truth” was distorted. You spoke very clearly to us and we are not stupid. You might have gotten away with this strategy had you had included all presidential candidates in your great quest to get truthful information to the voters. Are you nuts? Didn’t you think for just a moment that this might just be against the rules, even in your job? Are there no Democrats who find it strange that there are so many areas of Obama’s life that have to be defended, areas that won’t go away because no proof has been given to the contrary? Personally, I’m still having trouble with his name, let alone what it implies. I have spent hours researching, trying to find someone, somewhere, some website, which gives me the proof I need to lay my questions to rest. There is no information. This man has taken this country to a depth so low that I’m afraid it will take years to mend. I live in Memphis, TN, and I can tell you we have a serious racial problem here. Obama is not helping. I just hope that if something awful happens to the man, it is not done in this city. MLK will haunt us forever.

Here is some truth for you. Check out Gaddafi’s speech on June 11, 2008. Gaddafi proclaims terrorist countries have contributed to Obaba’s campaign. He also calls Obama a Muslim brother. He says all the people of the Arab and Islamic nations applaud Obama. Is this the kind of leader we really want for our country. Obama is a smooth talker when it comes to giving a speech. He could convince most Americans that you and him were twins separated at birth. But talk is cheap. Our country is in trouble. America better wake up!

Well said, Scott H. in Florida!

— Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum
“What the holy hell are you talking about? Are you the Blog Cop now? You suffer from delusions of grandeur.’

o Nice try but it won’t sell. Besides, I’m the second one to mention it, as I cited in my post to the moderator, a fact you conveniently ignored. The first was — Mary F. at 6:03 am September 29th, 2008.
o Where’s your outrage about the post by Mary F. Scroll up to read it.

o I posted several times about my suspicions, Scroll up to see those. Seeing no change in behavior, I reread the Rules of the Road. I did not see a way to contact the moderator off line so posted to get the moderators attention. I stated my suspicions and pointed out what I felt was the evidence. I suggested the moderator review the posts. It’s up to the moderator to take whatever action is deemed appropriate, I’m just a casual observer.

“I believe you are an idiot, and I have as much proof as you do that the board is infiltrated by paid posters.”
o Actually I expect you have more proof than me that the board has been infiltrated. Paid or volunteers, doesn’t really make any difference because the intent is the same - disrupt attempts to exchange via legitimate posting by flooding the forum with vile, viscous posts filled with outright and subtle accusations and lies. Reduce or stamp out the flow of info that counters the McCain campaign’s misconceptions and lies about Obama.

Good work detective. How is it you can spot a phony moonbat so easily, but probably have never met a real conservative? Any minute now I know your going to give us this list of “well known code words”
o Kind of a rough way to congratulate me but I accept your pat on the back.
o As for conservative my best friend is a conservative, pretty dug in and civil in our political discussions.
o Don’t be coy, you know the code words like a pro.

“Just because some posters dont wish to participate in your moonbat circle jerk, doesnt mean they dont want to engage in discussion.”
o Not just some but the overwhelming majority of the newbies. In addition, there’s also posting with references to other posters that did not post on this forum.
o Kinda fishy - you know, quacks like a duck - Quack.

-> I thought I knew all the political terms but this new one, circle jerk, has me stumped.
-> Please tell me how it relates to your political life.
-> Then tell me how it relates to your social life

“Why dont you just send a list to Jennife Joyce, she can sort it out and prosecute the offenders. Its not like we have any other crimes in St Louis to deal with.”
o I’ll leave that to you. Perhaps you can get her to count it as your community service for the week.
o More false outrage - you know, it’s a duck.

- if it looks like a duck
- and quacks like a duck
- then it’s a duck
I’m confident I know what’s happening.

“Actually I expect you have more proof than me”

My statement was I have more proof you are an idiot than you do the board has been infiltrated, thanks for confirming I was right, you are an idiot.

“Paid or volunteers, doesn’t really make any difference because the intent is the same - disrupt attempts to exchange via legitimate posting by flooding the forum with vile, viscous posts filled with outright and subtle accusations and lies. ”

You must be talking about the Obama campaign sending out alerts telling supporters to flood the phone lines of WGN radio in Chicago when authors writing investigative books about Obama are on. Or the Obama campaign lawyers threatening the broadcast licenses of stations who run ads Obama doesnt like.

McCain Supporters

Pep Talk

o I know it must be disheartening to see so much daylight between candidates in the polls.

o It must have been particularly frustrating last week when McCain tried a power play on the debates, then blinked and participated. Just the spine I want in my #1 sitting across the table from Vladimir Putin - a #1 that blinks over showing up for a debate.

o Then there’s debate#1, where Obama took McCain to school despite the 100 minute McCain snub. Oh, that’s another thing. I want a #1 that looks right into the bad guys eyes, rather than somebody that doesn’t even have the backbone to look at a United States Senator during a 100 minute debate.

— Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum
“My statement was I have more proof you are an idiot than you do the board has been infiltrated”

o Just for grins, here’s the quote of your statement.
“I believe you are an idiot, and I have as much proof as you do that the board is infiltrated by paid posters.”
o I diagrammed the sentence and sure enough, you were referring to the board and infiltration.
o Perhaps you should consider an English refresher course with section that concentrates on punctuation and sentence structure.

“Obama campaign sending out alerts telling supporters to flood the phone lines of WGN radio in Chicago when authors writing investigative books about Obama are on. Or the Obama campaign lawyers threatening the broadcast licenses of stations who run ads Obama doesnt like.”
o I don’t know about Chicago, but I do know about truth. When somebody publishes lies about you, you have the right to defend yourself. Or does that only apply for Republicans?
o If it is true, then it’s not proper behavior. Give me a credible link to the Obama campaign’s alert? Without a credible link you’re just posting another false innuendo.

— Amazedbythelunacy
“Fess up, you’re on Obama’s payroll. PS. If you aren’t, you should be, as far up his backside your nose is.”

If this foolishness about a nose is supposed to hurt my feelings in some way I assure you it does not.

as for me
o I’m 3 letters here.
o In real life I’m a citizen posting for myself, solo, without any formal affiliation to either candidate and without any communications with either candidate, their organization or their party.
o I started exploring these PD forums after Republicans nominated their VP and steam started coming out of my ears.
o Readers have no way to verify my bio but I assure you it’s the truth.

” If it is true, then it’s not proper behavior. Give me a credible link to the Obama campaign’s alert? Without a credible link you’re just posting another false innuendo.” ~STL

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-obama-mediasep17,0,4056844,print.story

http://blogs . kansascity. com/tvbarn/2008/09/the-myth-of-swi.html

http://online . wsj . com/article/SB122212856075765367.html

http:// wgnradio . com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=44075&Itemid=467

===

STL, Just giving you a dose of your medicine. You seem to be practicing the same tactics as the phony “truth squad.” Just because you don’t like what the folks are typing, you question their validity. Many, many people choose to question the use of prosecutors in a clear attempt to stifle speech and you can’t counter their posts, but you sure can accuse them of being paid assassins. Maybe you should be a little more tolerant to the rights of others to speak their minds.

So fine, talk amongst yourselves. Blah, Blah.

The real way to stomp on these fascist obamabots is to go after them directly and not ever let these traitors to American values walk away or let the issue fade in any of its manifestations, particularly the use of public office and authority to “thug” or intimidate anybody. A subtext of police authority is state and police “discretion” making your life uncomfortable. Everybody knows a story of this, so the threat is plausible. An ethical DA would never get involved in overt political activity on one side of an election. This is really unprecedented in my experience.

How any Jew can vote for a politican who persistantly tries to silence dissent using proxy thug squads (e.g. makes implicit threats against many TV and radio stations) is beyond me. It reeks of 1932 in Germany.

I wouldn’t be here if my grandmother hadn’t gotten the hell out of Poland, but we Americans are not a minority among a hate filled majority. This is really the far left, public employees and academics, all of whom are already on the public teat and want more of everything. But this is our country…we just can’t run away from these bums. This fight needs to be taken to them, enemies of our treasured freedoms, and now is the time. For starters, stop taking to people who agree with you. Instead, write, complain, write some more…demand action on and against these brownshirts. Write the Missouri Attorney General and write the US Department of Justice. I did, it didn’t take long. What the hell are you waiting for?

Velcome to ze New Amerika! Vhere Obama vill arrest you for not tinkink ze correct vay! Heil Obama!

Fascist thugs. That’s all they are. No better than the brown shirts of Mussolini and Hitler.

You are a JUDGE????? Dot you think there is a slight bit of conflict of interest?

Heaven forbid if I ever ended up in your court! Do you think I would get a fair trial? I highly doubt it!

Question..

Who gets to define what the “truth” is?

Example. Your statement above is in no way reflective of your statements on the news. Which statemet is the truth? Do you get to make your own laws too?

Jen,
Unbelievably pathetic. I guess now you’ll have “law enforcement” go after everyone that condemns your communistic tactics. The left is all about free speech, unless it’s not their view. Both sides distort the truth, and the chosen one is no different, which is pretty funny…there is no change with him, its the same old class warfare democratic run. With such a pathetic president, how could it even be close?

If I recall correctly there is a law that states that anybody who under the “color” of law denies someone their constitutional rights will be fined $10,000 and/or 10yrs in jail.

Still wish to continue your course of action? It works both ways you know.

Here’s a synopsis of some of the different cases against ACORN, just in this election season alone. Are you starting to understand what is going on here, folks? These are not isolated incidents. Now as you read of these incidents remember, please, that during Obama’s days as a community organizer he was deeply involved with ACORN. That ought to set of some alarm bells with the media … ought to, but it won’t.
Washington
July 26, 2007,Seattle Times
Felony charges filed against 7 in state’s biggest case of voter-registration fraud. The defendants, who were paid employees and supervisors of ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now

Michigan
September 14, 2008, Detroit Free Press
Several municipal clerks across the state are reporting fraudulent and duplicate voter registration applications, most of them from a nationwide community activist group working to help low- and moderate-income families.The majority of the problem applications are coming from the group ACORN, Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now …

Florida
Oct. 13, 2007, PRNewswire
A Florida state attorney is investigating thousands of potentially fraudulent voter registrations associated with the leading organizer of Florida’s Amendment 5 ballot initiative. But this is just the tip of an iceberg of illegalities, fraud and contradictions connected to the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) … Former ACORN Miami-Dade field director Mac Stuart has declared an intent to sue ACORN and has made charges of rampant voter fraud operations. Stuart was employed and specifically tasked by ACORN to generate 103,000 new voter registrations from Dade County. He reports that ACORN threw out Republican registrations while paying for Democratic ones. Stuart also charges that ACORN targeted ex-cons and that he personally set up registration tables outside the Miami police department and Dade County jail.

New Mexico
Sept. 18, 2008, Judicial Watch Blog
This week officials in New Mexico’s most populous county (Bernalillo) notified federal authorities that more than 1,000 fraudulent voter registration cards were submitted to the clerk’s office. ACORN, which pays workers for each registration, is the prime suspect since it has handled thousands of new voter registrations in New Mexico since January. County workers subsequently discovered that at least 1,100 new registrations list Social Security numbers for people already in the county’s database of registered voters, names of registered voters with different birth dates and addresses that don’t exist.

Wisconsin
Aug. 6, 2008, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
Criminal investigations could be launched against at least six voter registration workers who tried to add dead, imprisoned or imaginary people to the voter rolls, according to the Milwaukee Election Commission and the organization that employed them. “One woman called us to complain because her husband has been dead for 10 years and a voter registration was submitted,” Edman said. In about 12 cases, deputy registrars paid by ACORN were “making people up or registering people that were still in prison,” said Carolyn Castore, ACORN’s state political director. And in other cases, workers used the same address for numerous voters or used driver’s license numbers that did not fit the voters’ birth dates, Edman said. But most of the fraud involved submitting duplicate cards for voters who were already registered, and forging the voters’ signatures, Castore said.

Ohio
August 27, 2008, The Plain Dealer
A national organization that conducts voter registration drives for low-income people has curtailed its push in Cuyahoga County after the Board of Elections accused its workers of submitting fraudulent registration cards. Board employees said ACORN workers often handed in the same name on a number of voter registration cards, but showing that person living at different addresses. Other times, cards had the same name listed, but a different date of birth. Still another sign of possible fraud showed a number of people living at an address that turned out to be a restaurant. ACORN has submitted about 75,000 voter registration cards to the Cuyahoga board this year.

Pennsylvania
Sept. 18, 2008, The Bulletin: Philadelphia’s Family Newspaper
A community organization, with longstanding ties to Barack Obama, has, according to numerous reports, repeatedly run afoul of voter registration laws both locally and nationally. Philadelphia election officials recently accused ACORN, of filing multiple fraudulent voter registrations during the 2008 Pennsylvania primary. The case has been referred to the U.S. Attorney’s office, according to Philadelphia Deputy Election Commissioner Fred Voight. Delaware County election officials have made similar allegations against the group, and criminal indictments are pending. This past July 24, Dauphin County detectives offered a $2,000 reward for information about the whereabouts of Luis R. Torres-Serrano, an ACORN worker, who was accused of submitting more than 100 fraudulent voter registrations.
Nevada
July 7,2008, Las Vegas Review Journal
ACORN, which stands for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, claims to have collected 60,000 new voter registrations in Clark County since February … Lomax said while he supports the goal of getting more people registered to vote, he sees rampant fraud in the 2,000 to 3,000 registrations ACORN turns in every week.

First though I don’t live in MO, I do hope each and every voter with some self-respect gets the name of these people involved with this travesty burned into their brain on election day. Vote these people out! This isn’t a rep vs dem thing…this is a crisis of conscience for the citizens of this state and ultimately this country. No doubt that Obama’s “truth” gang would expand its reach to every state should he become president. You have something negative to say about him? Why perhaps we should talk to your supervisor at work or maybe your taxes need to be audited. I love the state of MO because I know there are citizens there and throughout the nation who will reject this kind of surrender to fear and intimidation from those elected officials who abuse their authority. Stand up and send a message to these people that you will not live in fear of making your voice heard so that Obama’s henchmen can sleep better at night.

Joyce, If you really wanted to be a crusader of truth, you would have worked for the Obama/McCain Truth Squad.
Your intentions were not honorable. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Typical of the Left. Always interested in violating the 1st amendment right of those who disagree with them. The problem is that anything the Obama team would say would be judged as gospel according to Reverend Wright, and anything the McCain team would say would qualify as ‘a lie, or misleading.

How do these people achieve positions of power?

I can’t believe that prosecutors are actually drinking the kool-aid too. I guess they’ll have to pry my handgun and bible from my hands when they arrest me for speaking out against Nobama.

So Jennifer, care to really clarify your position? We didn’t twist it, we took it as face value. Quit trying to not mean what you said. You said it…own it….

So I’m sure Ms. Joyce will be giving equal time to prosecuting Obama ads that twist the truth beyond recognition as well. Yes? I think not. This is just another example of liberals preaching tolerance as long as you think like they do.

Joyce and Mcculloch are using public funds to promote the Democrat party. They should spend time on voter fraud -which is illegal-and not spend time on possibly chilling free speech.

Hitler would be so proud! I guess Ms Joyce missed that year of Constitutional Law. We can only hope the good people of Missouri have enough sense to remove her from office. Just remember whose campaign has organized this “Truth Squad”.

This is just another example of a politically partisan democrat thinking they know better than the rest of us. As if the rest of us are so dumb that we can’t tell the difference between truth and lies and so to make it “easy” they will eliminate the first amendment rights of those who might say something they disagree with.

Well Ms. Joyce, we see right through you! If you can’t give us the benefit of the doubt to see through partisan punditry well then we can’t give you the benefit of the doubt regarding your intelligence!

A man with a rifle is less to fear, than a quisling with a pen. To support anti American values is or rather should be grounds for disbarment. The courts have already ruled that political ads to not need to have any truth. OBama does not want the truth, that’s why he uses the teleprompter — so his handlers can put the words in this puppets mouth.

There is nothing new about the way Obama is covering his ass in this campaign - with thug tactics, threats of lawsuits and now intimidation by local law enforcement. here have been many reports from the ‘behind the scenes’ of the Obama campaign. Threats of law suits are growing rapidly. He has spent a half a billion dollars trying to get elected. It is appearing that a large portion of this mass of wealth is being spent on strong arm tactics. The MSM’s silence is deafening.

And for Jennifer Joyce to happily go along with this nonsense is indicative of just how badly a house cleaning of local St Louis government is in order.

These strong arm tactics are reminiscent of any despotic tyrant, and a sad commentary on the state of American politics. We can do better, we should demand better … and we should demand resignations, and if we don’t get them, get them out of office by whatever legal means are at our disposal.

“Clearly there are those who are attempting to twist the purpose of this initiative for their own benefit. This attack is a great example of how the truth is distorted in campaigns and what we’re trying to stand up against.”

Ms. Mannies, more of us than you think have read Orwell’s 1984. Doublespeak does not not become you.

I used to live in St. Louis. Not sure if your’s is an elected position, but for freedom’s sake, Citizens of St. Louis, get rid of this statist.

Hey, anybody “truth detecting” stuff from the Obama campaign?… nah, I didn’t think so and with that - ‘nuf said.

It sounds to me like yet another wanna-be dictator’s henchman got caught with her hand in the cookie jar. Unfortunately for her, the citizens of this fair state and this great country still do believe in their rights as described in the US Constitution. They tend to get a bit testy when someone who was entrusted with elected office sets themselves up in opposition to those rights.

“Public servant acceding to corruption.
576.020. 1. A public servant commits the crime of acceding to corruption if he knowingly solicits, accepts or agrees to accept any benefit, direct or indirect, in return for:

(1) His official vote, opinion, recommendation, judgment, decision, action or exercise of discretion as a public servant; or

(2) His violation of a known legal duty as a public servant.

2. Acceding to corruption by a public servant is a class D felony.”

Careful, couselor… you may now claim that you were acting as citizens, but your open, authoritative, and collective call to law enforcement for action was absolutely done in official capacity, (you were formerly introduced at the making of the statements).

The other end of that tail you’ve grabbed has teeth.

This is so typical of politicians in general and dumborats in particular.
She is quoted as saying that people who say “untruthful”things about the messiah will be persecuted,oops,prosecuted and then when called on it,well I never said any such thing.
The messiah’s campaign has a history of doing this and it is well documented.
This is classic divide and conquer politics where it isn’t downright intimidation.
People like this are our fault,we the people.
We elect them,then keep electing them and then we’re shocked,SHOCKED,when they do or say something stupid like this.
This is exactly why these people cannot be trusted with the safety and security of this country.
Please do not put them in that position.

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” — C.S. Lewis

Don’t lie to us, Jennifer. You proudly proclaimed your role as an Obama enforcer until the reaction turned negative. You can’t undo the past and your past words by shrieking, Uh-huh and pointing the finger at others. That shows an extreme lack of maturity which probably explains why you agreed to be a thug for Obama.

No, Ms. Joyce. You are intersted in using the guns of the government to silence people who do not agree 100% with what you want. You want to make sure Obama wins Missouri by any means necessary. You are wrong, Ms. Joyce. Your conduct is corrupt and chilling. Hitler would be proud of you.

— Amazedbythelunacy
“Just because you don’t like what the folks are typing, you question their validity.”

Reread my post of 1:24 pm September 29th, 2008. I stated my suspicions, my evidence and my recommendation.
The spike in posts and the huge number of new posters I thought was very fishy. I posted because most of those posts were riddled with absolute lies and deformation of character - the stuff the extreme right wing, a swift boat squad, has been doing for years - it’s easy to spot. Some of the posts referenced names of previous posters, except there were no such previous posters in the forum. I was just too fishy.

Some might say that Barack Obama is trying to use the threat of being sued to convince people not to oppose him. There are rumors going around that Jennifer Joyce was completely on board with this and only bothered to try to cover it up once the public turned against her thuggish tactics.

See what I did there, Jennifer? I used the media’s quisling words like “some might say” and “there are rumors” to allow me to say whatever I want. And they say you can’t teach an old dog new tricks. Looks like you can’t touch me for this one.

But, to show that I’m not afraid of you and your fellow brown shirts, allow me to say this -

Barack Obama will be a disaster for this country. His economic policies (where he can bother to take a stand) are wrong. His social policies (again, the few times where he’s bothered to have one….like his wholehearted support of murdering children that survive abortions) are wrong. And, on a personal note, the way he says “Pakistan” pisses me off.

Hey Jennifer, Barack Obama is an ass. Now have me arrested me or prove that isn’t true.

Jennifer,
Where do you get your Obamabrown shirts?? Turned in any family members for re-education??? What are we going to have to do as a solution??? Torchs and pitchforks?? LOL!! Joyce you’re a loon.

Wow, what an embarrassing situation for Missouri to be in. to have Jennifer Joyce ”watching” everything you do say or do in support of Senator McCain is not only frightening, it is probably illegal if she decides to take action against you. This is the United States of America and we live under our beloved law of the land, the Constitution of the United States of America and the Bill of Rights. Free speech and Freedom of Assembly are chief among those rights. Ms. Joyce says, ” there are those attempting to twist the purpose of this initiative”, the only thing being twisted here is the law of the land!

“Jessica Fields”, I love you! What a great statement!

This is no surprise considering that a couple years ago, a tv movie was put out called “Path to 9/11″ when certain democrats in congress threatened to yank ABC’s broadcast license if they showed the movie - which put former president Clinton’s decisions in a bad light.

http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/07/thugs-for-life-dems-threaten-abcs-broadcast-license-over-path-to-911/

— Heywood Usumi
“Now have me arrested me or prove that isn’t true.”

We know it isn’t true because Obama is not a Republican.

St. Louis Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce’s public involvement in Obama’s “Truth Squad” displays complete and utter disregard for the mission of her office, “To pursue justice for all citizens within the highest standards of ethical behavior and professionalism.”

Her job isn’t to defend Barack Obama against inaccurate claims or character attacks. If she wants to make it her business, it should be to defend all presidential candidates against the same.

I make no distinction between McCain or Obama, “Truth Squads.” If you’re a member of law enforcement or the court system, you have no business abusing your office to intimidate citizens from utilizing free speech. And if you’re going to do it, you sure as hell better be non-partisan in your dealings.

Whether or not it was the Circuit Attorney’s intent to intimidate Republicans, she has made many citizens uncomfortable via her unwillingness to defend all candidates. In doing so, she causes the public to lose faith in our justice system.

Through her partisan actions while a prominent member of our circuit court, she has sullied her reputation, her office, and the city of St. Louis. Until she apologizes for this injustice, she leaves a stain on us all.

These defences are foolish. I just finished 30 years of military service (mostly reserve with 10 years total active) I was medically retired due to injuries (non-combat) received in Operation Iraqi freedom. In the civilian world I worked in law enforcement on several occasions. The idea that a Law enforcement official would endorse a candidate (using their position as a platform) let alone start a organisation like this is sick. As puplc officials we should not be seen as biased. What this unethical person does in her private time is her bussiness. But to state that she never said they would prosecute is not the issue. If Bush had started “truth squads” the ACLU would have gone crazy and rightly so. Who is to decide what the truth is.. this Stalist… I do not think so!
in my years of service I have met many fine people who gave thier very lives to protect the Constitution.. This person has whored herself to a political campaign and has disgraced the true defenders of free speach she should be fired.