What’s going to happen if he can’t prove his eligibility to be President? Would he be out of luck then?

What conspiracy is this, Think|?

President-elect Obama won not only more than a majority of the electoral votes, as required, but also won the popular vote, which is not required.

The Constitution requires that he be a natural born citizen. CHECK.
Further, that he be a resident of the US for at least 14 years. CHECK.
And, be at least 35 years of age. CHECK.

Those 3 requirements and the votes of the electoral college are the only requirements to attain election as the President. Come January 20th, Obama is the duly elected President.

So will we be applying affirmative action here, i.e. white men need not apply?

Think| also consider this: Obama doesn’t have to prove anything. The burden of proof is on the accusers in our legal system. However, I do believe that his mother was a citizen at the time of his birth, and she was residing in the US at the time..unless Hawaii was NOT a state in 1961. Even then, I think it would have counted.

hs and Travis,

Tell, which hospital was he born in? Hmm.. the official birth certificate would tell us that if he would just release it.

This is not conspiracy. This is simple rule of law. He must be a natural born citizen. This is before the Supreme Court and Obama will be required to submit his official birth certificate by Dec. 1st. Jake Wagman — please correct these two folks on this issue. Surely there is a Post story that you could reference that gives the background on the case and the Constitutional questions that are being raised.

First, if you wanted the birth certificate, you need only make application for a copy from that state’s Department of Health (http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html).

But more to the conspiracy theory of President-elect Obama’s citizenship, the following press release was issued by Philip Berg:

“Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s lack of ‘qualifications’ to serve as President of the United States filed a Writ of Certiorari in the United States Supreme Court on October 30, 2008…. Accordingly, the U. S. Supreme Court has set dates in which Barack Obama, the DNC and all co-Defendants are to respond to the Writ, which is on or before December 1, 2008.”

The press release goes on to state that, “Mr. Berg’s case, Berg vs. Obama was dismissed from the United States District Court … for lack of standing. Mr. Berg filed a Writ of Certiorari for review of the case and an injunction to stay the election pending review. Justice Souter denied the injunction.”

Both About.com and Factcheck.org have copious articles on the validity of President-elect Obama’s legitimacy on this issue and many other conspiracy theories surrounding the issue.

The following is from Factcheck.org:

“In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document’s authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is ‘fake.’

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as ’supporting documents’ to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.”

It is clear not only from Factcheck.org’s independent review of the original documents, but also from the actions of both the US District Court of Pennsylvania and the US Supreme Court, that this claim of illegitimacy is false and an exercise of futility, but requires those bodies to go through the motions to ensure that a democratic election was held.

What we have here is a matter of those unhappy with the election results attempting to cast aspersions on the President-elect and cast doubt on his legitimacy to run the country. This type of behavior can only serve to strengthen those forces world-wide committed to disrupt the American way of life.

For over 200 years, the United States has proudly laid claim to 43 transitions of government without a drop of blood being shed. It is exactly because of the engineering by our forefathers in drafting our constitution that we can have such peaceful succession of government. Any attempt to thwart this process is a direct attack on American democracy.

Travis,

BUT that was not the original was it? The original certificate will have the hospital of birth on it. The one factcheck (which is a pro-Obama site) reviewed was an unofficial copy. That copy also does not indicate whether it was a foreign birth registered to a Hawaiian citizen, or if it was a live birth in Hawaii. There is a big difference as it relates to the Constitution.

Take a closer look at the documents submitted by Mr. Berg. There are sworn affidavits that tell a pretty interesting and compelling story.

So you are saying that by seeking the truth and requiring verification of his Constitutional eligibility, that we are seeking a non-peaceful transition of power? That is just a plain ignorant statement. The simple fact is that if he gets into office without being a natural born citizen, then we have a Constitutional violation.

All Obama needs to do is release that original certificate and the issue is over with.

Now Travis, answer my question. Which hospital was he born in?

A writ of certiorari (did I spell that right)? is a REQUEST for the Supreme Court to hear a case. The Court can do three things with a Certiorari request:

The Justice who has jurisdiction over the particular Federal District that it originates from can refuse to grant it on it’s merits (which happened in this case).

The Justices in Conference can examine the request and refuse to grant it, only if it passes the first check point.

The Justices in Conference can grant the request and set in motion the apparatus for a full hearing with written opinion on the case in question.

By the way, ORIGINAL birth certificates are never released from county records, at least not in my experience. You can request to SEE one, under the right conditions, but no one has originals in their hands. There is only one original document, and it is in the files at the appropriate county courthouse. Signed and sealed copies are sufficient for every purpose I know of.

By the way, I looked at the official copy of my birth certificate, and the copies I have of my Children’s. None of them list the “hospital of birth”. They list the city, state, mother’s maiden name, and attending physician’s name.

hs — his birth certificate would look like this:

http://newmediajournal.us/images/obama_bc.gif

Notice the line that says “Name of Hospital or Institution”. That is what we need to see.

There is a very simple solution to this discussion. Obama needs to release the document.

So — hs, Travis, Jake. Which hospital was he born in? Did you read the affidavits submitted by Mr. Berg to the Supreme Court?

Obviously, no answer will satisfy someone looking for a conspiracy….