11.14.2008 9:03 am
Rally against Calif.’s Prop. 8 tomorrow at the Old Courthouse
St. Louis Post-Dispatch
Local opponents of a California proposition to ban gay marriage will hold a rally tomorrow at noon in front of the Old Courthouse.
According to organizers, speakers will include State. Sen. Joan Bray and St. Louis Board of Aldermen President Lewis Reed.
The demonstration is one of several planned across the country to show support against Proposition 8, a California ballot initiative that — like Missouri voters did four years ago — amends the state constitution to define marriage as only between a man and a woman.
Before the last week’s vote, a court decision had made gay marriage legal in California.
Make sure you punch an old lady or two if she happens to be carrying a bible or a cross.
So, other than free advertising for the loony left the point to this is…?
If a handful of crazies want to stand out in the cold (politically and literally) and scream themselves silly about something that happened 2,000 miles away and that most people there wanted and more than that here wanted, why should anyone else care?
The radical left ‘gay community’ screwed themselves over on this issue a long time ago by insisting on ‘marriage’(a heck no issue with the other 90% of the voters) as opposed to civil unions (which no one cares much about)so this long ago stopped being a ‘rights issue’ and is now only a ‘in your face’ issue.
Now I’m hoping it snows tomorrow…
I remember when the gay community simply wanted “tolerance.” Back then, there was an empathy and support for them. Now they seem to be project a militant and very unattractive image, eroding any feelings of empathetic support.
Thanks for letting me know where not to be tomorrow and also where my State Sen. will be speaking. Can’t wait to vote against her again.
Since the PD has been so intellectually dishonest as usual, here is the link that Amazed referred to:
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/11/it-has-begun-michigan-lib-group-attacks.html
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/marriage-church-prop-2222946-laguna-people
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/11/gay-terror-activists-send-white-powder.html
Yeah, you lefties have some really great people in your camp. Can you imagine if these attacks had been at black churches or mosques or temples?
It would have been front page news.
Wow, so when gays want to be “tolerated” we had empathy, but now that we are demanding the same rights that you have we are “militant” and “unattractive.” And people wonder WHY we are so angry. Let’s put some aspect of YOUR life up to “popular” vote and see how you feel about it.
Wanting to have your partnership recognized as marriage is radical? Are you people completely off your rockers?
A democratic socicety must balance competing interests of diverse groups, in this case, those advocating for gay marriage, and those who believe marriage should be between a man and a woman. Just like the abortion debate, these two sides will never agree.
Unfortunately, the way the same-sex marriage law that was temporarily put in place was written, the rights of freedom of speech and of religion were subjugated to the rights of same-sex couples. This means that the door would have been open to make the act of expressing ones opinion that same-sex marriage is wrong a hate crime - when in reality, that speech is a legitimate expression that holds no ill-will to those who engage in homosexual behavior and is consistent with thousands of years of belief by religions across the world. Freedom of religion is compromised when an individual must perform an act contrary to thier belief, or when the government begins to designate which belief systems are allowed and which are not by removing the religious tax exemption (the US Supreme Court has equated this with eliminating with free speech for a group of people).
I personally believe there is a middle ground that can be crafted in the law that will fully respect the desires of same-sex couples, while protecting the freedom of speech and freedom of religion that America was founded on, and for which my pilgrim ancestors fled England.
This can only be achieved if extremists in the GLBT community stop harassing those who hold other points of view, and begin working on collaborative solutions. The events of the past few days communicate to the public which side of the debate is truly bigoted and hateful. Targeting people of faith for expressing a different opinion is too appalling for dialog and progress to take place.
I think that two mature adults who love each other should be allowed to marry, regardless of their sexual orientation. With that said, I would have to disagree with the gay marriage ban imposed in California. And it is understandable that those on the defense are wanting to protest, as voicing your disagreement with the opposition is just fine. But what is beginning to happen is where I draw the line. Reports are surfacing that protesters are going after symbols of Christianity and people’s faith in God. I happen to be a Christian, believe in Christ, and it deeply offends me that someone would blame Christ or the Christian church for the gay marriage ban. For the record, Christ loves everyone, including you. To attack Christ is anti-Christ, or evil by definition, and if anyone on here sees differently, PLEASE understand I want nothing to do with you! It amazes me that the cross is always the first thing that gets trampled on, but what about Islam, which preaches this: “Homosexuality is unlawful in Islam. It is neither accepted by the state nor by the Islamic Society. Quran clearly states that it is unjust, un-natural, transgression, ignorant,criminal and corrupt.” Why are these people not trampling on the Quran, then?
The biggest problem that we have in America right now with rights being taken is from courts that legislate from the bench. So REAGARDLESS of what this is a protest for or against, since Missouri has made it abundantly clear that we legislate from the ballot box, why anyone would show up in Missouri to support something distinctly California (as opposed to national), makes no sense to me whatsoever. California is begging the federal government for bailout money - paid for by all citizens including those from MO. Do we really want to support California politics for Missouri?
Two days after the election, 2,000 homosexual protesters surrounded a Mormon temple in Los Angeles chanting “Mormon scum.” Protesters picketed Rick Warren’s Saddleback Church, holding signs reading “Purpose-Driven Hate.” Calvary Chapel in Chino Hills was spray painted. Church members’ cars have been vandalized, and at least two Christians were assaulted. Protesters even hurled racial epithets at African-Americans because blacks voted overwhelmingly in favor of traditional marriage.
Someone needs to tell these folks that we live a democratic country, not a banana republic ruled by thugs. What hypocrisy from those who spend so much of their time preaching tolerance to everybody else.
Matrimonial law reflects a moral judgment — that marriage is inherently heterosexual, monogamous, and permanent — a union of one man and one woman.
This view reflects an understanding that marriage is a two-in-one-flesh communion of persons. This communion is consummated by sexual acts that are reproductive in nature. They unite the spouses as a single procreative unit—an organic unity achieved even by infertile couples. Only a mated pair can be a complete organism capable of human procreation.
Since homosexual acts have no relationship to procreation and cannot unite persons organically, these acts cannot be marital—which means relationships integrated around them cannot be marriages.
By protecting traditional marriage, nobody is taking away anybody’s rights. People are simply upholding the framework of society’s most basic institution, the loss of which would irreparably damage our families and our society.