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12.12.2008 4:14 pm

Disputed gun buy back set for Saturday

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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Gun owners wait in line for last year's buyback

Gun owners wait in line for last year's buyback

The gun buyback program that caused a dust-up between Mayor Francis Slay and other members of the Police Board is set for Saturday.

Police Board president Chris Goodson had questioned the effectiveness of giving citizens cash for guns. Goodson and other members of the board shot down the program in a vote at the end of a long meeting last month – a meeting that Slay, who supports the gun buy back program, had already left.

Later, however, Slay helped push the event back on the table. It will be all day tomorrow at the Omega Center, 3900 Goodfellow.

Police are offering $50 for each handguns and $100 for “assault-style” weapons.

No word whether any aldermen will be turning in their firearms.

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Anybody want to make a bet that they won’t get more than 10 guns that are in good working order and that the shootings in 09 will match or surpass 08 proving that this is a dumbass idea and a waste of money?

— Amazedbythelunacy
4:35 pm December 12th, 2008

LMAO I LOVE that last line! I have thought and thought about this issue, and I just can’t see the good in this plan. You have reps asking folks to buy guns to protect themselves, a realist I know! You have folks coming into this city and losing fifty weapons and cases of ammo and going free. Seems they were going “hunting”. And us with a war on terrorism. Abdullah…put on your white face and a drawl, we got a mission boy!

We have scared folks making a run on gun shops, while many of them will never secure those weapons properly. NRA membersghip doesn’t insure they will. I know of two memebers myself who lost weapons, one when he left his in his car outside a titty bar and it was stolen. What makes you think criminals will turn in working weapons and quit criming for $100 bucks? At least maybe you can melt them down and make a memorial to murdered first responders.

— Slugger
6:43 pm December 12th, 2008

OMG…I agree with amazed…the end of the world must be coming! LMAOROTF

— Slugger
6:44 pm December 12th, 2008

Amazed are you an idiot? With near record unemployment and layoffs and the economy in the crapper, I bet that the buy-back reaches a record for the program. If you truly believe that getting a gun off the streets for $50 is a waste of money, i just hope that you remember that when you are carjacked or robbed at gun point.

— 123Man
9:08 pm December 12th, 2008

123man- your post makes no sense. If you feel there will be more weapons on the street, then that means the program WON’T take in as many weapons this year. Unless you think the cops are going to sell the turn ins back to the criminals. More folks are killed by guns used for protection than you know. The stories you hear of folks shot just aren’t reported that way. Criminals have already sized you up when they strike. When we take down, we use our training as much as our weapons. You will end up on the short end. I can almost guarantee you that. We sometimes do and we are trained in more aspects than you are. And you will end up in prison if you use your weapon on the street, even if you are the proper color and gender. You will be the prisoners’ fav bitch because they will find out what you did. Try to kill one of their own. You will bring your main squeeze back stretched orifices and disease. And you wouldn’t believe where they leave their tattoos as a remembrance for you. Life isn’t a movie. I’d get counseling for your excessive fears before you get hurt or hurt someone else.

— Danny the Cop
10:29 pm December 12th, 2008

Serious question…If a gun turned in for the buyback turns out to be stolen, is it returned to the rightful owner?

Why the blanket amnesty? I own many firearms and even the cheapest, least important to me, is worth way more than $100.

Now tell me, how many citizens are going to turn in THEIR personal weapons, weapons that may be their only defense against a criminal, for a mere 50-100 bucks? What you will have is a line of criminals getting money for guns they came about illegally. Thanks to Mr. Slay, these same criminals are encouraged to go out and steal a few more firearms because they just sold theirs to the city.

You can’t fix stupid and Slay falls into that category.

— Amazedbythelunacy
10:25 am December 13th, 2008

Yep, Slay is an idiot. Did you catch that he signed a letter to keep a local corporate criminal out of prison who ran a defense contractor company here in STL and stole stockholders (and indirectly, the troops)money with an option scam? I saw him with that very criminal not too long before the SEC busted him. Little Slay was looking up at big Mike with an adoring “I want to jump your bones” look. Money changing hands towards Slay aside, I think he likes Big Mike in a most peculiar way. Whole who’s who of corruption in that STL Business Journal story about the letter campaign. These guns are the least of our criminal issues when corporate crooks get supported by our elected officials, sheriffs, university heads and others. I would almost believe Mike’s mea culpas to the employees in that article as he acted like it was all the scapegoats’ fault who ended up in prison if he hadn’t banned Post-Dispatch reporters from company meetings after they started questioning the bad activities. If you didn’t know it was happening Mike, why ban the reporters? At that point you should have investigated it yourself. You didn’t. You let folks be fired instead who refused to go along with other graft in your company…ahem…THE STOCKHOLDERS’ company. Coward! And he is raising his kids to crime too. This gun buyback is a feel good thing. It doesn’t touch the mayor’s crimes of ethics at all. We say we want the SEC to do more, then we have judges who rely on letters from those profiting from the corruption sway their decisions. Ya’all got yourselves a real catholic mafia in STL it seems. Money talks and we know what walks.

— Disgusted Repub
11:48 am December 13th, 2008

This always brings up more questions than it answers. Some crime with a legal gun, then report it stolen. There are lots of inncoents in jail who picked up a “legal” gun owners’ weapon dropped after that person “defended” themselves with it, but knew the circumstances of their John Wayne actions weren’t totally legal, and they discovered all too late they didn’t have the nuts to see a trial through where they would have to face the “criminal’s” family and friends in court. To me, if you are stupid enough to let your weapons be insecure enough to be stolen, you should not get them back unless you can prove without a doubt they were taken during a robbery or something and you just weren’t careless. And no, keeping your collections out in the open as a sigh of your “manhood” isn’t keeping them secure, even in a locked case. I own weapons. Even during a robbery I have not taken them out at times because had I done so, the criminal would have taken them as they already had the drop on me. Money is never worth a life. You would think this pro-life community woulr realize that.

— Been Shot, Done that
11:57 am December 13th, 2008

Well, since they say crime goes where the money is, maybe we should start investigating ALL of the military defense contractors more closely since that is where the money is right now. The only industry that can be assured of raking it in during this economic meltdown which has no end. I used to work at one where we had double and triple dipping military brass coming in wanting their cut to use their rank and influence to let contracts to the industry. And maybe the casino industry where they say losing 500 dollars every two hours isn’t enough. Now where is someone who can afford to lose more than $500 every two hours around here getting that kind of money? Have an answer Mayor Slay? How many dollars did you get from that political fiasco? Do you think some of them might be using guns to get more gambling monies? THINK fools THINK!

How about creating an office of federal government that hears the pleas of whistleblowers who were fired for speaking up? Hear their case and perhaps give them first crack at a job if they are qualified? After all, you already know they are honest enough to risk losing all, so your battle is halfway won right there. Those who stole have plenty of stolen lawyer money to drive whistleblowers right into the ground the way it stands should they choose to fight termination, or worse.

Time to get realistic about fighting white collar crime, or none of these gun-toting criminals are going to respect your laws. Why should they? You don’t. Instead you write letters to protect these paler collar criminals, even though you know the investigators have a good case against them. Why should we pay to have government agencies do an investigation if you are going to dilute it, or get it thrown out altogether? And profiting from the corruption like many of you letter writers do is worse. You had stock at one time, or got a campaign contribution from the Shanahans and that company’s officers, didn’t you Mayor Slay? I know many on that list did, and still do profit from that corrupt company, even though it is now owned by italians. Maybe they are more honest than americans are. So why are we letting judges sit on the bench who are swayed by those partners in crime running the oldest scams in the book? Thanks to those in the press who don’t cave into the power-tripping and report this kind of stuff. Many don’t have the guts to say a word.

— You're Dirty To The Core
2:56 pm December 13th, 2008