Slay takes another swipe at Troupe and his gun push
Troupe, left, and Slay
In addition to being a fan of concealed weapons laws, Alderman Charles Quincy Troupe has also made no attempt to disguise his animosity for Mayor Francis Slay.
Now, it seems, Slay is returning the favor.
After Troupe’s firearms push made news last week — the north St. Louis alderman has lost faith in the city police and wishes more of his law-abiding constituents would get gun permits — Slay took the opportunity to question whether the effort was more about politics than public safety.
This weekend, after returning from a memorial for a rookie cop killed on duty last year, Slay got in another jab at Troupe.
“When a St. Louis alderman suggested last week that St. Louis police officers might not care about the City neighborhoods in which they patrol, it is unlikely that he was thinking of Police Officer Norvelle Brown,” Slay wrote on his website. “Norvelle Brown was an armed, trained, on-duty police officer murdered last year by a teenager using a handgun given to him by another teenager.”
Slay spoke Saturday at the Wohl rec center, where a monument was dedicated in Brown’s honor.
“I used the sad occasion of the ceremony,” Slay wrote later, “to urge St. Louisans to make every effort to get handguns off our streets.”
Including, it would seem, Alderman Troupe.
Slay did not create the Family Justice Center. That was a group effort of many local agencies. Yes, he supported the proposal to have the Center here, but that’s about it. What mayor wouldn’t do that?
I think all of you who don’t live in the City, like Black Democract, should focus on your own community because you have plenty of problems out there to keep you busy!
The county has a lot less problems then St. Louis City, for one we arent running with our hat in hand trying to have a city county merger, secondly our government is ran much more efficiently than the city. And as long as I am a proud business owner, tax payer, and a healthy contributor to the city of St. Louis I will voice my concerns about it.
Of 27 employees that I have 20 are city residents. I chose to locate my business in the city and sought no tax credits for doing so. Why because whats good for the goose is good for the gander. I don’t duck taxes through fancy accounting works or a savy tax lawyer.
And I aam able to multitask and focus on more than one problem at a time. You should be thankful for people like me who actually make positivie contributions to the City of St. Louis.
“I want fewer, not more, guns on the streets. While I realize that a ban on hand-guns and assault riffles (nothing used for hunting) would not eliminate their presence in our community, a reduction certainly would limit the ability of law-breakers to steal them from law-abiders. ”
How about we ban cars too? That would prevent criminals from having access to steal them wouldnt it? It should be easier to ban cars too, they arent protected in the Constitution.
About these “assault rifles”, what is it that makes a regular rifle an “assault rifle”? And does this apply to other instruments as well? Is a long handled spoon more likely to be used as an assault spoon than a regular short handled spoon?
“And, at the same time reduce the likelihood of being shot within one’s own home, which is greater if there is a gun kept in the home.”
What? By your logic, I am XX number of times more likely to be shot in my home because I have XX number of weapons. What about the likely hood of a criminal to be shot in my home during the commission of a crime? I would also be twice as likely to be in a car accident because I have two vehicles.
“I did not sign-up to be a cop; I did not receive the appropriate training to be a cop; I don’t want to be a cop. No civilian should want to play cop.”
Civilians cant play cop, impersonating an officer is a criminal offense. Civilians can and should accept some responsibility for their own safety and well being.
Here’s a novel idea - why don’t you Dems vote for a Republican? WHen you don’t like Washington because of the GOP, the voters try a Democrat? Why not try this in St. Louis? It couldn’t get any worse.
There goes Sub Par with his flawed “Guns vs. Cars” anaolgy.
Know what? If the only purpose for driving cars was to inflict bodily harm on others [instead of transportion and economic commerce] they would be outlawed….
Imagine a society where we needed more cars to protect ourselves from other cars.
I’ll run you over first if I have to protect myself!
Tell Homer Simpson I said Hello.
The constitution does not ‘protect guns’ the constitution says arms, it also ways ‘well regulated militia’. Does this mean if I band together a group of veterans we should be able to legal own missile launchers??? Or how about nuclear warheads. I sure would feel alot safer. At some point simple logic has to step in.
Its funny the same people who are gung-ho about ‘arms’, are the same ones who wanted to disarm Saddam and the rest of the civilized world.
BD, so you are one of the people who claim the “militia clause”, ok, fine, answer this for me, The Constitution refers to “the people” five times in the Bill of Rights, in which other amendment does “the people” not mean “the people”, or is this exclusive to the 2nd?
While I sympathize with the Aldermans constiuents, I’m hard pressed to think that by arming them that they will be less likely to be held up or at worst murdered. No one seems to be addressing/discussing the root cause for crimes. Lack of Education + unemployment=crime. What can the City/BOA do to bring in work to the area to better the lives of those who are committing the most crimes? Am I saying educate and employ criminals? no, get to them before they are criminals.
This is a long problem for Cities across the US that have pockets of poor areas and I really believe that it goes back to lack of education and then as these kids get older, lack of employment opportunities.
When people say “focus on your own neighborhood” they seem to be forgetting that this is one big City and if one neighborhood goes so do the rest. You think that your south city ‘hood isnt effected by crime in North City? Try insurance premiums going up because of overall crime in the City, police department pulling officers from south city to north city because of the high crime - point being, you cant just sluff it all off to those who live in those neighborhoods and say it’s their problem and wash your hands of it. You have to help too big guy
There are not any easy or simple answers to gun-related crimes. The Mayor is the politician that is throwing emotions and the past into a personal battle with Alderman Troupe. He could have very easily focused on the memorial for what it was, a time to remember another young person that wanted to make a difference makiing the ultimate sacrifice. He made a political choice to mention Alderman Troupe and the action that Alderman Troupe proposed. It is like jr. high, where two ego-centric hormone-raged boys have to get the last word in an argument.