Abortion bill deal appears to be in the works in Missouri Senate
JEFFERSON CITY — Never count out an abortion bill in the Missouri Legislature.
This year’s abortion bill, which would strengthen existing waiting period laws and add the crime of coercing an abortion, is back to life in the Missouri Senate. The same bill never made it to the Senate floor last year, and it was filibustered earlier this session.
But a group of senators have been meeting overtime in Sen. Charlie Shields’ office the past couple of weeks to come up with a compromise piece of legislation that would appease anti-abortion Republicans and convince Democrats who support abortion rights to not filibuster the bill.
The deal, according to a substitute version of the bill that has not yet been offered on the floor, would get rid of the portion of the bill that creates the crime of “coercing” an abortion. Critics of that language said it could actually lead to criminalization of parental advice to children who become pregnant, based on how the bill was worded.
On the Senate floor, Sen. Jolie Justus, D-Kansas City, said Democrats have made an offer to Republicans pushing the bill that would allow the bill to pass. The other option that has been talked about is for Senate Republicans to call the previous question, which, if they had the votes, would cut off debate. The procedure is used all the time in the House but is rare in the Senate and hasn’t been used once last session or this session.
The new version of the bill would add to the information that must be given to women who seek abortions, and it would add language that says an abortion cannot be coerced. But it would not create a new crime of coercing an abortion.
Last night at about 10 p.m., Sen. Rob Mayer, R-Dexter, brought up the old version of the bill for discussion, and various senators talked about the compromise that was under negotiation.
Senators discussed the legislation and negotiations for about an hour and then pulled the bill back and adjourned.
I wish I was aborted. Stupid life.
“Why do you have to be a nut to believe human life starts at conception?”
Because you base your statements and your beliefs on crack-pot religious convictions and not on hard scientific evidence. Nor do you consider the rights of the woman to choose what she does with her own body as valid. Instead, you choose to inflict your convictions upon society by demanding that the rule of law be based on your ever-hardening crack-pot religious convictions, instead upon a shared sensibility of law. In other words, SECULAR law.
Not everyone believes what you do, but you and some who agree with you are willing to do everything they can, including bending and breaking existing laws, to assume power and inflict this closed-mindedness on those who don’t AGREE with you.
If you don’t like abortion… don’t have one. Teach your children abstinence. Encourage your version of education. But don’t strip the ability of others who disagree with you to choose their own path, which is exactly what this joke of a legislature in Missouri is doing.
“I personally know that there are places where people can go 7 days a week to get food and shelter in MO.”
Do you also know that those places are past their limits? Go see for yourself - watch as they are forced to turn away an increasing number of people who have nowhere else to go. Then get back on your high horse and ride off to your pristine ivory tower.
Like I have said in the past. It is a womans decision. If the radical religeous right wants to offer medical, pre/postnatal care, fund adoption services, psyciatric care for the mothers being forced to have children, show us the money.
The right wants to control but they don’t want to pay the price. They don’t want to support social programs but they want to dictate what we can and can’t do. Christian prayer in school. You won’t see right wing radicals promoting Islam any time soon.
These nuts can shove off.
i see science has managed to escape pjb too…..one more time, at 20 weeks, the children can feel themselves being ripped to shreds….sorry this is the inconvenient truth, but don’t kill the messenger, oh, wait, that is just what you enjoy doing
“If you are in a car crash and you kill a pregnant mother, you are charged for the wrongful death of 2 individuals; the mother and her unborn child.”
Well I think that is wrong also. It was clearly a move by the Pro-Live groups to set up just this type of argument.
JMfree didn’t call us “crack pots” - he called us “crock pots”. Slow cookers! Rival or WestBend?
I doubt if a baby in the womb gives one crock about the economy. He’s just wondering if he’s going to make it out alive to have an economy to worry about.
Yet, again, “parents” are being seen as experts on child development and growth. Kudos to good parents who are experts in their children’s lives, but I would think this act insinuates that parent has no definition, and if the definition is becoming a parent a moment of conception–doesn’t the person have the right to say what to do with their body until the first term, as they are now themselves a parent?
Thought 2: Could we also write in an equal clause that coerces minors to have a child on religious grounds? I have seen it happen time and time again, where a parent will promise child-rearing support (falsified support), the advent of miracles (isn’t this coercion), or reinstitute ideations of abuse on raising children. I wouldn’t mention it, except I have seen too many pastors’ children walk through medical doors with psychiatric conditions that are not resolved, abusive patterns remain, and yet they get away with their actions by talking on the pulpit about this group belief. Where is the parent mentoring in that?
ksiefert48 - You just prove my point. Welcome to the nut club!!! You must be a charter member. Your argument on science could easily go the other way. I’m assuming you ignore science when the subject of embryonic stem cell research comes up? How convenient!
I had always vote Republican until claire ran and I had to vote
Demonrat because Immoral minoritie was intruding in my bedroom.
Now they are telling me again to vote for the demonrats.
I’m see the republicans as a gathering of loons, they stick
to one calling and keep losing????????
I see 2010 slipping away from any hope while my Ex party
sucks up to the bible belt.