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05.12.2009 10:07 am

Abortion bill deal appears to be in the works in Missouri Senate

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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JEFFERSON CITY — Never count out an abortion bill in the Missouri Legislature.

This year’s abortion bill, which would strengthen existing waiting period laws and add the crime of coercing an abortion, is back to life in the Missouri Senate. The same bill never made it to the Senate floor last year, and it was filibustered earlier this session.

But a group of senators have been meeting overtime in Sen. Charlie Shields’ office the past couple of weeks to come up with a compromise piece of legislation that would appease anti-abortion Republicans and convince Democrats who support abortion rights to not filibuster the bill.

The deal, according to a substitute version of the bill that has not yet been offered on the floor, would get rid of the portion of the bill that creates the crime of “coercing” an abortion. Critics of that language said it could actually lead to criminalization of parental advice to children who become pregnant, based on how the bill was worded.

On the Senate floor, Sen. Jolie Justus, D-Kansas City, said Democrats have made an offer to Republicans pushing the bill that would allow the bill to pass. The other option that has been talked about is for Senate Republicans to call the previous question, which, if they had the votes, would cut off debate. The procedure is used all the time in the House but is rare in the Senate and hasn’t been used once last session or this session.

The new version of the bill would add to the information that must be given to women who seek abortions, and it would add language that says an abortion cannot be coerced. But it would not create a new crime of coercing an abortion.

Last night at about 10 p.m., Sen. Rob Mayer, R-Dexter, brought up the old version of the bill for discussion, and various senators talked about the compromise that was under negotiation.

Senators discussed the legislation and negotiations for about an hour and then pulled the bill back and adjourned.

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The legislature needs to keep their noses out of people’s medical decisions that are rightfully kept between an individual & their doctor of CHOICE.

— AVocalMinority
3:23 pm May 12th, 2009

NOt my intent to acuse anyone,if I came across that way, my apologies. I like all am a sinner.

My perspective was from the legality of it. a law was passed that wasnt ever voted on. No congress, no legeslature, just a court.. that is not what this country was founded on. No one ever wants to bring that point up, but its probably the most important.

Likewise, Its important for those who are on the Christian side of this to approach people not on that side with love.

— Patrick Finley
3:27 pm May 12th, 2009

Well…
I dont think that decisions should be made from a Christian perspective or an Atheist perspective.
I guess just from a Moral perspective.

Morally it is HUMAN life that is being taken.
If we were to find anything remotely fetal on Mars; NASA would be jumping up and down screaming; HUMANS were on Mars, HUMANS were on Mars!!
No one would sit down and say: Well I dont know… how old does it look?

Once we establish that it is HUMAN… it comes down to morality.
Sure; It sucks to get pregnant… but ya should have used a condom, or waited will you were ready for the consequences to begin with… I’m sorry if that sucks, but you can give it up for adoption. I dont see why KILLING it cause YOU and some lover of YOURS made a bad choice.

Yes other things are issues to… But its silly to say that tax code is more important than HUMAN life…

I think once the fetus can be removed and grown without the mother this will all be a non issue… but till science catches up with our indiscretion, we will be forced to discuss.

— Sean
3:49 pm May 12th, 2009

I’m still waiting for those who are so quick to pass judgment to step up and volunteer to take care of the children who would be born to parents who cannot raise them if abortion were outlawed. It’s not always as simple a decision as you seem to think. What of the rape victim? The child who is addicted in the womb? The parents who simply cannot feed the mouths they already have, or who don’t have the resources to care for a special-needs child?

Step up and adopt every child who needs a home. Put your money where your morality is.

— Tired of Idiots
4:08 pm May 12th, 2009

“Funny how science vacates the so called “progressives” when it comes to killing children”

This coming from a conservative wing-nut who calls “creationism” or “intelligent design” science. I just consider the source invalid.

All you right-wing neo-nazis know how to do is bleat about your religiosity at the top of your lungs. You do NOT value reputable science, or a well-rounded education, or equal protection under the law. All you value is your own moral turpitude and having supreme control over others, be it through violence, fear, or financial constraint.

If you could read more than one often-misquoted book in your life, I’d encourage you to go pick up some valid science. However, no wing-nuts would dare to utilize critical thinking skills… it might make them *gasp* progressive!!!

— pjb
4:09 pm May 12th, 2009

funny pjb, i never mentioned religion, just science, and your response is name calling, and insults…..when you argument contains one shred of science, logic, or ethics, lets talk…..until then,

ken

— ken siefert
4:13 pm May 12th, 2009

yep “tired of idiots” so the logical next step is to tear innocent children to shreds…..brilliant

— ken siefert
4:16 pm May 12th, 2009

Classic. The most vocal anti-choice poster on this thread is a MAN.

— North County Nan
4:20 pm May 12th, 2009

once again nan, just ignore the science…..it really is a fine counterpoint

— ken siefert
4:22 pm May 12th, 2009

“yep “tired of idiots” so the logical next step is to tear innocent children to shreds…..brilliant.”

The one does not follow from the other. I’m pointing out the hypocrisy of a position that doesn’t take into account the consequences of their moral demands. Or, to turn it back at you: Make every pregnant woman go into labor, whether or not she can afford a doctor; let the surviving children fend for themselves because they’re not my problem… brilliant.

— Tired of Idiots
4:23 pm May 12th, 2009

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