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07.02.2009 11:12 am

A third hearing on city smoking ban bill will be held

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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UPDATED: St. Louis Alderman Greg Carter, chairman of the committee hearing testimony on a proposed smoking ban for most public places in the city, will hold a third hearing next week. It is set for 1 p.m. July 9 at City Hall.

Alderman Lyda Krewson, sponsor of the bill, had hoped Carter would call for a vote after yesterday’s hearing was over. If the committee supports it, the bill moves to the full Board of Aldermen for consideration. Those who testified for Krewson’s bill on Wednesday included Mayor Francis Slay,  St. Louis Rams linebacker Chris Draft and state Reps. Jeanette Mott Oxford and Jamilah Nasheed, both St. Louis Democrats.

At this rate, there is no way the full Board of Aldermen would be able to pass (or kill) the bill before the legislators go on summer break July 10 (returning Sept. 18).  While she is anxious for its passage, Krewson said she wants to make sure that everyone who wants to speak out for and against the ban gets a chance to do so.

The bill would ban smoking in restaurants and bars, although patios and other outside areas wouuld be exempt. The city’s two casinos would also be allowed to let customers continue smoking on the gaming floors, but the restaurant and bars in those facilities would be smoke-free.

The caveat of the bill is one of the most controversial aspects of the legislation: The smoking ban would not go into effect unless St. Louis County passes a similar bill, and there seems to be little interest in doing so considering failed efforts in the county in 2005 and 2006. St. Louis County Executive Charles Dooley favors a statewide ban. Many of the opponents and supporters who spoke Tuesday and Wednesday regarding the city smoking ban bill also favor a statewide ban to assure that a ban in one place doesn’t drive business to a nearby city or county.

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Given that healt care is the major issue this summer one would think the City of St. Louis would be more inclined to nip problems in the bud. The fact that the city attempts to make revenue with alcohol and tobacco speaks poorly of the democratic party as a whole. They cry for more owner occupied houses but a major portion of the city is for rent. They scream for health care yet deal alcohol and tobacco. It seems the city wishes to speak out of both sides of its mouth.

— Michael Mullarkey
11:27 am July 2nd, 2009

How long before Bill Hannigan posts on here trying to continue the oppression of non-smokers in public places? We don’t care what you do to yourselves, smokers, just stop trying to do it to us inside public places. Rights for all.

— Tim
12:33 pm July 2nd, 2009

Hannegen will continue with his crusade until he comes down with one of the myriad diseases that smokers love to inflict upon themselves. What a cause huh?

— jaco
12:46 pm July 2nd, 2009

I don’t think it’s a question of “if” St. Louis goes smoke-free, more like “when”. It’s an evolution of society. Cigarette smoke sux, and I hate how I reek of smoke after a night out. I hope this passes…and I hope Mayor Slay, and other influential local figures, keeps pushing for it to pass.

— Dustin
12:47 pm July 2nd, 2009

Good news opponents of the bill, it will never go into effect even if it is passed! This bill is a joke. When in the history of society has a goverment relied on another goverment’s passage of a law to invoke their own. This is the equivalent of the US lowering taxes if Canada does. Absolutely ridiculous. Lydia Krewson took the cowards way out in drafting this bill; instead of taking a stand she gave the perception of taking a side, but inserted a caviat that will likely never get passed until a state wide ban passes. The citizens of St. Louis City should be offended by the lack of work and effort proposed by this alderman. We should demand our politicians make real use of their time in office other than arguing this bill for 3 days.

— js
1:06 pm July 2nd, 2009

According to the Committee website, the hearing will be at 1pm on July 9. http://stlcin.missouri.org/alderman/committeeCalendar.cfm?thisday=07/09/2009&SiteId=31&ComId=4

— dbenanti
1:13 pm July 2nd, 2009

Lyda Krewson should be working on issues to help the city and the residents of her ward. As a city resident I find her campaign to create and inter-counties smoking ban to be personally ambitious and an easy way to grab headlines with a hot button issue.

As as a city resident we need our Aldermen and Mayor Slay to do things to help struggling businesses like bars and restaraunts which are being hit hard in the economy, and create more jobs and opportunities, versus meddling with the businesses trying to stay afloat in our very challeneged city.

Perhaps Lyda Krewson should work with Mayor Slay to get Ballpark Village kick-started, create and maintain public transportation alliances and clean up depressed areas and burned out neighborhoods rather than a punitive publicity stunt such as this one. Also, why is this proposal then going to allow smoking on casino floors?

Our schools are in shambles, infrastructure is shot, the riverfront is a disaster and downtown is a ghost town. Their priority and solution is a ban on smoking in bars. Are they out of ideas?

— Mort Hill
1:20 pm July 2nd, 2009

Ahhh, once again everyone commenting on how their views and preferences should be forced upon business owners. Businesses are not public, they are not owned by the government, you have the choice to not walk into that building. Currently there is no smoking ban, so should bars/restaurants that choose to be smoke free be forced to allow it? I doubt most would agree with the previous statement, yet people think that the reverse should be true.

The general public has as much a right to tell a business owner whether or not they should allow smoking at their establishment just as much as they have the right to tell them what to serve on their menu… which they don’t.

Instead of the smoking opposition taking the bull by the horns and opening non smoking establishments to cater to the market, they would rather have someone place blanket legislation banning it everywhere… ensuring everyone conforms to their beliefs.

For those proposing the health argument: obesity causes more health problems than smoking or alcohol. Should we ban ‘unhealthy’ foods and mandate exercise? Here comes the next argument: Fat people don’t make me fat, they don’t have an effect on me. This actually increases the cost of healthcare for everyone, so if we want to start making health decisions for people, let’s start with the biggest problem of them all.

— MrWorkout
1:47 pm July 2nd, 2009

You tell em Mort! Let’s ignore the health and well being and the right of everyone to enter a public business without carcinogen-laden smoke. Let’s not make those City businesses more attractive to the 75% of this population that doesn’t smoke. Let’s ignore the rights for all by putting up smokescreens (pun intended smart guy) about other problems the City has…

— Tim
1:48 pm July 2nd, 2009

Here is an idea,you self-anointed folks who only care about “The People”.Instead of ramming through a Bill to ban the use of a LEGAL substance(if politicians REALLY cared about the people instead of saying lots of words to make people think they DO care) Tobacco use should be BANNED.It should be completely banned. How about standing up for a Law that says ANY Politician convicted of corruption gets an automatic 25 year prison sentence? ahhh,but wont happen,because ALL of them are corrupt

— James
1:52 pm July 2nd, 2009

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