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07.14.2009 9:15 am

Kinder takes own tour of Missouri for secret ballot push

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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Taking a break from trying to save his embattled bike race, Lt. Gov. Peter Kinder will tour the state in favor of an initiative that would preserve the current process of forming worker unions.

For the moment, the only way employees can form a union — without a potential employer override — is through voting with a secret ballot. However, a bill pending in Congress, the Employee Free Choice Act, would strengthen the “card check” option — allowing workers to organize if the majority signs up for the union.

President Barack Obama has indicated support for the act.

Enter former State Sen. John Loudon, a Republican from Chesterfield, who is leading a “Save Our Secret Ballot” initiative. If placed on the ballot and approved by voters, the proposal “would amend the Missouri Bill of Rights to solidify the right to vote by secret ballot.”

Kinder will begin barnstorming for the effort today in Sunset Hills, where he’ll be meeting with citizens and business owners, according to a release from Loudon’s group. Later in the summer, Kinder has stops planned in Springfield, Joplin, Cape Girardeau and Kansas City.

Supporters of the measure have nine more months to gather the 150,000 signatures for ballot placement in 2010.

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Garrison, you are full of crock! Union organizers can promise ANYTHING and not be held liable. Employees have sooooo many regulations preventing any persuasion or colusion. What makes you think this anything but a ploy for more power and money???
You are most likely a union thug, excuse me, a union member yourself. Didn’t you just put Chrysler and GM out of business???

— J Hill
1:38 pm July 14th, 2009

Promise anything? What..like a good faith effort to negotiate for healthcare? Maybe some vacation time?

If you don’t think employers intimadate the hell out of employees about unionizing during their so-called company meetings, you’re an idiot.

Did you really think the Bush labor department was going to cite Wal-Mart for conducting union bashing seminars during “safety meetings” for underpaid employees?

Wal-Mart was cited for 4,000 labor law violations under Clinton’s labor dept..
Less than 100 under Bush.

Do the math.

— Garrison
2:12 pm July 14th, 2009

If I want to join a union in my workplace, it should be my private decision to vote to do so. I don’t want some pro-union thug leaning on me and my coworkers and threatening our health and well-being. And don’t think they wouldn’t do that either. I have to deal with many union contractors in my line of work, and I can tell you first hand some of the things they do, such as demanding that two electricians be present and $150/hr to stand and watch while we plug in equipment, ordering work stoppages if someone walks onto the site with a screwdriver and the wrong color hardhat, refusing equipment deliveries to the construction site by non-union shipping companies, and stealing and damaging equipment if they don’t get awarded a bid. Considering that the mafia is alive and well in the laborers’ unions and everyone knows it, don’t you think people would be intimidated and fearful to vote their true feelings in an open forum?

— cjstl
2:20 pm July 14th, 2009

As an employee who has been subjected to union organizing efforts in the past, I can speak with experience on this issue.
Under the current process, when the pro-union folks show up agitating for union organization, I can say sure, I’ll sign that card - knowing that I am going to vote No in the secret ballot. When an over-bearing boss tell me “Your job is at stake if you support the union”, I can tell him, I understand his position - knowing that I am sure to vote “Yes” on the union organization. The union folks don’t know my vote, my boss doesn’t know my vote - I get to maintain my privacy and security.
Under the so-call “Employee Free Choice Act” - that privacy and security gets taken away. If I tell the union folks I won’t sign their card - they know immediately that I oppose the union, and I’m left subject to their ostracism and retaliation - and don’t even try to say that it doesn’t happen because I’ve seen it. If I sign the card, my name shows up on the list of union supporters, and the over-bearing boss knows it - leaving me subject to his acts of retaliation.
The only thing that protects the individual is the secret ballot - and it’s precisely because of this protection that the Union’s want to kill it - they aren’t interested in protecting the individual, they are interested in the group.

— BeenThereBefore
2:35 pm July 14th, 2009

It takes 3 workers out of 10 employees to demand a secret ballot under EFCA.
If 10 employees can’t sit down after work and discuss this over a couple of beers, then they deserve substandard pay and government healthcare.

— Garrison
2:45 pm July 14th, 2009

It’s all about money and power. They are looking to expand their base, get union dues, pay the leaders, and send more funds to the every growing government. A bunch of bullcrap!! I’ll keep my money and guns - you can keep your change.

— Amy
3:11 pm July 14th, 2009

Perhaps you are familiar with the Bill of Rights and have heard of the Freedom of Association? Do potential members of the Republican or Democratic Party, Lions Club, or members of the NRA have to vote in a secret ballot election? Obviously not, all they have to do is to sign a card stating they want to be a member. The supposedly secret ballot election has turned into a gauntlet designed to give the employer at least 45 days to intimidate and threaten their employees from exercising their constitutiional right to Freedom of Association. If employers are now willing to give employees representatives (unions) equal access on company property, equal time to counter the “captive” audience meetings mandatorily enforced by the employer, and agree not to fire employees for attempting to exercise their constitutional rights then this legislation would not be needed. Unfortunately, I don’t see the Chamber of Commerce and the other Big Business front groups agreeing to this. As a matter of fact, isn’t the chamber just a “union” of businesses? I wonder if the participating businesses has a secret ballot election? Could it be that they like their union but don’t want the average citizen to enjoy the same right?

— DG
3:14 pm July 14th, 2009

Richard: so how would the employees decide whether they want a secret ballot or a card check? Would they “take a vote”? Would they get a secret ballot on that? Or not? The secret ballot and one vote per person are critical for preserving the rights of individuals in a free society.

— MC Yammer
3:51 pm July 14th, 2009

Where is the “Freedom of Association” written in the Bill of Rights?

I am confused.

— Wally
4:51 pm July 14th, 2009

Kinder and Loudon are idiots! Why would you not want to help strengthen the Middle Class and help get the states unemployment numbers down by creating more Union jobs that are stable!

— CWA
5:04 pm July 14th, 2009

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