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12.01.2008 1:44 pm

Can Mizzou beat Oklahoma?

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THE WATERCOOLER
(Post-Dispatch columnists and beat writers share their thoughts on a question of the day.)

Question: Does Mizzou stand any chance against Oklahoma in this Saturday’s Big 12 title game? Why or why not? And how about a final score?

BERNIE MIKLASZ
Mizzou is facing a long night at Arrowhead. No chance. OU is highly motivated to advance to the national championship game. And on top of that, coach Bob Stoops and the Sooners will want to shut up critics who insist that Texas should be in this game instead. On the Mizzou side, Gary Pinkel has never beaten a team of Oklahoma’s caliber, and the Tigers are hopeless on defense. At least the parking lots will empty early. Final score: Oklahoma 62, Missouri 28.

BRYAN BURWELL
Of course they have a chance. It’s a slim one because the Sooners are playing as good as any team in the country right now, and Mizzou historically does not do well against OU’s bigger and more physical players. But under Bob Stoops, OU does have a habit of losing at least one big game that they shouldn’t, so maybe this is that one. Final score: Oklahoma 61, Mizzou 35.

JOE STRAUSS
Mizzou has an outstanding chance if Jeremy Maclin’s hip heals, Chase Daniel finds a cure for happy feet against the Sooner defensive front, the Tiger special teams go crazy, Coach P. doesn’t leave timeouts on the clock, Sam Bradford can’t hold the ball and Benny Hinn lays hands on the secondary. Oklahoma is good enough to compete in the SEC, maybe even beat Alabama (but not Florida). It’s going to take more than a few “nifty ball plays” for the Tigers to avoid tumbling from the Top 25. In a closer than expected outcome: Sooners 41, El Tigres 27. Remember the Alamo!!!

JIM THOMAS
When I watch the Mizzou defense, I feel like I’m watching the Rams. Namely, blitzes that don’t get there and lots of blown coverages in the secondary, complete with defensive backs pointing aimlessly into space, wondering what happened. Can’t see Mizzou hanging with this bunch. Final score: Oklahoma 52, Mizzou 24.

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MIDDAY HEADLINES AND QUESTIONS TO PONDER

PLAX SURRENDERS: New York Giants wide receiver Plaxico Burress surrendered to police in Manhattan today to face a charge of handgun possession. Burress turned himself in three days after a gun he was allegedly carrying discharged and wounded him in the leg while he was at a New York nightclub. According to the New York Times Web site, Burress didn’t have a license to carry a gun in New York or New Jersey, where he lives. New York state law carries a sentence of up to 15 years for anyone convicted of carrying a weapon without a permit if it’s determined the person was going to use the weapon to harm someone, and up to seven years if intent to use can’t be proved. (More on Plax below)

MORE MASON TO COME? As reported by Jeremy Rutherford in today’s Post-Dispatch, Blues goalie Chris Mason has allowed just four goals on 134 shots in his past four games, lowering his goals-against average to 2.29 from 3.59 and improving his save percentage to .928 from .878. Against Atlanta on Sunday, he surrendered two goals on 30 shots, perhaps making a case to be the regular starter. Blues management and coaches were not happy with comments regular starter Manny Legace made after Saturday’s 4-2 loss to Edmonton. “I need some help out there,” Legace said. (Now I know the defense hasn’t played great of late, but I’m thinking a goalie needs to be worried more about what’s getting behind him than what’s going on in front of him.)

FAN FOR LIFE, AND DEATH: According to the Associated Press, lifelong Red Sox fans can now take their love of the team to the next level — eternity. A Massachusetts funeral home recently took delivery of the first Red Sox casket, which features the team logo on the exterior as well as the inside. Bob Biggins, co-director of Magoun-Biggins Funeral Home in Rockland, told The Boston Globe that families in mourning often want their loved ones buried with favorite items. In the past that’s included Red Sox paraphernalia; the casket takes it to the next step. (How long until the Yankees offer a similar casket with the words “Boston sucks even here” on it in an effort to continue taunting Bosox fans on the Other Side.)

IRISH WAKE: Can anyone explain to me what the heck has happened at Notre Dame? How does a school with that much history and tradition finds itself a mediocre-at-best program? Charlie Weis has seven years remaining on a 10-year contract and it’s looking like the ax could fall on him any day. Bob Davie obviously wasn’t the guy to follow Lou Holtz. Ty Willingham did alright but got chased quickly from South Bend. Are there any logical reasons this school can no longer recruit like it once did? And is there a high-profile, successful coach out there that would come to a school where so much is demanded from the football program and so much needs to be done to get them on course? I’m throwing this one to the masses because all the experts I listen to sure don’t seem to have the answers.

ALL HAIL THE CHIEFS: Rams fans should be elated with the Kansas City Chiefs victory on Sunday. That brings the Chiefs record even with the Rams at 2-10 — for those keeping track for 2009 draft purposes. Better yet, the Chiefs are showing signs of improvement, so the Rams may yet move ahead of them in the draft order. Since the Rams still go head-to-head with the 2-10 Seahawks, it’s a toss-up who wins that draft battle. I think it’s safe to say the 0-12 Lions have secured the No. 1 pick (with Matt Millen gone, any chance they still take another WR?). And at 1-10-1 and showing no pulse, the Bengals would have to be the frontrunner for the second pick. So the Rams could be looking at anywhere from picks 3 through 6. If they do as well at next year’s draft as they did with Chris Long at No. 2 last year, perhaps there is a ray of light.

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SOME THINGS I THINK I THINK

ANQUAN’S THE MAN: There are players who want to tell you how good they are (think T.O., Ocho Stinko), and then there are players who just show you how good they are. One that clearly falls into the Show Me category is Arizona WR Anquan Boldin.

Boldin, you may recall, showed up at training camp this year and lashed out at the club for failing to follow through on what he said was a promise for a new deal. (Notice though, that he SHOWED UP at camp.) No new deal was forthcoming. Boldin, one of the league’s most consistent receivers in recent years, didn’t sulk like many of today’s athletes are apt to do, vowing instead that his unhappiness with his contract wouldn’t affect his play.

And you know what? It hasn’t. Through this weekend’s games Boldin leads all WRs in the NFL with 11 touchdown receptions (his more heralded teammate Larry Fitzgerald is tied for second with four other receivers at eight), he ranks fourth in receptions at 78 and ranks seventh in total receiving yards at 942.

Oh, did I forget to mention that Boldin is doing his job weekly with eight plates in his face and wiring in his jaw. Boldin missed two and half weeks after he suffered a fractured sinus and other facial injuries following a fierce hit by the New York Jets’ Eric Smith on Sept. 28 — a hit that cost Smith a $50,000 fine and a one-game suspension. Boldin underwent surgery, with doctors inserting eight plates to repair his face and wiring to align his bite — yet he has still found a way to play.

“I’m still in awe of what he does on a weekly basis, and what he’s done since he’s come back from that injury,” quarterback Kurt Warner said. “Just a special individual.” I couldn’t agree more, Kurt.

Teams can come up with marketing campaigns like “Bring It” all they want — and every club in every league does it — but I contend that if you had more players that “bring it” with the heart and skill that Boldin does week in and week out, perhaps you’d put fannies in the seats without the catchy slogans. Boldin should provide gut-check fodder for every player in the NFL.

If I could have one WR to build a team around, Boldin would be the man. You got somebody better? Make your case.

POOR PLAX: If someone were seriously injured after an incident like this, I wouldn’t touch it. But since Burress apparently walked into court Monday without as much as a limp, according to reports, I can’t help myself. It’s easy to become immune to news about athletes smacking women around or spitting in their faces at nightclubs, or athletes involved in shootings that leave people paralyzed, or even athletes convicted of murder. It’s all happened in recent years, some times repeatedly. So I guess the only thing I can say about the alleged Plax shooting is this: At least he hurt no one but himself … perhaps that kind of self-policing can be the best thing for sports’ bad boys.

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STAT OF THE DAY

GUESS THAT QUARTERBACK: A former Pro Bowler put up these numbers yesterday — 15 of 21 passing for 125 yards, two interceptions, and zero TDs. No, it’s not Marc Bulger. Those are the stats of once-mighty Indianapolis Colts’ quarterback Peyton Manning. RB Joseph Addai can’t stay healthy (sound familiar?) and WR Marvin Harrison is getting old (sound familiar?) And in the wake of that, Manning is starting to look rather ordinary.

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If OU has 4 turn overs the first 4 times they get their hands on the ball & MU Scores 6 will MU win.

Hope springs eternal!!!!

— TimB
2:20 pm December 1st, 2008

Sure, Missouri can win, and Marc Bulger is the best QB in the NFL! I hate to say it, but Mizzou has no chance.

— Gordon Breeding
2:56 pm December 1st, 2008

For Mizzou to beat OU, they will need to return every kickoff return for a TD to keep up with OU…the most glaring weakness that OU has is the kickoff coverage…OU defense also tends of have trouble against a QB that can scramble, so, if Mizzou and get the OU secondary and linebackers to go downfield, Chase should be able to get some first downs with his feet.

— Brian
3:14 pm December 1st, 2008

Irish wake
“Are there any logical reasons this school can no longer recruit like it once did?”

No, there aren’t. Look at the #2 ranking of last year’s class, only behind Alabama who took about 10 more recruits.

— Scott
3:38 pm December 1st, 2008

I was really high on this Mizzou team, and Chase Daniel, at the beginning of the year, but it’s become quite obvious they were both over-hyped. Chase hasn’t proven he can win a “big” game yet and has rightfully slipped from the Heisman race. And Pinkel hasn’t shown he has the Tigers ready to “play with the big boys”.
Unfortunately they don’t stand a chance this weekend, and losing by only 40 will be a miracle if they play like they did Saturday against Kansas.

— MOfaninAZ
3:42 pm December 1st, 2008

After last week (KU) and this week (OU) Pinkel should give his raise back! I never have figured out what he did to deserve it.

— RichG
4:06 pm December 1st, 2008

I’d love to see it, but I don’t see how MU can get it done. MU is a very good team and there is always a possibility.

Mike

— Mike K
4:44 pm December 1st, 2008

Notre Dame’s recruiting class last year was number 1, the year before was at least top 5, and next year is a proposed number 2 behind Alabama. Their facilities now are second to none and the last several years they have been able to get top recruits. Recruiting is not the problem. Coaching, however, is another story. Imagine how bad they would be if they didn’t have talented recruits.

— TF
5:07 pm December 1st, 2008

Everybody, you’re all ignoring some basic facts here. First, Oklahoma has a very poor defense. In fact, it may have the worst defense of any national championship contender in recent memory. Secondly, it has a terrible kick coverage team, and it has yet to face Jeremy Maclin, who gives them fits. Yes, Oklahoma beat Oklahoma State by 20 points. However, seven of those points came on a bizarre tipped pass over the middle, and another seven points came on a shortened field in the final minute. And, if Bradford doesn’t pick up his own fumble on fourth-and-goal and run it in, they lose another seven points. If Daniel is hot, if the pro-Mizzou crowd gives us a huge home-field advantage, and if Mizzou plays as it did against Nebraska and Colorado, the Tigers can play with any team in the country. The key is this: Which Mizzou team will show up?

— SeattleMizzouMark
5:27 pm December 1st, 2008

Mizzou has had enough practice on Oklahoma.They could possibly pull it off.

— Teerry Gee
5:38 pm December 1st, 2008

Can Mizzou beat Oklahoma?

Absolutely!

Mizzou has one of the top debate teams in the Big 12 Confer…

Oh, you meant football?
Sorry about that.

No chance.

— Rich
6:06 pm December 1st, 2008

Good god people. Go back to the hole you’ve been hiding in the past 60 weeks. Where were you when Mizzou reeled off 21 ot of 25, best in the BCS over two years? when Mizzou reeled off 10 straight wins against North teams, by an average score of 51-15?

The question can be answered pretty simply: Oklahoma is a better football team, and will likely beat Mizzou. That’s it!

All the people that want to pile on this team and their coach have lost their minds. I’ve heard some idiotic things so far on here.
1. Daniel is overated and can’t win the big game. that’s fricking laughable. He did single-handedly win last year’s Border War… which… as people forget, was the BIGGEST GAME IN THE HISTORY OF BOTH THE MU AND KU PROGRAMS… and gave Mizzou their first #1 overall ranking since 1960.
2. Pinkel didn’t deserve a contract extension. What did he deserve then? This man came to a sunken, beaten, destroyed program. It was hopeless. He has lifted them from the football graveyard… not just to relevance, but national prominence. they have Heisman contenders, and broken records, and division championships. Things we could only dream of in the 80s and 90s.

The same (expletive) posters, that are spewing their hatred of the Mizzou program on here in these comments, are the same (expletive)’s that make losing a culture.

MISSOURI TIGERS FOOTBALL, HOME OF
2007 Big 12 North Champions
2008 Big 12 North Champions
Greatest QB in mizzou history: Chase Daniel
Greatest Reciever in Mizzou history: Jeremy Maclin
Greatest TE in Mizzou History: Chase Coffman

21 wins past 2 seasons… 2nd MOST in BCS
5-1 against rivals Illinois, KU and Nebraska

Cotton Bowl Champs

Numerous Records - too many to count

oh yeah… and WE STILL HAVE THE BEST PART OF OUR SEASON IN FRONT OF US.

BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP, AND A POSSIBLE BIRTH IN THE BCS

— Terry
7:59 pm December 1st, 2008

Nice comments, Terry, and I partially agree with your assessment of the program over the past few years, BUT… Offensive records aside, the only thing that puzzles me more than this team’s lack of success in the “big game” is the shutout of Colorado this year.

Where did THAT team’s defensive unit/effort go the rest of the season? Was Colorado really that bad, or did MU just play that good a game?

I’ve been watching MU football very closely this year, and, being an alum (’85) can say that I’ve watched some pretty poor teams since my days on campus.

That said, I can confidently make the following observations of this year’s team:

#1 - The offense isn’t nearly as effective without Chase Coffman in the lineup. Saunders drops too many big passes, Alexander doesn’t run precise routes and gets knocked off the ball too easily, leaving poor Maclin to face double coverage far too often without Coffman on the field. Without him in the lineup, it’s going to be a LONG game against OU.

#2 - Can anyone seriously explain why it seems that there is always at least one opposing receiver WIDE open, and if an opposing quarterback has a decent arm and field vision, he can literally destroy the MU secondary? Again, outside of the Colorado game, has ANY team had trouble picking apart the secondary? I was at the University of Buffalo game, and #21 put up phenomenal numbers against us! It’s just frightening what can happen in the passing game to this team’s defense.

#3 - Oklahoma has averaged 54 points over 12 games this year and I hate to say it, much of that was through the air. If I was Bob Stoops, you can bet that I’d be working a whole new group of passing plays into the game plan… It could get ugly, FAST.

Do I hope MU puts on a good show in the Big-12 title game? You bet! Do I expect it to be respectable? I’m sorry to say… no.

Coach Pinkel, please prove me wrong!

— SMH
8:30 pm December 1st, 2008

I love Mizzou football, but there isn’t anyway the Tigers can compete with Oklahoma this year. It’s ironic, last year our only two loses came by way of the Sooners, Texas and Texas Tech could be destroy us, we should be thankful. Oklahoma 54 - Mizzou 12

— Alex
9:37 pm December 1st, 2008

I was at the game on Saturday, I am a proud Mizzou alum, a rabid Tigers fan, and a financial supporter of the University. I was shocked and upset with the way the game went on Saturday and like many others in attendance, on this board, on talk radio and so, I first questioned the contract extension given to Coach Pinkel days before the game. Much of the drive home I discussed this exact topic in the car. My thoughts are first and foremost, Coach Pinkel has recruited several very talented players over the years, several have gone into the NFL via the draft or free agency. Brad Smith, Will Franklin, Brad Ekwuaku, Justin Gage, X Jackson, Chase Coffman, Chase Daniel, Chase Patton, Jeremy Maclin, Sean Weatherspoon and others have already been in the NFL or have a good chance to be in the next couple of years (daniel and patton will most likely receive tryouts). I consider these recruits a huge improvement over the prior 20 years. Mizzou has won the Big 12 North in back to back years, that is a huge improvement. Mizzou beat Nebraska IN Nebraska, that is a huge improvement. We have played in what 5 bowl games in the last 6 years, that is huge improvement. The University is earning more revenue from the football program than ever before, I call that huge improvement.

The bottom line is Mizzou could have let Coach Pinkel wait until his contract was set to expire to re-up it, but at that point his hometown/dream job could be offering more. At that time other universities with more to offer than Mizzou could be offering more. While I am dissapointed with the loss to Kansas and the play against OSU and Texas, I am extremely pleased with the last 4 years.

— 123Man
9:50 pm December 1st, 2008

Good God….I would love to sample some of that Kool-Aid some of you are drinking. Tigers have no chance, just hope they dont get to embarrassed.

We have gone from the Cotton, Alamo, Gator bowl to something along the lines of the Liberty, Insight.com bowls.

However, it is still better than the Widenhofer and Stull eras

— jc
10:02 pm December 1st, 2008