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03.18.2009 1:49 pm

Will Wellemeyer’s arm hold up in 2nd season as starter?

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THE WATERCOOLER

QUESTION: Todd Wellemeyer pitched 191 innings last season, more than double the number of innings he’d ever pitched at the major league level. He went 13-9 with a 3.71 ERA, exceeding most expectations. Do you see the innings load becoming a problem for Wellemeyer, or should he only get stronger in his second season as a full-time starter?

JOE STRAUSS
Wellemeyer missed a start last June with an elbow impingement, making his 191 innings even more impressive. Barring a recurrence of elbow problems, 190 innings is certainly realistic. He continues to improve his curveball. This is his walk year entering free agency. Plenty of reasons to expect a solid second act.

BERNIE MIKLASZ
Wellemeyer had to go on the DL with an inflamed elbow in 2007, after he’d been converted to starter. Last season he avoided the DL, but did have minor elbow problems, and he was held out of the rotation for a couple of turns in June. The elbow may have bothered him some in July, when Wellemeyer had an ERA of 5.88 in six starts. But he finished strong. I was surprised that Wellemeyer overcame the issue as well as he did; he had a 3.01 ERA and allowed a batting average of .234 over his final 13 starts.

Has he learned to pace himself instead of maxing out on every pitch? That’s the question. Either way, I think the Cardinals will manage Wellemeyer well enough to keep him reasonably healthy. They have to be prudent. Last year I believe Wellemeyer pitched a couple of times when he was less than fully sound, and in one of those starts he took a horrific beatdown from the Phillies at Busch Stadium on June 13. After that, he didn’t pitch again for two weeks. That was smart. And I think the Cardinals will be more careful in 2009. If so, he should be fine.

DERRICK GOOLD
One of the accepted rules of thumb when it comes to pitchers is they break down the year after a career-push of innings. A notable exception: Braden Looper. After the making the leap into the rotation in 2007 the career reliever threw 199 innings in 2008. He didn’t have the lag expected and pitched not only stronger but better. In many ways, Wellemeyer is Looper. Strong. Durable frame. He’s conditioned now as a starter. The evidence sayS Wellemeyer will have trouble the year after packing on the innings. The eye says Wellemeyer will pull a Looper.

RICK HUMMEL
Not having pitched many innings earlier in his career actually should benefit Wellemeyer, who is strong enough to handle a big workload. If he pitches well, he should make 200 innings. If he doesn’t, he still gets $4 million, but doesn’t get 200 innings.

JEFF GORDON
I believe he can be the same type of pitcher he was last year. He is a big, strong guy. In the past, he hurt himself by overthrowing against top hitters. Dave Duncan has convinced him to pace himself, throw with less velocity and concern himself more with movement and pitch location. That new approach ought to keep him on the mound.

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Here we go…optomistic homerism at it’s finest: we get 15+ wins from Carp, Waino and Lohse…10+ from the Colonel and Joe-El…less than 15 blown saves and we’re in it!!!

— ExistentialHumanist
3:46 pm March 18th, 2009

Derrick,

I think that accepted rule of thumb really pertains more to pitchers under the age of 25. I’ve read there is a physical change in the human body after the normal growth stage that lessens the chance of arm injury due to an increased load. I’m with the commish on this one.

— DizzyDean17
4:04 pm March 18th, 2009

Here we go, another idiot calling Wainwright a nickname he’s not endorsed and actually dislikes.

If you can’t spell his last name, just call him Adam, would you please?

— shirsch
5:04 pm March 18th, 2009

Wainwright…there you go. Now you can come down off that high horse of yours and hang out with the rest of us peons.

— ExistenialHumanist
7:20 pm March 18th, 2009

First off… it’s ExistenTial, not Existenial smart mouth. let me guess. Now go live the rest of your godless life under the rock you crawled out from.

— The Drake
9:51 pm March 18th, 2009

I’m with the existenTial humanist on this one. There are, as usual, an awful lot of optimistic “ifs” on this team. Do I hope they happen? Sure. Realistically, can you expect them to? Nope…anyway, I’d say shirsh and drake might consider visiting their doctors, and getting some chill-pills. The hostility wasn’t exactly warranted. I mean, calling someone an “idiot” because they used a nickname, that like it or not, is in wide use for Wainwright. Or to put it another way, do you think Joe Medwick requested “Ducky” as a nickname?

— Sudsy11
8:10 am March 19th, 2009

Waino………Not everyone completely likes their nicknames. It’s not like he’s going to go up to Waino and call him that. I guess you type Laughing Out Loud instead of LOL too?

And Drake if you were to look at his first post, Existen spelled it right. Heaven forbid someone isn’t of your caliber and has a typo.

I was expecting Looper to have his arm issues last year, but as mentioned by DG (wow I hope he doesn’t mind….) Looper remained strong. I think with Welley’s (uh oh) youth he might be able to remain considerably healthy. I still have that concern however, but hopefully TLR, Dunc, & Moz (wow just full of them today) are going to keep sharp attentative eyes on the issue.

— JonnyG
9:05 am March 19th, 2009

By the way…my life’s not “godless”. I’m a Spiritual Humanist which is pretty close to agnostic…I believe the Infinite will shine upon my Redbirds this season. Can’t wait until April! GO CARDS!!!

— ExistentialHumanist
11:54 am March 19th, 2009

Agree with Sudsy…the hostility toward Existential is unwarranted. I don’t get the people who think they need to play English teacher on the forums. It implies that they never make a spelling error or typo. And, as it happens, I’ve heard other players on the team call Wainwright “Waino.” Since when do public figures have to endorse their nicknames anyway? Did Albert Pujols endorse the nickname “El hombre”?

Being a big, strong guy, hopefully Wellemeyer can pitch 190+ innings this year. I also hope he can regularly pitch past the 6th inning. Isn’t Looper having shoulder issues this spring? I haven’t read much about it, but have caught a headline or two here and there. Anyone know?

— LPD
12:07 pm March 19th, 2009

Spiritual Humanist?… Is that like military intelligence?

But I digress…. Wellemeyer seems strong.. He a big, beefy guy, who seems to throw with a smooth pitching motion when he’s in his groove. I’m thinking he’ll be fine this year, maybe as good or better than last year…

— cardinals_99
12:27 pm March 19th, 2009

No, I’d say Existential Humanism would be closer to “military intelligence”. The name is a joke in honor of Kurt Vonnegut. There are plenty of variations on Humanism. Saying that all Humanists are atheists would be like saying all Christians are “Papists”…or “fundamentalists”.

— ExistentialHumanist
2:55 pm March 19th, 2009