This is just another political attempt at restricting access to the labor market. This is done to depress wages it is an illegal attempt to close or restrict the market. This is done by the Republican party because it supports this and other forms of communism. All that matters in that Mr. Vick is good at what he does and should be allowed to rise to his level of incompetance. We are supposed to let the cream rise to the top not impose communist style behaviorism. We suffer much for the cause of capitalism we should never be denied it benefits in the name of employer supported communism. Remember it is the employers that are supporting socialism in Mexico, South America, China, and Vietnam.

Erick Dickerson HANDS DOWN Best back I have evr senn besides Gale Sayers

Dude, make sense. What the….

He has access to the labor market, but he is not guaranteed access to being employed by a football team.

I’m a little in shock of what I just read.

If the league bans leather, and refuses advertising any meat based products, then they’d have good cause to ban the Vicker. But since they don’t, lace em up, you’re back in the game.

“He made a horrible choice”

Baloney.

Go back and refresh your memory of his actions. He was the key figure of an extensive interstate dog fighting ring.

The indictment charged that he “executed approximately eight dogs that did not perform well in ‘testing’ sessions by various methods, including hanging, drowning and/or slamming at least one dog’s body to the ground.” He was also alleged to have been involved with the killing of a losing dog by electrocution in 2003.

This man is the scum of the Earth. I don’t know however, that that excludes him from playing in the NFL.

First of all, Michael….I don’t even know what to say to that. I was convinced you were being sarcastic and ironic and was looking for the punchline, but I realized you were actually serious…wow.

Second of all, Vick should be reinstated, but no teams should be forced to take him. This isn’t collusion, just teams weighing the price of the media show that will follow and PETA and fans up in arms. Teams at the bottom of the food chain should seriously consider him, because fans picketing can’t hurt them too much and the media blitz may actually even help.

Like has been said before, he has paid his debt. Now he should be allowed to resume employment, if a team will take a chance on him. I love dogs, but there is no way a dog’s life should mean more than a human being. If we will forgive and move on when a football player kills a human being (accident or not, you can still control whether or not you get behind the wheel of a car after drinking), we should be able to forgive and move on when it’s a dog.

And that’s my $0.02…

Yes..he should be free to go back now…He had indeed paid a very heavy price already…Give him a BREAK…This thing has gone too far…I’d been in S.Korea once..There was a long street,about 3 blocks long,full of restaurants that sell nothing but dog meats.Send those dog activist over there..Loving dog and animal is a very good thing,but don’t go too far,and don’t try to slam a bunch of BS politics into it..for God sake.

I would also add…

I’m not saying that he should continue to be incarcerated, or criminally punished. He has, indeed, paid the debt that society said was appropriate.

And Leonard Little - his was a dumb, stupid thing to do, and he got away with far too little punishment. But there is a difference between a stupid (and avoidable) accident that takes someone’s life (Susan Gutweiler) - and deliberately beating, torturing, and killing animals because they do not fight up to your expectations.

He is scum.

My opinion is that Michael Vick should not be reinstated ever. Some say he paid a “heavy price” already but the cruelty that he rained down upon those poor animals is unforgivable and unredeemable. Besides what an awful message that sends to young children who look up to so called “sports heros”. Vick is a sick, greedy individual who they should have kept in prison. At the very least, he should never be allowed to own or keep animals again. It’s not just the violence of the dog fights, but the horrible things that were done to the dogs, including neglect and other abuse. Someone who is abusive to animals, will be abusive to women and children too. He makes me sick.

Personally I don’t think he should return. Because of the money to be made playing in the NFL is a privilege. Yes Leonard Little killed someone, but that was an accident. Vick made this his choice. Along with that choice he then lied and denied to NFL authorities repeatedly about the situation. By all means let him work a regular job somewhere, but he should lose his chance to play in the NFL again.

WOW! I guess since everyone put their $0.02 in I might as well also. If Vick is able to reinstated to football and have a chance to rehabilitate himself to the point of being idolized by kids all around the world for his football after what he has done. In all fairness, one might consider forgiving OJ, McGuire, Pete Rose, etc…. for their sins. But obviously some people still have specs in their eyes and do not see clearly. The only thing Mark McGuire did was not answer a question and he will pay the rest of his life for that. Mark brought baseball back.

As far as rehabilitation, Vick has had none. He has not paid anything back to society. To my knowledge he has not attended any anger management classes, sensitivity classes, maturity classes, or anything that would show that he is rehabilitated.

I guess with as much emphasis and scrutiny as society puts on convicted sex offenders, From my understanding and reading of what they must go through (monitoring, classes, registering, and whatever else) I’d put my money on hiring one of them at my business. We, more appropriately, you should take a step back and re-evaluate your hypocritical thinking. This is why our society is so messed up.

It is not a accident that Leonard Little drove drunk. That was a choice he made. Michael Vick chose to get involved with dog fighting, like Little’s choice Vicks choice was illegal. That is why there were legal ramifications.

Our society has mixed values on animals. Some animals like squirles, rabbits, birds, insects and bugs are fine to kill for sport or by accident, or just to make our lives better. Others animals like cows, fish, chickens and pigs are fine to eat. Others though like cats, dogs, and horses people feel differently about. We value those animals more then we do others, however it does not make them superior animals. Had Michael Vick sponsored rat fighting there would have been much less outrage, he would not have gone to prison. Michael obviously does not value a dog as much as many in our society do. I dont think this is a bad thing, I certaily do not value animals as much as PETA does.

Michael Vick should absolutely be allowed to play in the NFL. There should be no discussion. He did the crime, he did the time, let the man get on with his life.

It’s not like the NFL doesn’t have convicted felons in the league anyway. He should be reinstated, he payed his dept to society. Playing in the NFL is about having a skill set, if he has it he should be allowed. If it was about character there would be dozens of players in the NFL without jobs. It will be interesting to see who will take a chance on him.

The answer to the second part of the question is totally up to Vick. He wasn’t a prototypical quarterback to begin with, and his skills have deteriorated. what? Kathleen Nelson. R u Kidding me. He is a starting qb. U dont have a clue.

NO. Do not allow him to return. Many NFL Players are the idols of young children, by allowing him to return would be like telling children that it is okay to fight and abuse dogs and you will pay your time and be allowed to go straight back into fame. No way

Hell yeah,
Tremendous potential, He’ll have to earn his respect back, on the field, but hell yea

Well it didnt take long for the whole to play in the NFL is a privledge not a right bit. Your hear that all the time but to me makes no sense. Paying a membership to a health club and being able to use it thats a privledge, working is not. Most people are more less jealous of the salaries professional athletes make so they deem what they do a priveldge but if you feel that way do you consider your own job a privledge? It is not a right to work in this country but it should be the right of the employer to decide who works for them and if someone deems you good enough to work for them that is not a privledge but at that point it should be your right to follow through and become their employee if you chose to do so. I own a dog who is great and agree what Vick did was wrong but the man served almost 2 years in prison I would say that punishment is more than enough and if some team sees him fit to join their club then who are we to play judge and jury and deny him the oportunity to WORK. Just b/c they make a lot of money doesnt mean its not a job to them, just like u and me, not a privledge.

If he had been convicted of pedophilia, I doubt very many people would claim that it is unfair for the league to keep him out of football after he had served his jail time. I’m not comparing the severity of the crimes, just pointing out that the NFL has an interest in maintaining its brand name. If league officials determine that Mike Vick sullies that brand, of course they have a right not to hire him again. What other business is there that is required to offer employment (and millions of dollars) to otherwise qualified convicted felons? If you think the notion of “justice” in our society is premised on the idea of a post-sentence blank slate, ask yourself why sex offenders are not allowed to live near elementary schools.

NO! He can go get an obscure job somewhere, but he should never be allowed to return. If I had my way, Little would be gone also. His crime was NOT an ACCIDENT. Did he “accidently” get drunk and drive, killing that wife and mother? Did he “accidently” get drunk again three years later and drive again? Picking up the glass is done willfully.

Our children revere our athletes and in no way should any of these felons be held up and cheered. I realize I am just one, but if he is reinstated, I will say goodbye to the National Felons League.

Michael Vick should be reinstated! He has paid is debt to society and will continue to pay because people won’t ever let him forget what he has done. He has had meetings with the President of the Human Society of America and is going to work in a program with adolescents to make them aware of animal cruelty. You people aren’t perfect and we all make mistakes. Some worse than others. Who are we to judge?!! You all welcomed Leonard Little back and he killed a woman. You forget where Michael Vick comes from, dogfighting is indicative of that area. I’m not saying it’s right, but we all have to learn to forgive, especially when a person has paid his/her debt, learns from it, and is able to be an upstanding citizen again. He doesn’t have a license to practice anything. He’s a freaking football player! This society is so hateful. Including all of you that are calling him names on this site. What have you done lately?!!!

I think he should be allowed to play. He paid his debt to society (even though I thought his sentence should have been more), so let him play. I will however, not watch any NFL game that he is playing in, nor will I use any product that advertises while he plays.

I certainly hope that the Rams don’t sign him, since I would hate to have to root for a different team.

I say put him in a pit with 50 of the largest, mean, nonfed (for a week) pitbulls for a minimum of 30 minutes. If he can somehow tame and make friends with every single dog —- then reinstate him.

Economics 101 aside, Vick has paid his debt and should not be punished any further. The NFL is not “denying him access to labor;” he has no right to NFL employment and is free to earn a living elsewhere. I have a feeling that nearly all the teams (except for the Raiders maybe) wouldn’t hire him anyway because of the storm that would follow. Why no complaint about L. Little? Not a national news story and relatively few people even know about it; Vick’s story was transmitted around the world and everyone knows the gory details. If Vick re-emerges in the public eye, his future employer will have to accept the risk. After the cost-benefit analysis, I suspect Goodell will give it the thumbs down. Time to move on

I don’t think Micheal Vick have a right to play football anymore because he lied about the dog fighting going on at his house. I don’t want him ever play the sport again. Amber

dude, Leonard little killed somebody and is still in the league and one barely remembers. Ray Lewis- involved in murder chargers, most people have forgot about that. How many kids look up to ray ray as a player? We’re talking about taking human life and we’re acting like that’s not as big a deal as killing a dog and that vick should be punished for life for this terrible crime. please. I for one do not care one bit because if vick returns to football, in five years. Just like like lil ray ray and leonard. no one is going to remember. It’s sport entertainment and that’s what I pay to watch. Not what these guys do in their spare time.

Michael Vick lives a dream life that thank you lord happened for a dumb, arrogant, piece of shit that knows only one thing in life, “play ball, get the Motts!!” Well, here is what I say, ” Rot in hell you money craven, no good piece of shit!” Challange yourself to something more then the expected!!!!!!!

Never should this ‘POOR EXCUSE’ for a Man (?) get out of prison much less be allowed to play football.

I like what — thatboz said, put the scumbag in a pit with hungry dogs and let them have at him…..I’d may even pay to see that.

KATHLEEN NELSON if you are the biggest dog lover on the staff, I would hate to hear the opinion of the biggest ‘dog hater’ on the staff.
When someone takes a human life or animal life out of hate, greed, self satisfaction, then you can figure they are pretty unstable mentally, spiritually, etc…. Just because the Law may not protect abuse of animals as it should, doesn’t mean that the public can’t ostrasize him!
I don’t think that’s being ’stiff necked’ or ‘close minded’ I think it means having ‘high esteem’ for Right & Wrong.

He paid his debt to society. If he’s physically able to play, he should be given the opportunity.

I am stunned and shocked that this is even a topic for discussion. Here in the town where a football player killed a woman and never missed a down and never heard a whimper from the NFL … what the hell? … of course Vick should be reinstated … of course a team should pick him up … of course his endorsements should return.

I am a huge animal lover, especially dogs, but I have to admit that I love people more.

Michael Vick is a scumbag! It’s really that simple. In general, moreover, there’s no way in hell that this man will ever play in the NFL again. It’ll be for liability issues for his safety, more than anything else because someone will take him out for good! I’m talking one of the players because you don’t mess with family, kids or animals! Furthermore, Vick is a moron that got lucky and believe me, he’s as smart as a box of rocks! Quite frankly, I’d enjoy seeing him on the field again for the end results and we all know what I’m talking about here…what a degenerate!

Hell no he should not be reinstated. I watched the premier of the newest Vick news show that let us see exactly what happened to those poor animals. Tears came to my eyes to know just exactly how cruel and heartless this man is. The thought of the ‘doggy-rape’ machine and pulling out their teeth is simply barbaric. I dont care if the man did lose everything he had behind this crime, he put himself in that position. Why should he be allowed to rebuild his ‘empire’ and continue to live the life of luxury? It disgusts me.

Shut up with this “kids will look up to Vick as idol”, blah blah. If your kids are looking up to athletes and entertainers instead of “THEIR PARENTS” then you suck as a parent anyway. Hunting is a sport killing animals every single day but all the dog lovers not protesting about that. Obviously, Vick didn’t give a dam about dogs unlike some do. So he paid a penalty for it but all the upper class humans on this board want to keep their foot on his throat forever because of love for “one animal” but if kill other animals or humans for that matter, then you can be reinstated. Gimmie me a break!

Vick is a loser on & off the field. I personally think he got off way too easy (just like most famous people). I don’t know why anyone would want him… HE’S NOT THAT GOOD!!! The $100 million Atlanta gave him is even more ridiculous than the $65 mill the Rams gave Bulger.

It’s a moot point. Vick is your basic degenerate who will make more “poor choices” (liberalese for participating in criminal behavior) between now and the opening of training camps. Any owner willing to even consider taking him on is a moron.

Lefty

No, he should not be reinstated, yes let him prove that he has been reformed by letting him rejoin society, and keep a watch on him, but that should not include rewarding him by ever letting him take another nfl snap, and dont kid yourself, if hes willing to hang or slam kill dogs hes just as willing to kill a human whom he feels threatened by in any way , this man is a violent criminal, period

HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Should Vick have a second chance? Absolutely not. What he did to the dogs is incomprehensible. He is very lucky to have a job, with a construction company, unlike many decent people who are currently unemployed.And it is not like he is destitute. It has been reported he hid hundreds of thousands of dollars before going to prison. He didnt give the dogs a second chance, before torturing and killing them, why should he have a second chance at fame and fortune.

I feel Michael Vick should be reinstated to the NFL.
I would especialy like to see him in the Blue/Gold of the Rams. As far as holding high standards and not allowing him on our team Gordo said it best i.e. Leonard Little, enough said. He murdered and then DWI’d again! Vick will make it exciting again to watch. I have listened to the argument that the falcons have done well lately with out him. This is true however only 10 of the orginal Vick players are still with the team. Give Vick say a talented cast to work with along with competent Off. Cordinator and we could be hosting a NFC Championship again. The man has learned his lesson. The last place he wants to go back to is prison. This man is going to be a hungry player since all he has been doing is working out and running. He will be looking to redeem his life and career. After watching Bulger attempt to scramble out of the pocket, the thought of Vick running a 4.3 “40″ sounds to good to be true. I think Bulger is a super person and class act, however his lack of mobility and slow release is only going to add to his sacks, cuncussions etc. Trade him while we can get something for him.