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05.14.2009 11:28 am

Sidney Crosby or LeBron James?

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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THE WATERCOOLER

QUESTION:Sidney Crosby helped the Penguins reach the Eastern Conference Finals with a win over the Caps in Game 7 on Tuesday. Is Crosby, in his fourth year, more important to the NHL than LeBron James, in his sixth year, is to the NBA?

BERNIE MIKLASZ:
Not a chance. Round 2 should get 2 minutes for instigating me. Crosby has yet to establish a wide crossover appeal, while LeBron is already a marketing King, easily identifiable to millions of Americans. Also, Crosby has no personality. Quiet. He isn’t inclined to sell the game. Helluva player, immense talent but not even a blip on the radar when compared to James.

TOM TIMMERMANN:
The NHL is far more in need of talented, charismatic players like Crosby than the NBA is. (Especially English speaking ones.) The NHL has a much smaller pool of Crosby-esque players to draw from. Without James, the NBA has several other players to build an ad campaign around — Kobe Bryant, arrest not withstanding, Dwayne Wade, somebody off Boston, for starters. Wayne Gretzky made the NHL what it is today, even playing in Edmonton. Crosby isn’t Gretzky, but he’s the kind of player the league needs at the moment. Language barriers will keep Malkin and Ovechkin and Datsyuk from being the face of the NHL.

JEFF GORDON:
Sid the Kid’s importance to the NHL is much greater. True, the NBA needs LeBron to become the Next Jordan and keep pro basketball industry growing through these tough economic times. He is the league’s most important employee. But the NHL’s need for a transcendent star is much greater. Gary Bettman’s league is still off on the fringe of the national sports scene, earning scant TV ratings. If current trends continue, pro hockey could lose its tenuous footing in the Sun Belt. The NHL needs Crosby-Ovechkin to become Magic-Bird.

DAN O’NEILL:
The biggest difference between Sidney Crosby and LeBron James is that James carries more responsibility in terms of being the face of the NBA. Crosby may or may not be the best player in the NHL - I’d take Pavel Datsyuk myself. Regardless, there are a number of other equally dynamic stars, from Alexander Ovechkin, Evgeni Malkin, Patrick Kane, Henrik Zetterberg, Datsyuk … on down to even T.J. Oshie.

In the NBA, Kobe Bryant might be in the same ballpark talent-wise King James, but Bryant’s image off the court has never been completely restored from his extra-marital incident. There are a handful of other notable NBA players, but when you throw in the age and positive image James projects, I think the NBA clearly leans more heavily on him for profile than the NHL has to lean on Crosby.

Of course, neither holds a candle to what Tiger Woods means to professional golf.

JEREMY RUTHERFORD:
While both superstars are vital to their respective leagues, I give the edge to Crosby. I have friends who are hard-core NBA fans and I have friends who are casual NBA fans and, with either group, we can have a 10-minute conversation about the NBA playoffs and not even bring up LeBron. Meanwhile, I can’t remember my last conversation with an NHL fan that didn’t include some mention of “Sid the Kid.” Here’s a story: My brother had people over to his house to watch last night’s Pittsburgh-Washington game, and we watched even when the score was 5-0. Tonight, they’re are two Game 7s on TV (Boston-Carolina, Anaheim-Detroit) and guess what . . . there’s no get-together at my brother’s tonight. I think all of this speaks to the broader popularity of the NBA and the overall disinterest in the NHL, unless it’s headline-grabbing.


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Lebron is far more important to his league based on the nature of the game itself. Lebron is on the court about 75-85% of the game compared to Crosby’s 30-40%. Crosby wears a helmet so his face is not as easily seen and on a given shift he may not even touch the puck. When Lebron is on the court, the ball is in his hands the majority of every possession. That’s why stars in the NBA are far more marketable and Lebron is more important to the NBA.

— Andrew H
2:21 pm May 14th, 2009

what, exactly is Lebron “King” of anyway? How many rings does he own.

— john
2:22 pm May 14th, 2009

Lebron? Please. What has he done? So he won an MVP. So what? So did Steve Nash for pete sake! I’ll take Kobe, keep the “King”.

— Matt
2:34 pm May 14th, 2009

“True, the NBA needs LeBron to become the Next Jordan”

Then the NBA is in some trouble, because there will never be another player as skilled or clutch as Michael was.

LeBron only has 2 3-peats, a decade of scoring titles, a gold medal, and a perennial invite to the all defensive team to start to compare. Some he may get, but not all.

Michael was the complete package, and we were lucky to get even one.

— AJ
3:12 pm May 14th, 2009

I didn’t know they were debating Lebron vs. Kobe, you numbskulls. But while we’re on the subject; Lebron is much more of a complete player as Kobe is. Kobe has been always been surrounded by good players, Lebron? Not so much. Basketball is as much a team sport as any other out there.

— jason
4:03 pm May 14th, 2009

Lebron is far more important than Grosby, the nba is more famous right now in the country than than nhl, and that why lebron is edge here. Another fact is that lebron is now known as the best player ever play this game in history, even mj or kb would no match again this guy. I can give many reason why i said this but for the sake of the time, and i think most basketball fans know about it, only the laker’s and kobe’s fans deny this fact.

— brian
4:04 pm May 14th, 2009

Oh yeah, and Crosby doesn’t have near enough charisma to be the ‘face’ of anything. If I were to choose which player I pay money to watch, Alex Ovechkin gets my hard-earned $$$ whether he speaks good English or not. His talent is universal.

— jason
4:06 pm May 14th, 2009

Which is more important, boll weevils or the planet Jupiter? Who comes up with such irrelevant questions??

— Mark Rutledge
4:26 pm May 14th, 2009

Did Dan O’Neill really just compare Sidney Crosby to TJ Oshie? Have you ever watched a hockey game Dan? Sorry but that is just plain dumb.

— BY
4:42 pm May 14th, 2009

NBA? What’s that?
Who cares about the NBA?

— Bert
4:53 pm May 14th, 2009

what about the two young guys in Chi town…they torched the ‘Nucks

— goski99
5:27 pm May 14th, 2009

lol @ Andrew H,
try not to compare basketball and ice hockey
ice hockey is real man sport, its way tougher and harder than basketball
nothing beats the stanley cup

— joke
5:33 pm May 14th, 2009

I second that.. NBA?? Not even comparable to the athletes in the NHL. They just arent. Just because you were born with genetics that make you 6 to 10 inches taller than the average man doesnt make you a great athlete. Hockey players practice (Sorry Allen Iverson) their behinds off to make a non pampered roster. Charles Barkeley (God bless him) and players of his size are not finesse athletes. They Just stand under a rim and dunk. So lets put these comparisons to rest.

— God
8:00 pm May 14th, 2009

TJ Oshie does not belong in the conversation, O’neil. I’m a big fan of his, but come on.

— Jamie
8:23 pm May 14th, 2009

Lebron is a global icon. Crosby is a star in a fringe sport which airs 95% of their playoff games on Versus. NHL’s “premiere” Caps/Pens series averaged a mere 1.2 million viewers, which is 50% less than the WOMEN’s FINAL 4.

To put that in perspective, Game 7 of the first round Bulls/Celtics series drew 7 million. I like the NHL, but it’s kind of embarrassing that I grew up in a city where the majority of the people are wrapped in the bubble of the 21st sized DMA and are clueless to what is important to the rest of the country.

— joke
8:36 pm May 14th, 2009

Hey joke, I don’t care about the NBA and love hockey. Don’t know where I said I loved the NBA, I just said it’s more marketable. Calm down.

— Andrew H
9:15 pm May 14th, 2009

Basketball, more than any other of the pro team sports, is about the individual player. 2 or 3 guys can win you a championship. (Maybe even 1, if it’s Jordan, or - possibly - LeBron.) Hockey doesn’t work like that.

But the question is about the importance to the league, not the importance to the team. LeBron is great for the NBA, but the NBA is in no danger of contracting or folding. Just turn on SportsCenter on any given night during the season and suffer through endless hoops highlights before you get to see a couple hockey plays in the Top 10. Basketball is fine, with or without LeBron.

The NHL is another story. It needs a young, marketable, English-speaking, outspoken superstar to get non-hockey fans interested in the game. I’m not sure Sidney Crosby is that guy - I love his quiet, blue collar style, as do most hockey fans, but what the league needs is to cast a wider net, and to do that you need personalities.

— Dave
3:54 pm May 18th, 2009