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Picking tonight’s Stanley Cup Game 7 and best Game 7s by sport

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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THE WATERCOOLER:
QUESTION: Pittsburgh is at Detroit in Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals tonight. Who do you like in the game and which is better: a Game 7 in the NHL, NBA or MLB?

BERNIE MIKLASZ:
Pittsburgh-Detroit:
I’d like to make a case for a Pittsburgh upset in Game 7, but Bill Mazeroski doesn’t play hockey. The visiting team hasn’t won Game 7 of a Stanley Cup Final since Montreal went into Chicago Stadium to put away the Blackhawks in 1971, and it won’t happen this time. The only possible way I’d see this happening is if Chris Osgood fell apart in goal for Detroit, but in the 2009 Stanley Cup playoffs he’s 11-1 at home with a .948 save percentage. And Pittsburgh’s Marc Andre-Fleury has had his worst moments of the postseason at Joe Louis Arena; in the first three games there his save percentage is a terrible .857. I just can’t see Detroit’s goaltender or team having the kind of breakdown that would set up a Penguins victory. Pittsburgh’s big stars haven’t showed up so far on the road in this series; Crosby and Malkin have combined for one goal and are a combined minus 6 at The Joe.
Game 7s: As for which sport has the best Game 7 - well, they are all great and lead to intense anticipation, so it comes down to a personal preference. And I’ll take baseball only because of the personal memories that live with me still. And no sport has a richer tradition than baseball.

JEREMY RUTHERFORD:
Pittsburgh-Detroit: I picked Pittsburgh to win the series, and I think a Penguins’ win tonight would be great for the NHL. The league has been bragging about Crosby, Malkin, Staal and Fleury for a couple years, and watching them skate around with the Cup would finally mark a changing of the guard. Having said that, I can’t see Detroit losing Game 7 at Joe Louis Arena. Throughout history, home teams are 12-2 in championship games. I am going to stick with Pittsburgh and be pleasantly surprised if they pull it off.
Game 7s: I don’t think there’s a better spectacle than a Game 7 in the NHL. But I have to be honest: I grew up playing baseball in the sandlots. We set up every situation like it was the seventh game of the World Series. Bruce Sutter …. here’s the pitch …. I’ll go with baseball.

JEFF GORDON:
Pittsburgh-Detroit: The Penguins can only hope to create such a game in Motown and take their chances at the end. But the Red Wings will throw four lines of skill at the pedestrian Penguins defense and try to bust this game open. I don’t see this Pens team holding up under that sort of pressure. Only a miraculous game by goaltender Marc-Andre Fleury can save them.
Game 7s: The NHL Game 7 is better because one bounce of the puck can decide the championship. If two teams are tied late in the decisive game, every shift — every second of every shift — can be agonizingly tense. The puck can hope over a stick and create the decisive break.

TOM TIMMERMANN:
Pittsburgh-Detroit
: When this series began, I said Penguins in 6 after they won one of the first two in Detroit. Well, that didn’t happen, but if they can win Game 7, I’m only off by one game. The odds are certainly against them — home-ice seems to make a difference in this one — but I’m going to stick with the Pens for consistency sake.
Game 7s: I’ve long maintained there is nothing in sports to compare to an NHL postseason overtime. The intensity is constant. An NHL Game 7 is like a 60-minute overtime. Every shift is important. Baseball Game 7’s come one day after Game 6, so there’s less of a buildup, And the pace of NBA games subtracts from the intensity. I’ll take an NHL Game 7.

DERRICK GOOLD:
Pittsburgh-Detroit:
Would love to see former St. Louis Blues p.r. man Frank Buonomo and his Pittsburgh Penguins hoist the Cup tonight, but alas it will Chris Osgood and the Detroit Red Things that skate with Stanley tonight. (And thus usher Osgood into the Hall of Fame, perchance?)
Game 7s: I’ve had the fortune to cover Game 7s in baseball and Game 7s in hockey, including several Game 7s in the Stanley Cup Finals. And while I’ll never forget being knocked in the head by the Stanley Cup as they handed it to Ray Bourque for a sip in the dressing room after Game 7 in 2001, the best Game 7s I’ve ever covered and ever attended have been baseball Game 7s. Give me Game 7, bases loaded, rookie closer on the mound, Shea Stadium over Game 7, Detroit undressing Patrick Roy, Joe Louis Arena any day. So naturally when it comes to choosing the best kind of Game 7, I have to side with … well, venue over sport. A Game 7 at old Busch is going to trump a Game 7 at Pepsi Center (sorry, Denver), but something tells me a Game 7 in Montreal would rival a Game 7 at, say, Chase Field. Why no basketball? Because for me even a Game 7 in the NBA cannot hope to rival the intensity of hockey’s velocity or baseball’s tension in a Game 7. Basketball’s got no shot.

RICK HUMMEL:
Pittsburgh-Detroit:
Home team has won every game in the NHL series and Pittsburgh hasn’t even come close in Detroit. It will be closer tonight but Detroit wins.
Game 7s: Game Seven in baseball is the best because the crowd isn’t as much of a factor and potential influence on officiating as it can be in hockey and basketball.

DAN O’NEILL:
Pittsburgh-Detroit:
I like Pittsburgh tonight. Crosby is due to break out. The Penguins have to avoid a quick start by the Red Wings.
Game 7s: Game 7 in any sport is fabulous theater. I think I would rank Game 7 in an NBA Finals last, unless the St. Louis Hawks are playing the Boston Celtics.

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An NHL game 7 surpasses all other sports because one never knows (or can anticipate) when a team will score. In hockey, a team can play for 60+ minutes and never score a goal. Then when it happens, it’s a complete surprise - there’s no build-up or setting of the stage, it just happens as a series of events come together in the blink of an eye. Thus, it’s unpredictable.

In basketball, there’s nothing magical about the actual act of scoring - we all know it’s going to happen over and over again - it’s just a matter of who scores more often, and most likely last.

In baseball, there’s a lead-up. Runners get on base, scoring situations develop, and a set play tossed in by the manager via the third base coach lead to a run. While it’s true that a walk-off homerun is dramatic and unanticipated, that’s the exception, not the rule in baseball.

All of that aside, one can argue that a power-play is also a type of lead-in to a goal in hockey - but even the best teams only score at the 20%+ rate on the power play. So again, based upon the sheer unpredictability of scoring and not being able to stage drama, an NHL game 7 is far more exciting and heart-stopping than a game 7 in any other sport.

Obviously though, this is just my opinion…

— SleepDoc
10:48 am June 12th, 2009

NHL game 7 all the way. Hockey is much more exciting and fast paced. I totally agree with sleepdoc.

— sludman
11:59 am June 12th, 2009

SleepDoc summed it up perfectly. The unpredictability and constant intensity is why I choose a NHL Game 7 over any other sport and is alway why I enjoy hockey overall compared to any other sport. Basketball definitely doesn’t stand a chance. Even in close games the intensity is sucked out due to all the stoppage and timeouts, which completely takes away from the momentum and drama.

— Ty
12:16 pm June 12th, 2009

Couldn’t have said it better sleepdoc (and niether could alot of sports writers)! All I have to say is ditto!

— thebnote1
1:19 pm June 12th, 2009

Can’t agree with any writer that truly doesn’t fairly discuss all of them. And not to mention do it without bias.

Ask these writers how much they know about the NBA. There’d still be plenty of room in a thimble once you did that. That’s why their opinions mean less than zero about anything tied to basketball. They don’t cover college ball, either.

It’s like asking a chef to fix your car. No clue. I think the STL sports media, since they consistently (1) refuse to cover the game and (2) constantly bash it because of their ignorance of the game, should not be allowed to talk about basketball at all (outside of Cusamano - at least he tries to cover it, unlike the rest of the ENTIRE market). The small amount they do discuss it, they only discuss “opinions” about why they don’t like the game, or they don’t like the players. Note - they don’t like the players in the NBA because they are labelled as prima-donnas. But when players in other sports act in the same way, it’s okay. We’ve got “stars” in this town who act just like that, but the pass is given.

Thus, the sheep (i.e. listenersreaders) follow suit. The only time you hear about basketball at all in this town is for the Braggin’ Rights game and that’s it.

If we were a complete sports town, we’d have quality coverage of the major sports, whether we have a team or not.

— ccccc
1:55 pm June 12th, 2009

I am going to be another one agreeing with hockey as the best game 7. The reason I’m really writing is to comment on Timmerman’s section here.

“The odds are certainly against them — home-ice seems to make a difference in this one — but I’m going to stick with the Pens for consistency sake.”

It seems like a lot of people who make predictions never change them as the series go along even when they are given the chance. Why do people feel like they have to stick with their original instinct? I wouldn’t lose respect for someone thinking Pittsburgh won’t win tonight even though they picked them early in the series. Things change as series progress.

— SDBluesFan
1:57 pm June 12th, 2009

Take SleepDoc’s post - then add OT, over two OTs, or three!

Because hockey is so much more physical than baseball. Because even if you’ve never watched a hockey game in your life, after watching for just 20 minutes, you “get” enough of the game to know when a play is developing. Because the action can go unimpeded for several minutes at a time, the intensity at the beginning of OT in a Game 7 starts at about 9.5 and goes up to 11 everytime a team gets a good chance on net - let alone a chance that beats the goalie only to ring off the post.

To put you in that frame of mind, think back to the Blues/Wings conference semi-final series game 7 in 1996…and Shayne Corson’s knuckler floating over Chris Osgood’s head near the end of the 1st OT. All that breakneck speed suddenly came to a screeching halt - you probably jumped up from where you sitting, trying to will that puck into the freaking net. And when it didn’t go in…they just continued playing, back at breakneck speed.

— RacerX
2:06 pm June 12th, 2009

Brother Bernie, I have to disagree. Hockey has just as rich a tradition as baseball. I love both sports and you are absolutely right when you say it depends on the combatents. I think overall Hockey’s turn on a dime fast paced action makes the late portions of the game more exciting though.

— chris
3:13 pm June 12th, 2009

Hey Rick….see Don Dekinger for officiating influence in baseball…YIKES

— chris
3:14 pm June 12th, 2009

Looking at this ‘article,’ even a casual observer of this site should be able to detect the general incompetence of this staff. 1 for 7 on the predictions as O’Neill’s doesn’t count as his analysis of Crosby breaking out couldn’t have been farther from reality.
See what I mean, fellow readers? These guys have ridiculous difficulty picking ONE GAME, and yet day in and day out, some of them believe they need to be posting columns telling the front offices of local teams who they need to go sign or trade for. Right, they know what’s a good idea for the future of an organization. If I read one more birdland column whining about 3B and Beltre and Atkins and blah blah blah, I swear…..At least most days Miklasz actually tries to think outside the box.

— MikeEmerick
10:36 pm June 12th, 2009