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08.26.2009 12:53 pm

It’s unanimous: Beware the Phillies in playoffs

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THE WATERCOOLER

QUESTION: Assuming the Cardinals make it to the postseason, which National League team do you feel offers the greatest matchup problems for the Redbirds?

BERNIE MIKLASZ
The Phillies. They lead the league in runs, homers and slugging. They’re the best slugging team in the NL against righthanded pitchers, and the Cardinals have a RH rotation. The Phillies’ rotation was upgraded substantially with the addition of Cliff Lee and this is the one playoff-bound NL team that can match up reasonably well with rhe Cardinals’ big three of Chris Carpenter, Adam Wainwright and Joel Pineiro. For some reason, Carpenter hasn’t pitched well in Philly; he has a 6.75 ERA in three career starts at Citizens Bank Park. That said, Wainwright was magnificent there in his only start, and Pineiro hasn’t allowed a run there in two starts. The Phillies rake well at Busch Stadium; Ryan Howard and their big hitters like the place. In 17 games in STL the Phillies have averaged 6.9 runs since Busch opened in 2006. The X factor would be Brad Lidge. The Phillies closer is having a horrible season, and if that continues, the Phillies are vulnerable late.

DERRICK GOOLD
The Phillies. The Cardinals may be 10-2 against lefthanded starters since Matt Holliday arrived, but the Phillies still have lefties like Cole Hamels, Cliff Lee and Jamie Moyer who can tie the Cardinals in knots. Joe Blanton is 2-0 with a 1.93 ERA against the Cardinals this season and they have yet to figure him out. He’s 3-0 with a 1.71 ERA and 14 strikeouts in 21 innings against the Cardinals in his career. Ryan Madson, a late-inning reliever, may be the only Albert Pujols specialist in the game. The Cardinals first baseman is 0-for-10 in his career against Madson. He doesn’t strike out against the righthander, but he doesn’t hit him well either. And that’s all without mentioning what may be the most difficult lineup in the National League to contain. The variety of hitters the Phillies throw at opponents — speed in Victorino, balance in Utley, thunder from Howard and power throughout — makes a lineup with few, if any, cracks. Forget how Howard hits like Roy Hobbs in St. Louis, whether he’s taking aim at a Red Lobster in Ballwin or crushing shots at Busch Stadium. Sure Colorado is playing as well as anyone. Yes, the LA Dodgers have Manny and pitching. Fine, the Giants have a fearsome tandem atop their pitching staff. But the defending champs have more. And Brad Lidge.

RICK HUMMEL
The world champion Phillies. They have the lefthanded-hitting firepower to contend with the Cardinals’ all-righthanded rotation. In five games, four of them wins by the Phillies, Philadelphia has outscored the Cardinals, 40-24.

JEFF GORDON
The Phillies come at you with lefthanded power and switch-hitters. They put up some football scores on the Cards earlier this season, although much of that damage came against guys like Todd Wellemeyer, Josh Kinney and Jason Motte. The addition of Cliff Lee gives them a 1-2 punch to match Chris Carpenter and Adam Wainwright. The only soft spot on that team is Albert’s buddy Brad Lidge. A Phillies-Cards battle in the NLCS would be quite a battle.

GERRY FRALEY
As Ric Flair often said, “to be the man, you’ve got to beat the man.’’ Philadelphia, defending World Series champion, would present the biggest problems for the Cardinals in a post-season series.

LHP Cliff Lee changes the face of what was a mediocre rotation. Since being obtained from Cleveland, Lee is 5-0 with a 0.67 ERA and has allowed more than one run only once.

The Cardinals’ all-RHPs rotation will bring out the best in Phillies 1B Ryan Howard. Howard struggles against lefthanders, but goes into tonight’s play batting .312 with a .692 slugging percentage and 30 homers in 295 at-bats against righthanders.

Of course, this all changes if a Cardinals-Phillies series comes down to Albert Pujols against Philadelphia closer Brad Lidge. A year, with Lidge on top of his game, the Phillies were 79-0 when leading after eight innings. With Lidge having problems stemming from a bum knee, the Phillies are 58-7 when leading after eight innings this season.

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Just forgetting for a moment all the great LH hitters Philadelphia has, the way St. Louis has been struck with the curse of trading Steve Carlton in hitting against LH pitchers, all Philly needs to do is stack Lee, Hamels and Happ against the Cards. Still, I’ll take our chances with Carp, Waino and Pinero and pray Albert the Great, Holliday and Ludwick find a way to power across more runs than Philly.

— SouthernIllinoisBoy
1:22 pm August 26th, 2009

I hadn’t given it much thought until it was mentioned on the radio, but the three hottest teams in the NL right now are the last three WS reps for the NL…….Pitching will be the key, and the Cardinals’ playoff success will depend upon the second-tier x-factors: Piniero (not much playoff experience, if any), Smoltz, Lohse and Hawksworth. They will need a high level of success from two or three of these pitchers to win it all. It wouldn’t hurt either if Reyes could get out of his funk.

— Captain Hero
1:43 pm August 26th, 2009

Remember folks, if the wildcard comes from the West, the Cards won’t play the Phillies in a 5-game division series… think about it. So let’s worry about the ho-hum Dodgers or red-hot Rockies first, assuming the Giants can’t keep pace with either of them despite Lincecum and Cain heading their rotation. That said, the Phillies are our toughest match-up looming.

— StubbyClapp
1:49 pm August 26th, 2009

Philly is a formitable foe but my question is to all the writers that participated in this great question, “All of you are voting for Philly? Really?” What I like about shows like “PTI” and “Around the Horn” is although the writers may have one favorite, they chose different answers to make the show more interesting. At least Goold mentioned other teams. Way to be creative guys.

— Docta68
2:28 pm August 26th, 2009

Still, I’d rather the playoffs come down to the first round of Cards/Rockies and Phil’s/ Dodgers. Let the Phil’s match up with the Dodger’s knuckleballer and get their swings out of wack before taking on the Cards in the Division Championship series. Holiday and El Hombre and still somewhat screwed up from that last encounter.

— Stang52
3:05 pm August 26th, 2009

The Cards need homefield advantage. Gotta keep chuggin’ hard to earn it!

How about this nickname for Franklin: “Fredbeard”?

— larrynstout
3:59 pm August 26th, 2009

“To be THE MAN, you’ve got to beat THE MAN! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!”

— ObiWanRalph
4:04 pm August 26th, 2009

No kidding.The Phillies.I would have never guest.The Phillies score 20 runs in games against the Cardinals once or twice a year for the last 2 years.

— steve23
4:09 pm August 26th, 2009

Experience says that the answer is ‘whoever is the wild card team’ because they are usually the hottest team. But with the Rockies potentially overtaking the Dodgers in the standings, the WC may go to one of the coldest teams around.

Now that Smoltz will have an opportunity to pitch more games - taking Lohse’s spot instead of the little used 5th spot - the skuttlebutt gang may be soon asking the question ‘Who should the third pitcher in the playoff rotation be, Smoltz or Pineiro?’ The answer to that may materially amend the results of Derrick’s ‘Question of the Day’ from yesterday.

— Joepa
4:28 pm August 26th, 2009

it’s gonna be a great series!

— stltim
4:40 pm August 26th, 2009

Docta68,

I think shows like PTI & Around the Horn are staged in a way that all of the participants have a different outlook or response in order to make it more interesting and to please the certain fan bases. My guess is that Roger emails this question out to everyone and they reply back with their responses, and that is what gets posted on the site. I don’t think they discuss it beforehand and Bernie says “I’ll take Philly” while Gordo says “Well then, I guess I’ll take the Rockies” which I’m pretty sure is what happens on the shows that you mentioned.

Either way, they all answered the question correctly. Even though I wouldn’t want to play the Rockies right now either. Go Birds!

— JTime
4:46 pm August 26th, 2009

whoooooooooooo and hunky tunk walk out of the building

— blah blah blah
4:58 pm August 26th, 2009

The Phils rolled through LA last year, they beat them recently (knuckler or not). I’d be more worried about the Rockies. That team can string streaks with or without Holliday.

— MoDuke
5:09 pm August 26th, 2009

Kudos to Fraley for the Ric Flair reference. This has been the first Watercooler in a long time that I’ve actually agreed with him, lol.

It’ll be an interesting playoffs, that’s for sure. The Phillies scare me the most, and the Rockies can be sneaky. I’m not too worried about the Dodgers with all their hype, the Cardinals have absolutely owned them. The Cards have a great chance but the competition will be tough, and I’m just not that cocky.

— 5th Beatle
6:01 pm August 26th, 2009

Sure trading Carlton was a mistake, but the birds have won 5 pennants and 2 World Series since then. I can think of about 20 teams that would love a curse like that.

— No curse believer
7:00 pm August 26th, 2009

bring it philly!

— johnboy walton
7:29 pm August 26th, 2009

Someone please tell me how the Phillies can match up with Carp and Wainwright? Lee and who? I know they got pretty good pitching but Hamels and his 4-plus era doesn’t quite compare to Wainwright. They have been waiting all season for him to turn it around. Maybe I’m wrong but I just don’t see it.

— stan feldman
12:27 am August 27th, 2009

Not to say that Cliff Lee isn’t a very good pitcher, but as several people pointed out about Smoltz’s dominance over the Padres, it was the Padres.
Lee’s opponents since coming to the NL? Mets, Diamondbacks, Cubs, Rockies, and Giants. OK, so other than the Rockies, do any of those line-ups seem too imposing? Again-yes, he is very good-heck he did when the Cy. But before he’s anointed as the 2nd coming of Carlton, how about he pitches to a few teams in the top half of the offensive stats? It just might fluff up that era a bit.

— Andrew
4:26 am August 27th, 2009

Five diferent writers and all have the same opinion makes for one boring article. Did someone write down Philly and everybody else copy from their paper? A little difference of opinion would make it better.

Cards are 20 games over.500 and how many of these writers picked the Cubbies as contenders for this year? hmmmmm?

— Cardfan
7:02 am August 27th, 2009

No doubt the Phillies are tough, but we can beat them if we play as well as we are capable of playing. We weren’t supposed to beat the Mets in 2006, were we?

— pinchhittter
7:33 am August 27th, 2009

These water cooler questions are cool, but not when the answer is soooo obvious and the reasons soooo obvious and the story line soooo predictable…

— Cory
9:43 am August 27th, 2009

At the beginning of the 2009 season I suggested the Cardinals should release/trade Chris Carpenter because he could no longer pitch. Shows how much I know about baseball; however, this season has been strange. Who would have thought the Cardinals would be leading the NLC by nine games at this point, not many.

— c. jackson
9:56 am August 27th, 2009

Could the Cardinals become their own biggest hurdle? With such big leads teams can get lazy/complacent.

— www.Baseball
12:04 pm August 27th, 2009

Mr. Goold, the Red Lobster in Ballwin closed before Howard debuted for the Phillies.

— Brian
3:28 pm September 1st, 2009

Franklins nickname of Fred Beard!!! Love it! Aw yeah nice work Larry snout!!!

— gravz
3:12 pm September 4th, 2009