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10.22.2009 12:27 pm

Who are Rams’ top draft options at QB?

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THE WATERCOOLER

QUESTION: If the St. Louis Rams were to take a quarterback in the first round of next year’s draft, which current college quarterback would you suggest they select?

BERNIE MIKLASZ
Very tough call, and of course I reserve the right to change my mind later, after these kids play more games and also go through the NFL Scouting Combine. Because a lot can change between now and the draft. But if we are talking right now, I’d go with Washington’s Jake Locker. Big (6-3), strong and athletic, Locker has a plus arm, and a quick release. He’s been thriving in the pro-style offense installed by first-year head coach Steve Sarkisian. Also, Locker is being tutored by one of the best, QBs coach Steve Clarkson, who in the past has worked with Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Leinart and others. Clarkson cleaned up Locker’s mechanics and the improvement was immediate. And keep in mind that Locker is getting it done at Washington, and he’s not surrounded by elite talent. That makes his performance even more impressive.

Notre Dame’s Jimmy Clausen has moved up as an NFL prospect. Clausen has always had the natural talent, but he’s grown at Notre Dame, and is more physically imposing now. Looks like a tough kid, too. He is certainly used to pressure and it doesn’t get to him. The best is yet to come for Clausen. The red flags are out on Oklahoma’s Sam Bradford; it’s not only the shoulder injuries, but the questions of whether he can throw while under pressure, because he doesn’t encounter much of a pass rush at OU. Cincinnati’s Tony Pike could be the steal of the draft; he’s likely to be downgraded and drop down the board because of multiple injuries to his left wrist. But he’s a player. Not sure if Colt McCoy (Texas) has the frame, but he seems like a good fit for a West Coast offense. Jevan Snead (Ole Miss) has been touted by scouts and draftniks, but I haven’t seen enough (yet) to get excited by his NFL future. Again, that could change. All of this could.

VAHE GREGORIAN
With his bum shoulder this season, Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford may be losing stock for the 2010 draft or may even be considering waiting another year to come out. But if he’s available, the Rams would be wise to snap him up. Although he could stand to be more mobile, especially considering the Rams line, last year’s Heisman Trophy winner has all the tools to build a team around: accuracy (67.9 percent of his passes last season), height (6-4) and a leadership presence that makes players want to play better just for him, OU coach Bob Stoops says. Maybe some will see the shoulder injury and apparent aggravation of it last week against Texas as something chronic or signs he is brittle, but sometimes quarterbacks just get hit and hurt. There’s no reason to think it’s anything more with Bradford.

JEFF GORDON
After watching Florida, Notre Dame, Texas and Oklahoma play recent games, I didn’t see a first-round candidate on the field. It’s nice that Colt McCoy can use his feet and make plays on the move, but can you put a rebuilding franchise on those shoulders? The ideal scenario would be Bradford electing to come out in this draft and slipping into the second round because of his shoulder injury. He could be a great second pick.

REID LAYMANCE
The shoulder injuries this season are a bit of concern but Oklahoma’s Sam Bradford still best fits the NFL mold at 6-4, 223. A junior, he could still come back for another season at OU but it’s hard to tell if that will help his draft status. Say what you want about Mel Kiper, the ESPN draft guru, but he had Bradford at No. 1 before the second shoulder injury against Texas and dropped him only to No. 5 overall. Jake Locker of Washington is moving up after his team upset USC but Bradford has a better track record. Colt McCoy and Tim Tebow are both proven winners in college. Tebow isn’t asked to win as often with his his arm as his legs so the jury is still out if that style translates to the NFL. The darkhorse could be Notre Dame’s Jimmy Clausen, a junior, but I’d rather see a few more wins out of him before we start thinking he could be a Joe Montana story.

KATHLEEN NELSON
First, I’d suggest they seriously consider whether they want to take a QB so early. In the past five drafts, a dozen QBs have been taken in the first round.

2009: Matthew Stafford and Mark Sanchez
2008: Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco
2007: JaMarcus Russell and Brady Quinn
2006: Vince Young, Matt Leinart and Jay Cutler
2005: Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers and Jason Campbell

Eight of the 12 are starters. Only Rodgers and Flacco rank among the league’s top 10 QBs in yardage. Only Ryan and Rodgers rank among the top 10 in QB rating. Only Ryan and Cutler start for teams above .500 this season.

If they insisted on taking a quarterback, maybe they could take a shot at Jimmy Clausen. The scouting reports say he has a stronger arm than Colt McCoy or Sam Bradford, and he seems to get more snaps under center than the other two.

KEVIN WHEELER (Host of “Sports Open Line” on KMOX)
Can my answer be “nobody?” With Sam Bradford’s shoulder possibly requiring season-ending surgery, I can’t see a QB that I would spend a high first-round pick on. Colt McCoy doesn’t have the prototpyical arm or strength, Tim Tebow has goofy mechanics and has never run anything remotely resembling pro style offense and Jevan Snead is having an awful year at Ole Miss. Cincy’s Tony Pike is hurt and I like both Jimmy Claussen and Jake Locker but they don’t exactly have long track records of success in college.

If Bradford’s shoulder were 100 percent healthy come the spring I’d take him over all the others, but shoulder injuries are scary. If I had to pick someone today it would be Locker. He has the size, arm strength and athleticism to be an NFL star.

I’d rather have safety Taylor Mays from USC, defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh from Nebraska or receiver Brandon LaFell from LSU over any of the QB’s though.

98 comments

Kevin, I like LaFell. Please, please, please, please don’t have the Rams pick a defensive lineman. Talk about the kiss od death for both the lineman and the Rams. Their should be an NFL rule banning the Rams from taking a defensive lineman in the top 2 rounds. Please show some compassion.

— JimH GWRH'09
1:03 pm October 22nd, 2009

I think our best value is likely to be targeting Locker, probably in the second round. I don’t think the Rams are nearly good enough to support a rookie QB. Look at the pounding Stafford is taking in Det… Let’s get a D-Line man or WR first round, and then look for QB value in the second. If no one is there, then give Null a shot. What have we got to lose?

— Sam in Dallas
1:05 pm October 22nd, 2009

What they stand to lose is another year in the rebuilding process. Drafting a QB next year and getting him in games (one way or the other) will give the Rams a QB with some experience for the following year when they hope to contend.

— bleh
1:11 pm October 22nd, 2009

Tebow is a college quarterback period.
Locker has the tools, but doesn’t warrant a high pick yet, maybe by next year. I lived in Seattle and saw him play a lot, his arm is not very accurate. He is tough and mobile, but not a pro passer yet. He should stay for his senior year and probably will as a degree and being near his family is important to him.

— bh
1:12 pm October 22nd, 2009

pardon, are important to him

— bh
1:14 pm October 22nd, 2009

Hopefully we get Null in there for a few games at the end of this year to see if we NEED to draft a QB in the first 2 rounds. If Null can show something later this year in starting action, maybe we can wait until the 3rd or 4th to draft a QB.

— Chad B.
1:15 pm October 22nd, 2009

Bradford: injury worries me, but it’s not like he gets hurt on the drop of a hat.

Claussen: Seriously? Who exactly has he played that he has looked so great against. This has Brady Quinn written all over it…

McCoy: This kid is the real deal. He steps up in the big games and reads defenses well. A solid QB build a team around.

Locker: This was a dark horse candidate that has really begun to intrigue me. After hearing how he turned down his scholarship with UW after signing a bonus with the Angels for his baseball playing rights so that someone else could earn the scholarship tells me he’s a class act. But I wonder if after he is done with collegiate athletics if he is really going to want to go to the NFL over MLB. Football takes a bigger beating on your body and careers don’t last quite as long.

To me the choice is between McCoy and Locker.

— Bob
1:17 pm October 22nd, 2009

kevin is the closest to having it right. Other than Locker, and maybe clausen, the rest of the qb’s have too many ifs to be considered. Because of his inability to escape the rush, and the spread offense, healthy or not, I wouldnt take Bradford. Also kevin, you should replace Ndamkong Suh with eric berry, and you would have the perfect scenario. The rams will get one or two tackles from the giants this off season.

— St. Lou Angeles of Cleveland
1:22 pm October 22nd, 2009

I think you have to look at the gys ho have delivered in pressure situations. That is why Matt Ryan is so great and Joe Flacco. Matt’s last yr at BC. he was all over the field making come from behind victories on nationally telvised games. Thats a guy who can handle the pressure and thirve in it. Tis is why Tebow stock should not be put down. He is a legitimate QB, as is Jake Locker. Bradford and McCoy have never really won that come from behind game against a worthy opponent. Sure they have lots of blow outs, which is reflctive of their Defense, but its the come from behind victories that show the real guts of a QB.

— Zach
1:26 pm October 22nd, 2009

Clauson throws all the NFL pass routes with super accuracy and really throws the deep pass excellent. Locker is just as good. So any one of those two would do.

— Peter
1:28 pm October 22nd, 2009

if i were King, i’d do the smart thing and look at QB’s who have been taught/groomed/coached/counseled by a college/university coach with NFL experience or a Coach with successful Quarterback experience…it isn’t a fluke that Kyle Orton is better this year because of Josh McDaniels experience with Quarterbacks…it isn’t a surprise that joe flacco is good because of Harbaugh’s success as a Quarterback. we should be drafting guys not by the name of the college but who actually coaches them…Kirk Ferentz, year end and year out and his staff have tremendous Offensive and Defensive linemen…Ferentz is an example of what i mean of looking at the coaching…if i want a defensive secondary guy, i’d look at bobbie or mike stoops program…NFL veterans who focus on those guys in their program…i wouldn’t look to Bob Stoops at Oklahoma and say i want his quarterback…i don’t think Bradford is that well coached at Oklahoma at the position…Stoops doesn’t know much about that position but he sure knows how to take advantage of passing/roll out quarterbacks…instead of reading all the hype on these guys, a closer look should be taken at who has coached these guys…you will find the successful college players had coaches with knowledge and skill to make them all they can be…Null should be pretty decent using my logic because like him or not, Ryan Leaf knows the Quarterback position and how to coach Quarterbacks…he should be given a shot in this dismal season to get a sense of how he would fare in the spotlight…my bet is he’d do ok-even with the offensive line and receivers we have…

— cornhead
1:39 pm October 22nd, 2009

You know its a slow day sports wise for a city that has an awfull football team to be talking about the NFL Draft –In OCTOBER!!!

Anyway’s it’s good conversation, but if the Rams waste another pic on a defensive lineman I’ll lose my mind. How many have we drafted in the past 5 years?? How many were busts???

This team has alot of needs: Quaterback, wide reciever, defensive line, linebacker. If I were the Rams and I had say the top one or two pick; If Bradford is healthy you pick him immediately… IF not, you have to trade down and try to pick up players in bulk that can help many positions…

— cass avenue diva
1:39 pm October 22nd, 2009

I agree with alot of the above, you have to back off of Bradford due to the injury, but if he falls to the second round it’s a steal to get him there. The Rams have to make a solid choice if they take a QB early. With the recent atmosphere of the franchise they cannot afford to make a gamble pick or follow trends. Of the group of Bradford, McCoy, Tebow, Locker, Clausen, Pike or Snead the jury is still out on all of them. If you have to handicap the order they are picked in right now I think, realistically, Locker and Bradford will go in the first round, maybe Clausen sneaks in there as well. Bradford is a first round gamble, but there are alot of nutty GM’s out there desperate to find a potential superstar and sell tickets, so look for early first round pickers to trade down to get him late first round or trade up with their 2nd and 3rd picks to nab him as an additional first round choice. Locker has a limited track record but has all the intangibles and has shown he can be coached, which is a oft-forgotten trait when scouting QB’s. Right not he is the safest choice in my opinion. Clausen might just get into the first round as well as almost every team in the NFL could use an upgrade at QB either starting or backup. From there it’s anyones guess. McCoy will go in the second round if available along with Snead and any of the 3 first-round worthy signal-callers. I see Pike as being an interesting case where in his wrist injuried will effect his stock much more than Bradford’s injury will effect his. Late second round or third feels right for him, I would be surprised to see anyone in this group slide past the mid third round with the excpetion of Tim Tebow. It’s ironic that the most decorated college QB available may not even forecast as an true NFL QB, at least not from what we have seen to this point. Count on him being picked, just not until the third round at the earliest. It would be a great story to see him succeed in the NFL, but the odds are stacked against it given his mechanics and experience to this point. His learning curve will be mighty steap, and honestly he might not even have an NFL arm. To me he is the “Tyler Hansbrough” of the upcoming NFL draft. Only this is not the NBA, and he plays the most important position on a football field, thus the late rounds are where he will be. If the Rams choose a QB they need to take Locker, Clausen or Bradford if he falls to 2nd round, everything else is a gamble in the first or second round for a franchise that has no room for error in the upcoming off-season. Go Rams and good luck!

— Bert
1:41 pm October 22nd, 2009

All of the arguable bust QB’s in the list above are from teams that were Top 10 Ranked teams, thus inflating the stock of the QB due to the Overall teams success: example - Vince Young - Texas, Matt Leinart - USC, Jamarcus Russel - LSU, Brady Quinn - Notre Dame, Coming soon…Mark Sanchez - USC, Matt Stafford may be an exception, but one of the few. Then the smaller school less hyped schools yet still prominent have supplied the real talent, and that reflects more on the QB, becasue they lack the supporting cast that the Texas’s, Oklahomas, and LSU’s have. So Matt Ryan - BC, Joe Flacco - Delaware, Jay Cutler - Vanderbilt all the fit the mold of Great QB’s and their talent is more real. Of course this isn;t a simple science as Carson Palmer was a USC guy, and other came from Big schools, but I don’t think you can overlook Jake Locker - Washington. He is a stud and a much similar qb to these other NFL True Talents.

— Zach
1:43 pm October 22nd, 2009

Ndamukong Suh? What is the Rams track record when picking someone from Nebraska? They’d better hope this guy has a “can’t miss” tag on him if the Rams select him.

— Roy Earl
1:46 pm October 22nd, 2009

Locker or Claussen

— polo
1:51 pm October 22nd, 2009

I know that the rams track record with D lineman is bad, but have you seen Suh play this year. He is the heart and soul of that Nebraska defense and he is scary with how big and quick he is.

— Bigmatth67
1:52 pm October 22nd, 2009

I lean toward Locker, 3 yr starter even though he did break his thumb in ‘08 and I agree with the theory regarding top 10 schools- they have so much talent around them that you can’t help but be good. The other non top 10 schools depend on the QB to win games. Locker has all the tools and excellent teachers.

Suh from Nebraska is a beast and we should pick him if we are able. I know the track record of recent Nebraska picks but he is awesome and a difference maker.

— CYCLONE RAM
1:57 pm October 22nd, 2009

Reading these comments is making me realize that having a top pick in this years draft could mean the Rams could have a San Diego type draft when they got LT first and Drew Brees in the second. I’d go Taylor Mays and the top QB remaining in the second round. I’m leaning towards Locker but would be happy with any of the top 5 QBS, especially in the second round. As far as Mays he’s another Lott, Dawkins, Reed type safety and he’s a freaking lock to be awesome.

— Micah J
1:58 pm October 22nd, 2009

Jeff Gordon is clearly lost on the subject of football if he doesn’t think that Clausen is a first rounder. Did you even watch the Notre Dame/USC game Jeff?

— The_Teller_of_Truths
2:00 pm October 22nd, 2009

Gosh why don’t they get someone to throw to. Wouldn’t it be nice to have Dez Bryant to catch the ball.

— Chris B
2:01 pm October 22nd, 2009

Take Suh in the first round, - Tebow in the third/fourth.

Tebow will be the next Drew Breese/Favre.

— I told you so
2:01 pm October 22nd, 2009

I was curious whether anyone would mention my favorite choice for the Rams, but, Bernie, you did right at the start. Jake Locker looks to be the best pro prospect, at least to this football fan.

— Prof
2:05 pm October 22nd, 2009

I agree on Locker. Saw him last night and was very impressed. Otherwise, I would take full value at wherever they draft, and right now, probably in the top 2-3 (and that is optimistic). Then grab good value at a McCoy or Bradford, or Claussen if any of them were to drop into the 2nd.

— john
2:10 pm October 22nd, 2009

Other Current Great QB’s from less prominent schools, (schools that over the past 10 yrs have rarely made top 25)
Ben Roethlisberger - Miami (ohio)
Phillip Rivers - NC State
Drew Brees - Purdue - (Ok they used to be good)
Kyle Orton - Purdue
Donovan McNabb - Syracuse
Eli Manning - Ole Miss (first good season in forever)
Kurt Warner - Northern Iowa
Brett Favre - Southern Miss
Matt Schaub - Virginia

Scools almost always in top 25
Overrated because of Prominent College attended:
Jason Campbell - Auburn
Jamarcus Russel - LSU
Matt Leinart - USC
Brady Quinn - Notre Dame
Vince Young - Texas
Most liekly….Mark Snachez - NY Jets

Exceptions:
Peyton Manning - Tennesee - He obviously is on his own level
Aaron Rodgers - California
Matt Cassel - USC - but never played in college - dumb luck pick
Tom Brady Michigan - Butnever started in College - dumb luck pick
Chad Henne - Michigan - Outlook looks good, but too early
Marc Bulger - West Virginia —I don’t think WV was known as a top 25 school during his time or at least prior to

Trend seems obvious to me….pick the Guy from washington…and not the guy from Oklahoma, Texas, or Notre Dame.

— Zach
2:11 pm October 22nd, 2009

It’s not often you get Vahe Gregorian, Reid Laymance, Kevin Wheeler, and the always controversrial “Lean, Mean, Kathleen Machine” Nelson on the same panel.

It’s a proverbial “Who’s Who?” of legendary sports “writers.” Seriously, it’s a “Who’s Who?” Like, Who is Reid Laymance? Or, who is Vahe Gregorian? Or, who cares what any of these four people think?

— K N-M
2:30 pm October 22nd, 2009

The Rams shouldn’t pick a QB with their 1st pick. The Rams should shore up the defense first and then once the defense gets going, THEN worry about the offense.

Bulger is still a decent QB and I think you would get more out of Bulger next year, then you would on a first round QB. There will be PLENTY of QBs to take in the draft over the next few years.

My vote would be for Suh, Carlos Dunlap, or even Eric Berry. Getting to the QB is key in a Spags defense and I think that is more important at this point.

Having Berry in the secondary (rather at FS or SS or CB) should eliminate most of those long pass plays that the Rams current secondary have been given up on a regular basis.

— BWALL
2:31 pm October 22nd, 2009

Maybe the Ram’s quarterback of the future is already on the team. Maybe his name is Keith Null.

— Goldthroat
2:35 pm October 22nd, 2009

what do we have in Null? we drafted him? let’s see if he’s not another Warner? he’s in the same postion that Bulger was at one-time? want to waste a pick on another QB when we could/might have dynamite on this squad…and like a poster said earlier, who in the heck is the QB going to throw the ball to?? well, duh? show me what Null has and then i’ll go for an unknown NFL QB in the early round…we could end up with another clip board guy!!

— cornhead
2:36 pm October 22nd, 2009

I will withhold judgment until the combine next year. When the QB’s showed up to demonstrate their talent and personalities it was, and is, obvious that Saanchez was the best choice. (Even after last week). Right now it looks like Locker. But, as many have said, maybe take one in the second round.

— ramsfan1951
2:36 pm October 22nd, 2009

On second thought — I think we need a left tackle.

— ramsfan1951
2:45 pm October 22nd, 2009

I agree, what’s wrong with giving Keith Null a shot? Was he drafted for the fun of it?

— Mr. Faithful
2:54 pm October 22nd, 2009

No QB is any good on their back. Until the O-line is fixed or a WR threat to throw to none of them will do good in STL

— KB
2:54 pm October 22nd, 2009

Surprised that no one is mentioning the QB who is going to be the #1 overall pick if he comes out - Ryan Mallet. He just screams NFL QB when you watch him. Great size, great mobility for his size, great arm. Looks kind of like Roethlisberger in the pocket. National NFL Draft guys who aren’t worried about being on TV and actually watch games are all over Mallet.
As for the QB’s that were mentioned, I seriously wonder how anyone who watched the OU-TEX game can think Colt McCoy can be an NFL QB.
Bradford is a system QB who will be rehabbing a shoulder. There is no way you can invest 35 million plus in guaranteed money in someone like that.
Tebow has more of a future as an H-back/Wildcat player for 10 plays a game than as an actual QB. Clausen and Locker are definitely worth looking at for the Rams though.

— Ron Mexico
3:00 pm October 22nd, 2009

Tebow can revolutionize the nfl period. Having Tebow and Jackson running the offense would be amazing and make us a contender.

— gorams
3:11 pm October 22nd, 2009

GET TEBOW!!!!!

— Tony
3:22 pm October 22nd, 2009

My main concerns with McCoy is his arm strength and the type of offense he plays (the spread, which is also a concern with Bradford). However, it’s also notable that he’s had quite a bit of success without the best supporting cast around him, keeping Texas near the top of the rankings during that time. Whereas Bradford had 2 different 1000 yard rushers behind him in 2008, McCoy himself was THE leading rusher for Texas. And while I like his best weapon, Jordan Shipley, the latter is hardly a candidate to be a first round selection, if a first day selection. In other words, McCoy has done a lot without a ton of talent around him.

That being said, McCoy probably wouldn’t justify a high first round pick, and may even be more of a second rounder. Locker and Clausen are more likely to climb toward the top of the first round, and Pike is also a climber. I also like Mallet of Arkansas mentioned above.

I’m not high on Bradford. As noted above, he has a lot of talent around him, and he doesn’t even have to read defenses at OU (they call in the play after they see the defensive alignment).

Tebow? He’s not a guy I would want to bet against, but he is going to be a project as an NFL QB, and the time it will take for him to get his mechanics NFL-ready is not time that the current regime has.

— thirteen28
3:24 pm October 22nd, 2009

None of the above are first round picks. The only one I like of those mentioned is Jake Locker. I’d like to see Null get to play the second half of the season and see what he’s got.

— eocjr
3:33 pm October 22nd, 2009

No, No, NO! Do NOT draft a QB this year!! Build the roster with this draft and off-season, then wait until the 2011 draft which is WAY better talent-wise. Bradford is a glass slipper; Tebow is an H-back; McCoy is a “system QB”. Locker will realize very soon here that he needs one more year under Sarkisian to get prepared for the NFL. Clausen doesn’t want to leave without either a BCS bid or beating USC- niether are happening this year. Add to that Pat Devlin of Deleware, Christian Ponder of Florida State, Jevan Snead of Ole Miss, Nathan Enderle of Idaho, Zach Frazier of UConn, Colin Keappernick of Nevada, Andy Dalton of TCU, Case Keenum of Houston, and hopefully, then junior Ryan Mallett of Arkansas who right now is the most NFL ready.

— Curt
3:45 pm October 22nd, 2009

Ahem…(insert blue font) Juice Williams graduates this year…(close blue font)

— Mark
3:52 pm October 22nd, 2009

Bulger…while a decent QB…just doesn’t have that “it factor” that a QB should have. That’s the big appeal of Tebow. He has “it” and is the viscious leader that the Rams need but his passing motion is tooooo long. 1st round go Jake Locker. If he’s there for the Rams 2nd pick…Taylor Mays.

— John
3:58 pm October 22nd, 2009

as stated above by VAHE GREGORIAN
“With his bum shoulder this season, Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford may be losing stock for the 2010 draft or may even be considering waiting another year to come out. But if he’s available, the Rams would be wise to snap him up. Although he could stand to be more mobile, especially considering the Rams line, last year’s Heisman Trophy winner has all the tools….”

Build the O-line first…….you could have Dan Marino/Joe Montana combined and he wouldnt be able to throw when he is on his back…..

try to trade down and draft plenty of offensive linemen…..if you cant trade down, then take the best o-linemen and go from there

— stl native
4:06 pm October 22nd, 2009

Get TEBOW!

— NW
4:35 pm October 22nd, 2009

I would rather make a trade with the New Orleans Saints for Chase Daniels, who played for Mizzou last year. He may be small, but he is built like Drew Brees. This guy is a winner, and has a winner’s attitude. You can say all you want about him not being draft material, but I would welcome him in open arms as the next 1st string quarterback for the Rams. The mindset of the Rams would rest on his shoulders. He can do it.

— Dave
4:37 pm October 22nd, 2009

One of the years we have to get it right. Yes, take ANOTHER DT, Suh. We are still an awful team so best available should be the plan. QB next year.

— Lunar Chiroptera
4:39 pm October 22nd, 2009

It seems 2010 is a bad year to draft a QB 1st…..kind of like taking the first CB, the first WR, the first DE and first OT in the Rams last drafts. Perhaps as I have said before…..it is well over due to start playing Null to see if he is moldable….we know what Bulger can do….he is not getting younger….and he has QB’d this team for a majority of its losses over the past two years.

— Ramdaddy
4:43 pm October 22nd, 2009

Um, how about an elite receiver?

— Blue
5:06 pm October 22nd, 2009

The more I watch all of these qb’s the more I think that the Rams would be better served if they bolstered their defense and offensive line with their next draft. This team is a couple of years away from being competitive so they could strengthen their defense and offensive line this year and work on their offense the next year because they will still probably get a high draft pick the following year. Why send a number one qb out next year with a horrible offensive line? The rookie qb could get happy feet and gun shy behind this o line and never get a chance to flourish. If Bradford falls to a second round pick this year he may decide to stay in school for his senior season.

— Alan
5:08 pm October 22nd, 2009

I see Mallett being mentioned here but I don’t believe he will come out this year for three reasons. 1) This is only really his 1st year as a starter and he has 2 more years of eligibility left. 2) He is still learning and with another year with Petrino he’ll be a much higher draft pick. 3) Most of the skilled position players around him are freshmen and Sophomores. He’ll probably want one more year with these guys because they have a real chance to be a very special offensive team next year.

Its good to see that other people like him also, because he looks a lot like Joe Flacco with his height and arm strength.

— Alan
5:17 pm October 22nd, 2009

I can’t believe it’s only October and we are discussing the NFL Draft that happens in 6 months! (that’s why the NFL is KING)

The Rams have (and will have) so many needs come next April. Trade down from #1 or #2, (where ever they would draft) and gather picks. Trade down to the middle of the 1st round - draft a Wide receiver and get offensive line or secondary help with the extra picks. Bulger is fine while we rebuild, then get a QB via trade/free agency or later in the draft or the following year.

I see no sure-fire studs in this draft at the QB position (yet)!

— BG
5:21 pm October 22nd, 2009

I dont think the RAMS should pick a QB as their first choice either. Since the RAMS can’t protect them, why get a young promising QB Maimed after his first season. The RAMS need a strong armed, smart and fleet footed Q.B. that can throw on the run, seeing he will be running for his life most every play. They need to get a quality R.B. that is strong, fast and has good hands and is dedicated, like Marshal Faulk 10 years ago, and finally they need someone to call the offensive plays, right now the play calling is offensive in many ways, I’d like to see the RAMS draft Locker in the second round, dump Boller and move NIX to second string, which will be first string in 2-3 weeks as Bulger is just about due for another concussion, I love Bulger, but like every otrher RAMS Q.B. he has gotten his ASS handed to him every year, 0-16 is a pretty good bet.

— californiamobilecpr
5:24 pm October 22nd, 2009

Asking writers that don’t follow college football or the draft closely such a question seems silly.

— Marc Bulger
5:46 pm October 22nd, 2009

How many QBs from Texas have been outstanding in the NFL? Uh, in recent memory? Young? Bust. Simms? Reject. McCoy - another surefire loser. These guys do not do well in the NFL, just like Florida QBs do not do well in the NFL. I can’t think of one who has been good, let alone great.

BTW, 4 the Sanchez lovers out there, looks like he came back to reality. His numbers overall are awful. Another game like that, and it is bench time.

Whoever the Rams pick..it has to be offensive threat..no more Defense..it has to be a QB.. I like the kid from Washington. Bradford scares me..shoulder injuries..he is brittle.. but has talent..wait, that sounds like someone we have on our team right now..second round pick..talented..but brittle.. hmm, who could that be?

— Tony Banks
5:50 pm October 22nd, 2009

WOW = ARE YOU GUYS KIDDING ABOUT YOUR PICKS FOR FUTURE RAM QB.THIS IS A NO
BRAINER. DON’T YOU SEE THAT TIM TEBOW IS REALLY STEVE YOUNG REINCARNATED.
I PRAY THAT RAM SCOUTS ALSO RECOGNIZE THIS FACT.

— joe assante
6:05 pm October 22nd, 2009

None of the above. Instead, trade your 2nd and a 6th for Matt Leinart. Warner (God bless him) will play for two more years after this (goal to get 40,000 yards), and Matt will be getting antsy sitting the bench. There was a reason he was a first round pick, he is learning from one of the all-toime best, has played a few games, is not shell-shocked (like Sanchez) and is more of a sure thing. He needs a change, and he can start right away.

— Bob McAvoy
6:12 pm October 22nd, 2009

Don’t waste a draft choice, when there are sleepers. Get Mike Martz as a special assistance or someone who is able to find these potential talents. I think Bulger, if we can get the Offense line situated can be that QB for a little while longer. OL’s is what make good QB great.

— auriel04
6:19 pm October 22nd, 2009

gregorian is a true blue idiot!!!

— bill lumberg
6:31 pm October 22nd, 2009

Watch Dan LeFevour from Central Michigan. Winner.

— Rams67
6:37 pm October 22nd, 2009

I think the Rams are nuts if they don’t draft Tebow. He is the best athlete and is a winner. Have you ever seen a St. Louis football player give a speech like he did last year after they lost to Mississippi and then back it up. He is the exact same player as a former first overall pick. Michael Vick. Before Vick screwed up he had some very successful years with the Falcons including leading them to an NFC championship game. He is already better than Bulger. They should have drafted Ryan two years ago. How is that working out for them. The downside is how long will it be until he gets hurt going 150 mph. That is the only thing that scares me.

— Chuck
6:41 pm October 22nd, 2009

I really think the Rams can get their QB by either trading down and getting an extra pick or by selecting their QB in the 2nd round. First off, I’d stay away from Bradford, I never really cared for the guy last year, I mean really, what’s the difference between Bradford and Graham Harrell, and Harrell didn’t even get drafted this past year nor was he able to latch on to anyone after the draft. I heard Larry Brown on SNR last week and he is not big on Bradford either and says that whenever Oklahoma needs Bradford to really step up in a game, he disappears. And I definitely don’t want another QB who is not a gamer. Just this past week I started checking out replay games on ESPN360 to catch some game action on all these QB’s. And so far I think Jake Locker is the guy, and Locker might be the guy where the Rams can trade down a few spots and still pick him. But Locker is very athletic, the announcers claim that the guy runs 4.4 in the 40, and that might be an exaggeration, but I’m telling you, this guy runs the field like a wideout…..very athletic. Good arm, throws well on the run, a real playmaker. Some people compare him to McNabb. His accuracy needs some work but that’ll come. He’s the guy………Tony Pike is different to say the least. 6 Feet 6 inches, and for a big guy he does have mobility. Strong, accurate arm. This is the guy the Rams could get in the 2nd round. I can’t comment on Clausen cause I haven’t seen enough of him yet, I saw the last drive he had against USC last Saturday and I wasn’t impressed. Colt McCoy is another fall back option for the Rams, I think he can be had in the 2nd round as well. Comparing him to Jeff Garcia is perfect, I do think McCoy is cerebral and will be a playmaker. For now, I say Locker, McCoy and then Pike………I need to see more of Clausen, and I want to check out Pat Devlin of Delaware as well. I want to believe Jevan Snead is a quality pick, but he’s had a rough year so far. Great topic, we need to see this topic often all the way up to the draft. Thanks

— BillP.
6:41 pm October 22nd, 2009

I guess I’m confused. I thought the question was: if the Rams were to choose a quarterback in the draft, who would you take?

So why is one panelist and others in the comments section discussing players at other positions?

We’re supposed to be talking about who is the best QB prospect, and why. At least that’s what the question said.

— Bernie Miklasz
6:43 pm October 22nd, 2009

K N-M

Apparently you care what the writers think, because you read this and you responded to it. A double compliment.

— Bernie Miklasz
6:44 pm October 22nd, 2009

Can Locker pass the performance enhancing drugs test? Not by what I’m seeing on the internet he wont. There is no way this guy is not on the juice

— fan in fort worth
6:45 pm October 22nd, 2009

My compliments to the poster who touted Dan LeFevour of Central Michigan. You’re onto something there….

— Bernie Miklasz
6:45 pm October 22nd, 2009

Locker is the man. Take W/R in rd.2 Rams also have to find two defensive ends someplace. Little is most likely playing his last year and baby Howie just plain sucks…

— terryf
6:48 pm October 22nd, 2009

I agree on LeFouver, I forgot about him.

— BillP.
6:53 pm October 22nd, 2009

We need to get our hands on another top tier RB in this upcoming draft. No doubt Jackson is one of the best at what he does but we need someone who can come in and be a threat on the ground.(not Kenneth Darby or Samkon Gado) There are four or five of those guys that will be on the big board this April.(Jonathan Dwyer, Evan Royster, C.J Spiller, Jahvid Best, Noel Devine, and Demarco Murry.) We can definitely grab one of these guys with the high second round pick we will surely possess. This may sound a bit off but im not so sure the rams best move would be to take a QB with the their fist pick. I would go defense possibly Suh, Dunlap, or Gerald McCoy could be good looks. I would like to see the rams have defense and a killer running game. We can take a rookie QB of the future in the second or third round. The crop this year is looking pretty ripe and there aren’t a ton of teams out there going after the next franchise guy.(Dan LeFevour, Zac Robinson, Tim Hiller, Jimmy Claussen, and Tony Pike look like good options) So I expect some talent to slip through the cracks at that position. If we could sure up the run game and continue to build this D with high end young talent we may be able to surprise some people next year. If we do go this direction it would be great to have a QB starting next year in the Kyle Orton mold.(takes care of the football) Not on a long term deal but it would give a young QB a year or two to learn what it takes to be an NFL starter watching from the sidelines rather than out of the ear hole of his helmet.

— Rams GM of the future
7:59 pm October 22nd, 2009

I’d have to agree with Micah J. Look what a difference there is in Pittsburg without Polamalou. Remember when the Colts lost Bob Sanders to injury and then he returned to help push the defense in the playoffs. Teams with good Safety’s tend to put the fear of God in opposing receivers. Can you just imagine how the D would look with Taylor Mays teaming with Otogwe? And the QB position is a crapshoot most of the time. Why take a chance. We will be able to pick up D linemen in free agency and then we can focus on D backs, another number one receiver, and a backup RB to take some of the carries off of Jackson. (Or maybe we should talk to the Raiders or Saints and try to pry away someone named
Bush.) Safety is probably the easiest transition to the NFL and a position that will help us sooner rather than later. I’m tired of watching my team lose, but I have faith in Spags. Just give him time………..

— James
8:01 pm October 22nd, 2009

Wow! I just read the rest of the posts on this page and I begin to wonder if the rams front office of the past five years or so is beginning to rub off on some of our fans…..9 out of 10 posts on this page are way off.

— Rams GM of the future
8:10 pm October 22nd, 2009

I know I’m going to get flack for this, but don’t blame the kid for Bulger’s failures. I’m going to say take Jarrett Brown in the second or third round and you will have the steal of the draft. 6′5″ mobile, 230, big time arm, very accurate, senior who stayed at WVU behind Pat White while he could have gone anywhere and started. Makes all the throws. Just needs more game time experience. Great character. Very athletic. Played on Huggins hoop team last season.

— Chuck
8:17 pm October 22nd, 2009

James it would be great to have a guy like Taylor Mays on the team. One problem we have two more than serviceable safety’s on this team as it is.(Osh & J. Butler) We need some pass rush bad! Chris Long certainly hasn’t shown why he was the SECOND player selected overall two years ago with his gargantuan total of ZERO sacks this year. Carriker is definitely not an NFL caliber defensive tackle.(especially if he can’t play more than 12 games over the course of the season) So I see this team going after a game changing defensive lineman with their first pick.(if they are smart) As far as the safety position goes I would rather have Berry from Tennessee over T. Mays. Both of these guys will make plays on Sunday next year but I believe when it’s all said and done Berry will have the better career.

— Rams GM of the future
8:22 pm October 22nd, 2009

I think that I would take a flier on the kid named Gabbert.

— phil
8:44 pm October 22nd, 2009

I love these conversations. They don’t make much sense, but I love them. I think that the closest thing that you can get to a “Fact Is” statement is that top rated QB’s are often over-rated, over paid & over relied upon. In fact, most of a Draft’s top few player tend to be less effecting than the guys between 8-18–because college production doesn’t translate well to the Pro’s. That is the reason that, every year that the Rams get a top 3 pick (which is often), they should trade out–even at an apparent loss of value.

— Chris Hosto
8:48 pm October 22nd, 2009

The Rams have alot of holes to fill, so id wait till round two or later to take a quarterback. If I was the Rams id take a big DT like Suh in the first round then in the second take a quarterback like Tony Pike of Cincinnati. If hes gone id wait till round 4 and take Jarrod Johnson of Texas A & M.

— Joseph Battaglia
9:02 pm October 22nd, 2009

After reviewing the play of th ecurrent batch of college QB’s most likely to enter the draft, my first choice is Clausen and second is Locker. I’d be happy with either one, but believe Clausen is a notch above.

Rams need to grab a QB with the 1st pick. With Spags as coach and a number of quality players entering free agency next year, he’ll be able to address the o-line immediately. We need to land the future face of the team asap and get rid of Bulgar, he has zero leadership and its bringing down the team.

— ramsfanfromcalifa
9:12 pm October 22nd, 2009

Trading out of the top spot would be ideal. Unfortunately the only time you are going to run into a “fair” deal is going to be the year you don’t want to trade out of the top spot. Meaning there are one of those young talents that everyone covets and you are pretty much handcuffed as a franchise to take the new hot commodity. If for no other reason than to avoid the back lash that fans of a team that hasn’t given them much to cheer about in the regular season would bring. This is a year that does not seem to have one of those obvious elite talents. Someone who won’t make you think twice about signing the 30million dollar check he will receive without ever taking a snap in the league. If the best picks usually fall between picks 8-18 then dont you just take the right player? with the pick you have? Last time I checked if they went between picks 8-18 they were available at 2 or 3.

— Rams GM of the future
9:15 pm October 22nd, 2009

I agree with KEVIN WHEELER im not impressed with ne of the quarterbacks in this draft. Id rather see the Rams take Mays or Berry and take a qb in the 2nd round. we missed our real chance at a true first round qb by passing on Sanchez.

— sean
9:51 pm October 22nd, 2009

I just don’t like drafting QBs with 1st round picks. Too much of a crap shoot. A QB is a developmental position. I like good scouting, later draft picks and trades/free agents for the QB position. So, I wouldn’t take any of them in the first round. In the first round, you draft blue chip athletes, the biggest, strongest, fastest, meanest SOBs you can, and truly elite skill guys.

— Seacone
9:54 pm October 22nd, 2009

the st louis rams withe the frist pick select tim tebow reason

1 2 bcs chapamion chip
2 hisemen troph
3 67 td 11 int
4 is a good person
5 would be great for rams

— zeo
10:01 pm October 22nd, 2009

I’m all for giving Null a shot just to see what the Rams have there. The risk is that if he can’t get it done then they could finish 0-16 instead of an encouraging 2-14.

— walt
10:33 pm October 22nd, 2009

I agree that they should definitely take Taylor Mays from USC. Why not? If the Rams are rebuilding the team why not do it with the defense since Spagnuolo is a defensive coordinator at heart.

— GEEH
10:33 pm October 22nd, 2009

“Tom Brady Michigan - Butnever started in College - dumb luck pick”

Actually, you are wrong on Brady. He did start at Michigan. All year in ‘98 and ‘99. He won 20 of 25 games as a starter.

With regard to who the Rams QB, there is no doubt we need a change. Bulger is terrible. He can’t read defenses and makes horrible decisions. But I don’t think this is the year to pick a QB. Instead, we need to shore up the o-line, d-lines, secondary and receivers. Get those pieces in place and trade for an older, experienced QB with a couple of years left in him…. Then next year, draft Ryan Mallett from Arkansas. IMHO, he is a better fit for the Rams than any of the choices out there this year.

Regardless, we should not waste a high draft pick on McCoy or Bradford or any other QB running the spread, including Tebow. Tebow is not a pro-style QB. Not to mention, if the Rams don’t get a better o-line, he will suffer enough concussions to end his career prematurely.

— What??
10:37 pm October 22nd, 2009

Thanks to the St. Louis Post reporters who took it upon themselves to weaken the possibility of local ownership of the St. Louis Rams. See the following news article that indicates the Governor of California has signed a bill to allow the construction of a 75,000 person FOOTBALL STADIUM in Los Angles: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=capress-fbn_nfl_los_angeles-222536524&prov=capress&type=lgns. Let’s hope those who spoke out against local ownership follow the team out of St. Louis.

— Nudrake
10:39 pm October 22nd, 2009

I’ve watched a lot of Jake Locker in person. When he’s on the field he’s one, if not the, fastest players out there. He’s a load and very elusive. Under Sarkisian he’s developing into an excellent quarterback. And he’s got a rifle for an arm. Never seen anything like him at quarterback. Not that big, that strong, that fast and that great of an arm. Tim Tebow is a VW bug compared to Locker. Hope he comes out because this kids a stud and he is an extreme competitor. Played under the dreg Willingham. If had been with good coaches, would have already won a Heismann. Rams can only hope.

— gman
11:34 pm October 22nd, 2009

NuDrake, I saw the same story. Of all the teams he’s going to approach, the Rams are the one for sale. Not good…

— Chuck
11:59 pm October 22nd, 2009

what about zac robinson from oklahoma state.i think he would be a great nfl qb especially if the rams were able to get guys like dez bryant an beau johnson or even tolston from osu as well.the cowboys have alot of talented ball players who will be entering the draft in 2010, would be nice to see the rams grab a bunch of them that i think could make an impact right away.

— gopokesn09
12:28 am October 23rd, 2009

What games have you people been watching? Bradford??? No way this guy deserves a first pick. He’s a fancy name with a fancy trophy. Even before ‘any’ injuries what has he done? He’s had ‘premier’ talent surrounding him including, backs, receivers, a line. That won’t happen in the NFL and he’ll struggle. I say go for Locker OR pull Null off the bench and save the pick for something else!!

— Eric
5:10 am October 23rd, 2009

Ahh, Senor Censorship speaks! Perhaps, Czar Miklasz, K N-M is rightfully attempting to gather up enough support to rid the P-D of these 85 “experts” who chip in their two cents for topics like these. That’s not a compliment at all.

It appears there are others who commented as well that agree with K N-M (including me).

On a serious note, quit trying to be clever by picking a lesser known QB (LefeVour) to be successful in the NFL and actually do your homework. As a MAC enthusiast, I would like to see him do well. However, being a person who actually watches the games, and THEN comments on them (as opposed to the other way around), I realize (as should you) that LefeVour is a very poor man’s Eric Crouch. If you think I’m wrong, go ahead and name the last dual threat QB to excel in the NFL. (crickets) I thought so.

Дождь, дождь со снегом или снег, Почтальон Wes поставляет правду!!

(FYI.. that’s Russian for, “Rain, sleet or snow, Wes Mailman delivers the truth!!!)

— Wes Mailman
6:57 am October 23rd, 2009

Don’t draft a QB next year, wait until 2010 and draft Ryan Mallet 6′7″ QB from Arkansas

— NFLBUDDAH
7:49 am October 23rd, 2009

Wes

While being accused of “trying to be clever” by someone who posts in Russian is ironic, I must say that your comparison of LeFevour to Crouch is inaccurate. Three inches in height, 40 pounds in weight, twice as many
passes thrown in college with much better accuracy. I do watch the games.
I would also suggest that LeFevour won’t quit after being hit by an NFL player in his first exhibition game. Not a first round pick, perhaps, but the kind of leader that will get a shot in the league.

— Rams67
9:00 am October 23rd, 2009

If we must take a QB I like Locker. That being said I’m not a fan of any of the QB’s coming out this year (I really like Matt Barkley at USC) so I would rather see the Rams go after Sue, Gerald McCoy, Mays, Berry or Haden…botom line go DEFENSE!!! Start building one of the best defenses in the league. After all the saying is true Offense sells tickets BUT DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS and is that what we all want most!? Remember folks if we miss (take the wrong guy cause we NEED a QB) on a QB that can set your club back for YEARS cause of the money and time invested in that particular position is incredibly high!

— LARamAlan
9:57 am October 23rd, 2009

i’m sorry to blow up you guys’ thoughts, but the bottom line is there is not one QB worth taking in the top 5. tebow is a great college player, but that will not expand into the NFL. bradford and mccoy are too small and would’nt last long. clausen oh my gosh where do i begin. another montana? no way in hell is he anyway near that great in talent. he will be a total bust like so many ND qbs. the rams are just going to have to move in another direction because there is no ryan or flaco in this bunch.

— tommy2
10:45 am October 23rd, 2009

Wow, these were a lot of interesting comments. Bernie is right, the question was what QB would you take. My choice would be Locker. That being said, we don’t know where the Rams are going to draft (1 through 6). It’s very seldom that one team will trade up into the top three picks so that probably is not going to happen. Everyone is right about the Rams picks from Nebraska. Safety is not one of our biggest needs at this time. So what to do? There probably isn’t a player that’s worth the #2 pick in this years draft. So whoever we pick, they MUST be an impact player. We gotta play Null to see what he can do. Would you trade for Quinn or Leinhart? This front office has their homework cut out for them this offseason.

— bigramfan
11:17 am October 23rd, 2009

Reading the feature on Peyton Manning today made me realize that IF we take a “QB of the future” next year (I’m still against targeting a QB in the first round), we need to focus on intelligence and work ethic. I believe that these two things set QBs like Manning and Matt Ryan apart. I remember hearing how impressed Atlanta was when Ryan came in for an interview, and started diagramming plays off the top of his head on a white board. So, my vote (like THAT counts :)) is for whichever of these equally talented quarterbacks demonstrates the best native intelligence, and has shown the best discipline for game-day preparation.

— Sam in Dallas
12:28 pm October 23rd, 2009

Aren’t there any Trung Canidate types available?

Seriously though - I think the Rams need a stud, game-breaking WR first. I would love for them to be able to pick up a decent QB in the 2nd round - not sure if Locker would be there or not. A great run-stopper like Suh would be awesome too, but I’m leary of Nebraska guys…

The thing that’s concerning is that we’re spending a TON of money because we keep having the top first or two picks every year… who demand a lot of money before taking even one snap. This trend has to stop…

— Ram-a-lama-ding-dong
2:58 pm October 23rd, 2009

ANYONE BUT BULGER……….HE IS SO AFRAID OF A PICK HE SECOND GUESSES ALL OF HIS THROWS. THE RESULT, HE EITHER GETS SACKED OR THROWS TOO LATE ON TIMING PATTERNS. LAST GAME THE COLOR GUY EVEN SHOWED THAT BULGER HAD 3 RECIEVERS OPEN AND ENDED UP THROWING A GROUNDER TO JACKSON.

HIS LACK OF EMOTION IS DISTURBING.

— John
3:03 pm October 23rd, 2009

Too early to tell but Bradford to me is the best if the injuries check out. Not sure after Bradford. Don’t even think about Tebow though.
People worry about our OL but have we really haven’t been giving up too many sacks this year? I say go for a QB first and make sure we give the guy some protection with the schemes. God knows we’ve paid enough money for the OL. A few receivers that can get open will help also and more depth at DE so we might actually put consistent pressure. We need a lot of draft picks so Devaney/Spags needs to wheel and deal as much as possible to get us back to a Contender!

— tbone
3:48 pm October 23rd, 2009

And, someone please tell me why Hal McRae is still employed as the Cardinal’s Hitting Coach? The season is over and he can be fired now, so, what IS the holdup? Someone has got to be held accountable for the pathetic hitting that stopped the post-season short.

— brad bird
12:04 pm October 24th, 2009