Beware Sabermetrics!!!!

Yeah, what do the sabermetrics tell us?

Does Keith Law get a vote?

So we know Keith Law will probably not even have Pujols on his ballot…

Actually, looking at ESPN, he leads most of the sabermetrics as well. Looks like it’s a slam dunk.

I compared Pujols, Utely and Ramirez in games where they faced pitchers with ERA’s over 4.00 and outfielders with an average fielding percentage below .995 and found that, with the wind blowing out and an average attendence of over 15,000, Pujols edges the other two in all catagories. However, I give the nod to Ramirez because he was playing behind a below average pitching staff.

ANDRE DAWSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ryan Howard should get it no question about it he tore it up down the stretch and his team went the world series and lets face it Pujols chocked the last 2 months of the season when it counted. Thats hard to say being a huge cardinal fan

I will be the first to post it here, c71read is wrong.
First of all the votes are cast before the post season begins.
Second, Pujols CLEARLY has the best numbers.
I had no problem admitting that Lincecum was as logical a choice as Wainwright or Carpenter, but here Albert is the ONLY logical choice.
Period.

The folks who vote for Ryan Howard, because of his stats in September and October, are no doubt the same voters who chose Linecum because of the way he finished the season with the Giants contending for the Wild Card - 5-5 after the All-Star game…

There’s no way Ryan Howard should get it. Yes Albert had a HR drought in September, but he carried the Cards all by himself before the trades. He’s just the best all around player. MVP hands down, no vote needed for that.

jfmoyn: Now you’re beginning to sound like Jay Randolph!

You know him, Mr. “I’ve Got Stats Just Waiting To Be Told On-Air”.

Randolph: the announcer, who during the 1st spring training game after CH5 reacquired tv rights, mistook Chris Duncan catching the 3rd out in LF for Chris Carpenter.

Randolph: who shouted “Cards win” after the 3rd out in the top of the 9th inning in Montreal when the Expos still had an at-bat coming up.

Randolph: who blamed “Ma Bell” (read that AT&T) when a picture was lost, but thanked MCI for their telecast after a game.

Worst sports announcer - EVER. He should go back to his announcing chores for that non-sport - Golf.

All I’ve gotta say it that it better be Pujols. Hands down.

Actually, Pujols leads almost all categories in the SABR realm, too.

In fact, they’re probably the BIGGEST supporter of Pujols being the best player in the game.

Perhaps if people started opening their minds a little, then they’ll realize some of these things (like, Franklin Gutierrez is a far better defender than Adam Jones, Tim Lincecum is really good, and Ryan Howard is worse than Prince Fielder, Adrian Gonzalez, AND Derreck Lee. By a lot.)

Pujols should and will win the award, but it pains me to think that Chase Utley is still so underrated. If he finishes in the top 5 tomorrow, it will be a huge surprise, especially since he has been the second best player, right up there with Pujols. He is so underrated and underappreciated by those around the game that it is laughable. When will the guy get his due?

I don’t know, Bernie and Goold amke a good arguement with Utley. Not only did have have a big season, he was the main reason they went 6 in the World Series. While I still love Albert and think he deserves it for essentailly being the entire offense for the first half the season, I won’t be surprised or upset if it goes to Utley. He certainly is deserving.

Thanks for the critique Russ. I’ll work on my delivery. I’m hoping for a job offer from ESPN.

A very, very strong argument could be made for Utley. You can find a lot of first baseman who can hit the ball extremely well. People have mentioned some of them here already: Prince Fielder, Ryan Howard, Adrian Gonzalez, etc. None are obviously quite as good as Pujols, but it’s a position that is stocked with talent.

Second base on the other hand… not so much. Utley is a monster offensively at a position where that skill is very, very scarce. That alone makes him one of the most valuable players in baseball, because it allows his team to still stock the other typical power positions (like 1B).

And please, can we give up on the whole “LOLZ, DOES KEITH LAW HAVE A BALLOT, HE’S SO STUPID HURRRR”?

Who knows after last weeks of Law’s reasoning of stupidity?

Any voter who does not give Albert the first place vote should be shot (*wink *wink).

The NL MVP discussion starts and ends with Pujols.

Hey, quit touting Utley. maybe we can pick him up cheap and win the Series next year!

Keith Law will probably vote for Milton Bradley.

Enough of the OPS, Slugging, and RBIs…

What was his Eqa, LIPS, TPR, or his WARP?

…Hope he ’sabers’ the moment

Guess they do not look at hustle to first.

Tim:

Beware sabermetrics, damned sabermetics and statistics!

They probably will give it to Barry Bonds!

Chase Utley is an excellent player surrounded by very good teammates, but his numbers drop off considerably in the second half. Didn’t realize MVP’s are awarded based on it being “ones turn”. Neither of Utley’s MVP teammates were the most deserving player when they won the award, so I suppose that means Utley is due to be rewarded for previous snubs by the BBWAA.

After the “SIGH” Young voting they may give it to Ron Santo.

He is the only choice in my book those other players were great don’t get me wrong but if Pujols was to leave last years team I highly doubt we would have made it to the playoffs, his role is just to big to fill.

GO CARDS!!!

I find it funny that people don’t like sabermetrics. If they (sabermetricians) had their way, Pujols would have won the 06 MVP instead of Howard.

I’m sure Keith Law’s got someone other than Pujols.

The award should go to Pujols, hands down. Having said that… brace yourselves for the award going to Utley. I’m never getting caught up in expecting an award again after the whole “Sigh” Young ripoff.

keith law votes Pablo Sandoval

Would it surprise anyone else if the phenomenally gifted and knowledgeable sportswriters give it to “I need more doobie coin” Lincecum?

Don’t forget the east coast, west coast writers and ESPN won’t vote for him. Sad state of affairs when these guys, whom have never had a strap on get a vote.

Hey I’m from Missouri so you’re gonna have to SHOW ME! After the geek revenge Cy Young vote as much as I hope Albert is a shoe-in I just can’t vote the house note money on it anymore.

Keith Law will not vote for Pujols.

FLASH: St. Louis Mayor Frankie Slay tonite issued an emergency evacuation order for all St. Louisians should Albert not win the MVP award. “The feeling is,” Mayor Frankie said, “that should Albert not win his third MVP, St. Louisians may do more than just cry in their beer. In fact, should it happen, we’re anticipating a virtual flood of tears that could literally wash half the city’s residents — some of whom may not even be Cardinal fans — into some of our fine various waterways, such as the River des Peres, the Meramec or the Mighty Miss…So we want to be prepared, and thus, I am issuing an emergency evacuation order for all city residents effective immediately upon the commencement of the MVP announcement. Thank you very much, and good luck, Albert.”

As with everyone at ESPN, well-known Cardinal hater Keith Law picked Albert, so we can be assured it’s a lock.

Remember when Keith Law argued Andrew Jones should have won it over Pujols a bit back? He’s a goofball, so I bet he does vote elsewhere. Pujols should have won this award at least a couple more times than he has. Bonds MVP should be taken away. He didn’t deserve it even if you ignore the steroids. The guy is a monster, not a machine. They should stop giving out an MVP and place a crown on Pujols head. Then bring the MVP award back out when he retires.

However, to commenter “aaron”, don’t knock Kung Fu Panda. That guy is a fantasy keeper of mine and he rocks. I give him the MAP award. Most Awesome Panda.

if you ignore steroids, Barry Bonds is the greatest player of all time. By far the most feared hitter ever. That guys on base % was 600+. It’s almost comical.