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01.06.2009 1:37 pm

So what’s Pujols worth?

THE WATERCOOLER

The New York Yankees today completed their eight-year, $180 million deal with first baseman Mark Teixeira. With that in mind, we posed the following scenario to our writers:

QUESTION: Teixeira’s contract with the Yankees resets the bar for Albert Pujols, who is currently operating on a seven-year, $100 million deal. The two players are separated in age by just 3 months and play the same position. Pujols is signed through 2010 with a club option for 2011. Should the Cardinals be working on extending Pujols’ contract right now, and if so, what do you think it would take?

JOE STRAUSS
The market has not gone down for superstar players in the modern era. Teixeira’s Annual Average Value of $22.5 million is fairly representative of what many believe El Hombre would command if he negotiated an extension today. Pujols obviously has had a more impressive career than Tex. By renegotiating the last 2-plus years on his remaining deal, the club might receive a break going forward while bumping his ’09 and ’10 salaries. To make Albert a “Cardinal for life” would likely start at eight years, $200 million. Much is unknown about the next three years. Pujols enjoys playing for La Russa, who is unsigned beyond this year. There is much to suggest the process could become much more complicated as time passes.

RICK HUMMEL
The Cardinals, before too much longer, should explore extending Pujols’ contract before somebody comes along and gets one even bigger than Teixeira’s. It might take $200 million for eight years, in Albert’s case, or at least six years at $150 million.

JEFF GORDON
Since the Cardinals will certainly pick up Albert’s contract option in 2011, the club can wait until after this season to discuss an extension. Approaching him with two years left seems like the ideal timetable. The club will have a better idea of where top prospect Brett Wallace stands. If Albert becomes determined to test the market and go for the highest dollar, then Wallace would become the first baseman in waiting. He, as Albert did, would have to bide his time at third base or in left field. If Albert wants to test the market, the Cards would have to trade him rather than risk losing him for a compensatory pick. If Albert wants to extend his deal, the Cards should consider tacking on about three years and $75 million before the 2010 season. That extension would give Albert what he deserves and allow the club to deal Wallace if it becomes apparent he really can’t play anywhere but first base.

DERRICK GOOLD
When reports of Teixeira’s deal with the Yankees began circulating, I received a brief email from an agent: “Very good for Pujols.” Good is putting it mildly. This was a jackpot. And Teixeira is just the beginning. Within the next month, Ryan Howard will set all sorts of arbitration records and help further define the escalating cost of a player like Pujols. Follow the trends, and it’s plausible that Pujols will be the first player to receive a contract with an annual average salary of $30 million. That’s what the current market says for the best hitter in the league. But the Cardinals don’t need to let this market set Pujols’ price. They have time on their side. Well, one year on their side. It would make sense to begin discussing an extension with Pujols a year from now, when that 2011 option looms and free agency beckons. Give the market a year. Give the elbow year. Give him another year or two to win another MVP or two. And then pay the toll. The Cardinals have deferred so much of his salary that they are already paying him through … what, 2029? What’s another decade?

DAN O’NEILL
Comparing Teixeira’s deal with Pujols’ deal is apples and oranges. Teixeira became a free agent this winter and cashed in. That’s the way it works; timing is the operative factor. In 2005, Teixeira had 43 home runs, 144 RBIs, a .301 average and he made $3.6 million; Pujols had 41 home runs, 117 RBIs, .330 average and he made $11 million. Was that fair? Yeah, because Pujols was fresh into a new deal. Trying to keep up with salaries from one signing period to the next is like trying to keep up with computer operating systems. You fall behind almost as soon as you walk out of the store.

The Cardinals don’t need to start negotiating with Pujols now, that’s why you gave him so much money for so many years, that’s what the player gives up when he asks for so much for so many years. The Cardinals have an option on Pujols for 2011, meaning he is locked up for three seasons. Perhaps it would be prudent to approach Pujols about an extension, but given the physical problems he has had the past two seasons, it makes more sense to wait.

What’s more, in the current environment, with people at A-B losing jobs, with so many experiencing tough times, it is poor form, if not flat insulting, for any of MLB team to be throwing sick sums of money at players. If Pujols feels slighted, all he need do is try to get by on the $16 million per year he gets for the next three seasons and become a free agent. Then people in New York will be asking if it’s fair that Pujols is making so much more money than Teixeira.

EDITOR’S NOTE: Derrick Goold wrote an excellent piece on Pujols vs. Teixeira a couple weeks back when news of the Teixeira signing first began to trickle out. In case you missed it, here’s a link to that piece, which you’ll find in Birdland.

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MIDDAY NEWS AND THOUGHTS

THERE’S TALKING, AND THERE’S DOING: Just what is slowing up the Rams’ process in finding a new head coach? Nine days into their quest, the Rams have interviewed just one candidate — Green Bay assistant head coach-linebackers coach Winston Moss.

Contrast that to the Denver Broncos, who canned Mike Shanahan just days ago. First, they are not dragging their feet getting candidates in for talks. Second, they’re aiming high with some of the bigger-name up-and-comers. Sure, they gave an obligatory interview to the team’s offensive coordinator under Shanahan, Rick Dennison. But the Broncos already have interviewed Tampa Bay defensive coordinator Raheem Morris, New York Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo and New England offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels. They plan to meet today with Dallas offensive coordinator Jason Garrett. And they will interview Minnesota’s Leslie Frazier on Wednesday. (Yeah, the same Leslie Frazier the Rams are talking about talking with for their vacancy.)

Chip’s said he’s got the checkbook out, so what’s with the lack of actual interviews? Meanwhile, Rams scouts continue to wander the lands wondering just what kind of player their next coach may want.

IT’S A TOUGH MARKET: Former NFL star Michael Vick — currently serving a 23-month prison sentence for a federal dogfighting conspiracy — has asked a bankruptcy judge to allow him to sell his eight-bedroom home near Atlanta via auction. It appears Vick is having financial troubles, and even though realtors have shown the house more than 30 times, according to the Associated Press, the $4.1 million price tag is just too high. So now Vick’s lawyers want to sell it to the highest bidder at auction. Anyone planning a move to Atlanta? I hear the place even comes with a Michael Vick Fathead already installed.

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THINGS TO PONDER

I TOLD YOU SO: I was panned on this blog about a month ago when I said the Chargers made a huge mistake letting Drew Brees just walk away for nothing. Some thought I was comparing him to Philip Rivers (I wasn’t, though I would prefer Brees on my team). I was simply saying the Chargers made a mistake letting Brees simply walk as a free agent. He’s absolutely revitalized the team in New Orleans. Still, many slings and arrows were tossed at Brees (and me) in comments to this blog. So it is with great joy that I announce to you:

Brees was voted The Associated Press 2008 NFL Offensive Player of the Year award today.
Brees threw for 5,069 yards, 15 fewer than Dan Marino’s 1984 mark — which is only the second time in history someone has eclipsed 5,000 yards passing in a season. Heh, heh, heh.

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STAT OF THE DAY

3 1/2 — Points Florida is favored by over Oklahoma in Thursday’s BCS Championship game.

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12.05.2008 12:41 pm

What’s next on Cards checklist?

THE WATERCOOLER
(Post-Dispatch columnists and beat writers share their thoughts on a question of the day.)

Question: Now that the Cardinals have addressed two areas of need with Trever Miller and Khalil Greene, what do you think their top priority should be heading into the Winter Meetings?

JOE STRAUSS
Nobody asked me (until now), but I believe the need for greater depth in the starting rotation has been the most understated of all the team’s needs to date. Much will depend on the true finding regarding Chris Carpenter’s nerve condition. Many believe it implausible, even given a positive outlook, that the club count on Carpenter’s season-long availability in the same way it banked on his return along with Mark Mulder near last July’s non-waiver trade deadline.

With the possible exception of Mitchell Boggs, there is no ready depth within the minor leagues. Dave Duncan believes Kyle McClellan’s future may be in the rotation. But even so, without another dependable starter on board, the Cardinals dangerously resemble the 2007 bunch that crumbled following Carpenter’s Opening Day exit. Hyperventilating prospect geeks can’t even cite Jaime Garcia and Mike Parisi, since both are rehabbing from surgery. It is more than coincidence that the Cardinals won 205 games in 2004-05 while coming within one out of leading the NL in ERA in consecutive years. It is also no coincidence that they have been less than a .500 team since Mulder’s shoulder concerns became obvious in May 2006.

RICK HUMMEL
The Cardinals’ top priority is to get a second baseman in a market that seems to be loaded with them, either through free agency or the possibility of trade. Orlando Hudson, though injured at the end of the last two seasons, would be at the top of my list.

DERRICK GOOLD
Starting pitching. Can never have enough starting pitching. That is especially true for the Cardinals, who will huddle around Carpenter’s medical reports as if they were opening a Wonka Bar and hoping this one has the Golden Ticket. But the mid-market of starting pitchers the Cardinals are eyeing (think: Andy Pettitte, Randy Wolf, Braden Looper) will be slow to develop and could inch into January. So this week the Cardinals must look for the best way to radically upgrade their roster: a productive second baseman (via trade) or a short-term, sure-thing closer for the ninth inning (read: Kerry Wood).

BERNIE MIKLASZ
I’d like to see the Cardinals upgrade at 2B, and I wish the organization would be more aggressive in its search for a starting pitcher. I just don’t see how they can bank on having Carpenter in the rotation; will he be healthy and durable? They need protection for their rotation, and they should reach higher instead of settling for the usual low-hanging fruit.

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MIDDAY NEWS AND THOUGHTS

BRING ON THE BABY BLUES: T.J. Oshie is expected to return to the ice tonight vs. Calgary after missing 13 games with a high-ankle sprain. Oshie practiced Thursday on a line with Patrik Berglund and David Perron. It should be fun to watch the Baby Blues on a line together as we get a glimpse of the future. Blues beat writer Jeremy Rutherford did me the favor this morning of asking the three what they think about playing on a line together. Here’s what they had to say:

PERRON: “It’s going to be fun. We all like to cycle the puck. When I’m in the defensive zone and the other team is cycling the puck, it’s pretty hard to cover all the guys at once. As soon as you beat one guy, that means there’s something open. For me, when I cycle the puck and I beat a guy, I’m looking right away to the slots to see if one of those guys are open. I feel that Bergy and Oshie think the same way for sure. I think all the guys like to cycle the puck, but maybe it’s just some chemistry that we have because we’re young.”

OSHIE: “I’m very excited. It’s always fun playing with those guys. We’ve got some chemistry going, just from development camps and things like that, playing together. I think we complement each other well. So hopefully if we’re all moving our feet and we’re all working hard, I think we’ll be fine out there. We all three like to cycle and we all three have offensive minds to make plays, but I think we’re pretty smart on the defensive side of the puck. I think it’s a good mixture. Hopefully Bergy and Perry will be putting the puck in the net tonight.”

BERGLUND: “I think it’s going to be good. We’re around the same age, and I think it’s kind of easier to understand each other. I think like Perry and Oshie said, we like to cycle the puck and create a lot of speed and bring the puck to the net. It will be an energy line that keeps the puck in the offensive zone. . . . We are three players who have hockey sense. It’s easy to play around guys who have that because they know what they have to do all the time.”

MIZZOU HAS NO CHANCE: That’s what columnist Berry Tramel of The Oklahoman implies today — barring a monumental upset of course. Tramel reports that Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops is the king of the Big 12 title game and he doesn’t see that changing tomorrow. Based on recent performances it might be hard to argue with him … so should Mizzou not bother even showing up at Arrowhead? Upsets are part of the game and Mizzou players and fans know that up-close following last week’s loss to Kansas. I guess that’s why they play the games, no?

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A FEW THINGS TO PONDER

HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN: I see a lot sports writers complaining about the chaotic formula of the BCS and how flawed that system is, but perhaps a few of these guys need to take a look in the mirror. How can Texas quarterback Colt McCoy be good enough to be voted The Associated Press’ Big 12 offensive player of the year, yet, according to AP voters, not be the best QB in the Big 12? That honor went to Oklahoma’s Sam Bradford.

Like my dad is fond of saying, “I may not be the smartest guy in the world, but if I had a dollar for everyone that was dumber than me I’d be a rich man.”

IT’S GOOD TO HAVE A BACKUP PLAN … AND A FAT WALLET: According to the New York Daily News, Yankees general manager Brian Cashman has begun talks with agent Scott Boras about free agent starting pitcher Derek Lowe. This while Cashman also plans to meet with CC Sabathia this weekend in hopes of getting the pitcher signed before the winter meetings begin. The Yankees have reportedly offered Sabathia, this year’s biggest free agent pitching jewel, a deal somewhere in the six-year, $140 million range.

I tire of hearing all the crying and big market/small market excuses from teams about not having the money to compete. This is the big leagues … either you can compete or you can’t. And you can disparage the Yankees all you want for always trying to “buy their championships.” But if any fans of any team honestly can tell me they wouldn’t want their team to do the same, I contend those fans are not being honest with themselves.

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STAT OF THE DAY

5,160 – Yards passing Saints quarterback Drew Brees is on pace for right now. That would be a new single-season league high. Dan Marino currently holds the record with 5,084 yards in 1984. Think the 5-8 Chargers ever regret letting Brees go?

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