Will Tkachuk be a Hall of Famer?
THE WATERCOOLER
QUESTION: Keith Tkachuk has been a hot topic in St. Louis lately as Blues fans wonder whether or not the 36-year-old forward will be dealt away at the trade deadline. Tkachuk’s career numbers consist of 500-plus goals, 500-plus assists and 1,000-plus points in 1,113 NHL games. My question is this: Do those numbers make Tkachuk a sure-fire Hall of Famer when he retires?
JEREMY RUTHERFORD
There have been 39 players in the history of the NHL to score 500 goals and net 500 assists, including Keith Tkachuk. Twenty-two of those are already in the Hall of Fame and 13 more aren’t eligible yet but have a great shot. That’s 35 of 39, with Dino Ciccarelli, Dave Andreychuk, Pat Verbeek and Pierre Turgeon the exceptions. Tkachuk’s lack of playoff success will hurt his resume, but in my opinion, he’s a HOF. He dominated at his position for more than a decade.
JEFF GORDON
I believe he is still on the bubble, despite the gaudy career stat totals. When he hit the 500-goal mark, he reached 40th on the all-time list. Not bad, but that doesn’t make him a lock. He doesn’t have the championship team thing going for him. Bernie Federko and Dale Hawerchuk overcame that, but it is difficult. There are a LOT of long-running scorers in the game today, guys like Joe Sakic, Mike Modano, Mark Recchi, Brendan Shanahan, Teemu Selanne, Jeremy Roenick, Sergei Fedorov. Will there be room for everybody some day? That is tough to say. My advice: Accept a deal to a contender and then go win a Stanley Cup.
DAN O’NEILL
Difficult question. Most of those who scored 500-or-more goals or had 1,000-or-more points are in the Hall of Fame, or will be in the Hall of Fame. But it is not a slam dunk. Dino Ciccarelli had 608 goals and is not in. Dave Taylor had well over 1,000 points and is not in. Is Mark Recchi HOF material?
Tkachuk was the top power forward in the league during the mid-1990s and scored 50-or-more goals twice. He currently ranks 34th all time in goals scored, tied with Dale Hawerchuk, who is in the HOF, and “Walt” has 1,019 points. At the same time, he has not been on a Stanley Cup winner. That fact, along with a fitness-related suspension some years back, taint his numbers for some. But if he plays another season or two, he could be in the 550-goal neighborhood and among the NHL’s top 20-something in the category.
Given he hasn’t been in trouble for exposing himself — like Ciccarelli — he would have to get strong consideration — and I would vote “yes.”
If nothing else, he is definitely in my Winnipeg Jets Hall of Fame, right alongside Scott Campbell.
TOM TIMMERMANN
My first impulse is to say, sure, Keith Tkachuk is a sure-fire Hall of Famer. I’ve never been one for thresholds, or that passing certain numbers makes you an automatic, because times change, and 500 goals or assists doesn’t punch your ticket. I was looking at the NHL’s all-time points leaders — where Tkachuk was 74th at the start of the season. And ahead of him are guys who had more goals or more assists who aren’t in the Hall. Bernie Nicholls, for instance, or Dave Taylor. Dino Ciccarelli had 608 goals and 592 assists and he’s not in the Hall, though he did enough off the ice to make voters reluctant to vote him in.
Ultimately, Tkachuk gets bonus points for being the first American to lead the NHL in scoring and he’s one of the few players to have 50 goals and 200 penalty minutes in a season. He’s a pain to deal with in front of the goal. His points per game, .933 at the start of the season, is pretty good, especially considering some of the dead puck eras he played in. I don’t think he’ll go in on his first try, though a lot depends on who else is on the ballot and if the Hall has a backlog of players. But I fully expect he’ll get in eventually.
KEVIN WHEELER (Host of “Sports Open Line” on KMOX)
Unquestionably yes. Walt is in the top 35 on the all-time goals list, ahead of Hall of Fame snipers like Gilbert Perreault, Jean Beliveau, Joe Mullen and Glenn Anderson. He’s is in the top 70 all-time in points, ahead of greats like Pat LaFontaine, Maurice Richard and Bobby Orr. Tkachuk also is just on the outside looking in on the top 100 in assists.
Oh, and he’s been more than just an offensive player. Tkachuk is closing in on ranking in the top 40 all-time in penalty minutes and has done a nice job defensively in recent years as well.
But wait, there’s more. He’s the only American born player to lead the league in scoring (1996-97 with 52 goals), he’s a 5-time All-Star, 4-time Olympian and he won a gold medal in the World Cup of Hockey (1996).
Case closed.
ANDY STRICKLAND (Hockeybuzz.com, Team 1380)
The question asks if Keith Tkachuk is a “sure” Hall of Famer. The answer is no, he’s not considered a lock. With that being said, he will eventually find his way in. Recently I asked several prominent people who cover the NHL (99% were Canadian) to anonymously give me their opinion on whether or not Tkachuk is a Hall of Famer. The majority responded by saying no. Look, if Dino Cicceralli isn’t in the Hall with a resume that includes 600-plus goals and 1,200 points, then I don’t quite understand the criteria.
Tkachuk has had an outstanding playing career, and let’s not forget this is the Hockey Hall of Fame not the NHL Hall of Fame. In my opinion his credentials will eventually be considered HOF worthy. A four-time Olympian, he became the first U.S.-born player to lead the NHL in goals and he’s one of only a small handful of NHL players to ever tally 50 goals and record 200 penalty minutes in the same season. There was a time during his days in Phoenix when he was considered the most intimidating power forward in the game. When people criticize Tkachuk they bring up his lack of post-season success. He had never won a playoff round before being traded to the Blues. The bottom line here is that Tkachuk will go down as one of the greatest American-born players to ever play. He’s a major part of an American core that includes Chris Chelios, Brian Leetch, Mike Modano, and Brett Hull. The only difference here is all those guys have won Stanley Cups. The fact Tkachuk is American will actually work in his favor as the HOF could use more American representation.
The stats don’t lie: He’s a five-time all star, a two-time 50 goal scorer, over 500 career goals and assiits, and was a Captain for parts of eight seasons. I should point out that 500 goals is not considered an automatic the way 500 home runs are in MLB (before the steroid era.) Tkachuk may not go in the HOF his first year of eligibility, but as some point I believe he’ll get the call.
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MIDDAY NEWS AND THOUGHTS
HE’S BOSTON’S PROBLEM NOW: Surprise, surprise. Boston fans are starting to show their impatience with outfielder J.D. Drew. Why would that be? It’s a rhetorical question, because any St. Louis baseball fan knows the answer to that. It’s because of Drew’s constant injuries and the perceived lack of passion with which he plays the game. How many times did Drew draw the wrath of Cardinal fans for the same reasons? But hold on a minute, says Boston Globe columnist Dan Shaughnessy, if you ever met J.D. Drew you would like him.
Is this the bulldog, East coast media we hear so much about for being so tough and hardened? If you met Drew you’d like him? Really, that’s it? I’m betting fans in Boston would like Drew much more if he could ever just get 600 at-bats in a season … just like the fans in St. Louis would have appreciated him more for the same reason.
Nice guy. Sheesh.
ELWAY AND THE RIGHT WAY: Two Super Bowl rings and countless records in the NFL history books define former-Bronco QB John Elway to many folks. But if you want to know what makes a player a real hero, you’ve got to read this Rick Reilly column on ESPN.com. I always admired Elway as a player, now I admire him even more.
SOMETHING TO PONDER
ASYLUM MEMBERS, TAKE A BOW: I’m not really sure how this can be, but … looking ahead to the Blues game vs. Dallas Thursday, I was wondering what Dallas fans might be saying about the Blues. After all, the Blues trail the 7th-place Stars by just 5 points in the standings. So I go to the Stars fan talk forum at the Dallas Morning News and I see that the last posting on the Stars forum was from Monday, Sept. 22 — and that posting is about an upcoming dodgeball game in the area. Are you kidding me? If you don’t believe me, hit the Dallas Morning News link I’ve provided above. With that kind of support, how do they keep a hockey team in that Cowboy town?
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STAT OF THE DAY
18 — Most “major” tournaments won by a professional golfer — Jack Nicklaus. In honor of Tiger Wood’s return to the PGA Tour today, we look at the list of those golfers holding the most victories in the majors events (Masters, U.S. Open, British Open, PGA championship.) Players must have won at least five such events to qualify for this list.
Jack Nicklaus — 18
Tiger Woods — 14
Walter Hagen — 11
Ben Hogan — 9
Gary Player — 9
Tom Watson — 8
Bobby Jones — 7
Arnold Palmer — 7
Gene Sarazen — 7
Sam Snead — 7
Harry Vardon — 7
Nick Faldo — 6
Lee Trevino — 6
Seve Ballesteros — 5
James Braid — 5
Byron Nelson — 5
J.H. Taylor — 5
Peter Thomson — 5

