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10.17.2008 12:26 pm

Guest Post: To Joe the Plumber from Scott the Preacher

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Scott Lohse, pastor of St. Martin’s United Church of Christ in Dittmer, Mo., won our “Five Minutes with a Candidate” contest and will guest blog here through the election.

I guess you are experiencing a wildfire of instant and fleeting fame after being referred to so much in Wednesday night’s presidential campaign debate! In fact you may or may not realize this, but I just looked at the web site CafePress.com and noticed they are even selling Joe the Plumber T-shirts already.

The shirt I liked the most says, “Support Joe the Plumber because our economy is in the toilet.” A close second, however, is the shirt that says “No more drips in the White House.” I suppose you have already heard all of the plumber humor that you can bear.

You were selected as a prototypical person who might be able to succeed in your own small business if the U.S. tax code were to provide the proper climate for you. You have not made an endorsement yet in the current campaign, but you have made it pretty clear that if you ever were to earn a quarter-million dollars a year, you would not want for it to place you into a higher tax bracket.

Joe, I have to tell you that I feel your pain. I actually know a number of small business owners and they feel that a good deal of hard earned money constantly goes for operating expenses. As difficult as it can sometimes be to earn a living in this climate, I have to say that I have always subscribed to the notion that the customer is No. 1.

By that, I mean the best thing for the small business owner would be a healthy economy. That would help the greatest number of people fare well, so they have the resources they need. And they can feel like they can afford the services and goods you have to offer them.

Here is the thing Joe: I am looking for something new in the tax structure of our great nation that will stop awarding the best breaks to just a few people at the top and building on the backs of the majority.

I hope you do get your license to become a plumber Joe, and that you do make six figures.

I wish you well, but I believe that the current mess that our economy is in is due to people who already have more than they need always seeking to get more. Meanwhile, others, who cannot even afford health care and do not have any one to speak up for them, truly suffer.

Our system is broken, Joe, because the numbers of the poor and those on food stamps are growing while those who are wealthy continue to get more exclusive. Take heart, Joe, this economy is a drain on all of us.

So, here’s the question: Do you think that Americans have it within ourselves to look at the current state of affairs and ask, “What is best for everyone?” and not just, “What is best for me?”

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Wow! Looks like I hit a nerve on this one, or rather the candidates have. No one loves to pay taxes - in fact the Gospel lesson in most worship services this weekend will allude to the fact that even in the time of Christ tax collectors were judged pretty harshly! We pay them though because we need the things that they provide as a community. It looks to me like the few people who have the most are benefiting from the current arrangement of things while the rest of us fight with one another and are victimized. Joe the plumber you are a victim too because you aspire to something that looks like it is beyond your reach while you struggle to be satisfied with what you have. I read somewhere that the plumber said all he really wants is a house, a bass boat and a couple of guns. That seems like a reasonable dream but there is more to life Joe. I think that the current state of affairs has shown us that we are all in the same ‘boat’ together and someone needs to speak up for the folks who are up the creek without a paddle…

— Pastor Scott
3:03 pm October 17th, 2008

I would just add that “What is best for me” may mean taking a job that I don’t like, working or working harder, saving or saving more and spending less.

— RosieO
3:04 pm October 17th, 2008

Stay tuned, by the way: next week I plan to report to you here about a meeting I recently attended with a pension planner about health care insurance and also a lunch I plan to have with a Christian CEO of a brokerage firm.

— Pastor Scott
3:06 pm October 17th, 2008

From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. Right Pastor?

— jjk
3:07 pm October 17th, 2008

Scott, I guess I don’t quite get what your trying to say. I don’t want to know what your income is and will not tell what mine is. I have been in a small to medium size business for 24 years now. I’m a registered Republican and donate to many organizations including the Republican party. Your comment is totally unfounded and I can assure you that I will not starve not matter what anyone else is eating. I hope you are not in any kind of retail business with your nasty attitude. I can’t even figure out why you came back with such foolish comments. I think you need to read my post again. There is something there that you are not getting.

— first tom
3:12 pm October 17th, 2008

Just for the record, Scott isn’t deleting comments. I am. Got a problem, take it up with me. If you follow the Rules of the Road, you can have all the First Amendment rights you want — including criticizing me. But if you make personal attacks, use racist hate speech, go off topic, your comment will be deleted.

Now, review the Rules of the Road…the link is on every post, just below the comment box. Let’s get back to the point.

— Kurt Greenbaum
3:19 pm October 17th, 2008

I Predict,

Shouldn’t you stop reading the Post if you hate it so? Or do you really like it and are just afraid to let your liberal self show?

Of course, all information must be viewed in partisan terms and Rev. Scott is a Thought Nazi as long as he says and acts in ways that run counter to my partisan view.

— Kendall's Tau
3:21 pm October 17th, 2008

Rev. Scott,

Good points, but you should have mentioned that shared prosperity benefits Joe in the long run. The community and the individual are not mutually exclusive. If he’s running his plumbing business, he needs customers and lots of them. If they’re better off, then they can better choose to update their pipes or remodel their bathroom.

— take a deep breath
3:26 pm October 17th, 2008

‘I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.’

Winston Churchill

— profff
3:26 pm October 17th, 2008

A lot of the “taxing the wealthiest more = socialism” type of comments seem to be largely based on severe misconceptions and assumptions.

Firstly, many Joe the Plumber supporters are acting like a system of taxation is an entirely new concept never seen in America. Taxation is not socialism folks, it is a key part of Capitalism and it has enabled our country to build itself and prosper. “Taxation without Representation!” was the cry of the revolutionaries, not “Down with Taxes!”

Your elected representatives decide how tax revenue is dispensed and spent, and it is spread among many, many programs that benefit you indirectly and directly. So the belief that Barrack Obama will personally sit in th White House and decide how every tax dollar is spent is laughable.

Which leads to my next point, which is a huge - and false - assumption that the “socialism” argument is built on. The increase in taxes to the wealthiest citizens are not going to be handed to non-working, poor people. Yes, programs that help them may see a revenue increase, but nobody has ever once talked about a massive expansion of welfare. Not once.

What the money will go to is a better health care system, a better education system, public works projects that supply jobs, and innovations in energy and science, all of which will benefit wealthy people as well as the mother of five who doesn’t work.

Right now a huge portion of our tax dollars are being spent in Iraq directly benefiting non-Americans who after years of benefiting from your hard work, cannot even get their own government to get organized and build their own country’s infrastructure. Where’s your outrage over that? And it’s now being spent to benefit a Wall Street that went amuck with greed and corruption. Where’s your outrage over that?

Wealth is NOT being “redistributed” to the non-working poor. That is an utterly false notion planted in your heads by a desperate political campaign. What Obama and Biden are proposing are a changed system of taxing and spending, where money is spent more responsibly and in a way that benefits a broader cross-section of America.

I want my money to be spent educating a child whose family can’t afford to educate him - not bombs and bullets, and not rewarding corruption. That’s not socialism - it’s the right thing to do.

— Steve Holt
3:39 pm October 17th, 2008

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