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10.17.2008 12:26 pm

Guest Post: To Joe the Plumber from Scott the Preacher

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Scott Lohse, pastor of St. Martin’s United Church of Christ in Dittmer, Mo., won our “Five Minutes with a Candidate” contest and will guest blog here through the election.

I guess you are experiencing a wildfire of instant and fleeting fame after being referred to so much in Wednesday night’s presidential campaign debate! In fact you may or may not realize this, but I just looked at the web site CafePress.com and noticed they are even selling Joe the Plumber T-shirts already.

The shirt I liked the most says, “Support Joe the Plumber because our economy is in the toilet.” A close second, however, is the shirt that says “No more drips in the White House.” I suppose you have already heard all of the plumber humor that you can bear.

You were selected as a prototypical person who might be able to succeed in your own small business if the U.S. tax code were to provide the proper climate for you. You have not made an endorsement yet in the current campaign, but you have made it pretty clear that if you ever were to earn a quarter-million dollars a year, you would not want for it to place you into a higher tax bracket.

Joe, I have to tell you that I feel your pain. I actually know a number of small business owners and they feel that a good deal of hard earned money constantly goes for operating expenses. As difficult as it can sometimes be to earn a living in this climate, I have to say that I have always subscribed to the notion that the customer is No. 1.

By that, I mean the best thing for the small business owner would be a healthy economy. That would help the greatest number of people fare well, so they have the resources they need. And they can feel like they can afford the services and goods you have to offer them.

Here is the thing Joe: I am looking for something new in the tax structure of our great nation that will stop awarding the best breaks to just a few people at the top and building on the backs of the majority.

I hope you do get your license to become a plumber Joe, and that you do make six figures.

I wish you well, but I believe that the current mess that our economy is in is due to people who already have more than they need always seeking to get more. Meanwhile, others, who cannot even afford health care and do not have any one to speak up for them, truly suffer.

Our system is broken, Joe, because the numbers of the poor and those on food stamps are growing while those who are wealthy continue to get more exclusive. Take heart, Joe, this economy is a drain on all of us.

So, here’s the question: Do you think that Americans have it within ourselves to look at the current state of affairs and ask, “What is best for everyone?” and not just, “What is best for me?”

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It is not over STL. If the ‘it’ you refer to is our country and our economy. It is changing, though, and that is certanily the source of the angst we are sharing in this forum. My post was just expressing the hope that as we do what we must do to sure up our way of life (and I don’t doubt that we will) we don’t just rescue bankers, brokers and business people. Someone needs to help us to remember the uninsured, the working poor, and the disenfranchised. One of the things which scripture does to find assurance when it is not clear where the future is going is to remember the past and mine from it the stories about where deliverance has come before. That is a practice which can help us to keep the faith. Keep the faith STL. Even if you take the scripture out of the equation we have observed how difficult times have brought out the best in people and caused us to pull together. The birth of something new always means that something old is over after all.

— Pastor Scott
7:15 am October 18th, 2008

The reason the system is broken is that there are too many lazy asses laying around waiting for their government hand outs. Those who work hard, manage their money, and have their priorities straight do just fine if the government stays off their back. Taxing success and rewarding laziness will never work - Obama, if elected, will be a dismal failure.

— Jim
7:37 am October 18th, 2008

What is best for everyone is that a socialist Negro not be elected president.

— barack
7:56 am October 18th, 2008

Mr. Lohse,
What is best for everyone? You ask this question of the middle and upper class but why not the lower class? Why are they not also held accountable to this country? I am not talking about the disabled or senior citizens, I’m talking about “Joe the dropout with 5 kids” who never aspired to do anything with his life and never will because people like you want to enable him.

Greed is a sin, I get it, but so is sloth.

— Jmas
8:15 am October 18th, 2008

Pastor Scott, I’ve thought for a long time that a careful reading of the Bible suggests that the Godly society is what we would call socialist today. From the ancient laws about Sabbatical years and years of Jubilee, the gleaning laws you pointed out, up through the early Christian days in Acts (remember what happened to Ananias and Saphira?), I see ’socialism’ throughout scripture.

Thank you for bringing up Karl Barth. A very important Christian thinker for our times. He’s not easy to read today. I’ve often thought that the “Barmen Declaration” is one of the greatest statements of Christian principle in the face of political upheaval ever written. More of us ought to read it.

— hs
8:20 am October 18th, 2008

Scott, hs,

Great, I agree. BUT, you are talking about the ancient state of Israel that had direct access to God through prophets judges etc. You are talking about a THEOCRACY. Ask the liberals here how they feel about that.

In a world where we all agree on how to take care of the poor, and we all agree on WHY, then this would work. Try it forced in a state, and you’ll have to put a totalitarian in power. then what.

— Mike
8:31 am October 18th, 2008

“Jmas” The sin of ’sloth’ also occurred to me as I wrote that last post but I didn’t include it. You are correct, of course - we are humans and we have shortcomings. We have all benefited from the work of others, I suppose.

— Pastor Scott
8:37 am October 18th, 2008

Mike, One more thought: My reading of the Bible tells me that the greatest ire of the Prophets (ever read Amos?) and Jesus was reserved for the wealthy and powerful who failed to use their wealth and power for the benefit of the less fortunate.

Now, whether this happens as a matter of law, or custom, I wonder what a modern day Amos or Elijah would say about those with wealth and power who manipulate the laws and the law makers to benefit themselves?

— hs
8:45 am October 18th, 2008

Whoa! I could have been Joe the Plumber 30 years ago. I worked 16 hour days and within 3 years, this Shawaee Indian went from 1 employee to over 300. That was at the time when th the Savings and loans crashed. I expanded my business, Residential real estate development. I could do that because I was in a good cash position.

I retired when I was 38 when a conglomerate of Investors from Seattle and Anchorage bought my holdings.

The thing Pastor Scott apparently does not understand is that one should help themselves before they can help others. Ihave helped others, he can verify that by a simple fone call to the Jennings School District in Oklahoma. Working with the State, the USDA, and my personal donations, we enabled that school District to go from the bottom in academic proficiency to the top in TWO YEARS.

Pastor Scott,the moral high ground is mine, not yours. I am an Athiest, I don’t tell others what to do I lead, and put my money where my mouth is.

Ill be back to explain my actions, you may be uncomfortable. It’s 9:00 A.M. and time for me to have a Heinekin.

— johnh
9:02 am October 18th, 2008

I like atheists they are free thinkers but beer for breakfast? I think I will have a bagel!

hs - I don’t think the New Testament affirms any one form of government becasue the last word always - this world is passing away… The question is what do we do in the mean time and the answer is typically to advocate for those who don’t have anyone else to do it for them.

— Pastor Scott
9:06 am October 18th, 2008

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