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03.13.2007 8:39 pm

Is potty ‘parity’ enough in public places?

St. Louis Post-Dispatch

Soon it will be Opening Day 2007, and female Cardinals fans will have just as many places to…er, tinkle…as men in the new Busch Stadium. That’s more than they could say last season, when the stadium opened its doors with 37 fewer “female” toilets than “male” toilets.

Turns out that the Busch architects failed to account for a Missouri state law that requires “potty parity” — an equal number of publicly available toilets for men and women in public places such as stadiums, theaters and arenas. Says Elizabethe Holland’s story:

The stadium’s restrooms are now being renovated to get the stadium up to grade for the first game April 1, according to Cardinals president Mark Lamping.

The law, enacted in 1995, requires that sports stadiums and other large public venues have an equal number of water closets — or toilets — for women as there are toilets and urinals for men.

The new total for both men and women at Busch: 334.

The Post-Dispatch first reported on the disparity back near Opening Day 2006 — and it was news to the architects, the Cardinals and the city. Oh, and the Post-Dispatch also took grief from some readers who couldn’t believe this was a story worth reporting on.

But, alas, I don’t usually have to stand in long lines waiting for the restroom. I’m a man. The ladies room, however? That’s a different story. I suspect there’s plenty of Cardinals fans who are pretty happy about the change.

But is parity enough? Some places (New York City, for example) actually require more toilets for women than for men. Or are you among those who think this is a non-story? If so, why? And don’t give me that line about how we’re fighting a war in Iraq and there’s a presidential campaign heating up and this, THIS is the most important thing to talk about? We’ve talked about those things, too, folks. Lighten up.

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There should be potty parity - in fact, I support unisex bathrooms. I think it is sorta sexy when a cute woman unabashedly takes a leak in front of guys.

Let me tell you something about the Cardinals bathrooms vis-a-vis the Cubs bathrooms: we have it made. Most of those neurotic Chicago fans take twnety minutes to use the potty!

— robsmyth
9:24 pm March 13th, 2007

Mark me in the “this is stupid” column.

#1 Has anyone considered the average number of men that attend the games vice the average number of women. I’ll admit I don’t know what the percentages are, but I would wage that the average crowd is majority male. Would it not make sense then that a majority of the restrooms are male? Would men complain if there is a extra ladies’ room at Bed Bath and Beyond?

#2 Comparing the number to toilets in women’s room to the number of toilets and urinals combined in men’s rooms is unjust. How do they count the big open trough style urinals used in older venues? Does that still count as one even though you commonly see 20 guys squeezed in there urinating all over each other? Urinals take up less space that do toilets so that means that women now have more square footage committed to there bathroom needs than do men. This is an outrage, I need to get the ACLU on the line.

Do we all see how silly this is?

— TJ
1:27 am March 14th, 2007

sounds great to me. equality. now men and women can enjoy the same level of bathroom experience at the new stadium that was built on the cheap on a 30-yr depreciation equation.

— tennisball
2:40 am March 14th, 2007

Bathroom parity.

Wow.

I’m so proud to be an American.

— moe
4:50 am March 14th, 2007

We’ve got a war going on in Iraq, and this is the…

Oh, wait.

If one assumes that the majority of any given sports event crowd is majority male (and this really shouldn’t be a stretch), having ‘potty parity’ already provides women with more facilities than men on a per fan basis. Besides (and I may get flamed for this), you could double the number of women’s facilities, and there’d still be a twenty minute wait — it just seems to be one of those universal truths.

— Cubiclewarrior
6:39 am March 14th, 2007

I’d say, you go, girls. Potty parity today, equal pay scales in corporate America tomorrow.

This story just had to leak out. Blog topics like this go with us like pees in a pod. I don’t know whose idea this was; wasn’t mine - was it urine? At the risk of being accused of being yellow, I’d say this is a good topic. Kurt, you’re a whiz.

Ladies, we’ll put the seat down when we’re through here…….

— Boyd
7:23 am March 14th, 2007

Oh my, I don’t feel I have enough information to give an opinion. I think Missouri should finance a study to determine whether or not what “potty parity” does today may fail in the near future.

With Global warming it is reasonable to expedt that more beer will be consumed, and more potties should be provided. A study of how many beers a woman drinks before going to the bathroom, and a study of the same thing for men could put Missouri in 1st place in the Nation in potty parity. That is a lofty goal, and one for which Missouri could be proud.

Of course to be absolutely certain the studies are ongoing, and accurate within acceptable standards, the amount of time that each gender spend’s in the bathroom must taken into consideration. of course we need to know wqhat the person is doing in the bathroom? GPS can determine that. Are they sitting on a stool, or 10 feet away putting on lipstick, and using their eyebrow pencils. Do men zip up their pants while at an urinal, or do they move away to do that.

Kurt, I think you would like the study and the number of articles the PD could publish about ongoing findings. Studies in the past, using human observers show that only 1 of 5 people who goes to the bathroom in a public place even bothers to wash his/her hands before departing.

Kurt, you have just outdone yourself by posting this thread. CONGRATULATIONS.

— johnh
7:30 am March 14th, 2007

You know, it’s not a slow news day. There are lots of things we could discuss:
National:
-Poll shows for first time that a Majority think we will not win in Iraq
-Dow Jones crashes - Asian markets follow: Bad Credit home loans to blame?
-US Attorneys fired for political reasons, replaced without Congress over site
Local:
-Ameren slammed at review - should they get a raise or a pay cut?
-Blunt wants to spend college loan money on buildings - Dems block plan

Frankly, I would rather talk about PI day than Potty Parity. Pretty Pathetic Post topic.

— Anonaman
8:08 am March 14th, 2007

I have the “pleasure” of attending the American Dietetic Assoc. annual meeting most–it gets about 10,000 attendees, all Dietitians and about 95% female, they actually temporarily convert the restrooms in the convention centers to mostly women’s even here in Missouri. Next time it comes here, I’m going to bring it up–I’ve had to walk very long distances to relieve myself, not fair.

And guys, instead of chewing on Kurt, why don’t you just not respond? On the left side of your screen, you’ll find a rather large selection of topics–I’m sure you can find something that pleases your uh “intellectual” needs.

— Ethan
8:27 am March 14th, 2007

I am pleased with the rennovations to the restrooms for the new season. Albert Pujohls’ first home run in the new stadium on opening day landed behind my seat while I was IN LINE TO GO TO THE RESTROOM, which I had to walk quite a distance to get to. Not that I’m bitter…

— Jen
8:34 am March 14th, 2007

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