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11.13.2007 4:59 pm

How would you enforce a law against saggy trousers?

St. Louis Post-Dispatch

The city of Pine Lawn is taking the lead in Missouri against a scourge: They call it “sagging.” And they’re referring to saggy trousers. Exposed boxer shorts. Slack-in-the-back. They’re mad as heck and they’re not going to take it anymore in Pine Lawn.

There, it’s apparently become something of a redevelopment issue, according to our story for Wednesday’s Post-Dispatch. Consultants said the city should consider ways to repair the city’s image. Sagging came up. (Here’s an earlier version of the story from AP.)
But it’s not just a Pine Lawn issue. Across the country, cities have apparently tried to outlaw the practice. Check out this New York Times story on the trend.

Now, I’m not a big advocate of saggy pants. Neither, apparently, is the American Civil Liberties Union, which has opposed dress restrictions.

How would you do it? Whether you like it or not, can sagging be outlawed? How is this different from the outcry in previous generations over long hair? Bikinis? Mini-skirts? Hot pants? Leisure suits?

And if this tactic doesn’t work, what’s the right tactic to take if you want to curtail the practice?

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The sagging pants phenomenon is one of the stupidist things of all time. Does anyone know that this fashion was started in jail intake centers, because they confiscate your belt so you don’t strangle someone or hang yourself???? We should just all wear orange jumpsuits!

Regardless, there shouldn’t be ANY laws to enforce ANY type of conservative dress code on people, no matter how hard the Republicans scream and kick in an impossible attempt to turn everyone into a square.

— robsmyth
5:19 pm November 13th, 2007

You want to stop kids from dressing a certain way? Get a bunch of 45 year old men with comb-overs to dress the same way. Once the kids see that they will never don those clothes again…

As long as people are covering up all the parts that are supposed to be covered up, who really cares whether their pants are baggy or not? Last time I checked, Pine Lawn had more pressing issues than this.

— Tim
11:43 pm November 13th, 2007

Ok my opinion is that I don’t wanna be watching those “thugs” trying to walk around with all that out. It’s not a race issue at all either! But it’s horrible for kid’s to imitate rappers and all the hip-hoppers because they are just thugs with money! The law is a good thing because it’s public indeciency. Police that catch people sagging, they should also take a rope and tie around the persons waist to hold up their pants! Thank god some city finally did something about the issue!

— Nick
12:33 am November 14th, 2007

I agree. The law isn’t trying to “impede on anyone’s rights” or “keep them from expressing themselves” or whatever other excuses are offered. They’re simply trying to uphold public decency. If people are walking around sagging in your town, it puts on a very negative image. You can’t tell me that, if someone was passing through town and saw one of those punks with sagging pants, they’d think “Oh well this looks like a good, safe, upstanding, decent town.” More power to you, Pine Lawn!

— Jesse
12:45 am November 14th, 2007

While I hate the practice and would never be caught dead ’saggin’ I hate worse the pervasive attempt at social engineering. Just what does ‘life , liberty and the pursuit of happiness’ mean and who does it apply to? The mayor and city council need to read the constitution and stop wiping their backsides with it!

— Joe
3:16 am November 14th, 2007

The sagging pants has another prison connection as well: homosexual inmates wear their pants in this manner to indicate that they are available for sex. I think if kids knew that, they might think differently about it. The kids that wear the sagging pants look ridiculous. Having a law against it is just as bad; if they want to look like clowns, so be it. Maybe they do it to save time when they’re going to the bathroom.

— HHH
3:42 am November 14th, 2007

Who are you to judge how any one else acts or dresses in public? This is America. No matter what it supposedly stands for, that’s no basis to criminalize it. Even if 999 out of 1000 people who wears clothes like that represents an ‘evil’ element, the US constitution guarantees that one person’s right to dress like that.

So until the US constitution is thrown away, this law will NEVER hold up in court.

— Ryan
3:55 am November 14th, 2007

Isn’t one’s waist at belly button level? If so, most pants, both male and female, won’t come close to complying - plumbers watch out!

— ExRTD
6:40 am November 14th, 2007

The best way to get rid of this is for the mayor and alderman and any other un-cool types around to start wearning their pants like that. The kids will stop it fast, beleive theres nothing cool for a teenager dress like an alderman.

— walter
7:19 am November 14th, 2007

I wouldn’t. The more you resist it the more they will engage in it. Sagging, similar to long hair in the 60’s and 70’s, is an act or rebellion. It is designed to alienate and cause others to keep their distance, will establishing a sense of solidarity with those that sag. The pretense is that the other saggers share your values, which they do in only a supperficial way. The irony is, as a clothing style, it doesn’t work. One hand is lost to holding up the pants, and walking is fettered to a shuffling gate. The reference to prisoner’s in the article is appropriate, it is a clothing style that mocks the chain gang shuffle. I am not inspired by it. Picture a clown, but without the intent of laughing at ourselves. Those that sag to the extreme that it causes them to be unable to walk or work effectively, are taking themselves out of the game. It is way of declaring yourself a person in the stands, and not a player in the game. Players don’t sag.

— Scott
7:21 am November 14th, 2007

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