I find it awfully funny that the Supreme Court ruled that SLU is not of a religious school so that it could get funds to build their new sports complex!!( And that was o.k. with Burke because they were getting money) Just like he let St Stanislaus go all this time but now so many parishioner’s have joined and that church is bringing in a lot of funds for the parish,(which Burke gets nothing because he defrocked the church already) So now he has decided to defrock the priest that has made this a successful church!!
I was born and raised Catholic! I went to catholic schools and plenty of daily church services! When I became an adult and went to a different service(Christian) I than realized how phony the catholic church really is!! The bible, which is supposedly what we were raised on does not tell you to not offer communion to people because they don’t believe what you(Burke) believes!
If you asked every person whom you will give communion too, what their personal beliefs are on issues, you would fall down in disappointment!!
In the Bible, it says to love everyone. Period!!!!
When you join a congregation, you are not asked to fill out a criminal history, personal profile, personal belief sheet, None of that!! Catholics need to quit acting so high and mighty and just love Christ and treat others as you would like to be treated !
As far as Majeras, if he is doing the job he was hired far at full potential, let him alone!! Did he get asked his beliefs when he was hired?? Did he get hired to coach? Or did he get hired to represent the beliefs of a phony Catholic belief?? Think about it!!!
A Loving Christian!!!!!!

This is kind of a bad example because anyone who supports a tax free institution that protects child molesting employees has lost ALL moral authority over the rest of us. How far can we take this and still have a free america? The Joyce Meyer ministries advertised in the Career Builder publication that they wanted christian employees only. That flies in the face of labor laws, among other things. My bosses have said many things that offended me, yet who am I to say they can’t say those bigoted things? Did it affect their hiring practices? I am sure it did. (I got terminated after many years of good service for not agreeing to go along with criminal activities my bosses and their bosses were doing. They now face the SEC. Should I decide to go back to the corporate world, I face explaining the termination in a way that doesn’t make me a risky employee for those who may not be ethical themselves in business matters. )They tried to hush my questions too and squash my beliefs of ethical business behavior in public companies. Was that right? No. Did it affect their business to be forced into ethical behaviors? I’m sure it did. I hope it did since they were teaching the next generation to steal from the stockholders as common practice. Burke needs to stay out of someone’s private thoughts and beliefs that they choose to speak about off the job site. They sure would be angry if you tried to muzzle them because you did not agree with their beliefs. I suppose abortion rights DO affect the number of folks they can get to come into the church and give them money, so I guess it does affect their business. But america still stands for free speech and thoughts, well, up until 8 years ago anyway. Lets’ not even get into the argument of killing people when we just kill these same kids later in life by sometimes less humane ways. And any anti-choice folks who wish to whine…spend that energy adopting or caring for a neglected child instead.

#39: Peace Seeker…Prepared For War:

Your analogies I think are a bit stretched. Are you saying that the beer delivery driver was treated fairly…..and if so, do you really feel that the criticism of Majerus is justifiable? Or, are you simply saying that a precedent has perhaps been established, and therefore it’s OK judge Majerus on the basis of that precedent?

Also, Majerus didn’t denigrate Burke or the Church. He made no comments that would have belittled Burke, or anyone else who may support Burke or share his views. He simply made a comment that reflected his personal belief.

silly religious people….

Another issue to consider here is just how orthodox employees of a “Catholic” university or other institution need to be. I believe in employment contracts that limit an employee’s behavior, but only when such contracts are entered into freely. A contract is a contract.

But let’s make believe that SLU or St. John’s Mercy Hospital or Vianney High School made it a contract requirement that all employees must express doctrinal belief in all the tenets of Catholicism. Further, employees would not be allowed to express contrary opinions outside of work or at any other time. Can you imagine that the pool of eligible workers would shrink to a handful of persons who are pro-life, never use birth control, are against homosexuality as a lifestyle, never masturbate (a grave sin in the Catholic faith), aren’t divorced and remariied, and don’t favor women’s ordination. Either that or the workforce would be filed with liars.

This, it appears, is where the Archbishop is heading. He seems to be wiling to destroy such institutions by making it impossible for anyone but ultra-orthodox Catholics to be eligible to work there. So if your nurse at St. Mary’s happens to be a lesbian, she’s unemployed. If the cafeteria lady at your Catholic high school is on the pill, say bye-bye. If the maintenance man at SLU gets a little self-gratification now and again, he is not worthy to work there. Again, you end up with a workforce of strict toe-the-line Catholics or a workforce of liars. You pick. Is that where you would go or send your child for an education? Would you want health care at such a place?

SLU and other “Catholic” institutions are wise to make the moves that SLU already has made to distance themselves from this nutty Archbishop and his dysfunctional church heirarchy. That may be their only salvation.

God bless the Archbishop. Boot Majerus off his team. He can come to the game, but don’t bother suiting up. If he had a high-visibility job with NARAL and said at a pro-choice rally he was against abortion, how long before he would be canned? You want to be PC, Coach? Go elsewhere. Jesus is the King. No suffrage. You are a subject or you are not. if you are, obey the rules. If you choose otherwise, leave. Can’t have it both ways.

Archbishop Burke is doing exactly what he should be doing as the leader of the local Catholic Church. I was ashamed of the poor judgment used by Rick Majerus in expressing his views on local television. He is well aware of his views being against Catholic teaching and he is well aware that he is employed by a Catholic university. He chose to shoot his mouth off on a topic that has nothing to do with his alleged expertise. He may have been there for his own personal reasons, but I am absolutely sure that he was chosen by the reporter because of who he is and the role he plays at SLU - not because he was just any person who just happened to be there. If I was someone earning $650K and working for an organization, I sure would be smart enough to keep my big mouth shut when people asked me questions on TV that will contradict the fundamental beliefs of my employer. He should practice the words ‘no comment’. Poor judgment is what gets people fired all the time. Hopefully this visible example of poor judgment will go in his file and used when he screws up in other ways - which I suspect he will.

A. Noni Mouse, Are you kidding me???? Are you THAT disconnected???? Since when did this become a question of politics? The very fact that you cannot distinguish the difference between religious beliefs and political views tells me you have no business talking about this issue. I take issue with your incinuation that these choices don’t affect us. I will tell you that many years ago I made a decision, one that was made as a young person, when I was young. There isn’t a day that goes by that I don’t think about that decision and how it in turn has affected my life. I was wrong to make the decision that I made. I didn’t make that decsion because I thought it was right, I made it because I was scared. I don’t want anyone to make the same mistake I made. Teenage abortion rates are higher for teens between the ages of 15 and 17. Why do you suppose that is? Because they are making decisions without parental guidance, that is why. These kids can load up in a car on Saturday morning and have someone take them to a clinic and have it done and be home in time for dinner.

Since you brought it up though please understand that you are living in a fantasy world if you believe we can live in a gigantic happy world where all is good and no one is poor and wars don’t exist and everyone recycles. Since the beginning of time there have been poor, there have been hungry, and there have been wars. Today we have fewer poor, fewer hungry, and fewer wars than ever before. This is life, while we all wish that the picture you painted was real, it isn’t.

Again, the Archbishop defends the Catholic Faith and again the same names throw the same garbage at the Archbishop. Why do they do that?

Well, it is annoying when you have someone actually defending Catholicism.

Although it is entertaining to read the attacks on the Archbishop because you can tell that people who have little idea about Catholicism are grabbing at anything to throw at the Archbishop.

Anyway, I think the real question here is, is the University Catholic or not?

If the University is Catholic, they need to return the public money that they got, and reprimend the coach in an appropiate manner.

If the University decides that they are not Catholic, then the 3% of Jesuits need to leave it and have the name changed to something not associated with Catholicism.

Jesus said something about not being able to serve two masters.

That is only logical sense, isn’t it?

I think the larger question is important. Can my employer tell me what to say and what not to say? I think it is important to note the in this case no one would of heard or cared of Majerus’s view if he was not the employee of SLU and coach of their basketball team. Even if he was asked Majerus should of had the presence of mind to say that since the journalist was asking about SLU basketball that he would not speak on topics outside of SLU Basketball. To those who might think that the interview was not about Sports, why is the article in the sport section.
Majerus was listened to because he was a SLU coach. SLU would be poorly served if they gave their employees open mikes to the world. How many employees would expose weakness at SLU and hide behind the freedom of speech this spokesmen just gave to the employees of SLU.