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05.15.2008 4:28 pm

MySpace case: Should Drew have been indicted?

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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A federal grand jury in Los Angeles returned an indictment Thursday against Lori Drew of O’Fallon, Mo., in the MySpace case that ended in the suicide of Megan Meier.

Drew, 49, was named in a four-count indictment that charges one count of conspiracy and three counts of accessing protected computers without authorization to obtain information to inflict emotional distress on Meier, who was referred to in the indictment only as M.T.M.

According to a news release from U.S. Attorney Thomas P. O’Brien, the indictment alleges that Drew and others registered as a member of MySpace under the name of Josh Evans, then began corresponding with Meier in what the girl believed was an online romance. After the “romance” ended, Meier hanged herself in her room.

“This adult woman allegedly used the Internet to target a young teenage girl, with horrendous ramifications,” O’Brien said.

Drew declined to comment, referring questions to her lawyer. She will be summoned to appear for arraignment in federal court in Los Angeles in June; she is expected to surrender to authorities in St. Louis. The conspiracy count carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison; each count of accessing protected computers also carries a maximum possible penalty of five years in prison.

Given that St. Charles County prosecutor Jack Banas refused to prosecute Drew, since “It’s not a violation of state law,” should Drew face prosecution and a possible 20-year prison sentence?

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Yes she should go to jail it would set a presidence for others not to do that.

— KM
4:51 pm May 15th, 2008

She should definitely face punishment for what she did. She was an adult, Megan was a child. What she did was horrible and she should get what she deserves. She at least still has her daughter. The Meier’s don’t.

— AH
4:58 pm May 15th, 2008

This was tragic but no. The comments of a make-believe boy could not and should not have been the main trigger. If anyone’s responsible it’s Megan’s parents for raising a daughter who was naive, boy crazy, ignorant, and emmotionally detached. Also, the attorneys in California are “trying to set a precedent” but are really looking for face time.

— karl
5:16 pm May 15th, 2008

I think that if they are going to push an indictment against Lori Drew then then need to file another one for Megan’s mom. She is an unfit parent. Megan had many problems before this incident. The one I feel sorry for is Megan. Megan had her issues and here you have an unfit parent signing her up for Myspace when she wasnt even old enough to join. Mom came through and signed her up. Wow, what a wonderful stupid woman. She drove Megan to her death and Lori Drew childishly did her thing. What totally baffles me is that Megan’s mother then went around to the schools and acted as though she had some great information to give to other kids. How about Megan’s mother admitting her incompetence as a parent. That would have been the right thing for her to do.

I dont feel one bit sorry for Megan’s parents or Lori Drew. Both are at fault. Ultimately though, Megan’s parent failed her and Megan paid the price.

— superdave
5:24 pm May 15th, 2008

Should Drew have been indicted? Absolutely.

Anyone who states otherwise is probably a flaming liberal with no soul.

— Joe
5:30 pm May 15th, 2008

Absolutely this woman should be prosecuted. While it is clear that there were other issues with the girl who killed herself, she was still a girl. Most adult women understand what it is like to be a teenage girl, emotionally. It is very hard, even if you are “popular”. This woman actively targeted this girl. She is a horrible, mean awful person. If it is true that other people were involved in the same situations, aiding and abetting so to speak, they should be prosecuted as well. Karl states that the girl was “…naive, boy crazy, ignorant and emotionally detached.” Now, I do not know the girl, and I am guessing that Karl does not either. But, Karl, do you have a young daughter? I will give him naive. Most young girls are (and should be). I will give him boy crazy. Most young girls are. Ignorant? Who knows, unless you put ignorant and naive in the same category. Emotionally detached? Maybe. We have no way of knowing, really. While I disagree with Karl’s picture of Megan, I do agree with him and superdave … her parents definitely are culpable here as well. They did not do enough to protect and educate their daughter. But, that still does not excuse an adult woman targeting a young girl so maliciously.

— pm636
5:33 pm May 15th, 2008

From a purely legal perspective, this is quite possibly the most absurd criminal indictment ever issued by a U.S. federal court.

A grand jury hears nothing more than the one-sided prosecutorial view of the case. No other evidence whatsoever. Hell, any idiot U.S. Attorney can get an indictment returned against a ham sandwich if they lightly whisper “dead child”. Of course, that doesn’t even take into account that this case apparently had to be “outsourced” to LaLa Land, where common sense was banished years ago.

PREDICTION: Charges dismissed before the ink is dry on the summons.

— PawPaw
5:44 pm May 15th, 2008

I don’t believe the case will survive, but this whole story is a typical situation of a mother stooping to a child’s level to get revenge for her “perfect” child.
This was an adult getting back at a young girl that resulted in a tragedy. While I think the case will be dropped, I hope Lori Drew has a very nervous flight to California.

— Tony G.
5:57 pm May 15th, 2008

Clearly this woman was a jerk for harassing a child, but it’s not illegal to be a jerk. What’s next- jail time for insulting someone?

— Dena
6:00 pm May 15th, 2008

Yes, absolutely she should have been indicted and she should spend time in jail. This is probably a test case for MySpace and although she probably sees herself as a scapegoat, perhaps others will think twice before they harass defenseless and sensitive teenagers.

— Sara M.
6:06 pm May 15th, 2008

I am not sure some on here truly got the message. Lori Drew is not even nearly responsible as Megans mother. AS pawpaw said, this will go nowhere. This was not an incredibly childish thing that Lori Drew but this is going nowhere. Let’s concentrate on Megans parents and let me them know how awful they are as parents. Any responsible parent should be all over this. Any responsible parent would have never allowed Megan to be on Myspace because of her age and mostly because she had many problems that she had to begin with. Megans mother tried to say she monitored Megan on the internet all the time. What? She didnt stop here from talking to this phony boy? Let’s string her a** up and make her an example of what happens when you abuse your own child. For you people that make excuses for Megan’s mom. Shame on you. You are the very reason why our children end up like this. Perhaps you are a major part of the problem and next time it will be your child. Stop being your child’s best friend and start being your child’s parent. When you had that child that’s the job you signed up for!

— superdave
6:16 pm May 15th, 2008

Let me correct one thing I said accidentally. This was an incredibly childish thing that Lori Drew did. Sorry for the mistyping! You weak parents drive me up a wall!

— superdave
6:20 pm May 15th, 2008

I think the indictment is justified. The evidence is there. Just by creating a fake user, she violated the rules of myspace. I can’t speculate on the outcome of all of this, but I think it’s a worthwhile pursuit. I think there is considerably less evidence that suggests Megan’s mother is a bad parent.

— jfmoyn
6:32 pm May 15th, 2008

The witch Lori Drew must be burned at the stake. May her days left on this planet be full of misery and despair. That goes double for her evil doing family.

— stevo
7:19 pm May 15th, 2008

The GUILTY Lori Drew needs to be convicted and sent to prison for the rest of her ungodly life. Lori’s dopey daughter should also be charged.

— Susan
7:23 pm May 15th, 2008

This was an adult emotionally abusing a child, thus causing the child to kill herself.

She deserves life in prison, not just 20 years.

— Chuck
7:25 pm May 15th, 2008

I think Drew should be punished and MySpace obviously should be shut down to minors.

— Think|
8:00 pm May 15th, 2008

Talk about a witch hunt !!!! No one is more responsible for megans death than her OWN PARENTS. She was weak…(obviously) she took the wrong course of action and her parents now want to place blame ANYWHERE but in their own hands. This is all just a sickening joke! Sad as it may be that she is now gone…it doesnt change the fact that she was not right in the head. Suicide is not knee-jerk reaction to an event as benign as this. It is a culmination of many events..poor self perceptions and poor self worth. God only knows.
Her parents claim to be so certain that this is what drove her over the edge. If thats the case …then certainly they also knew she had serious problems BEFORE this happened.No one likes to accept the fact that they may have offspring that was ill-equipped to handle the rigors of everyday life…but that is EXACTLY what happened, and is STILL HAPPENING !
I feel this is more about absolving themselves of those regretful feelings of inadaquecy as a parent than it is about justice for megan.
Now ,…if my statements were to cause you some mental distress for which you feel the need to now end your life …am I really responsible …I THINK NOT !!!!

— like u care
8:03 pm May 15th, 2008

What is truly the tragedy here are the amount of people who are being tried in the court of public opinion. If either this woman or the girl’s mother did what people are saying they did, they need to be held accountable in a reasonable way. I would say that probation and perhaps parenting classes for both. If I made such a mistake in my life, I would feel really bad about what I had done. While I know there are many “eye for an eye” people who demand some sort of justice, I believe many of these same persons have a few skeletons in their closet that they would like to keep from being held accountable for in the way that they are now demanding justice for these women. We need to remember that sometimes we all make mistakes and temper justice with mercy.

— Noprobs1
8:21 pm May 15th, 2008

I wonder who is the deep pockets behind this. Drew says she didn’t do it: defers responsibility for the messages to her daughter and an unnamed late-teenaged employee. If anyone should be targeted, it should be the people she said actually did it. The indictment just calls them “co-conspirators.”

The constitution says “you shall create no ex post facto law — meaning, you cannot be prosecuted for something which was not a crime when you committed it, but since has been criminalized. There is *no one* on the planet who knows all laws in all jurisdictions. If My Space thinks they are doing themselves a favor by being party to this indictment, they are not: My Space is not an ISP but a website; as a website, they may themselves be negligent in not finding the offending exchange in time to affect the outcome. No airtight case can ever be made as to “who” is using a computer without flesh and blood witnesses to who is sitting at the keyboard, even if you have the computer’s DNS location. Where are the witnesses to the alleged infraction: esp. since, according to the indictment, the so called conspirators erased their My Space account once the girl’s death became known? Does the indictment have witnesses in real space, besides the accused, to the alleged activity? Where is the evidence?

While there might have been an intent to harass, I don’t think there was any intent to harm or kill. Little miss did that all by herself, and obviously, her legal guardians couldn’t stop her.

Personally, I hope this gets bounced out of court by a Missouri lawyer. It’s a fishing trip, pure and simple. People have been pulling cruel pranks on vulnerable people ever since Cain killed Abel over a mess of pottage. While the actions of the so-called conspirators were definitely childish, and pulled on a girl who obviously didn’t have her act together, “causing emotional distress” is such a lame charge — life (with or without a computer) causes emotional distress eventually to all of us. We learn to deal with it, or we don’t survive.

But making “causing emotional distress” a crime is someone trying to juice up work for lawyers, and prosecuting Lori Drew won’t bring back the kid, or help other troubled youth learn how to differentiate between virtual and real life. Gee, can I go back and prosecute all those kids in sixth grade who created emotional distress in me because I was a transfer student? Hey, they were in person and to my face, too!

I can’t imagine getting so worked up over someone I’d never met in person that I’d do the deed. Sorry for the family’s loss, but why can’t they let this thing rest, already, and get on with their lives? If they really want a memorial to their daughter, why not do something positive, like sponsor a scholarship for school counselors of troubled youth?

— Teresa
8:48 pm May 15th, 2008

You bet she should be charged. She might not spend a day in jail, but this follow her around.

She’s just mean. And mean people suck.

— Margaret
9:01 pm May 15th, 2008

This almost 50 year old adult should face charges and time for her harrasment of a 13 year old child. A girl this age going through puberty is not going to be able to deal with the type of hateful actions and mind play this crazy woman did to her, with the internet used more each day as a way of comunication, things need to be done to protect children.

— mj
9:53 pm May 15th, 2008

I would love to give my opinion on this matter, but since I’m pretending to be someone else on this forum I’m afraid that the feds will prosecute me…

— A Nonymous
10:11 pm May 15th, 2008

Megan,

Had issues…if I remember correctly she first spoke of killing herself in the 3rd grade.

The girl was mentall ill….and this lady is hardly the cause of her death. She was a sick little girl and life finally caught up to her.

— David
10:38 pm May 15th, 2008

If the internet is such a dangerous place ..where these things can occur ..then why isnt Megans mom being indicted for failing to protect her child from it? The short -sightedness of the average person never ceases to amaze me . I liken megans internet usage to a child playing with a gun. You certainly would’nt allow that would you ? And if you did …chances are you’d be charged with some kind of a crime. And I dont mean to imply that the internet is a wild out of control place where ANYTHING goes…BUT You would only allow a child to have a gun if he/she were intelligent enough to understand the responsiblities involved. THE SAME GOES FOR THE INTERNET …and anywhere else you may allow to go without your supervision. And only you would know if your child were ready for something as involved as gun ownership….or internet usage.
Her mother clearly did NOT monitor her usage …or she would have known about what was happening. If she monitored her …she would’nt have been left alone at her most vunerable time ….these are failures ON HER MOTHERS PART ….NOT LORI DREW. Is it mean spirited …maybe …is it illegal? ABSOLUTELY NOT !!!!!!!!!! People need to learn the difference.
Also ,….why isnt megans mother being charged for creating an account for her daughter …even though MYSPACE clearly indicates that you must be at least 16 years old to do so? Naaah …I guess not ….even though that was against myspace policy …no one wants to talk about that. Funny how most here talk as if lori drews sole intention was to have this happen…gimme a break. Its probably like a nightmare that wont quit. But it shouldnt really come as a suprise to me…as most will base their view of this event in moral terms …but thats not were talking about. The question was …is what she did illegal?…and the answer is still NO NO NO!!!

— like u care
10:42 pm May 15th, 2008

I can’t believe people state an opinion beyond even indictment that she should go to jail, without even knowing the facts. I think what happened is horrible, and not exactly sure precisely of the law broken, but if there were it should move forward to figure it out. However, how people can be swayed by the media though and convict based on the news is very sad.

Even beyond that for someone to say Megan’s parents are to blame is despicable. The person that said that is the type of person that should be put away.

— tko9111
10:51 pm May 15th, 2008

mj–

I dealt with the same sort of *#@! Megan did at a younger age. Difference was, the harassment was in person, and I had two very decent parents who taught me how to fight my own battles. Don’t blame it on puberty.

I don’t quite understand the charge of “accessing protected computers.” Unless the co-conspirators somehow hacked the My Space system (by means other than creating a fictitious name and coming in the front door)to obtain info on Megan that they probably could have equally found by asking kids in the neighborhood (remember, they lived in the same neighborhood) and some computer geek has evidence of reverse engineering code, or breaking passwords, or some such I don’t see how those charges could stand.

I have a My Space account under a fictitious name. Other than clicking a button certifying I was over 16, My Space only knows the DNS of the computer I connect from, not any identifiable info on me. Heck, I could be in the kitchen and anyone in the house could log onto the My Space page.

It’s such a specious non-story with evidence holes big enough to sail the Nimitz carrier through. The backlash may be it creates sympathy for Ms. Drew and her co-conspirators. Now, what good would that do?

— Teresa
10:59 pm May 15th, 2008

Teresa - There is a difference between a child being harassed by an ADULT and by other children. Sorry, but your situation is not comparable. If you can’t see the difference, there is no use wasting time trying to explain it to you.

— Renee
11:41 pm May 15th, 2008

Renee, there is a difference between poor moral judgement …and breaking the law. If you can’t see the difference, there is no use wasting time trying to explain it to you

— like u care
11:56 pm May 15th, 2008

It’s horrible situation, but she shouldn’t go to jail. And did you ever notice this? Whenver they show a picture of Megan, it is a head shot and she doesn’t look bad. However, a body shot clearly shows that she is fat, so there you go.

— BigEarl
12:00 am May 16th, 2008

Was this a terrible tragedy? Of course. Does Drew bear responsibility? Morally, yes; legally, no. What law did she break? Since when is it illegal to “inflict emotional distress?” That language is incredibly vague. If that were truly a crime, we would all be indicted every time we broke up with a girlfriend or boyfriend. I see a mean-spirited, downright nasty person in Drew, but I fail to see a crime.

It’s not harassment.
The basis of a harassment case is that the conduct was forced upon the individual, and yet Meier could have simply blocked Drew and her alter-ego, switched her user name, or stopped using myspace altogether.

I’m sorry to say, the fact that the conduct by Drew led to Meier committing suicide leaves one with the impression of much more deeply-rooted problems in the girl. I feel deeply sorry for this troubled child, and I question the parenting of the Meiers.

And before anyone accuses me of it, I am NOT defending Drew. I believe what she did was despicable, but there are many things that are allowed under the law that are considered wrong morally.

— ViperLjs
12:17 am May 16th, 2008

What she did was wrong, but then again, the suburbanites in that area have all kinds of weird rituals that warp kids’ values and lives. I am surprised they were able to nail her though in that case. There were too many other reasons that kid could have committed suicide that day. Her mother had just reamed her out not an hour before. It was known mom was about to lose her cushy lifestyle because of divorce. Who knows what she said to her in her nervous state. The kid was on prescription drugs whose side effects include suicidal thoughts. In the world today, we like to jump on easy solutions and easy blame. All kinds of evil things exist that the laws overlook like molester priests who actually touch kids physically to ruin their lives. And go free after they admit it. Mom could have removed access to the computer. She knew there were troubles and did not. In auto accidents we have ways of splitting who is at fault. I’d hate to see the internet freedoms clamped down because some woman chose to drug her kid and let her have little supervision instead of taking the time to deal with her mental issues. You stay kind of busy keeping up that big house lifestyle I guess. Leave the internet alone and raise your kids properly peoples. Maybe there will be an appeal on this. It sure is interesting how it went so far. Mom has VERY squeeky wheels I hear!

— Slugger
12:35 am May 16th, 2008

It is a horrible situation, all the way around. A girl tormented (by neighbors, mental illness, most likely both) is tragic.
I don’t condone what Drew did, but I hardly think she ever thought that Megan would kill herself. Drew is not responsible for this.
What if I wrote a letter saying that “Joe,” who thinks Liberals have no souls urged me to hang myself?
Perhaps Drew’s actions were more deliberate, but does any one honestly believe she thought the girl would commit suicide?? How could she have known; the parents didn’t.
And I cannot be the only one who thinks Dad on the news w/ his girlfriend is in bad taste. Megan’s mom does not want justice, she wants revenge. She’s a grieving mom, who can blame her. I bet its easier than looking inside the home.

— A Liberal with no soul
12:39 am May 16th, 2008

Absolutely prosecute this person for harassment, false impersonation and if she can be prosecuted for actions which encouraged murder she should be so. Her actions essentially convinced this adolescent girl to commit murder against herself.

— kay tucker
1:03 am May 16th, 2008

The “free-speech advocates” I see on these forums and on places like YouTube are at best maladjusted morons. They hide behind their keyboards and spout profanity-laced rhetoric against parents like the Meiers and the parents of that young teenage girl who was beaten by a mob of her peers and then broadcast on YouTube. They loudly proclaim their precious right to say and do whatever they want, without consequences for their hurtful words or actions. The right to free speech comes with safeguards, and with responsibilities, to not infringe on the rights of others.

I am reminded of the passage, “Don’t be naive. There are difficult times ahead. As the end approaches, people are going to be self-absorbed, money-hungry, self-promoting, stuck-up, profane, contemptuous of parents, crude, coarse, dog-eat-dog, unbending, slanderers, impulsively wild, savage, cynical, treacherous, ruthless, bloated windbags, addicted to lust, and allergic to God. They’ll make a show of religion, but behind the scenes they’re animals. Stay clear of these people.

These are the kind of people who smooth-talk themselves into the homes of unstable and needy women and take advantage of them…” (2 Timothy 1-6, The Message.)

I think that pretty well sums up where we are at as a society. Lori Drew is getting what she deserves, and ultimately so will we.

— RamsAtLast
5:46 am May 16th, 2008

For those of you who are gladly throwing the book at Megan’s parents: How many of YOU are in the process, today, of raising a teenage girl? Unless you are, you don’t have a leg to stand on. One of my daughters (now 27) got into some pretty scary stuff (myspace is mild) when she was in high school…stuff that I didn’t find out about until much later. Here’s my statement about all that: The things I DO know about are bad enough. I’m not sure I want to know the rest.

Sometimes, what you hope for with your kids is that they find SOME adult to keep them pointed in a healthy direction. I (and my wife) spent many hours sitting up with various teenage girls that wound up at our house. Other parents who I know say the same thing. My hope was then that my girls were getting the same things from their friend’s moms and dads.

What Lori Drew did was reprehensible. I can only say that Megan’s parents most likely did what they thought was best for their daughter. Lori Drew was living a vicarious life through her daughter. Whether she deserves a court appearance and trial is secondary. She should at least admit remorse for her behavior and recognize that her behavior is not the behavior of a responsible adult.

— hs
5:51 am May 16th, 2008

There is no doubt what the Drew did was heinous, dispicable, and just wron in so many ways! There is no doubt Drew should be sued in civil court for intentionally attempting to cause distress to a minor. But as the prosecutor stated, there were no laws at the time that made her aggregious behavior illegal.

Just as strongly, I find the parents of MTM equally as quilty for having no clue what MTM was up to on her computer….and apparently no clue how emotionally unstable MTM was. It has been known quite some time kids can be fickle and downright cruel. Relationships amoungst minors start, stop, start, stop, and change so fast blinking will miss the event. Millions of teens feel angst, emotional distress, heart break and do not react with suicide. Perhaps there are more unfortunate events than are reported.

MTM obviously should have been receiving some type of professional intervention and most definitely parental supervision.

Everything about these events is disturbing.

— mickey
6:59 am May 16th, 2008

I don’t think she should go to jail. It’s too bad that it happened, but apparently the girl was highly emotional and suicidal without this event. Maybe it’s worth looking into her upbring and what influence her parents may have had in this.

— Mike D
7:00 am May 16th, 2008

You can’t tell this is an election year…

— Tim
7:20 am May 16th, 2008

An LA grand jury did what Jack Banas did not have the fortitude to do. Lori Drew intentionally set up this userid with the intent to contact a minor. She is a predator, plain and simple and should have been charged for that in Missouri. Lori Drew is no different than a child sexual predator except that she went for mental torment instead of sexual torment.

Some of you have cited Megan mental state. But, Lori Drew knew that and went after Megan anyway. That makes her 10 times more contemptable in my eyes.

— suzyjax
7:20 am May 16th, 2008

At least we know that Lori Drew will have to spend thousands of dollars to defend herself. Regardless of the outcome, and her name is pretty much trashed for eternity in STL. Should Lori be charged? not my call. Is she an evil person, absolutely, what grown adult goes around creating fake myspace pages simply to harass a specifically targeted child. Imagine if this was done over the phone, would your response be different? Lori broke the law by creating a fake myspace page, and then used her illegal identity to harass a CHILD. If she wanted to harass an adult with a legal myspace page, I say go for it, more power to you. But the target of her malfeasance was child! I say this set the grounds for nice size civil suit against the Drews. Open your pocket book Lori- her comes johnny law!!!

— Bob
7:29 am May 16th, 2008

As horribly sad as this case is, I don’t see how Drew spending 5-20 years in prison will help. Yes, she is a sick, twisted adult who got overly involved in a childish prank, but I am positive she never intended for the girl to kill herself. It cannot be proven that Megan’s parents are responsible for her mental distress, either. Mrs. Drew’s pathetic behavior may have led an already unstable girl to make a very sad decision, but the truth is that it was HER decision. Lori Drew is ultimately not responsible for Megan making that decision to end her life, as guilty and awful as she will feel for the rest of her life. These charges are trumped up and ridiculous, intended only to help the Meier’s blame someone and feel avenged, and to make MySpace seem like a safer place, which it never will be.

— Birdy
7:38 am May 16th, 2008

Not only were Lori Drew’s actions despicable, her behavior and lack of remorse after the fact are absolutely appalling. How anyone can defend this woman is beyond me.

— Renee
7:41 am May 16th, 2008

I almost always would be classified as a political conservative, but this is just stupid. Where were Megan’s parents? My 15-yr old daughter has NO access to a computer that I don’t know about and monitor. I have brought her up to understand that you can (and sometimes will) be judged by everything that you say and do. While what Lori Drew did was despicable, and she has probably personally exonerated herself (how else could she live with herself), this case is about publicity and not about the law. Grow up people! It’s not just about you. The things you do in your life affect others around you…start taking responsibility for your actions.

— Be informed
7:41 am May 16th, 2008

I think this topic has attracted every griefer and troll on the web (people who derive pleasure by causing misery to others and stirring up trouble). Relax, this is a test case, but it’s not going to make being a jerk illegal. You will still be able to get your jollies by torturing other people -as long as those other people are adults.

This case is pretty specific, an adult impersonated a minor to prey on a minor. Comparing Lori Drew’s behavior to griefing or trolling is like comparing a stalker to a heckler. A heckler may yell rude comments or embarrass a person, but we all know the heckler will go home and you will probably never see them again. Same with a griefer and a troll, they show up, cause trouble and leave. A stalker will spend considerable time obsessing over their target, they will follow them, sometimes even befriending their target just to get closer to them. This is the behavior of Lori Drew – she used fraud and lies to get close to a child, then used that very closeness to cause pain that a griefer never could.

Still, what makes Drew’s behavior especially egregious is that she did it all KNOWING her target was a minor. If Lori had tried this on Megan Meier’s Mom, I wouldn’t feel an indictment was justified. But Lori didn’t go after an adult – she targeted a child. Therefore, I believe the indictment IS justified.

We’ll see how the trial goes, but at the very least, this should make future child predators think twice.

— Anonaman
7:53 am May 16th, 2008

Have fun in jail, moron.

— Crank
7:54 am May 16th, 2008

We deal with kids differently than we deal with adults. It’s simple. If I ask a 24 year old female for sex, I do so without legal consequences. If I ask a 14 year old female for sex, I will likely face legal consequences.
The same comparison should apply to all interraction with kids vs adults.

Should Lori Drew be imprisioned? Absolutely.

— Ryan On The Euphonium
7:57 am May 16th, 2008

As a mother of four sons…..The Meyers will never get over this. Life will go on but never the same. Lori Drew new exactly the hurt she was causing and would have continued in some way…but her victim died. How many other cruel things had she done in the past and got away with it. This time she was caught and I don’t believe this was innocent…No way. She got caught and now she must suffer the consequences that come from her evil doing. If she gets away with this, she will somewhere, sometime, hurt someone again. I am sure she feels bad….but she feels bad for herself whats happening to her…not for what she did.

— Daisy
8:02 am May 16th, 2008

The basis for the indictment is shakey, at best. At worst, if the trial goes forward, which I believe will not happen, there will be a final review by SCOTUS.

They are using the “User Agreement” section as the basis for the indictment. After reading the “User Agreement” at MySpace, there is no mention of specific criminal charges for harrassment. If this is the case, how can they “created” new criminal law?

Mind you I am not excusing Ms. Drew’s conduct, but the idea of new criminal law being created out of thin air, along with a desire to make someone pay for this tragic incident, is dubious. Prosecuters and juries are not allowed to create laws. Everyone knows that is the perview of the legislative branch.

I have a feeling that once this is reviewed by SCOTUS, any judgement made will be overturned.

— Concerned Republican
8:15 am May 16th, 2008

Yes, she absolutely should be indicted. I’ll leave it to a jury to decide whether or not a conviction is appropriate. But to have let Lori Drew get away with no legal consequences at all is wrong. Our justice system has a responsibility to advocate for those who cannot advocate for themselves, in this case, Ms. Meier. Drew used her position as an adult to abuse a young person she knew to have issues, when instead she could have coached her.

— JH
8:21 am May 16th, 2008

Being a teenager is hard enough but having an adult target you like this in addition to it. Drew needs to spend some time in jail maybe then she will grow up and stop acting like a child herself. All families have issues including the Meiers it does not make them unfit. Most will say that there are some things that could have been done on both sides parents and Drew. However, Drew is still in the wrong and should be punished for such both legally and socially.

— AJ
8:22 am May 16th, 2008

While I think what the woman did was wrong, I disagree with the charges. this is an abuse of the criminal system. Do the Feds intend to charge everyone who has ever lied on the internet like on dating sites or even those who have used false ID on this site?

— French
8:25 am May 16th, 2008

No she should not be indicted. I think that Megan’s parents are poor role models. It sad that that no one in Megan’s family could help her. This is another waste of time, tax payers money and another case that causes a backlog in the system. Is the L. Drew a jerk yes..but not a criminal. Maybe Megan’s mom should have kept her off the internet

— Robert
8:31 am May 16th, 2008

People do not seem to understand what this will mean legally. It is a very scary precedent to be setting. The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act is a scary act to be invoking. The reason she is being charged under this act is due to the fact that the US operates under an ex post facto law, and there was no legal precedent on cyberbullying. Therefore, she is being partly charged on the grounds that she used a fake persona to do what was done. Do people demanding to put Ms. Drew in jail realize that this will mean that violating the Terms of Service of a website is punishable as a felony? Simply using a fake name could be grounds for making someone a felon. How many here used their full, real names? Every one could be punished, again, as a felon. The right to privacy, and yes, countless court rulings have established that people have a certain right to privacy, on the Internet would be demolished. One might say that if you have nothing to hide, you shouldn’t worry. Under that view, as long as you are doing nothing wrong, the government can place cameras all over your home, even in your bathroom. Because, as one says, you have nothing to hide. While I dislike using slippery slope arguments, in the Age of Information, ideas and the zeitgeist of what is allowed moves at breakneck speed, and one is one day viewed as a far-off, nonsensical endpoint is quickly reached and carried past due to inertia. How soon after this case is over, if she is found guilty, will it be required to sign in with a ‘new and improved’ license that must be swiped at a computer, in order to ensure that you are who you say you are? Will thumbprints be required to sign into a site? The technology is already there, though the current use is for, ironically, keeping people from accessing a private, personal computer. Be careful what you wish for, for you just might get it and everything that comes with it.

— Ogma
8:34 am May 16th, 2008

So they are tying to make a criminal case out of violating a websites terms of service? What a joke. Its a tragic case but I hope this is tossed out quick or we face a future where you will face criminal charges for hurting feelings in messageboard flame wars.

— Cup_Hungry
8:39 am May 16th, 2008

Forgot to mention something……

Being stupid is not a crime, nor is it fixable. As much as we would like to “get even” with this person or seek justice, I am unaware of any criminal law on the books that makes stupidity a felony.

— Concerned Republican
8:43 am May 16th, 2008

I think the pharmaceutical and mental health care industries should be indicted. This girl was being given mind-altering drugs prior to her suicide - drugs that have been shown to increase the risk of suicide. And based upon her reported problems with body weight, it is also likely that she was addicted to the chemical known as sucrose - a chemical that can cause severe mental health problems.

As long as we make Lori Drew a boogieman, the REAL issues well never be discussed. Typical. Now go feed your kids an addictive drug and blame others for the consequences.

— Hugh
8:45 am May 16th, 2008

Should Drew have been indicted? Absolutely not.

Anyone who states otherwise is probably a mean conservative with no heart.

Megan took her own life.

— BB
8:47 am May 16th, 2008

What every happened to the news that came out in the beginning but has since disappeared? I can remember in the news that Tina Meier had given in and opened another My Space account after her daughter was banned from the site. The mother knew that she had problems. She made no effort to keep her from the place that was disturbing her to begin with. Lori Drew was wrong in what she did. Megan’s mother was just as guilty for letting her daughter venture into an area that was causing her problems all along. Tina Meier knowing the condition her daughter was in should have been doing something to keep her away from potential problems. She did not. This is a very bad situation for all parties involved. No one should be prosecuted. There are several guilty parties and the girl was the ultimate loser. Sometimes things have to happen to make others think and not let anything like this happen again. Prison time solves nothing.

— Tom
8:47 am May 16th, 2008

That is absolutely insane! The meiers need to hold themselves responsible for having such a dumb little girl and allowing a relationship to develop between her and a computer monitor at the age of 13. Classic example of the blame game. The Meiers should be brought up on charges for being idiots. That picture of them on the front page of stltoday.com makes me want to punch that smirk right off Tina Meiers face. This world is going to hell when you can get 20 years in jail for playing aroung on myspace. Did they ever tell their kid that not everything you read is true?

— Mike
8:54 am May 16th, 2008

I just received an email from a friend who also has a law degree, though not practicing. He stated that this is the creating of new law. Without legislative action at the State or Federal level, the indictment itself will be challenged and, in his opinion, thrown out before any pre-trial hearings or motions.

I agree this could be a frightening precident. Big Brother would be watching you, as they already are with Cyclops, and what would be the results? A CIA or FBI Intern deciding you are committing a criminal offense?

— Concerned Republican
8:58 am May 16th, 2008

Since it was a targeted attack rather than random trolling, yes should be indicted and prosecuted. The perp knew the intended victim and targeted her for abuse which makes this a criminal act. However, the line should be drawn at causing the victim’s death since Megan and her parents would have been responsible for her emotional state.

The precedent would be similar to a bitter, hostile, jewish supremacist former employer, a Creve Coeur IT Leasing firm, making baseless claims against you and disparing remarks to prospective employers in order to prevent you from finding new employement and also coworker at that same Creve Coeur IT leasing firm that stole your job and then came by your house and damaged one of your small business service vans (because they felt zip code superiority over you) and then called the police on you to have you harassed by the Creve Coeur police vs. a random hoodlum committing vandalism on your van.

— Birdman
9:08 am May 16th, 2008

Superdave I totally agree with you!!! Parents accept responsibility for your actions. Kids are bullied, teased on a daily basis. The girl was obviously unbalanced to hang herself. That’s not normal behavior for an average teenager. You let your child have that kind of access to the internet you have to risk all the dangers it may bring. Teach your children well.

— Julie
9:10 am May 16th, 2008

I do not see much difference in what Ms Drew (49 )did to Megan (13)than an adult male pretending to be a boy talking on the internet to a girl. Here in Ohio the men get arrested all the time. Really does not matter what Megan’s parents did not did not do, Ms Drew and her family played head games with an emotionally disturbed CHILD, and she must have know it because she would not have made sure every thing was erased from My Space not told the other child not to tell anyone. Lori knew what she had done and she was afraid of getting caught.

— Pat
9:16 am May 16th, 2008

Renee–

This is an indictment, not a conviction. Drew AND her co-conspirators are charged. There is no evidence at present that Lori Drew personally did *anything* except own the computer from which the Josh emails came. As I understand the story, all along, she’s been taking the heat for her employee, and possibly, her daughter. It may very well have been minor on minor harassment.

If the media aren’t willing to let this thing rest, let it go to trial, so that everyone can find out what happened with people testifying under oath.

On another point: this country may not have existed without the ‘fictitious name’ media insurrection of the Founding Fathers. Franklin, Paine, Revere, et al were in danger of losing their livelihoods had their letters of protest against the king been published under their real names.
Names aren’t important on the Net…if a person has a valid point civilly expresed it will be respected. If they type like an idiot, that comes across too. There are perils to free expression– but the price is worth it, in my opinion.

— Teresa
9:26 am May 16th, 2008

Yes- charge her with creating a fake person online.

But NO- on blaming her for Megans suicide.
There is ZERO proof that Megan killed herself over this. ZERO.

Her parents were getting a divorce and she had just had a huge fight with her mother. I believe that these two thing had much more to do with Megan wanting to die then some fake boy online.

There are many elements all together that caused this not just one stupid woman and her fake myspace boy. The parents need to take some the blame too.

— Karen A
9:32 am May 16th, 2008

I think it is crazy that she is going to be sent to jail, yet all the sexual predators are still on Myspace and none of them have been prosecuted by Myspace!
I think what Mrs.Drew did was dispicable and morally wrong, but honestly I do not believe that she should go to jail because of it. Megan already had mental “issues”, if the boy had been a real boy and he broke up with her would there have been the same outcome? Probably. Lots of people of all ages commit suicide every year.If they are depressed for what ever reason and that is what they see as their only option, then that is what is going to happen.

— J H
9:33 am May 16th, 2008

I’m hurt and upset by all these posts. Now I am going to go kill myself. Which one of you should I blame for my suicide? How do we know that she killed herself over myspace? Maybe her mom cut off the little fatso’s brownie supply!

— Mike
9:48 am May 16th, 2008

Lori Drew already is reaping the whirlwind. The whole world knows who she is, and what she did, and legal indictments won’t change that. She and her family will be ostracized and unwelcome anywhere they go. She will spend the rest of her life watching her back, never feeling comfortable anywhere. Even if they were to change their names and move, their past would catch up eventually. So, indictment or not, she is getting hers already.

— alilit34
9:50 am May 16th, 2008

The fact in this case is there was a law broken. When you sign up for a MySpace account under false pretense that is illegal and a crime that is punishable. It states that under the terms and conditions. There should be prosecution for this act. Is this a stretch from the case that a child lost their life and the fact is yes, regardless there was a law broken and for that she has been charged. This is no way excuses the actions of Drew’s daughter or Ashley Grills who as 18 was an adult and should be charged as well.
Regarding Megan’s parents, I don’t take the blame off of her parents nor would I put more blame on them. Those who commented on her obviously do not have teenage children. It is so easy to say the parents were at fault. They didn’t do enough. The fact is there are a million plus child 13 years old children on MySpace. She was a 13 year old girl. At this age you are extremely vulnerable to everything even if you have no mental issues. Everything is to the extreme and you are very sensitive to everything. That is just how young girls are. You can’t change that. You can teach them how to have a greater amount of self esteem you could have restricted her access to MySpace but the fact that she was so sensitive wasn’t going to change. As a parent all you can do is encourage your child and help them get through the tough teenage years. You can try block out every potential negative thing that could harm them but negative people are in the world. There is no way to potentially block out every harmful thing out there. It would be impossible. The best we can do as parents is help teach them and guild them. To put all the blame on the parents is completely ludicrous. While the parents are ultimately responsible for a child there is no way to predict that an adult neighbor would create an account to hurt your child. After the fact when you can see all the details it might be easy to see that but while this is playing out you see your child be friendly with someone new. It is a tragic case of a prank gone too far. I don’t want to see prosecution for insulting someone. This is America and we should be able to say what we want, hence the freedom of speech. If they wanted to be mean to this girl they had every American right to do so. Where this case crossed the line is not the these individuals were being rude, it is the fact they went out of their way to create a fictitious site, create a fictitious person and picture and pretend to be someone else to create harm on another person. Which under this site is illegal. That is what she is prosecuted for and that is what she should be found guilty of. While there potentially are many guilty parties similarity stating the parents failed is incorrect and not what these charges and about.

— AW
9:58 am May 16th, 2008

Let’s look at the charges. Conspiracy. Conspiracy to do what? Hurt a girl’s feelings. If this Josh Evans was a real boy who said those things to Megan’s face, would he be brought up on charges? Next charge, accessing computers with false information. So Lori Drew had a made up account created on MySpace. Now let’s go after the thousands or millions of people who do not use their real identity to create a MySpace account. An emotionally fragile girl placed too much stock in a communication from someone she had never met. Her parents should have explained the internet and what some people like to do with such anonymity. I think this was a prank with unforeseen consequences and it is sad. This happens all the time and it is not a crime. Lori Drew is partly to blame as well as Megan’s parents. Two wrongs that combined with horrific consequences. This is one of those bad things that needs to be turned into an opportunity for people to learn. I am sure Lori Drew feels badly, but I still don’t think she broke the law.

— Logic
10:03 am May 16th, 2008

Yes she should have. Any adult that would intentionally treat a child the way she did….to the point that she commited suicide, should be convicted. She is supposed to be the adult rather than acting like a teenager. She deserves everything she gets and more.

— goyinhwl
10:03 am May 16th, 2008

No kidding she should be prosecuted! What kind of “Mother” (not that she deserves that title) would taunt a 13 year old? Furthermore, that she has a teenage daughter herself…I am a Mother of an almost teen, I couldn’t even imagine participating in that type of behaviour, not only as a mother but as an adult in general! Unfortunately, it won’t bring back Megan! Atleast they can have a “touch” of releif!

— DD
10:05 am May 16th, 2008

Let’s talk simply who shares the blame for this tragic incident……..

Lori Drew

Acting like a child by joining in on the MySpace fiasco. How many people over the age of 40 are on MySpace in the first place? She showed incredible stupidity and ignorance, both of which ARE NOT crimes. On the other hand, there are few rocket scientists in prison.

Should she be publically rediculed and chasized? Of course! Should she be sent to Leavenworth? No!

What would motivate a parent to act like a child is beyond reason.

Tina and Rick Meier

HELLO! Are the parents home? Why has NO ONE, other than bloggers in this venue, accused the Meiers of negligent parenting? They had to allow her access to a computer and the NET. Why were they not monitoring her activities and who she was talking too?

Meagan had obvious socio-emotional problems that required care and monitoring. Why did the Dr. prescribe anti-depressents to an adolescent? Anyone MD knows that the use of Zanax, Cellexa, Wellbutrin and other anti-depressents/anti-anxiety drugs are conraindicated for treating depression in adolescent and pre-adolescent patients. Thoughts of doing self-harm, or harm to others, is common in patients with mild to moderate depression. Why did her parents not review this with the Dr.?

Meagan Meier

As tragic as this is, why did Meagan not make her mom aware of what was happening? If she did, why did her mother not act on the problem, like taking away the computer access? Having taught this age group for an entire lifetime, I can tell you that this age is difficult enough without these kinds of activities.

While middle school age kids want to draw away at times, they are never too far away. Her emotional state should have created alarm bells that were either not considered serious or ignored altogether.

The Media

If it bleeds, it leads! Sorry, but the media sensationalism surrounding this entire case is a sad spectecal.

— Concerned Republican
10:13 am May 16th, 2008

The Court is essentially taking MySpace’s terms & conditions and making them criminal law…if every company did this, many of us would likely be in jail already. The woman did a bad thing, we can all agree on that. However, are we going to send every person to jail that says something that hurts others feelings? It is indeed tragic that the little girl took her own life due to these harsh words, but she did take her OWN life. She and her parents are likely more responsible for this death more than a woman that made a huge mistake by interjecting.

Before you send this woman to jail, think about if you have ever said anything that might hurt someone’s feelings. If so, should you go to jail because those words MAY contribute to something worse?

— Dan B
10:15 am May 16th, 2008

If Drew had caused this child to run outside and be hit by a truck, then maybe I could see her being somehow responsiable,but ultimatly we are responiable for our own actions………if I killed myself everytime someone told me to I’d be dead ahundred time over.

— rea
10:17 am May 16th, 2008

Karl and superdave (which I highly doubt!)your comments are so typical of why things like this happen. Unfit mother, it’s Megan’s fault? This case probably won’t hold, but I hope Lori Drew if frightened out of her mind.

— Stella
10:22 am May 16th, 2008

No one can help but feel for the Meier family and their loss. That said, clearly no one could have forseen what would transpire. Let’s not act as though Megan and this MySpace incident existed in a vacuum. Her parents’ relationship was on the rocks. Surely there were other problems and insecurities suffered by any 13-year-old. It’s a difficult time in a child’s life. These charges which have been pursued so aggressively by the parents are starting to feel less like justice and more like transference for the parents’ own contributions to their daughter’s fragile emotional state. If only all parents of a suicidal teen had scapegoats like the Drews. The truth is, it was a tragedy for which no one was directly responsible.

— DR
10:26 am May 16th, 2008

Just another form of an adult preying on a minor. The “adult” chose to become involved in a rift between two children. All teens (and some adults too, unfortunately) talk about their “friends” behind their backs. Why the mom felt she had to involve herself is my question. She should have let the children’s argument remain with the children!

— Chris Bright
10:29 am May 16th, 2008

Adults are supposed to be adults, not juveniles. Adults are not supposed to pick on and harrass children.

— Kenrick
10:34 am May 16th, 2008

Lori Drew should be held responsible for her actions, as any adult should. I am a bit baffeled by the comment about “flaming liberals”. Only intellectially perverted and biased minds can make something political about this tragic case. Liberals or conservatives have nothing to do with this woman’s actions. I don’t know Lori Drew’s politics…….and don’t care……….it has nothing to do with her actions………which were wrong regardless of her political leanings……..and the politics of people commenting on this case to this blog should have nothing to do with politics. This is a case of someone’s deceptive actions having tragic consequences.

— George
10:35 am May 16th, 2008

ABSOLUTELY NOT! what she did was terrible but unfortunatley, as stated by the STL DA, no crimal charges. what the fed is doing is stupid and a waste of tax payers money. Do you know how many people have fake myspace accounts. 5 MILLION. ARe we going to go after them?

— mtn
10:38 am May 16th, 2008

While I find what happened to Megan tragic, I do not find it illegal. Obviously there where some other issues. If it is illegal to “bully” someone on the internet then why not in person? If a child at school calls another child a cruel name, is that child subject to prosecution? This is nothing new, bullies have always been around. Granted, Lori is an adult and knows better, but come on!! If someone is typing something “mean” about you, DONT LOOK AT IT!! Were you called names or picked on in school? Did you commit suicide?? I think not!! There was something else going on emotionally.

— aleciamarie
10:46 am May 16th, 2008

It is unfortunate that this has to be prosecuted on a federal level, however, accountability of our actions to our society must be maintained.

For a “helicoptor” parent (those who rush to rescue their children from any perceived disaster no matter the cost to others) to emmesh themselves into an adolescent rivalry that would have blown over in a couple of days, or weeks given no adult input, or less given proper adult input, is unthinkable, especially when such venom and hate was used that a child’s depression would be realized in the taking of their own life.

I hope and pray that Ms Drew’s actions will remind us all that we are accountable for our actions and the Internet is not without consequenses, even if we log in with false credentials or pretenses, legally, morally, and ethically.

— J. Daniel Fulbright, M. Div.
10:50 am May 16th, 2008

I think that if they are going to push an indictment against Lori Drew then then need to file another one for Megan’s mom. She is an unfit parent. Megan had many problems before this incident. The one I feel sorry for is Megan. Megan had her issues and here you have an unfit parent signing her up for Myspace when she wasnt even old enough to join.

— jebstl
10:51 am May 16th, 2008

What Lori Drew did was completely childish and uncalled for. But, I feel that it is just a lack of good parenting on both sides here. Megan’s parents knew she had history of depression and yet they let her be alone after reading a comment that read “the world would be better with out you”. If they were really monitoring her on the internet like they claim they would have seen the comment and been there to comfort her and not allow her to be alone and depressed. I feel that even though Drew did an unspeakable thing there is no law that she hads broken. I understand that the legal team wants to set a precedence for the case so that cyber bullying can start to be controlled, but I do not think that they have a leg to stand on. They do not have any real proof other than witness testimony that she actually did this to Megan, at least that I know of. Prosecutors need to look elsewhere to set their precedence.

— RealisticMom
10:54 am May 16th, 2008

Wow, just about everybody here is unfit for jury duty. I hope I never face charges with this lynch mob in the jury box.

1.) Can’t see any REAL law being broken. Any new law will be non-applicable…I bet constitutional lawyers are drooling over the opportunity to jump to her defense.

2.) Without a real good suicide note, you will never even prove that emotional distress caused by an internet source was the cause of suicide, so the whole suicide cause thing will be thrown out.

3.) Good luck proving that this was the adult and not a minor.

4.) The term conspiracy is pretty laughable here

If she did this, she is a petty sick woman. I don’t think that there is any criminal charge that will stick here.

— Mike 2
10:55 am May 16th, 2008

Lets remember that Drew isn’t charged with murder or conspiracy to commit murder. She isn’t charged with manslaughter or anything related to murder. She is charged with a computer crime. The intent to harm under false pretense. Of that she is guity.
Many people are probably guilty of creating false information on the internet but are never convicted because no one is hurt and it goes unnoticed. Just as many people speed or commit other violations of the law but are never convicted because they are not caught. Drew doesn’t get the complete blame for what surrounds the story but what she is specifically charged with she did do and is guilty of. With that being said I doubt she recieves anything greater than a year prison time if that.

— AW
11:04 am May 16th, 2008

Well, mom is all spiffed up like a model waiting for the TV cameras and the big buck soap mags. In no way does she look like any of the mothers I have seen on Tv after a tragedy involving her child. Dad just stands back like a dolt glad he is out from under the family life he wasn’t ready for. Sad! Hope other parents wake up and quit blaming what can’t be blamed. Quit giving your kids drugs that change moods just for convenience if you don’t want the consequences. And unfortunately, when I umped I heard adults say things to kids you would not believe in the name of the “healthy” game of sports. Can’t wait for the appeal in this test case of stupid proportions.

— Mike
12:11 pm May 16th, 2008

I think the charges against her are fair, she cuased a little girl her life and she should be punished. She deservees both punishments. What she did was cruel and no person should be let free from that.

— Bristyn Charley
12:13 pm May 16th, 2008

I had a teacher when I was young who caused me great grief with his insulting out of line comments. I’m sure many of us have. We didn’t have PCs, but we knew when we were being harrassed and it was quite depressing when you knew you would have to face the nut who held your future in their hands day after day as they took their frustrations out on the kids. I also had a friend who lost their kid after putting him on meds with bad side effects. As far as fake accounts on social networking services, it is common practice for internet marketers to have several accounts. So do many who date, rip folks off, and go back to rip off again. Dating sites who claim they offer only singles have married folks who swing trolling there. Spreading STDs as they go. Tina with her hair highlights makes me wonder. I agree that she doesn’t act like any mother I have seen who lost their kid. Even right after the accident she was fixated on the perp excessively. No grief, just rage. And those who saw her daily say the same thing. Methinks it might have been her husband’s lay at one time, or maybe both of them played with her and now we have a suburban soap opera of sour grapes and secrets. It just don’t smell right Judge Judy! This should be fun, but leave our freedoms alone. I agree with Tim…you can tell this is an election year. And the prosecutor who finally agreed to pop the case open after so many saw there was no case has an agenda too. Should be interesting to see what that is. Maybe he likes petite highlighted blondes with no ties to responsibilities. This chick and her ex are gonna be rich. And they know it!

— Pia
12:32 pm May 16th, 2008

Gosh some of you sound COMPLETELY heartless and to put blame on the parents when they are dealing with this tragedy is just wrong! If Megan had so many problems before this incident, then a grown women should know what sort of influence this might have on a 13 year old child. If you feel someone is “talking” about you, be mature enough to confront that person. Superdave you sound like a super ASS and I feel sorry for you!!!!!! Mysapce is suppose to be fun and her mother probably thought it might help her to make friends and interact with people, not get completely tormented by a 49 year old women. Any mother should know what kind of pain a 13 year old girl will feel thinking she is in love. And you, Dave, don’t know what kind of help her parents had been getting for her maybe they did all they could for her and 13 year old girls can be very secretive. I don’t blame the parents in any way! Parents don’t get a manual telling them how to properly raise a troubled child. To say they failed thier daughter as parents is ludicrous. They did’t ask for this to happen and nobody could have predicted it. If anyone failed as a parent it is Lori Drew. She is a horrible parent to let her children think this type of behavior is acceptable and that it is okay to treat someone this way. I could go on and on!!! Joe, you pretty much summed it up though and I think you are awesome! :)

— MR
12:39 pm May 16th, 2008

I just read the ENTIRE indictment. It states, and I quote, “using the internet to gain unauthorized access to a computer.” I have several questions…………

What constitutes “unauthorized access?” If I appear as someone other than myself and someone accesses my page, does that mean I have broken the law? If this is the interpretation they are using, I don’t see how what would pass judicial review.

The “law” is unenforceable. The vaugness of the statute, if that is the exact wording, is easily challenged.

No where have I found a section of the Federal Register that specifically states the use of the NET for harassment. If it is not law, how can it be used as a basis for an indictment?

Criminal conspiracy is one of the hardest crimes to prove. There would have to be clear evidence of “intent.” It would appear to me that a 2nd year law student could sucessfully argue this case before SCOTUS.

— Concerned Republican
12:56 pm May 16th, 2008

Oh please don’t feel sorry for me. I don’t need or want your sympathy. It truly amazes me that Tina Meier gets a free pass with so many of you. Tina Meier is the one that illegally signed her up for Myspace. Worse than that, Tina Meier knew her daughter had problems to begin with and so she puts her in a place and lies to us saying that she always monitored her daughter. What a bunch of crap! If Tina Meier and her lame husband would have been responsible parents then Megan would be alive today.

The audacity of some of you people blaming most, if not all, on Lori Drew blows my mind. Lori was completely childish and it was inexcusable for her behavior. Let me say this again. Megan had problems to begin with. As stated earlier by some on here and myself, Tina Meier put her own daughter in harms way. Why would any responsible parent do that? Are you saying you would do that? Tell me it isn’t so! It is our job as parents to prepare our children for the future. I am hard on parents because I think so many of you, whether you mean it or not, put your children in positions that you wouldn’t put yourself into.

It bothers me none that I get attacked for my position. It only saddens me that there are so many irresponsible parents parenting children and blaming everyone else for their own incompetence. Oh, by the way. I raised 4 children and 3 of them were girls. I certainly didn’t teach any of my children that it’s ok to disobey the rules, but more importantly I sure as hell wouldnt help them disobey the rules. Please defend that one. As far as I am concerned, if that little girl wasn,t put in that position then we wouldnt be on here making comments now, would we? Try being parents first before you decide to be best friends with your kids. They can find friends but parent are hard to come by, as shown on this blog!

— superdave
1:14 pm May 16th, 2008

The have intent. They have a testimony by Ashley Grills that states Lori Drew knew of the page, suggested the page, and suggested some of the comments made.

— AW
1:16 pm May 16th, 2008

You can never completely block your children from harm. Are you kidding me? Did you lock your 4 children in a box and let them out only for air and water. Harm is out there. It will never go away. At best we can give our children all the tools to deal with and stay clear of it but it will never be completely gone from our children. If that is the case why do children get sexual abused at church and school, places that are meant and suppose to be safe.

You don’t know how much monitoring was done by her parents. You can not be judgemental and assume there was a lack of parenting. It is not illegal to sign a 13 year old up for myspace. There are many out there. It is however illegal to pretend you are 14.

It was a sad outcome to an event were many people were to blame.

— AW
1:24 pm May 16th, 2008

Drew is just charged with creating a false identity.
As to that I totally agree.

But blaming her for Megans CHOICE to kill herself is just the act of a bitter and angry mother and father. I’ve never seen one woman try so hard to point the blame as far as she can from herself. Its become a full time job for her. One and on she goes “Drew murdered my baby, Drew did this, Drew did that” Never once taking any responsibity for herself.

For all we know Megan thought she was too fat and hated her body. This online stuff may not have bothered her at all. Maybe her home life was bad. Maybe mom and dad were fighting all the time. These reason make far more sense. More sense then a fake boy online she NEVER meet hurting her feelings. HE WAS A STRANGER who cares if he like you?

Maybe the sad truth is the parents are the reason. Fighting? Ignoring her? Nagging her? Not paying attention to her problems?
Who know what happens behind closed doors?
Hard to believe but it could be true.

Only Megan knows the truth and she chose to leave us guessing.

— Karen A
1:24 pm May 16th, 2008

Unfortunately the one thing you don’t need a license for is to have children. If that was the case, our population would be a lot lower.

— Concerned Republican
1:31 pm May 16th, 2008

Has she been taken into custody by U.S. Marshals?

— Concerned Republican
1:34 pm May 16th, 2008

She has until June to turn herself in.

— AW
1:37 pm May 16th, 2008

Superdave, you and I are on the same page. I too raised three daughters. There were many problems that all parents face. None of them ended up on anti-depressants. Megan’s problems started long before Lori Drew came into the picture. Her parents never taught her to respect life and that there would be problems to deal with. This whole thing is a mess. Lori Drew is not normal by any stretch of the imagination. Neither is Tina Meier or her husband. As I said in an earlier post. In the beginning of all this, it was reported by the new media that Tina Meier had opened a My Space account for her after her daughter was ban from the site. I don’t remember the specifics but I will go back and try to find it. All parties involved are responsible for this. In today’s world, everyone is looking for an excuse to blame someone else for their own actions.

— Tom
1:42 pm May 16th, 2008

My brothers first wife acussed him everyday of being unfaithful………..all the while she was cheating.

the morel of the stoy is sometime we deflect the bame on others so we don’t seem so obviouse hmmmmmm

— rea
1:43 pm May 16th, 2008

Should Lori Drew be indicted? Yes.

As to the “law”, there is case law where other Mothers have done similar things and even more horrible and have been held responsible. Try the infamous Texas Cheerleader’s Mom case from a while ago.

Suicide is one of the leading causes of death for teens. One should not treat teens (especially 13 year olds) as if they are adults, they are not physically, biologically or psychologically.

To those “concerned” people who are blaming Meagan’s parents for lack of supervision and her suicide — just remember they were not the one’s who created the account, authored a false personality, established a bogus relationship, then through the use of these items abused and demeaned a 13 year old girl.

Should they have been snooping on her accounts? Of course. But try that with your teen and see what happens.

— RHarnack
2:37 pm May 16th, 2008

Definitely, she is responsible for Megan’s death. This was child abuse. This was disgusting, irresponsible behavior. She knew that Megan had some problems, she knew everything about Megan’s problems, not to mention how emotional and fragile all teens are. For those who don’t agree, think of this, this is worse than if she fed a peanut butter sandwich to a child with severe peanut allergies. I truly hope she serves many years. They must send a message that you can not get away with using the internet to hurt someone. An adult especially, should absolutely know better and needs to be held responsible. I want to know if charges can be brought against her from the boy whose picture she fraudulently used. I’d like to hear about that also. God bless Megan.

— lamkp
2:41 pm May 16th, 2008

Truly Amazing!

When comments such as RHarnack and lamkp appear on here I know why now we have such a mess on our hands. Research and evidence does not matter to people like them. However, it sure feels good though. First off, the Texas Cheerleader case is like comparing apples and screwdrivers. Either you have no logic skills or you no idea what the facts were. Try looking the facts. Explaining logic to you just might be above your head anyway.

As far as that ridiculous analogy about peanut silliness then I guess when Tina Meier signed Megan up for Myspace even though Megan was too you then I will use your comparison. That would be Megan had a peanut allergy so Tina Meier drove her to the peanut farm and dropped her off for Megan to fend for herself. How ridiculous does that sound?

Tina Meier and her husband are the first ones in line for child abuse charges in my book. If I was either one of them, I think I would go hide somewhere in shame for the pitiful things I had done to harm Megan.

I find it pathetic though that you are making excuses and feeling sorry for these people. The poor girl had many issues long before Lori Drew got involved. Was that Lori Drew’s fault too? There is one constant in the story of Megan during all her troubles and that was her parents. They didn’t do their job and now they are blaming everyone else.

No wonder we have 3 fools running for President.

— superdave
2:54 pm May 16th, 2008

For those of you who derive satisfaction with the decision to charge L. Drew …know this…Im quite sure as she is that much of NOTHING will come from these charges…Just a lot of money wasted and time.
This is just the first step in our future,..a future where we have NO FREEDOM OF ANONYMITY. Technologies exist today that can HELP..(and I say help ..because I feel its a nearly impossible task)to ID users of EVERY network or website. These companies mking and selling these technologies are licking their chops as we speak.
And as is usually the case when we lose our freedoms …It will be done under the guise of protection for our children. Well thank you very much …But I dont need anyone to help me do my job as a parent ( which I have 2 teenage daughters)..Maybe other parents could try doing their jobs and this whole issue would be a moot point.

— like u care
3:30 pm May 16th, 2008

As a parent before all of this played out, could you have known that someone would protray a 14 year old boy. Myspace should be used a social networking site. Allowing access to minors should be taken with caution. While I won’t let my 13 year old have an account doesn’t mean every 13 year shouldn’t that is for the parent to decide. This parent chose to and allowed for her child to add friends. I read in a previous article that before friends could be added Tina (the mother) had to approve in which she said he seemed innocent enough. There was no reason to question that the acts of this website to be malicious and would cause her daughter so much harm. Potentially she should have read the messages but at some point you must trust your child. You should not assume that someone has with intent created a fake site to her your child nor at the time was there ever evidence of that till the end.

Some children have emotional problems and the best thing you can do for them is to take them to get help. Either that be through some type of doctor visits, medicine, whatever approach. If a medicine had side effects that help this diagnosed that is not lack of parenting. Sometimes there is simpily nothing you can do to help.

Suggesting blame without all the facts is wrong. Every parent out there has made mistakes and has lacked some better judgement at some point. To suggest that anyone on here or out in the world hasn’t make a mistake as a parent is not even believable.

— AW
3:46 pm May 16th, 2008

For those makes accusations about the Meier’s appearance and lack of grief, if your like me you probably heard about this incident within the past six months which means these parents had a year or better to grieve over the loss of their daughter. The idea that they are in this for money is a silly notion, they have lost a love one and are most likely devastated and it isn’t usual for people in mourning often act in bizarre ways. If it were me I wouldn’t know where to turn, I would think that they have looked at themselves as being partly if no wholly to blame and they will most likely always be revisiting their role in this incident until they die.

To blame the Meiers based on your own good fortune of successfully raising children is wrong; raising children is an educated crapshoot. If everything falls into place you’re successful but if a few things don’t go your way all of your good efforts can become null and void and something like this can happen. Add to this the bad luck of trying to raise a child who is subject to depression your are in for a real rollercoaster of a ride, I have lived it myself and hopefully have gotten through, but this could have been my child just as easily as theirs if an outsider had ventured into our lives in this manner.

Megan suffered from depression and most likely she had ups and downs like any child, but when you have a child who suffers from depression the lows can get especially low and can happen in an instant not giving you time to react unless you never leave their side. Try as we may no parent can watch over their children 24/7 as much as you would like to. The teenage years are ones of exploration and learning to become an adult, in the midst of hormones and changing bodies and emotions which cloud everything, throw in depression and you get a very rough ride with an uncertain outcome. As a parent of a child with depression you do your best to raise them in as normal of an environment as you can, so you generally don’t announce their depression to people because you want them to judge your child based on generally misinformed preconceived notions. Raising any child is tough, raising a child with depression is a lot tougher, throw in an adult who starts playing with your child’s emotional wellbeing and you have a recipe for disaster.
What ever you may perceive as the faults of the Meiers they loved their daughter and did nothing intentional to contribute to her death, but ironically will wonder “what if” the rest of their lives.
As for me I am a staunch, conservative, republican and believe in traditional parent, so please don’t label me as a liberal for parenting from a different perspective.

Another Tom

— Numadog
3:51 pm May 16th, 2008

Again….I just don’t belive you can cause another person to take their own life ultimitly if it is by ones own hand it is caused by that person,regardless of what others do or say…I can’t blame you for what I eat if that makes any sence…..

— rea
4:16 pm May 16th, 2008

Tom, you seem like a nice guy and I too am a staunch conservative. However, our politics has nothing to do with this. Except, I find you making excuses for the people with the most power, which are the Meiers. Are you telling me that you would allow your daughter to get onto Myspace when is was illegal to do so. Are you telling me that you would lie to allow your daughter access to things that she is not capable of handling especially considering the circumstances? Are you telling me that if your daughter is having depression issues that you would not spend extra time to work through this. Something tells me that you would.

The Meiers did not act responsibly. We have to stop making excuses for bad behavior. I love my kids very much but sometimes they won’t like me for the decisions I must make for them. Does it bother me? Sometimes it does. However, that’s my problem. I still have a job as a parent and many times I lose the popularity contest but that’s not what I am here for.

This subject is near and dear to me. I used to coach and I found so many parents who failed miserably at parenting their own children. They expected me to do their job. Of course when I did correct them then I was accused of being mean to their child and I assure you nothing could be farther from the truth. People make mistakes as I have but taking responsibility for those mistakes is not happening here. What really bothers me is Tina Meier was out there giving lectures at schools. Oh Please, give me a break.

Here is the bottom line with Lori Drew. What if the person bothering Megan was her age or even younger. I assure you there are many kids out there that can do it. I would bet you it’s happened many times and quite possible that bad results happened. My wife can tell you because she knows due to the fact she is a teacher. Lori Drew is quite guilty of immoral behavior but not even close to forcing that poor girl to go hang herself. Any serious person has to admit that Megan already had issues. Her parents had ultimate contol and not only did little but signed her up. Pitiful!

— superdave
4:35 pm May 16th, 2008

However,Lori isn’t charged with Megan hanging herself. She is charged with using a computer under the pretense of someone else.

— aw
8:24 pm May 16th, 2008

I cannot believe that all of these people are willing to give up their freedom to be anonymous just for the pleasure of seeing one woman in one case who we cannot be completely sure did ANYTHING wrong other than set up a Myspace account reap consequences of actions that are more based on emotion than logic or justice. These people, who want to ‘protect the children’ and build a bubble around them are going to ruin this country. If this case succeeds, it will only be a matter of time before net anonymity is lost. What comes next? A case in which someone was mean to someone else, face to face, and somehow caused that person to commit suicide? What will happen then, cameras with audio across the whole United States, so that evidence can be gathered easier for future cases of ‘emotional abuse?’ That’s the road we are on. It sounds illogical and stupid now, but many times in our high speed world, the weirdest and most illogical endpoint we can imagine often comes and goes with ease while we are still debating the case that started it all.

— Ogma
10:17 pm May 16th, 2008

“When comments such as RHarnack and lamkp appear on here I know why now we have such a mess on our hands. Research and evidence does not matter to people like them. However, it sure feels good though. First off, the Texas Cheerleader case is like comparing apples and screwdrivers. Either you have no logic skills or you no idea what the facts were. Try looking the facts. Explaining logic to you just might be above your head anyway.”

Gee, Superdave I didn’t know you cared.

1. The Texas Cheerleader is analogous in that you had one deranged Mother taking it into her own hands to physically destroy one of her daughter’s competition so that her daughter could go on. If she had had MySpace, etc. available, she may have chosen to savage the girl on-line. What you have is the Mother of one child aiding and abetting the on-line abuse of another child because her daughter didn’t like her.

2. As to research etc., look it up. Suicide among teens remains in the top three causes of death in teens. Cf.:
http://www.aacap.org/page.ww?section=Facts%20for%20Families&name=Teen%20Suicide
http://www.nami.org/Content/ContentGroups/Helpline1/Teenage_Suicide.htm
http://www.familyfirstaid.org/suicide.html

3. Lastly, as someone who had a seemingly well-adjusted and exceptional student commit suicide, and, as someone who has helped another friend keep from committing suicide, I have a different perspective on bullying and abusive behavior of any kind, especially when it comes to children.

As to logic being above my head, when presented with it no, and neither is it beneath me.

— RHarnack
10:21 pm May 16th, 2008

I believe she should face some charges, she knew the young lady had mental issues.
This is sad a grown woman, messing with a childs mental state. It is hard enough being a kid. But to have a adult do this is wrong and should be punished. I am not sure 20 years is fair. But she should pay and let it be a example for others.
God bless Megan’s family.
And the family of this very stupid woman that has placed them in the middle of such a stupid prank.

— Pat Wirthwein
5:46 am May 17th, 2008

Once more . . . this indictment is a frighteningly ridiculous abuse of the federal criminal justice system. I’m mortified at the pitchfork-wielding mob mentality exhibited by a number of posters here who obviously do not care one whit about what the federal statute at issue actually governs.

This specific federal law (18 USC § 1030) prohibits “unauthorized access” or “exceeding authorized access” to a computer used in interstate communication. Those phrases in quotations are not defined in the statute by the duly elected Congress. However, according to this publicity-starved fool O’Brien, those phrases ARE arbitrarily defined by . . . ummm . . . whatever lawyers MySpace hired to author the MySpace “Terms of Service” (TOS).

Huh?

That’s right. In the indictment against Lori Drew, THE TOS OF SOME SOCIAL NETWORKING INTERNET COMPANY KNOWN AS MYSPACE apparently dictate whether Drew may be criminally prosecuted and possibly serve 20 years in a federal prison. For the life of me, I simply don’t remember MySpace’s “suits” being elected to Congress or - for that matter - being congressionally authorized to define substantive portions federal criminal law.

How comforting to know that there exist attention-starved U.S attorneys intentionally misusing the awesome prosecutorial power of the U.S. federal government to jail citizens based on a set privately-written internet company usage rules.

Let’s hope none of you WASP internet users are signed into a social networking site whose terms of use happen to require you to be a Hispanic Buddhist. Your use of that site is “unauthorized” and you may end up in the same cell block as Drew.

— PawPaw
7:07 am May 17th, 2008

CORRECTION OF PRIOR POST:

The phrase “exceeds authorized access” is indeed defined by the the applicable statute. It means, “access a computer with authorization and to use such access to obtain or alter information in the computer that the accesser is not entitled so to obtain or alter.”

— PawPaw
7:49 am May 17th, 2008

First off RHarnack, I am not aware of your situations but I am also privy enough not to play that game. The Texas cheerleader mother case is quite different then this one. The mother arranged a contract for murder for the mother and the daughter. That situation is far different than this one. To be frank, if you don’t see that then I now understand why you probably didnt see it in your situation. I know that’s harsh but I won’t play this game to satisfy one’s issue if there is one to begin with. The facts are that this teen had many problems to begin with and when Tina Meier illegally signed her up to be on Myspace knowing full well of Megan’s problems then I call that dam near criminal. We make far too may excuses for bad behavior here for the ones that have the control.

I will not get into your situation because I don’t have the facts to be fair. I am far from being a hard individual and it’s so easy to brand someone as such. I was the coach for the kids. I watched as so many parents lived through their kids or tried to be their kids best friend. My whole point is that we as parents have a massive responsibility and so many parents do not truly accept that responsibility and fail miserably. Parent are quick to fix a problem with a drug. Parents drop there 12 year olds off at the mall to hang out with much older kids that they cannot know how to act when put in certain situations. How far do you want me to go?

It is unfair of you to use this situation and compare it to your own. If I were you I think I would run far away from this before drawing comparisons. If you do then it makes you look foolish. If your situation was different then I would suggest you say so but don’t make yourself look foolish by showing similar circumstances between yours and Megan’s.

— superdave
8:42 am May 17th, 2008

This is my last post here.

1. Yes, parents have a heavy burden. There has been way too much pressure put on younger children to be “pro-athletes” or some such unrealistic expectation. This type of toxic parenting needs to be addressed and confronted by coaches, teachers, other family members, etc.

2. Regardless of Meagan’s predispositions and previous threats to committ suicide (if that be the case), it is my experience that most people are unwilling to take such statements seriously simply because it is so alien to our nature. Yet the statistics are against this sanguine expectation.

3. A child’s expectation is that adults will behave as adults and shoulder their adult responsibility to care for and protect them. Children seldom expect adults to be vindictive and hostile toward them.

4. I did not draw any comparisons with having lost an exceptional student to suicide. Rather, after the experience of having to sit and console his Mother, and, after having to work with my friend to keep him from committing suicide, I made myself a promise that I would confront at every turn the easy assumptions surrounding this.

5. I truly hope that the Drews are seeking help and counseling for their child so that she does not become another tragedy. That is one of the major problems with suicide, others are more profoundly affected than is usually acknowledged.

6. Lori Drew and others have a lot to answer for. Whether the indictment will hold up or not is a matter for the courts to decide now.

7. “Superdave” when you state: “I will not get into your situation because I don’t have the facts to be fair.” You are correct. But if you wanted to learn about on-line bullying, and teen suicide, they are out there.

Here are some resources:

Cyber-Bullying/Online Bullying:
http://www.besafeonline.org/English/bullying_online.htm
http://www.cybersmartcurriculum.org/lesson_plans/68_04.asp
http://www.isafe.org/

Teen Suicide:
http://www.aacap.org/page.ww?section=Facts%20for%20Families&name=Teen%20Suicide
http://www.nami.org/Content/ContentGroups/Helpline1/Teenage_Suicide.htm
http://www.familyfirstaid.org/suicide.html

— RHarnack
9:27 am May 17th, 2008

I think this situation is so very sad all around.Everyone involved is guilty.As far as medication for mentally ill people the anti-depressants are wonderful drugs.They have saved many,many lives and will continue to save lives.To blame a drug company is nuts.

— momama
9:40 am May 17th, 2008

I really wonder if more than 20% of the people here understand that an indictment is not a conviction?

Anyone can accuse anyone else of almost anything. Justice has been perverted here in that the grand jury assembled to indict Ms. Drew is not a jury of her peers — sorry, LA residents are quite different than Midwesterners, with different values, and anyone thinking this is a reasonable “change of venue” is merely addled.

Maybe someone should indict Brad Paisley for promoting such spoofing behavior in is song “Online” (video on You Tube). Folks just need to chill.

(Hey, anyone seen the story out of Gerald, Mo. of the guy who impersonated a DEA agent for two months? That’s got to be a whole lot worse than pretending to be a 16 year old boy. What’s next? We indict and imprison all fiction writers for impersonating multiple characters? How about biographers of dead people? Actors and actresses? It’s the hoosegow for them! People have killed themselves over unrequited crushes on Hollywood heartthrobs and musicians. We need to protect the children. No more music, video or movies unless they are documentaries with no recreations allowed. Anyone not satisfied being who they are, and role-playing in any form? Didn’t Kurt Vonnegut write a story about this sort of behavior way back in the 60s…oops, he’s already dead, and cannot be indicted. You know, the Bible isn’t a signed, iris-scan authenticated document. We don’t know…maybe it was written by the Devil to deceive us!)

The so-called co-conspirators have to live with themselves and Megan’s memory for their whole lives anyway. Seems to me the shame of that would be enough, instead of having to also endure “Scarlet Letter” style harassment.

— Teresa
11:17 am May 17th, 2008

terrorists…bomb away…if this gets past the first stage of prosecution this country isn’t worth a damn anyway. Give kids dangerous drugs with known side effects that include suicidal thoughts. set them in front of a computer where you know they are having problems while you go out to try to find somebody to replace the kids dad. have dad be out shacking up and too busy to watch kid. then have an adult who is doing the same thing the whole cluster-f of idiots in that hood do every day that they probably learned on soap operas and reality shows tease the kid. Bingo…recipe for letting violent criminals out because there is no space in jail because they lock up similar adults. throw in an election that needs to give a boot in the butt to progressive things with red herring issues. you have arecipe for arbitrary punishment and loss of freedoms while searching for deep pockets. let wall streeters that the bombs missed go free who stole millions from the world. recipe for a great country…no? and they laugh…they laugh at this sham of a democracy. now hand those kids more pharmaceutical drugs that we know have bad side effects so we can sue fresh meat. we have male stalkers who can’t be stopped carrying guns and killing women and children in domestic violence cases. we have priests raping babies who run free with the sanction of their insane “church” leaders. steal us blind politicos, but at least we have women we can lock up for doing things folks do everyday. progress sucks. back to the stone tablets and headpieces for the women. bomg away boys…let’s start over…we lost the freedoms here.

— PoDunk
12:05 pm May 17th, 2008

I have seen sports coaches and gym teachers harass kids unmercifully over the years. Some committed suicide. Gay kids commit suicide in great numbers because of “religious” evil people. Get a grip. This is only a mirror of american society at its best. They just chose to jump on this ridiculous case because we have so little control over the rest of our lives. Once again, the internet and progressive forms of living take a hit in the name of a sick american society that is already firmly entrenched in the muck of the USofA. Mom…dad…you screwed up. Get over it!

— marti
12:10 pm May 17th, 2008

Wow! Lots of feelings on this one. I’d just like to say if Obama has any issues with guns in the next few months, we jump on Huckleberry Hill Boy and indict HIM like they are attempting to do to this misguided bunch. I think folks are so discouraged at the anti-children things our society has started doing more and more that they are jumping on this with both feet. Hope it plays out right, but get rid of the bad drugs and you’ll go a step in the right direction. Hey highlighted honey of a mom…who knows where dad is today…sue the drug company and you’ll be going in a better direction here. I don’t want a violent offender let out because your revenge hood feud took a cell space. You are not squeeky clean enough for a trial and have more tears in your future that shouldn’t be there. Leave the net alone. We have enough real life destructive ones we can’t get locked up for whatever reason. I would rather my kids get harrassed online than in real life. Plug goes out of wall. Problem solved. Moving truck comes…probleam solved.

— Slugger
12:22 pm May 17th, 2008

Whew: It took 30 seconds to scroll back through all the posts discussing the topic.

Charging that woman with a crime based on law promulgated by Myspace is so ridiculous….but funny.

Suppose the nutty Feds get a conviction. The results will be more laughable. Police who have caught sexual predators by pretending to be a under aged girl will move into cells that perverts now live, and will be sent home because the police said they were someone else.!!!!

You can’t have it both ways.

The legal wrangling is silly….the charges against the woman will be dropped
if the attorneys have common sense.

The woman who allegedly “caused” the suicide, can write a book and make millions, based on the interest that been shown by posters in here.

— johnh
12:47 pm May 17th, 2008

I find it grimmly ammusing that a 13 year old commited suicide, yet there is much talk of a politics on this blog. Sorry, the liberals did not cause this!!!
Maybe just b/c it is an election year (and everyone, down to Newt, is sick of the rebuplicans).
Her father is on the news with his girlfriend, yet both parents are trying to blame an outside party. She was (diagnosed) mentally ill, her parents aren’t getting along, she had a fight w/ mom (common, and I’m sure her mother will taunt herself forever for it, prior to her death)…lets blame a phantom. Not only is it ridiculous, I am embarressed for the parents.
Let her rest in peace.

— Joy
5:50 am May 18th, 2008

The people who are arguing in favor of prosecution based on Lori Drew being a bad person who hurt a child’s feelings should be lobotomized– it would raise your IQ. Adults hurt the feelings of children all the time: bad grades, divorces, moving away from friends, etc. Lori Drew is no worse than millions of other insensitive adults.

The point that you bleeding hearts miss is that SHE ISN’T BEING CHARGED FOR HURTING THE KID’S FEELINGS. She is being charged for violating TOS, which the government is stupidly arguing is the same thing as hacking MySpace.

Anybody with the intellectual development of a five year-old understands why this is an affront to internet users, but try explaining that to these numbskulls. THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO MAKE EVERYONE A CRIMINAL.

— Non Sense
9:36 am May 18th, 2008

I don’t usually participate in these on-line blogs, but I am shocked by some comments it is hard not to reply. I don’t consider myself to be the sharpest cookie, but it doesn’t take a genious to realize, yes Megan’s mom probably shouldn’t have signed her up on Myspace, but ultimately, without a doubt that is not what triggered Megan to go over the edge. Someone who is troubled, hearing the words from someone she thought she loved telling her “the world would be a better place without you” is what caused her so much pain that convinced her to end her life. No matter what mental problems she had or how many times she cried wolf about killing herself, “Josh Evans” (Lori Drew) is what pushed her over the edge… PERIOD!!! I work in Corrections. Do I feel Lori is a danger to society and should be locked up???? I don’t think that will help anything, but I do believe she played a much greater role in Megan taking her own life than anyone else did. I am going to attack SUPERDAVE one more time because you seem to be the most opinionated person on here and obviously think you are the smartest, most amazing parent that ever lived. To me a lot of what you say sounds rediculous and you seem like a very closed-minded individual. I am almost thinking in some way you must be related to the Drew family, because you are very HARSH towards the Meier family! Everything you say is cruel and evil and sounds very one-sided. I am wondering myself, did you keep your children in a box and only let them out for air?? Did you let your children live thier own life and let them learn from thier own mistakes??? My mother is by far my BESTFRIEND in the whole entire world and if you think she is a bad mother for being my bestfriend you are crazy and probably don’t have half the trust and great relationship I have with my parents. That is sad! I don’t agree with how Megan’s mom is soaking up the Media attention, but I honestly believe she thought signing her up for Myspace would be a good thing. I think it would’ve been good for her until a 49 year old women seeks out revenge and deliberately torments a young child just because she THOUGHT her daughter was being talked about! She knowingly tried to hurt this child on her own free will. Megans Mom mistakingly made a bad choice and she will pay for it for the rest of her life. There is a huge difference and nobody can forsure say Tina Meier is to blame for the death of her daughter, but without a doubt nobody can deny that what Lori Drew did was WRONG, hateful and planned, to make Megan intentionally suffer!!! It bothers me deeply that you honestly believe her parents failed her. Superdave, you are a cruel, cold-hearted person for putting down anyone that you don’t even know for thier parenting skills on here. You have no right and no logic to back it up. It’s your opinion and that doesn’t make you right. You sound so matter-of-fact about everything, but it’s just your stupid ass opinion that I hope nobody actually takes serious!!!

— MR
12:02 pm May 19th, 2008

Okay so everyone has opinion. Who really is guilty?! Well I think we need to place blame were it is due……..

Lori Drew for setting up the fake page and person

Her co-conspirators they helped to bring this fake person to life

Megan’s parents for being so blind to her daughters actual problems

Society, because this is the behavior everyone learns from Television, magazines, movies, video games and the internet. Most of all we need to blame ourselves for not watching out for the young children today, and just being a country so full of hate and worrying about what others think about us. Not to mention everyone as a society is ready with open arms to point a finger at someone else when something goes wrong, but no one take responsibility for their own actions anymore.

Everyone is so “I’ll sue you” happy, it makes me sick!

and we may as well include blame on Josh Evans (even though he is a fictional character, he is still responsible, he broke Megans heart after all)!

So who really is guilty?!

— Just my opinion
1:34 pm May 19th, 2008

If you asked me this before 9/11, the answer would have been no.

Today, I say throw the book at her and a few other things. When people like her act as mean as she did and do it in a chickens**t manner hiding behind a computer impersonating a fictious boy, she should have her picture in a dictionary next to the word unbalanced.

Karl, you obviously don’t have children. If you do, don’t let them out of the house. It’s an ignorant boy crazy world out there. You’re a clown calling the victim emotionally detached - a victim getting messages from an immature adult woman, who made herself anonymous on a computer. What a surprise!

And I post using my real name.

— Scott_Simon
6:04 am May 20th, 2008

I can’t help but read these and see the absolute disconnect that people have with responsibility and their own children. We are here to protect our children and not put them in harms way. Lori Drew could have easily been a 9 year old but it wasn’t.

If so many on here want to hand their own responsibility over to someone else. What parent would put their troubled daughter in this situation? Don’t give me this garbage that I am so hard. I am not of fan of Lori Drew but that doesnt take away the responsibility of Megan’s parents. She have her problems before Lori Drew appeared. Therefore, It was Megan’s parents who didn’t act responsibly. They failed her and now she is dead. That’s as simple as it gets.

— superdave
9:43 am May 20th, 2008

I can’t believe that Lori Drew would do something like this. I just hope the Hardy Boys keep their noses clean.

— government skuled
4:09 pm May 20th, 2008

For those of you blaming Megans mother…get your facts straight. Pull up your search engine and type in Lori Drew. You can read the facts and the full story. Megans parents are NOT at fault. Lori tortured and bullied this girl via the internet. Lori was FORTY EIGHT!!! Megan was 13. Lori also engaged in sexual conversation with this 13 year old girl…has shown no remorse and has taken absolutely no responsibility for her actions. Lori KNEW the family, she KNEW what condition Megan was in. She needs to be punished for her actions.

— CD
9:31 am June 17th, 2008

Her actions were cruel and hateful. She’s at fault by law but what about her husband and daugther-they too should be reprimanded. How could they not see what they were doing was inhumane and outright vicious? It’s honestly, evil.

— lily
9:52 pm June 27th, 2008