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06.30.2008 1:07 am

Should Illinois lawmakers bring back executions?

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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Over five years ago, former Illinois Gov. George Ryan emptied the states’ death row over fears that an innocent person could be executed. Five years and many discussions and hand-wringing later, the state is no closer to a permanent decision.

The current governor, Democrat Rod Blagojevich, refuses to carry out executions of the 14 people now on death row despite approving several reforms. Lawmakers have ignored legislative attempts to decide the issue. And prosecutors are slower to seek the death penalty.

Like today’s Associated Press story says, “It’s time for lawmakers to lift the moratorium or abolish the death penalty.”

DuPage County State’s Attorney Joseph Birkett said Gov. Blagojevich should lift the moratorium, saying the reforms have made it virtually impossible for the innocent to end up on death row.

“This has been a thoughtful, careful and informed set of reforms that all parties have had a chance to weigh in on and I don’t think the governor is even aware of these and the effect that they’re having across the state,” Birkett said.

But Jane Bohman, executive director of the Illinois Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty, argues the capital punishment system has improved but is still flawed.

Other states have made more progress, including New Jersey, Virginia and California. Even Missouri has an execution planned for the near future.

Should Illinois lawmakers bring back executions?

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Speaking with Jesus as my example, I would say if you are righteous enough to hold those beliefs then execute them.

I won’t participate.

— Scott K.
7:51 am July 3rd, 2008

Cathy7,

No one is saying that there should not be consequences for what we call capital offenses and that these murderers should baby-sit or be allowed back into society. What I am saying is that our laws need to be adjusted to make sure a life sentence with no possibility of parole is just that, a life sentence.

If you think these types of people are the only evil people around then you don’t understand what evil is. Evil shows it face in every aspect of life and society. There are evil attorneys, evil judges and evil leaders who do not murder, murderers are not the only evil people in a society.

My faith and trust n God to decide who should be condemned (death) is so strong that I no longer don’t worry about these things. And due to Satan being in the world, I realize that there will be devastating deaths and murders. What I do worry about is how society is not allowing God the power to handle things.

I look at many stories of the Bible concerning how God is capable of handling things, even something as small as lying, which is really no small thing, but society today thinks that it is a small thing.

I think about the story about Ananias and Sapphira, when you allow God to be judge, he will act. In that story: Acts 4:1-10:

There was a man named Ananias, who with his wife Sapphira sold some property that belonged to them. But with his wife’s agreement he kept part of the money for himself and turned the rest over to the apostles. Peter said to him, “Ananias, why did you let Satan take control of you and make you lie to the Holy Spirit by keeping part of the money you received for the property? Before you sold the property, it belonged to you; and after you sold it, the money was yours. Why, then, did you decide to do such a thing? You have not lied to people - you have lied to God! As soon as Ananias heard this, he fell down dead; and all who heard about it were terrified. The young men came in, wrapped up the body, carried him out, and buried him.

About three hours later his wife, not knowing what had happened, came in. Peter asked her, “Tell me, was this the full amount you and your husband received for your property?” “Yes,” she answered, “the full amount.”

So Peter said to her, “Why did you and your husband decide to put the Lord’s Spirit to the test? The men who buried your husband are at the door right now, and they will carry you out too! At once she fell down at his feet and died. The young men came in and saw that she was dead, so they carried her out and buried her beside her husband.

The reason that people are committing such evil crimes as the young woman who cut open the womb of the pregnant young lady and murdered her two other children and men raping babies and small children, husbands killing their wives and babies, fathers killing their children, mothers killing their children, all these demonic things at such rapid rates today, the young man who just murdered at least eight people this week, gangs and their senseless murders etc. We are seeing serious demonic activity in our society today.

Satan is over taking people because God is far away from most people’s hearts and mind. He isn’t even a thought today to most people. What you are seeing is demonic oppression of people, much evil because of this and, the fact that people are unknowingly opening up doors for Satan to enter into their hearts and minds by the different sins that they are doing and experimenting with, knowing nothing about spiritual matters where sin and especially certain types of sin is concerned.

There was a time in American society where even before giving testimonies in court, people had to give a sworn oath placing their hands on the Holy Scriptures, which was an oath also to God that they were telling the truth, it was not just an oath to the court. There is Spirit within the Holy Scriptures, and God’s Spirit at work when He is in the hearts and minds of people.

No wonder it is nothing for people to lie under oath today and commit such unthinkable acts. Witnesses, civilian and policemen and authorities alike, so many of them lie and are capable of such evil today, this type behavior is no longer isolated but is very much the norm in today’s society. Wherever God is welcomed, He is near.

When I hear ones like cathy7 speak, it remind s me of myself, all the hate and bitterness I had within myself due to the actions of evil people, I wished death upon them, and certainly did not even want God to forgive such people, it was unthinkable to me for such people who had done such evil things could possibly have the a opportunity to have salvation. I didn’t even want them to change; I just wished that they would be removed from this earth. Even after I knew this was not God’s will, I use to speak with God in prayer and say to Him; “ I can’t lie to You, you know how I feel, I hate them and I want them to die, I know it is not your way that I have these feelings, but it is what I feel and it is real, I can’t help it, but since you are God, you can change my heart I can’t do it.
The evil in this world was getting the best of me. God tells us to not let evil over come us. You see, it is natural to want revenge, but God has called us to be greater, and we can be through the strength that we have through the Holy Spirit to help us gurad our thoughts and actions. Revenge is all that the death penalty is.

What about the victim, cathy7 asks. My question is how is killing a victims murderer helping the victim? The statement in itself shows the ugly sin of revenge.

It took a years for my heart to completely change concerning the death penalty, revenge etc. I had so much hate in my heart because of evil people and corrupt people who I felt deserved to be hated. I had legitimate reasons to hate these people I justified to myself.

As only God can, He worked a miracle within my heart to be in line with His way of thinking. It has been a very hard and painful road God molding my heart to reflect more of His.

If one does not control their thoughts and guard their mind, especially Christians, Satan will enter it. I think about Charles Thornton of Kirkwood, this is exactly what took place, Satan over took his thoughts and mind to destroy others and himself. One must keep their mind on God and guard their thoughts all the more through trying times and when all else fail to never stop trusting God to fight these most difficult battles that we come across in life.

Also, Scott, I am not condemning anyone to hell because they don’t agree with me. I am only stating what the New Testament, God’s word state concerning these matters and the danger God’s word tells us that we in of eternal damnation because of our hearts not being set straight concerning these very things. Same with abortions, at some point in order for a person to come to God, they will have to repent from that act and all other sins in their life and turn away from SIN for forgiveness and the hope of salvation.

God is the only One who can both create life and take it away. Satan can only take it away, destroying it. We know the murderer is acting out on Satan’s behave. But, we must not be partners with Satan in destroying lives.

— D. Walker
4:23 pm July 3rd, 2008

In my opinion capitol punishment puts all of us at a lower level. I don’t think our court system is as good as many of us would like to think. I therefore say NO to capitol punishment.

— Robert Wellen
9:49 pm July 6th, 2008

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