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07.22.2008 7:12 pm

How can McCaskill best help Obama?

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill, (D-Mo) has been very active lately in her support of the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, Sen. Barack Obama, (D-Ill.).

The Missouri Democrat has readily appeared on nationwide television and radio broadcasts, touting the benefits and reasons why Obama should be the nation’s next president.

According to a story in Wednesday’s Post-Dispatch, her increasing prominence as one of a handful of top surrogates in Obama’s presidential bid is increasingly being asked to appear on TV and campaign-trail appearances, as well as behind-the-scenes advice.

“She’s someone we have no hesitance in putting on TV or on the road because she understands and reflects the message of this campaign perfectly,” said David Axelrod, Obama’s chief campaign adviser. “She makes sense. She doesn’t sound like the typical Washington palaver.”

 “She was with him early. She reaches out to women, which he needs to do after defeating Hillary Clinton and she’s from a swing border state,” said Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia.

Peter Fenn, a Democratic strategist not affiliated with the Obama campaign, said McCaskill’s surprise endorsement last January helped cement her role in the operation.

All this has created new rumors about her prospects as a vice presidential candidate, and she’s repeatedly appeared on lists of possible choices.

Will Claire McCaskill be a plus or a minus for Obama’s campaign?

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Claire will be a plus as long as she stays as honest, and as good of a public servant as she can be. A welcome change from MO conservative, hypocritical corrupt politics would be nice. As well as a break from the lug nut dem style of vote mongering. Time to get back to doing what’s good for the people, and having a little less of what Shanahan et al was able to do this week.

Tell me again why MO gutted its whistleblower laws, and why a company conglomerate like Engineered Support could put a relative of a crook in place as the person who handles the whistleblowers at a defense contractor. And why the guy whose phone was the ethics hotline in HR would be allowed to fire whistleblowers without cause. Was a rigged game at ESSI/DRS with lots of other parts not yet mentioned.

Work on that kind of thing, would you Claire? Because there is just something not right about whistleblowers with good performance reviews losing their promised retirement monies and jobs while the criminals execs kept theirs and more.

— Slugger
11:36 pm July 22nd, 2008

You mean who can help Hussain Obama ? He needs a miracle to help him.

— momama
12:08 am July 23rd, 2008

She could take a crash course in economics.

— davel
12:49 am July 23rd, 2008

I think Claire is a definite plus for Barack. And she’s smart to get involved now, because doing so will earn her the enjoyment, the prestige and other perks associated with living in DC, working alongside the President Obama.

— Ryan On The Euphonium
8:21 am July 23rd, 2008

McCaskill and Obama are two of the most inexperienced in politics. They go together well. It’s a classic blind leading the blind. Obama has been making one mistake after the other with his flip flopping around on issues. Redneck America is not going to elect him no matter who is campaigning for him. His best bet for a running mate is an older polished male with a lot of experience that can add some dignity to his campaign. It’s almost as if they are trying to trick Americans by running a black man and a woman. I have daily exposure to several Afro Americans that are only voting for him because of his race. I’m sure there are uneducated women that would vote for him because of having a female running mate. It’s ashame that our next president and vice president may be put in office for what they are and not for how they stand on issues that could mold out country for the next several years.

— first tom
9:10 am July 23rd, 2008

Barrack will certainly end the Bush tax cuts.

Middle class people SHOULD pay more taxes.

They are the one who use public schools, mortgages, health care, and other public services. McCain is right the middle class is in a mental recession.

If you don’t like your financial situation, GET ANOTHER JOB!!!
We have so many jobs here in the U.S. we have to hire illegal help!

What do you people think this is, Canada?

In fact, Missouri is doing fine without Claire and Obama.

McCain/Huckabee 08!

— Mark Mattison
9:44 am July 23rd, 2008

Obama wants to end the Iraq war.

Do you think this is smart?

No, we’ve invested too much already. Finish the job even if it take 100 years like McCain said.

Democaracy in the middle east is worth $20 a gallon gas and more taxes.

I say we stay their permantly MAKE IRAQ the 51st STATE!!!!

— Bill K.
9:47 am July 23rd, 2008

McCaskill will not help Obama, the democrats have already written off 20% of the votes due to racists.

Lets face it, Americans would rather have 100 years of war and be POOR than have a black, Catholic man in the WHITEhouse.

After 4 years of MCCain Americans will be broke… we think things are bad now.

The current Republican regime could care less about Missouri and long as we keep sending our family to Iraq.

MCain will be in, with Rove, Cheney and crew STILL running the show.

— JVM
10:15 am July 23rd, 2008

I work with many brokers on wall street, we have millions of investment leaving this county on a daily basis. The GOP leadership is KILLING our economy.

NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WILL CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THE US.

With TWO WARS, the instability is causing investment to leave this county.

— Aaron
10:18 am July 23rd, 2008

Many fools want the experience of corrupt greedy oilmen to continue running this country by casting a vote for McCain who has been purchased by oil men. McCain is a bought man now in 2008. That’s the kind of experience only blind fools want.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hi3VvIeAUc

— D. Walker
10:25 am July 23rd, 2008

@ D. Walker

McCain has the experience Americans want.

Also McCain is not black.

— flutter
10:39 am July 23rd, 2008

@JD

Why copy paste all that? when you can just say…..

BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS BLACK.

— flutter
10:44 am July 23rd, 2008

flutter

I have no problem with having a black president. Condi Rice or Michele Steele are 2 that come to mind.

— JD
10:51 am July 23rd, 2008

Bill,

Missourians need to quit crying about Iraq.
These soldiers GET PAID. And they are VOLUNTEERS!!

At least Blackwater soldiers don’t cry about their job.

McCain 08!

— mesater
10:53 am July 23rd, 2008

Aaron, I guess the 50 billion InBev is dropping here doesn’t count, eh? You don’t sound like an investment guy to me, but even if you are you must not be very good. If the best opportunities to make money, given whatever risk factor your client is willing to assume, is overseas, isn’t it your responsibility to point that out? A global economy means global investments, but of course all your broker buddies on Wall Street must know that, right? If you had econ 101 you would know wars tend to be better for economies, not worse, since spending increases. You would also probably know that since the war is in Iraq and not America investors would not be scared of investing IN America because our country is (and has been) the most stable country on Earth. Property and individual rights are protected here better than anywhere else on Earth, two components vital for investor trust. But don’t take my word for it, I got that from Alan Greenspan’s latest book, and he was only Federal Reserve Bank Chairman for all those years. You guys might even have a few of the same Wall Street buddies…

Stop trying to be something you aren’t. If you don’t like the war or Republicans than say that, but don’t make up junk in an attempt to sound like you are an expert on something because you just might get squashed by real knowledge.

— Tim
11:03 am July 23rd, 2008

I wonder if McCaskill isn’t considering a run herself in 2012. She has more tangible experience than the three top Democratic nominees combined and has a generally positive perception even among non-Democrats. The thing I would be concerned about if I were her is not tying her boat to closely to Obama’s. I have a feeling he’s headed for a spectacular loss in November.

— Go_Fish
11:04 am July 23rd, 2008

If it was not for the fact of the seriousness and devastation this country is facing economically all because of Bush and his administrations policies. I would say give these blind people McCain.

This country is and has been run by oil businessmen Bush/Cheney. The world has become fed-up with these greedy blind men. Greed does make people stupid. And this is what we are all witnessing.

McCain will not be able to reestablish the necessary relationships that it would take to create the trust that will be needed to cause other countries to want to continue to work with America and slow down or cease taking out their country’s foreign exchange holding deposits out of the dollar and into the euro. Other countries are now looking at even the creation of a South American central bank designed to hold euros.

These foreign exchange deposits are being moved out of the U.S. at an unhealthy rate.

The sad fact is, I don’t think that most of our citizens will be able to sustain themselves with the faith that it would take to survive such hard times ahead if McCain is at the seat. Oil businessmen own McCain. These oilmen have been blinded with stupidity because of their greed. Our faith will be greatly tested regardless of who’s at the head seat, but if McCain is there, people have better get ready for the worst times that they could have ever dreamed of. We have all this to tend with on top of NAFTA, jobs leaving this country and companies closing down etc..

The sad truth is it will rain on the blind and corrupted in heart, just the same as the ones who can see and have hearts of good intentions. I have always believed because long ago it was placed into my heart that this election would be the last test offered to test Americans true heart condition.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59109

— D. Walker
11:05 am July 23rd, 2008

Hey Slugger,

What happened to that guy at Claire’s family nursing home business that reported all that stuff that was going on…oh, that’s right, he got canned. Your right Slugger, she definitely knows a lot about whistleblowers…

— Tim
11:05 am July 23rd, 2008

Mesater, it’s not just Blackwater soldiers that don’t cry about their jobs…no other soldiers in any of the Armed Forces cry about their jobs. In fact, we just had the highest number of re-enlisters for the month of July in history. Soldiers become soldiers to fight. It’s true that many of them wish otherwise once they go through the hell of war…but they understand why they are there and why they are sacrificing for this country and for the freedom for the oppressed.

— Logicprevails
11:10 am July 23rd, 2008

Tim,

Dont be absurd, INSTABILITY is the problem for investors. You are completely clueless.
Go back to community college and take econ 101.

With two simultaneous wars going on people with money are withdrawing from the U.S. at alarming rates. In 20 years, I’ve NEVER seen it this bad.

If you dont want to take my word for it, just search for “billionaires and u.S. divestment”

I process the paperwork for LARGE funds that come though our business. I have direct experience with the amount of investment leaving this country. No, I am NOT an investor but I do see the transactions.

Our dollar is in the tank and its not showing ANY signs of getting better.

If youve read Greenies book then you should know things are heading south…. FAST.

Oh and you should also know THE IRAQ WAR WAS ALL ABOUT OIL.

I dont have a problem with WAR for OIL.
I have a problem with Bush being a wuss about it and not telling the truth.

If he had not lied to everyone, I’d be fine with the situation.

— Aaron
11:25 am July 23rd, 2008

D Walker, aren’t you the person that claimed that the Saudis have a trillion dollars in demand deposit accounts here in America? Did you ever post a link to that? I Googled it but couldn’t find what you claimed…

As was said to Aaron needs to be said to D Walker. America is still the best place to invest in the world when comparing return verses risk. Property right, the rule of law, and individual rights are the same for all investors regardless of where they are from. No other country defends these rights so critical to investment as America does. To think that Obama is going to lower the price of gas simply because he is President completely ignores the basic facts of economics.

And don’t fret the weak dollar too much D, it has actually been a help to our manufacturing sector because it makes our exports cheaper in other countries.

— Tim
11:26 am July 23rd, 2008

Hey, “flutter”, your comments indicate that you are close-minded to entertaining the idea of a black president. You should realize that open mindedness is partly about realizing your own limitations as a human person, sensory limitations included. But sometimes our senses give us false information, and we learn that there is no knowledge that cannot be questioned or doubted. When we “stereotype”, we are acknowledging that life is complicated, and we want to see life in its most simple terms. It’s easier that way! Life is not black and while, flutter. It’s grey, and you’ll be less hostile and much happier when you understand that.

— Ryan On The Euphonium
11:27 am July 23rd, 2008

To answer Kurt’s question (sorry I went off topic again, it’s habit for me):

I don’t see what Claire would bring to Obama’s ticket except less baggage than Hillary. There are people out there with more experience than Claire. The only reason I could see her getting the nod is if he wants a white woman on the ticket who is NOT well known. A Feinstein or a Hillary is soo strong a personality with too much history to do Obama any good, so it that sense an unknown white woman to pander to the soccer moms makes sense.

— Tim
11:40 am July 23rd, 2008

Tim,

“wars tend to be better for economies”

Kind of like saying… wars create jobs as soldiers!

Dont look now, your ignorance is showing. That simple statement alone goes to show you are dumb as a brick.

Every war since the history of man has been lost for one reason alone….

NO MONEY, FINANCIAL RUIN.

When you can’t pay people to fight, the war is lost.

Get a clue and quit spewing your ignorant BS.

Do a search for “The broken window fallacy”
Go read a book, or a hundred.

No wonder our economy is tanking, people like you are the problem.

— Alice
11:45 am July 23rd, 2008

Alice,

Dont be so hard on Tim, sounds like he’s just a kid. He will learn.

I started laughing as well when he said war is good for the economy.

You are right about war, its a money game. And we are losing.

At a cost of $720 million PER DAY the American economy certainly cant last 100 years, even until 2020 as McCain now says.

How poor do Americans want to get over this war?

Do they want to be chasing rice trucks down the street for “Freedom for Iraqis?”

I dont think so.

— Aaron
11:57 am July 23rd, 2008

Ryan, well said.

Aaron, the dollar has been up the last week, particularly since the Fed hinted at raising interest rates next week. Does that count for “any sign of getting better”? If the Fed does raise rates the dollar will strengthen further. Also, the EU’s growth rate appears to be slipping based on Q2 data, which no doubt means the Euro will begin to come back down some against other currencies (including the dollar obviously). I guess your Wall Street buddies didn’t tell you about those signs, eh?

Aaron, I Googled what you said, nothing popped up. If you could post a link to a specific story I would be happy to read it.

If Iraq was strictly for the Oil, why would we take the 14th highest producer of oil? Kuwait is 11th and they are a lot smaller, and quite frankly they love us after we liberated them during Desert Storm. Why didn’t we just take Kuwait? Canada is 7th and we wouldn’t even need the navy to ship us there. Mexico is 5th, we could just drive there too. Why Iraq? Maybe it’s because the whole “Iraq was just for the oil” idea has been shot down time and time again on every corner of the internet and print media to the point that most people don’t bother trying to use it anymore…

— Tim
11:57 am July 23rd, 2008

Tim,

Aaron is talking about a basic economic principle.

The broken window theory is in EVERY SINGLE BOOK ON ECONOMICS, WRITTEN IN THE LAST 30 YEARS.

If you knew ANYTHING about economics you would know it like you know your name. You wouldn’t need to do a google search for it.

Economics for dummies:

http://www.amazon.com/Economics-One-Lesson-Shortest-Understand/dp/0517548232

— Alice
12:06 pm July 23rd, 2008

Tim,

You missed it. The reason Aaron claimed “Iraq was about oil” was you cited the latest book by Alan Greenspan, “The Age of Turbulence”. In that book, Greenspan states:

“I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil. “

— Did you read it?
12:07 pm July 23rd, 2008

Tim,

Please go to school. If you cant afford it.. head to your local library!

Schooling, is good for the mind, body and our nation.

— Aaron
12:12 pm July 23rd, 2008

No, I did catch (or at least I assume that I caught) where he was pulling that from, but the amount of written material to the contrary of that notion suggests that was not the case. Unfortunately Greenspan did not elaborate on that sentence in his book if I remember right…

— Tim
12:14 pm July 23rd, 2008

“Aaron, the dollar has been up the last week, particularly since the Fed hinted at raising interest rates next week. Does that count for “any sign of getting better”? If the Fed does raise rates the dollar will strengthen further. Also, the EU’s growth rate appears to be slipping based on Q2 data, which no doubt means the Euro will begin to come back down some against other currencies (including the dollar obviously). I guess your Wall Street buddies didn’t tell you about those signs, eh?”

LOLZ!!!!!!!

This guy is on crack.

Drawing parallels to currency strength and “Q2 data” is just plain retarded. I love the internet, if only for people like this. This guy made my day!

WTF?!?! Q2 data….. in government….

Sounds like this guys mom is his churchs accountant or something.

— Mark
12:19 pm July 23rd, 2008

Aaron, still waiting on that link for the story about billionaires and U.S. divestment. Maybe you can’t get on Google because D Walker is still searching for that link on the Saudi trillion dollar demand deposit account…

Mark, I assume you know that Q2 stands for the second quarter of the year. The economic data for that quarter in Europe shows a slowdown in economic growth, which usually leads to a weakening of the corresponding currency. There’s a couple hundred years of proof of the coorelation between GDP and currency, which you so eloquently refer to as “retarted”. Please post again so we can marvel at your debating genius…

Alice, depends on what economic family you come from. John Keynes theory argues that the “good” outweighs the “bad”. Maybe if something like the GDI existed during WWII we could have a better measure of it since using GDP may not be the most accurate way to go about it. But regardless, tell me how you think the world got out of the Great Depression?

But Aaron is not talking about broken windows anyway. He is not discussing the added or lost value to the investor account, he is talking about the MOVEMENT of value from one area to another (or in his case one country to another). This has nothing to do with the broken window theory…

— Tim
12:46 pm July 23rd, 2008

I’m really sick of white conservative males like Tim being dissmissive of women. So why are you posting here you cowardly twits, instead of serving like all those fine brave women are in Iraq and around the world so your sorry butts can spout ignorant Bush-Bot Bull (trademarked term) from an air conditioned armcahir? You are a disgrace to this fine country! Nut up…suit up and pay for your luxuries we fought for.

— HD Vet
1:18 pm July 23rd, 2008

Investors leaving the U.S. would be doing so because of value of the dollar I guess. Oil would play a big part in that since it is hurting our economy because it is so expensive. But the price of oil is driven by the tightness of the market and the growth of India and China economies, and maybe a little speculation too. That would not be related to the war in Iraq since they are ranked like 15 in production and most of their fields are online anyways. They are producing oil. The broken window idea does not seem to fit and the Iraq War is not causing investors to leave America. I think you guys know your econ but not how to apply it Alice and Aaron. Peace.

— Clyde the Glide
1:19 pm July 23rd, 2008

Tim,
Missed it again….
The broken window fallacy came up in response to your claim that War is good for the economy, not divestiture in the US – and it was brought up by Alice not Aaron. BTW, Citing Keynes to defend your belief that the destroyer of property should be considered an agent of good strikes me as strange also – most free market schools of economic thought strongly disagree with Keynes.

— Did you read it?
1:25 pm July 23rd, 2008

HD vet, what are you talking about?

If you refer to my comment about Claire, I’m just telling you why he might or might not pick her. If you think his consideratin of her has NOTHING to do with the fact that she is a white woman then you don’t know politicians. Everything a politican who is running for office does is calculated to get votes. To think otherwise is drinking too much (agent) orange koolaid…

My taxes are paying the salary of the volunteer army HD, so I’d say I am doing my part.

— Tim
1:25 pm July 23rd, 2008

LOL Did you read it?, my comment was ABOUT Aaron’s comments, not TO Aaron. Read it again and follow the sentences.

Where did I say that I was a Keynesian? All I said is that the final result of the broken window theory gives you different results based on where your economic principles come from. Your name is more fitting than you would have imagined, even if your writing sounds a lot like Alice under a different name…

So where does that leave us…a lot of unanswered questions by Alice, Aaron, and D Walker. Step up, kids…

— Tim
1:36 pm July 23rd, 2008

This seems to have become a boxing match between a few posters. Oil in America is a big part of this campaign. Neither Obama, McCaskill or McCain can do anything about it. How is it that Bush is responsible for the price of gas in this country when we have some of the lowest gas prices in the world shy of the middle east. You guy’s call him an oilman. You are nuts. He has stock in oil companies like thousands of other Americans. I agree the war is not helping and I’m a republican against the war. The price of oil is a world problem brought on by many. We don’t pay any more that the rest of the world. McCaskill won’t be able to do anything for Obama that he or McCain can’t do themselves which is nothing. The real question is can she pull votes for him because of her gender??????????

— first tom
2:19 pm July 23rd, 2008

If “Tim” on the internet says our economy is good, thats all I need hear!!!!!!!!!

bwhahahahahahahahahhahahaha

Tim, when you said “war is good for the economy” you just lost all credibility you had. I’m no economic brain, but even I know the facts.

WAR IS NOT GOOD FOR ANY ECONOMY.

— frommin
2:39 pm July 23rd, 2008
— Allen T
2:48 pm July 23rd, 2008

“wars tend to be better for economies” -Tim

This guy is either:

A. a troll
B. a complete moron

whoever this guy is voting for, i will certainly vote for the other candidate people like tim scare me. Who knew there were such idiots left in this world

no wonder people stopped replying to him LOL!

— Allen T
3:21 pm July 23rd, 2008

Good post first tom.

Still waiting on D Walker’s link to Saudi trillion dollar accounts, Alice to answer what ended the Great Depression, and Aaron to link us to the story about “billionaire U.S. divestment”.

Maybe we will see if frommin can post something on how war is not good for the economy…

— Tim
3:23 pm July 23rd, 2008

Quick note to FROMMIN AND OTHERS who took issue with TIM for his comment about war being good for the economy. The good Jusuits taught us in high school that the US entry into WWII helped to get the nation’s economy back on its feet.Although just 10 years before jobs were very difficult to come by, with WWII a job for nearly everyone who wanted one was available. With the creation of 17 million new jobs during the war, workers were afforded the opportunity to pay off old debts, as well as to begin saving some of their earnings.

Maybe this historical reference was the basis for Tim’s comment, plus the obvious limited trickle-down effect that even the current war(s) have on the economy.

— Ryan On The Euphonium
3:24 pm July 23rd, 2008

“what ended the Great Depression”

here, i’ll do it for her…

THE NEW DEAL.

— Allen T
3:34 pm July 23rd, 2008

“The good Jusuits taught us in high school that the US entry into WWII helped to get the nation’s economy back on its feet.”

hahahah

nice!

Thats just a kind way of saying Tim never made it past high school! :)

— davel
3:45 pm July 23rd, 2008

The New Deal ended the Great Depression?
Bwahahahahahahaha!!

You guys gave Tim trouble for his assertion that War benefitted the economy and Alice pointed to the Broken Window Fallacy. The New Deal is a shining example of the BWF.

You wanna know what ended the Great Depression? Or any recession we’ve had since then? Listen up. The American spirit and the business cycle. Good night everyone.

— Amazedbythelunacy
3:59 pm July 23rd, 2008

Careful there Allen T, I’m sure Alice wouldn’t want you speaking for her since you are incorrect. In fact, if anything is related to the “broken window” theory it is government public works programs. WWII pulled the world out of the Great Depression. No one is claiming that was the best way to do it of course, but the results speak for themselves none the less.

Does three out of four posts in a blog belonging to one person constiture them being a troll? Just curious on the definition…

davel, I don’t think that was Ryan’s point. If it was I’m sure he will let you know.

— Tim
4:05 pm July 23rd, 2008

“You wanna know what ended the Great Depression? Or any recession we’ve had since then? Listen up. The American spirit and the business cycle. Good night everyone.”

Anyone who attributes the end of the depression to The American spirit” should be put in a asylum.

“The American spirit” is total BS. Like somehow “spirit” is going to solve problems.

Thats just plain stupid. i bet you are one of these nutjobs that believes in the “invisible man in the sky” as well.

Money and a willing party to inject it into the economy solved the great depression.

Politics hasn’t changed, we inject borrowed money into the economy to this day.

The great depression was solved by assloads of money.

Money solves EVERY problem from cancer and aids to depression and war.

— Mark Mattison
4:13 pm July 23rd, 2008

Dave:

My intent was not to suggest that Tim did or did not graduate high school. And I really don’t follow the logic of your comment. Would you please explain? In my business, I talk straightforwardly with my patients, and I’m often lost when it comes to communicating or even interpreting subtleties and innuendos. (I’m a Lucille Ball vs. a Woody Allen fan.)

— Ryan On The Euphonium
4:16 pm July 23rd, 2008

Breaking News

( Chicago ) Insiders at the Obama campaign staffers say that he has decided on Claire McCaskill “because she thinks along the same lines and can help articulate his issues”. The announcement will come by the end of July……

http://www.goclairevp.4t.com/

— Steven Reed
4:18 pm July 23rd, 2008

Oh please choose McCaskill. Please. Please. Please.

— Amazedbythelunacy
4:25 pm July 23rd, 2008

Glad you are excited too!

— Steven Reed
4:33 pm July 23rd, 2008

Breaking News

( Chicago ) Insiders at the Obama campaign say that he has decided on Claire McCaskill “because she thinks along the same lines and can help articulate his issues”. The announcement will come by the end of July……

http://www.goclairevp.4t.com/

— Steven Reed
4:45 pm July 23rd, 2008

Breaking News

( Chicago ) Insiders say midwest morons will vote McCain because they are scared of teh ‘terrists and black men (even half black men are scary enough)!

Why do Midwesterners like McCain?

1. His name starts with the same letters as that fancy sit down cafe’ with the yellow “M”.

2. Black men should be playing football, not running a country

3. They think their paltry family income of $120,000 makes them wealthy and “upper class”.

4. Their $299 monthly payments on their Durango are “worth the price of gas”.

5. Obama is considered “elite” because he can speak well.

6. Two words: FLAG PIN

7. McCain is easy to spell.

8. Jesus tells them to vote for anyway.

9. Like McCain, they still think Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia still exist!

10. They think Obama is liberal.

I say continue the war, its only poor people that join the military anyway, and MO is full of them! By 2012, we should have less voters in MO!

Missouri is just Arkansas with shoes.

I landed on this page from another site, and I’m blown away by the amount of stupidity.

After reading these posts from Midwesterners, its easy to see they love their ignorance and their poverty.

— LOL...MO
4:53 pm July 23rd, 2008

@ LOLMO

You are very crude, but right.

The sad part is most people in the Midwest will benefit from Obama as president.

People on the coasts have more income potential and will be fine if this recession lasts. We are hit harder if only because we need to drive further to work and play. And you folks have public transit!

Its the people in the Midwest/south that will hurt from the continuance of the BUSH/McCain/Republican administration.

I HOPE WE SURPRISE THE WORLD COME NOV!!!!

— Mike T
5:41 pm July 23rd, 2008

Tim,

What are you talking about. Where have you requested of be to provide you with any information. A while back I provided you this information concerning Saudi’s 2 trillion dollar investment in Ameriica’s banks and stock market.

I will give you the advice everyone else here is giving you. Go do your research.

— D. Walker
6:56 pm July 23rd, 2008

Tim,

Here’s the information again (An Article from “The Atlantic”.

See page 9, paragraph 4:

Just to make sure that no one upsets the workings of this system, perhaps by meddling in internal Saudi affairs, Saudi Arabia now keeps possibly as much as a trillion dollars on deposit in U.S. banks—an agreement worked out in the early eighties by the Reagan Administration, in an effort to get the Saudis to offset U.S. government budget deficits. The Saudis hold another trillion dollars or so in the U.S. stock market. This gives them a remarkable degree of leverage in Washington. If they were suddenly to withdraw all their holdings in this country, the effect, though perhaps not as catastrophic as having a major source of oil shut down, would still be devastating.

http://www.partymode.org/files/1074.pdf

— D. Walker
7:18 pm July 23rd, 2008

Tim,

Same article from the actual site of “The Atlantic”

See: Paragragh 9

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200305/baer/3

— D. Walker
7:27 pm July 23rd, 2008

Matt, Ryan was far more correct than you will ever know.

Mike T, we have to commute farther here than on the coasts? The humor in that is almost undescribable. You ever been in rush hour in Boston or Los Angeles? Try finding a place to park in SF that doesn’t cost you $400 a month. Try getting anywhere in Miami at any time of the day or night. All the cities I have been to on the coasts have HUGE communte times, and that is WITH people using mass transit. I hope they do have more income potential on the costs because it can cost twice as much for the “privilege” of living out there. How, exactly, would the Midwest benefit from Obama in the White House? Would you give us a list of reasons why you believe this to be true?

LOL..MO, there is nothing better than a gutless post from someone who doesn’t list where they are from. Nicely done, you should swell with pride the next time you look in the mirror.

D, thanks for posting the link. Like I said, I tried to find what you were talking about and came up empty. Try not to get so bent out of shape next time. Finding that one article from several years ago is a needle in the haystack kind of thing, ya know?

Meanwhile, Alice and Aaron have disappeared into the sunset after making bogus claims and failing to back up their comments with reasonable thoughts or statistical data. Not unusual for this blog unfortuantely…

— Tim
7:49 pm July 23rd, 2008

Money doesn’t make up for not having courage Mr Mini Swag Bag Tim…you let women fight your wars for you, then you come on here wasting time posting twenty posts of BS. Ignorance becomes you! And I am betting you avoid taxes just like most war monger fools do. And don’t pay your child support either. What an arrogant idiot you are. Coward.

— Joe McEvoy
9:20 pm July 23rd, 2008

So how DO you think they would handle Claire’s little nursing home skeleton in her closet? I had almost forgotten about that until a poster kindly reminded us about it. See why they want you to drink AB stuff…so you will lose your memory of all the shady things they do.

— Slugger
9:22 pm July 23rd, 2008

That site you mentioned about VP Claire is bouncing off of an australian server and free domains…I doubt it is much more than wishful thinking. It is just a subdomain with lots of free pissy ads. Like Claire, do ya Steve? Me too, a little…but not if she believes in firing whistleblowers.

— Slugger
9:37 pm July 23rd, 2008

McCain 08!!!

— momama
10:32 pm July 23rd, 2008

D.Walker: You need to settle down.How is your blood pressure?I am a doctor and wonder why your so full of hate.Get help!

— momama
10:34 pm July 23rd, 2008

Thanks Joe for that inane rant full of assumptions and pouting. You got so emotional you forgot to call yourself HD Vet this time around. How many names do you need to use anyway? You don’t need to join the army to be a patriot or to exercise your right to freedom of speech. I hope you don’t end up popping a vein somewhere while throwing these hissy fits. Please make sure to see a physician on a regular basis and get regular checkups.

— Tim
9:33 am July 24th, 2008

Hey Tim…I am sure that there is more than one person who is tired of your self righteousness and bull crap throwing on this blog. Your comment about paying money instead of fighting the war of those you obviously have a crush on in DC was sickening. You showed your lack of character right there. Typical republican. Now all there is left to do is collect social security and medicare while dissing dem programs. Too bad you can’t collect social security, medicare, a sweet military benefit or two AND high congressional pay and bennies like Johnny McCain. And he doesn’t even need that since he can just do a little good OLD boy in and out on that wealthy blond automaton he has. She won’t trust him with all of it because she knows him too well, but she would trick him out a little I am sure. Go home Timmie…time for bed! Or better yet…to the sands…

About Claire? Looks like she has problems in the past, and may do the same in the future. Just like all the boys…so put her in. They luv blonds.

— Pia
10:02 am July 24th, 2008

Pia aka Slugger 2.0, if you so worried about the armed forces than you sign up for them. You seem to forget that it is a volunteer army, and no one has to serve in the military if they don’t want to. But someone does have to foot the bill for it, and as I said earlier I am proud to do my part by being a productive tax paying citizen of this country. Your diatribe shows how little you appreciate everything else that has to happen for the U.S. Armed Forces to operate effectively. From the tax paying guy who writes programs for figher planes at Boeing to the tax paying farmer who grows food for their MREs to the tax paying guy digging up iron ore to make steel for tanks, it takes a whole country to support such a high-tech and formidable force as America’s fighting men and women. But in usual liberal short sightedness you can’t suppress your raging emotions enough to step back and see the forest for the trees. You don’t have to pick up a weapon to help defend the nation, a concept that flew over your head like a squadron of F-16s…

— Tim
11:38 am July 24th, 2008

Tim,

I’m sorry for getting frustrated, I had not seen that you had requested this information from me again.

Here’s another piece that you will find very interesting. Concerning the Cheney/Bush and Clinton connection concerning Enron and some other very corrupt matters that will explain why we find ourselves where we are at today as a country.

http://www.john-loftus.com/enron3.asp

— D. Walker
2:41 am July 26th, 2008

Momoma,

There are behaviors that I do HATE very much, but I have it under control. I have not killed anybody. My blood pressure is on the very low end always, none of it is anything to worry your liitle head about. But thanks anyway.

— D. Walker
2:45 am July 26th, 2008

JWM said in part: “…Lets face it, Americans would rather have 100 years of war and be POOR than have a black, Catholic man in the WHITEhouse. …”

Did I miss something? Do we have another candidate who is worthy? Is there hope? Do we have a black, Catholic man running?

Darn, I guess that was just a general comment. I was hopeful that we might actually have a decent candidate to choose. Instead, we are being forced to try to figure out which is the lesser of two evils, which is no way to choose the President of the United States.

— SSK
11:36 am July 27th, 2008

LOL I just got back to check on this before I lounged with the political hoi pa-loy this weekend so I can have a frame of reference as to what the peoples are thinking about this little toss up. Tim, you seem to have a problem when more than one person disagrees with you. Does it make you feel better to believe we all are one? Outrageous fantasies, hypocrisy and sins of omission…republican conservatives just about have it all, don’t they? Still cracking up at your paranoia. Maybe I am Rob Smyth and JohnH’s ex wife and mistress too.

— Slugger
10:05 pm August 1st, 2008