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08.07.2008 6:57 am

What would you do about public transportation security?

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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Our story today talks about violent attacks that have occurred around several MetroLink stations caused by roving bands of teens and young adults.

There have been at least three attacks — including an assault by a group of at least 20 on a family near the Forest Park MetroLink station.

And later in the story…

Metro officials said they believe the attacks at the Forest Park and Delmar stations were related, but St. Louis police said they had not connected them. In the Delmar incident, two or three youths were attacked by a large group on the westbound platform at 11:36 p.m. Security tapes show a large group of youths surrounding the victims as they sat on a bench.

One week later, on Saturday night, an employee of the Pi pizza parlor at 6144 Delmar Boulevard was assaulted and robbed of his cell phone at a parking lot across the street near the Pageant theater, police said. Later, a group of youths attacked a restaurant employee near the outdoor dining area.

Police are stepping up security. What would you do about it? Few enough people can use Metro. Does this affect how much use it will get? Would you be dissuaded from using public transportation because of reports like this?

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i think docking stations could be used as police substations with one or two alternating officers that could be onboard and on the platform simultaneously. honestly, i never understood why they didn’t do this to begin with. i guess our tax dollars don’t cover crime prevention.

— sunnyj
3:08 pm August 7th, 2008

Having police arrest fare jumpers is a terrible idea. Why tie up the limited police resources we already have for something as insignificant as jumping a $2 fare?

We need a real police prescence. Not these rent-a-cops that look bored senseless. These police need to be on the trains as well, I’d say one for every train. Sitting on the platforms isn’t gonna help the woman getting mugged on the train.

— JimBob
3:16 pm August 7th, 2008

They get too crowded you can’t move how can an officer help if he can’t get to you they need to limit the amount of people per car its dangerous, you could be stabed and never no who stabed you its just crazy!

— Getta
3:17 pm August 7th, 2008

The police would be there as a deterrant, not just in the capacity as a first responder. If police were much more visible, even in rush hour, I’d wager it would help.

— JimBob
4:07 pm August 7th, 2008

These violent groups have brought attention to themselves and the police are doing the right thing by stepping up their efforts. Metro isn’t the only activity where a person is at risk of a crime. In place of Metro, you could substitute, driving or walking or traveling abroad. I remember there were similar problems at the Galleria a while back. Increased security appears to have improved that situation. I do my best be cautious and watchful in whatever I do, but if I were to avoid some activities because of incidents like this, the perps would win. I’ll go about my business and hope for the best.

— jfmoyn
4:10 pm August 7th, 2008

Well, I would fire every last one of the Metrolink security baffoons and hire real police. The Metrolink “Security” first priority is to do nothing more than write tickets to people who don’t have a ticket. Regardless of whether their stupid 4th grade educated selves see that rider EVERY SINGLE DAY and they show their monthly pass EVERY SINGLE DAY. They’re useless in preventing crime.

On one ride, on the way home from a ball game, some WASTED drugged out chick was sitting behind me and started sticking her hands in my jacket pocket. When I caught her, she was mumbling “dude, you got a cigarette”. I moved seats, she passed out. When we got to the end of the line, I found the fat old “security guard” and told him about her. She was still sitting on the train, half passed out, unaware that it wasn’t going anywhere. The fat lazy ticket writer pulls out his cell phone and says to me “Do you need to call the police?”??!!?!?!? NO YOU LAZY WASTE OF SKIN! YOU NEED TO DO YOUR JOB!

— b
4:32 pm August 7th, 2008

if you think the post dispatch is going to put stories like this on the front page .. you are sadly mistaken… they only know how to print fluff… is it the worst run newspaper in the country.. the editors should be ashamed of themselves for the type of paper they have been producing.. they should all be fired, and replaced ….especially Pam Maples for allowing the crude they have passed off as news to be printed…

on the story… these thugs should be arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law… they are nothing more then terrorists preying on innocent people… and charge their parents as well for not instilling common decency into them

— pbr
5:26 pm August 7th, 2008

You do make a good point Tim if they are WELL trained. That includes mindset and street savvy. Few have all that. My stepdad was in federal law enforcement for a while right after prohibition ended and he helped police ESTL back when all the bootlegging gangs were white. He taught me a lot. Now these folks with their guns would have to understand you can’t flash a gun at a big group without expecting them to rush and shoot or overpower you. You’ll only get a shot or two off, and they know how to duck and come at you quicker than you can imagine, even if shot. I was taught never to show a weapon unless you intend to use it. The “good guy” gun toters better be prepared for a lot.

My dad got a gun that the old Buster Wortman gang got confiscated (they gave officers those guns then instead of melting them down…a good trophy that miffed the locked up gangsters to no end)and they had bent the site so someone picking it up if they got it taken wouldn’t be able to shoot straight. That’s how far they prepare ahead.

They’ll also need to be trained in the proper grain and load of ammunition since most feel bigger is better. You do not want bullets going through people, innocents and walls. Just some of the things to think about before we go all John Wayne on professional criminals. I think my snip snip idea should be the first to be added to the crime fighting mix.

— Slugger
5:32 pm August 7th, 2008

Well, a few sayings come to mind……….
“When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.”
“Why carry a gun? Because a whole cop would be too heavy.”
BiState, or Metro….whatever, has always been the same. Get out of the way of the buses on the road. Their “security” folks leaves me feeling very insecure.
And on the train……..I am not allowed to use my CCW permit, but I hear the music and see the eating of food, plus the foul talk.
Short of having a police officer on EACH train, how can anyone feel relatively safe?
BiState won’t get my vote to expand until they take down their sign with the slash through the pistol.
All the anti-gunners……you won’t see my gun, you won’t even notice me as I mind my own business, as long as the punks leave me and my family alone.
Don’t condemn me because I make an attempt to protect myself.

— Tony G
6:45 pm August 7th, 2008

I propose a private business venture for a bus line. Lets call it “St. Louis Lost Civilization Tours and Transport” (SLLCT&T) The business plan would be for two areas of service. First it could offer armed convoy mass public transit to and from events in the “green zones” (the downtown/stadium/dome/fox/powell areas) which are usually patroled by real police. The second area of service would be to offer armed convoy “Lost Civilization Tours” of St. Louis, highlighting it’s significant architecture, it’s history and it’s downfall during the last 44 years.

— mike
8:10 pm August 7th, 2008

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