Palin did better than a lot of folks expected, truly.

But as a female resident of a small town–like her–and part of a family with financial concerns talked about at the kitchen table–like her–I was insulted by her overly folksy “hey, I’m just like your neighbor driving my SUV to the hockey rink.” She did not answer the questions posed to her, she just changed the subject to make it what she wanted to be. As an ordinary person, she did not connect with me.

As for Biden, he may have been too restrained. I greatly admire his comments about questioning judgment, not motives. And I truly felt that he was smart and detailed in his answers. But at times,
I feel he was a bit too cautious.

John McCain is a 72 year old man who has had the deadliest form of skin cancer four times. That scares holy he&% out of me.

Palin constantly repeated slogans, while Biden went into concrete ideas. It was eerie to see her actually answer specific questions with slogans on unrelated topics – I guess she hadn’t been coached on those topics. I’m sure she rallied the true believers with her constant harping on campaign slogans, but if you were undecided, she gave almost no information on what she and McCain would actually do. Biden on the other hand really came out with some serious proposals. Yes, the true Blue were probably invigorated, but more importantly, there was plenty there to help sway the critical undecided voter.

An excellent job by Biden, a missed opportunity by Palin.

Joe Biden clearly won this debate
by providing many answers with substance and depth
Sara Palin was a distant runner up
and the time limits allowed her to exceed expectations

It built slowly, ever so slowly
I didn’t note the exact time, but there was a tipping point
The last 30 minutes were excruciating
Shallow talk, double talk, maverick talk, circular talk, folksy talk
Excruciating

His judgement was that she has credentials to be #2

The issue is John McCain’s flawed judgement
He is willing to put the safety of our country at high risk with her at #2

One heartbeat away
on day#1

His judgement was that she should be one heartbeat away from having authority to
o run our country in a crisis
o give a state of the union address
o sign or veto legislation
o make decisions on complex problems
o nominate judges to our Supreme Court
o negotiate with foreign leaders
o be commander in chief
o press the big red button

His judgement was that she has credentials to be #2
A slap in our face

Slap him back on 4 Nov

Wow, what a complete “donkey kicking” by Palin. I can not remember a more lop sided debate win that I have ever seen in my 43 years.
Biden looked like an old insider. Palin, is one of us, I felt I got to know her and I really liked her, and I feel she will fight for me and us.
With the record that McCain has as the Maverick that does what is best for me regardless of the issue, and Palin’s “donkey kicking” tonight of Biden………………………………………….I’m voting for McCain & Palin.
Signing off & Voting…………….

I also love the MSM down dressing Palin connected with the full country on, very nice………………….

Palin’s family makes over $250,000.00 a year, she wears $3,000.00 suits, $600 glasses and has had five weeks to prpare, AND still didn’t come through for the lies of the GOP!

Palin’s not like us,

http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/09/17/john-mccain-and-sarah-palin-ongoing-campaign-of-lies/

Early results on the factual statement do not look good for Biden. Biden seems to have had a great deal of very clear “false” statements within the debate from the early fact checking, Palin not so………………………….. “donkey kicking occurred”…………………………as did lying……………….

Biden simply could not have done any better at this debate. Palin did about as well as she was capable of, but that just isn’t saying much. Biden was the clear winner, and he nailed her on every false thing she said. What an idiot she was to criticize Obama’s voting record in cases where McCain voted the same way. Is she that coached on the talking points that she doesn’t even bother to look at their voting records in order to make an informed statement? She didn’t do as poorly as I had expected, but nonetheless, she is unqualified, and the thought of having her in charge of the country is simply terrifying. I am glad that many conservatives are stepping up for the good of the country and saying that she has no business as VP. Thank you.

Now the true station FOX NEWS had Palin winning at 86%.You watch no other station will say that she won. Democrats will lie again and say not true…liar biden won.

Steve - What fact checking site are you using? Because the two posts I read on CNN’s fact checking site actually state that Palin’s comments were misleading. She cut taxes in Alaska, but she also raised some. And Obama wasn’t against funding for troops. He didn’t support the plan because it didn’t ensure an end to the war. He actually supported a different version of the troop-funding plan, one that McCain was against.

Palin spun the facts.

Palin was absolutely cringeworthy; almost as bad as the commentators after the debate who agreed that she failed to answer questions put to her, splattered generalizations and memorized talking points almost at random, but, gee, wasn’t it splendid that she didn’t come off just like Tina Fey? That must mean that she won! As for the “folksy” colloquialisms and the cute little winks, couldn’t she please give it a rest already?

And, by the way, I know that Biden had to avoid condescending to her, but somebody should tell her the head of the armed forces in Afghanistan is named McKiernan, not McClellan–and Cheney’s claim of legislative vs. executive status has nothing to do with her executive experience in Alaska.

Give me a break…you GOP supporters, did you see the Couric interview? I actually felt sorry for her. She can’t even name a Newspaper she reads off the cuff. Biden may have been dry but at least he actually stated policies instead of just spouting off index cards. Does she have an original thought? Or will she “send ‘em later, folks.” Palin did better than I thought, I will give her that. But because she didn’t totally ***k up, her supporters think she won the debate, yah no trainwreck so she is obviously a winner? WTF? What about the issues? Her actual own ideas?

Biden is the winner…..and it wasn’t even close. I guess that makes Sarah 1st runner up (again)

Obama/Biden ‘08

I fully expected the next words from sarah’s mouth were gonna be “Palin wanna cracker ” she reminded me of a parrot,after the election fully expect her to dissapear as suddenly as she came.

This sounds brutal but she is simply just not an intelligent person. At this point I can’t take anything she says seriously. McCain would have been WAY more potent with Tom Ridge or even Joe Liebermann, but he rolled the dice with a gimmick pick who is looking very foolish these days. I truly feel sorry for her in being thrown into a position that she has no business being in. For me tonight was the visible separation where the race really starts to separate in Obama’s favor. Its all but over now people.

Gee, thanks Tim Hogan, we didn’t know you didn’t like Palin or Republicans until now.

So what if she wears $3,000 suits and her family is comfortable???
Why are you so jealous???

And Watcher, while you are criticizing Palin for her answers, how about Biden’s answer to “how would your Presidency be different?” He said it would be the same as Obama’s.

He didn’t answer the question.

Nevertheless, both presented their side well.

Fact is, Palin kept McCain in the race. It’s now up to him.

If I hear another Republican say nucular I’m going to scream. I swear they do it on purpose. They are simply trying to get the vote of the undereducated and ignorant in the country. Sarah even struggled to say it that way a couple of times. she kind of flipped and flopped. sometimes sounding like nuclear and most times sounding like nucular. It has become a republican code word almost. It’s embarrassing watching supposedly educated people screwing up such an important word.

THE REAL QUESTION: PAST PERFORMANCE IS A PREDICTOR OF FUTURE PERFORMANCE. We can clearly see what we will get by looking at each candidates past. Voters will vote on their hot button. For some it is a warm and fuzzy fealing, others it is a single issue at the cost of all others. The informed will make a decision based on many issues and past performance.

I was amazed that Palin did as well as she did. She was obviously well-rehearsed. But her answers didn’t necessarily reflect the question asked. And when–early on–she brazenly told the moderator that she wouldn’t directly answer every question asked, I thought she was either extremely arrogant or pre-emptively covering her posterior. Either way, not good. I am also annoyed by her “warm folksy” approach. Some people carry that approach off very well. But it doesn’t work for someone who basically comes across being as cold and calculating as a cobra.

Biden avoided his main pitfall, overrun of the mouth. By keeping his answers short and to the point, he scored big time. He definitely came across as well-informed and experienced. I give the debate “win” to Biden.

I agree that her folksy attitude was insulting. My good friends are hockey moms, but they’re not qualified to be president either.

If pandering, style and overused catchphrases are what a debate is judged on then Palin will be the greatest Republican Vice-President since Quayle.

Biden was factual and professional. Palin was, once again, focusing on her personal life trying to tie in into the election. Circuses and cotton candy do not win Presidential Elections.

This is the one aspect of the debate Palin won hands-down. Many people just comment that she just repeated slogans; actually, she implemented an effective debate strategy - repetition of key campaign points. Palin made it much easier for a viewer to come away with a clear focus of the main ideas of the McCain/Palin ticket.

On the opposite side, however, Biden’s performance leaves a viewer coming away with his criticism of McCain’s plans - with very little idea of what Obama’s key campaign points are. Biden attempted to answer all of the questions first by indicating what is wrong with McCain’s plans, and then presumably intended to address his ticket’s key points. While this may be a good debate strategy for some other politicians, the Obama/Biden camp should have realized that Biden’s track record of “long-windedness” and getting tied up in his responses would not provide him enough time to implement this tactic. He should have stuck to talking up his ticket rather than just arguing about how bad the opposite one is.

— Scott_Simon
“And Watcher, while you are criticizing Palin for her answers, how about Biden’s answer to “how would your Presidency be different?” He said it would be the same as Obama’s.”

I do not understand the logic of your criticism
o My memory is that the question involved how their presidency would be different if they had to take over for their #1
o Each gave a perfectly understandable, logical and defendable answer - they would continue with their #1’s plan
o Continuing the plan of their #1 is really just executing the desire of the American voters who voted for their plan by electing them.

Biden did well. Palin avoided answering questions she didn’t want to answer. I wish the moderator had included more questions on the environment such as about animal welfare and human population growth. Of course, Palin would have addressed something different anyway

@jen
You have to remember that the primary purpose of the VP debate is to create a forum for the VP candidate to attack the positions of the other Presidential candidate. They are not supposed to be there to promote their own platform. Palin obviously feels that ignoring political traditions is her best way to position herself as a maverick and outsider, but basically you had Biden following tradition and agreed upon rules; hence why he focused on McCain’s platform and not Obama’s. Meanwhile, Palin launched off in a strongly rule-breaking debate strategy. It hit well with her base, but seems to have really bombed with undecideds who probably anticipated the traditional form.

Biden has been in Congress for 30 years so I expected him to be very adroit in his debate, which he was. He was excellent in his facts, although I understand he was misleading, if not false, in his facts a number of times (McCain’s voting record for instance). He did not talk down to Palin and I thought he was professional.

Palin has been at this for 5-6 weeks now. Prior to that she was a governor and mayor. I didn’t expect her to be as knowledgeable as Biden and certainly didn’t think that she could hold her own in a debate with this senior member of Congress, yet I think she did an admirable job. Sure there were talking points and that she was “coached”..but if you really think that Biden wasn’t coached nor used democratic talking points, then you haven’t followed debates and are uneducated in the typical debate process.

Palin came across as folksy and down-to-earth. If you want a Washington insider who will continue to do the same things over and over again, voting along party lines and getting us no where, then Biden is your man. If you want someone who is more in touch with your own life and hasn’t been jaded by Washington politics, then Palin is your woman.

Well, as a registered democratic voter. I STILL have not made up my mind on this election. I am waiting to hear a realist plan, or goal that is going to get our country rolling again. There is very little substance with these parties. I am very disappointed with this election, and the fiascle it has turned into. Waiting on the presidential debates. Not much time left to make a decision on this one. “STILL fencing” I am concerned about our country, and it’s national security, and financial economic future not a show that I can catch on SNL, or Comedy Central.

I watched the VP debate last night. If our country is stupid enough to elect a man who has chosen Sarah Palin as his VP, then God help us all. She may be the most under-qualified vice presidential choice in our nation’s history. She did not provide a straight answer to questions, because she did not have the answers. She tried to be cutesy and folksy to make up for her lack of knowledge and substance. Impressionable people will fall for her act and vote for McCain, despite his obvious lack of judgement in choosing her for a running mate, and his questionable policy plans such as the “privatization of health care”. Intelligent people will vote for Obama because they understand that McCain’s/Bush policy’s are more of the same, and we cannot continue on the same economic disaster ride that we have been on the last eight years. Intelligent people see through Palin and are smart enough to realize that she does not have the experience or knowledge to lead our country if called upon. Joe Biden, does and that was obvious last night.

I was disappointed that this was such a scripted debate. Both candidates knew the questions in advance and their responses were curtailed by the time limits.

That said, I am worried that Gov. Palin would seek to expand the powers of the Vice President. Her support for Dick Cheney horrified me. I did not find her style and constant winking cute, either. Too reminiscent of Bush’s folksy ways. I want change and reform, but I want competence too.

Biden seemed poised, calm and knowledgeable across a range of issues. I’m more comfortable with the Obama ticket now than I was before this debate.

I was disappointed that Gov. Palin was able to exit the stage under her own power. I was also dismayed by the lack of follow-up questions by the moderator, when the Governor ignored the question, changed the subject, and returned to her indoctrinated talking points. This clearly shows bias on the part of the moderator. Just another case of the gals sticking together! (Umm… I’m joking.)

Did anyone else regard with alarm the Governor’s proposal to increase the powers of the Vice President, enabling her to encroach upon the legislative branch, becoming a de facto 101st senator? Constitution? We don’t need no steenking Constitution!

Quote: Tim Hogan “Palin’s not like us,”

I’m afraid I have to agree with you Timmy, no, Thank God,

she’s not like you snobby left wing liberals.

She’s is a real woman that represents the values of most Americans.

She’d probably do more to clean up Washington in 1 month,

than ole JoJoB has done in 36 years.

Personally, I feel Sarah did fine, and read the Honolulu Advertisers pull of those watched. Hawaii has not sent a Republican to federal office for 25 years. Their poll showed Sarah won the debate by 82 percent to 9% and the others thought it was even.

She did well in Southern Illinois, great in Evansville, and Columbus. Go look for yourselves. Oh she great in Utah. Does that bode well for her. Of course not, The Liberal media has decided Hussein is some kind of God. So be it. Let him be worshiped for the the next year or two and see people begging on the street. He was a street organizer in Chicago. Maybe he can organize them to get food stamps? Or is that above his pay scale?

Palin will go back to Alaska and be the Governor of the wealthiest State in the country. And if Alaska was a separate country they would be the 4th wealthiest country in the World.

Palin will be the President of the United States 4 years down the road.
if she chooses to be.

Palin’s comments about the role and authority of the vice president - the Cheney Doctrine - were absolutely terrifying.

Wow! Did you left wing whackos actually watch the debate or did you craft your posts before it happened and simply post it after the fact? Both candidates did well.

Even split on the outcome

I made up my mind some time ago that I am voting Dem, so the debate was wonkish entertainment for me. On the other hand my wife, who really wanted to vote for Hillary, came into the debate undecided and wanted to take a good look at Palin. Towards the end of the debate my wife was upset that Palin was avoiding the questions asked. When the debate was over my wife said when Hillary talks she is concise, informed and to the point, but when Palin talks it reminded her of a female George W. Bush. She said that if Obama would have chosen Hillary as his VP, that would have been a slam-dunk ticket for her, but there was no way in hell she could now vote for McCain because of Palin. It looks like the hockey mom lost the vote of my wife the football mom.

— johnh
“Palin will go back to Alaska and be the Governor of the wealthiest State in the country. And if Alaska was a separate country they would be the 4th wealthiest country in the World.

Finally, honest words
You know that’s “It’s Over”

“Palin will be the President of the United States 4 years down the road.
if she chooses to be.’

I thought you’d quit smoking that stuff?

This is very interesting. I’m actually taking a marketing class and we recently discussed how in politics, the majority of people will see things dramatically in the favor of thier “side” and not actually look at the facts. Seems pretty accurate, given the polar opposite interpretations offered so far! As someone who despises all politicians in general, because their job is to stay employed-not run the country-I find Sarah Palin’s “newness” to Politics a good thing. Anyone who argues that one side was lying/spinning is crazy, but they both were. And as far as staying on message, I actually stopped watching the first Pres. debate b/c no one was answering the questions. I think Palin did a good job of showing some originality - that she is not just a copy cat of John McCain, and that she is intelligent by attacking Biden (much more difficult b/c it opens yourself up for a counter from a more skilled debator). Biden clearly knows his stuff, but he came across as a bit stuffy and “know-it-all” to me, much like a professor giving a lecture. And did anyone notice how many “home towns” he mentioned? He must have moved a LOT! And I agreew with an earlier post, that while he seemed to continually harp on George Bush’s policies, he didn’t seem to discuss many of his own. In my fact checking (MSNBC.com and factcheck.org) I discovered that Biden himself voted for the 1999 law that allowed the creation of mortgage-backed securities. A law that was signed by President CLINTON (not Bush). I also found out (NY Times) that it was Clinton that pressured Freddie Mac to lend to lower income people - not Bush. And then there’s Barney Frank telling everyone two months ago that Fannie and Freddie are just in great shape, only to completely deny any responsibility when the went belly up. I’m sick of people blaming Busc for this stuff. True, the guy’s a terrible President, but he didn’t do these things. In fact, he hasn’t done much of anything (now that’s something to be upset about).

In my opinion, our President needs integrity, intelligence, a strong work ethic, and the ability to communicate effectively with the American people. We can’t expect the President to know all things about everything - that is why he has a cabinet. We must require however, that the Presdient clearly evaluates all choices before him and makes the best decision possible with the information given. For that, I applaud John McCain. While I don’t agree with all his policies, he has shown at least some willingness to disregard party lines to do what he thinks is right. And while his pick of Sarah Palin is w/o question a bit of a play for women voters, I applaud it for bringing some new life into a city stuffed with people that have been there too long.

As far as the vote last night, I think Ms. Palin proved that she has the core values necessary to be President if it came down to it, although I hope it wouldn’t. All I hear from Obama is “change,” and he’s defined that as taking more of the money I work hard for to give it to others because they don’t EARN as much as me. I’m 100% taking care of children, the sick/handicapped, and the elderly, but as far as everyone in between is concerned, we should work to make sure that everyone has access to education and training, and let the chips fall where they may. If you choose to learn and work, you win. If you don’t want to work as hard, that’s fine, you’ll just have less. If you don’t like that system, move to Canada or France.

I definitely don’t agree with McCain/Palin on all issues, but I respect their generally straight-talking style (well, for politicians anyway), so at least for now, he’s got my vote.

Palin will go back to Alaska and be the Governor of the wealthiest State in the country. And if Alaska was a separate country they would be the 4th wealthiest country in the World. –johnh

Johnh, if the Palin’s had their way Alaska would be a seperate country. The simple fact that her husband was a member of the AIP, and therefore supported Alaska seccesion should disqualify her. Could you imagine the uproar if Obama or his wife were members of such a group?

Also, Palin stated that Alaska residents have the lowest tax burden of any other state. She failed to mention that is because of the taxes placed on the oil industry. Funny that she did not propose that tax strategy for the lower 48.

Such a great debate, I believe we should now flip the ticket to Palin/McCain. Come on Nov. 4th.

I found her to be somewhat insulting. I felt like she wasn’t willing to actually discuss WHAT McCain would do, just say well we WILL do something, but no HOW. I also felt like she was talking down to the public, like we were children rather then intelligent adults.

As for all her antics and comments about the average person, I felt they were forced and preplanned. They didn’t come across as genuine.

She sounded very rehearsed and scripted and while Biden did as well, her’s came off much worse because she was scripting things that should have come pretty natural.. the stories about her everyday life.

She was very nervous and you could easily tell when she got a question she knew nothing about. Her eyes got bigger and her voice faltered. The bankruptcy question REALLY threw her off guard and she blundered that question horribly.

Bsquared, you are going to vote rebpublican no matter what and obviously seeing thngs in favor of your side. You say Bush is not to blame huh? Here is the transcript to a 2002 speech Bush gave to HUD pushing for more minority home ownership and the involment of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Remember, Bush gave the speech in 2002 and now we have the resulting problem here in 2008. This happend on W’s watch, not Clinton’s.

http://www.hud.gov/news/speeches/presremarks.cfm

REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT ON HOMEOWNERSHIP
at the Department of Housing and Urban Development
Washington, D.C.
June 18, 2002, 10:30 A.M. EDT
THE PRESIDENT: Well, thank you all very much for that kind welcome. I’m here for a couple of reasons. First, I want to thank you all for your service to the greatest nation on the face of the Earth. (Applause.) I’m here to celebrate National Homeownership Month, because I believe owning a home is an essential part of economic security. And I’m concerned about the security of America. (Applause.)
I had the pleasure on June the 12th of speaking to the last President who visited HUD. I wish number 41 a happy birthday. (Applause.) And I’m glad you’ve invited me here today, I really am. I first am really proud of Mel Martinez and Alphonso Jackson. I’ve known Mel for a while, I’ve known Alphonso for a long time. There was no question in my mind that these two fine Americans would do a great job in leading this important agency. (Applause.)
I want to thank all those who have assumed leadership roles, who have left your states and your friends to come and serve America. And that’s important. Service to our country is an incredibly important part of being an American.
I want to thank all those who have worked here for a short time and long time, who will be here after we leave. I want to thank a man named Larry Thompson, who has worked here for — where’s Larry? (Applause.) Larry’s been here for 30 years. And I want to — appreciate your service, Larry, and thank you for setting such a fine example for many others inside this building who serve the country.
Let me first talk about how to make sure America is secure from a group of killers, people who hate — you know what they hate? They hate the idea that somebody can go buy a home. They hate freedom; that’s what they hate. They hate the fact that we worship freely. They don’t like the thought of Christian, Jew and Muslim living side by side in peace. They don’t like that at all. And therefore, they — since they resent our freedoms, they feel like they should take out their resentment by destroying innocent lives. And this country will do everything we can possibly do to protect America. (Applause.)
And that’s going to mean making sure our homeland is secure, and I appreciate the progress we’re making on setting up a Department of Homeland Security. I know it’s going to be hard for some in Congress to give up a little power here and there, but I think it’s going to happen because people realize we’re here to serve the American people, not here to serve a political party or turf in the United States Congress. (Applause.)
But the best way to secure the homeland is to hunt them down one by one. And I mean hunt them down one by one and bring them to justice, which is precisely what America will do. (Applause.)
I want to thank the choir for coming, the youngsters for being here. I just want you to know that, when we talk about war, we’re really talking about peace. We want there to be peace. We want people to live in peace all around the world. I mean, our vision for peace extends beyond America. We believe in peace in South Asia. We believe in peace in the Middle East. We’re going to be steadfast toward a vision that rejects terror and killing, and honors peace and hope.
I also want the young to know that this country, we don’t conquer people, we liberate people — because we hold true to our values of life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The security of our homeland, the need to make sure that America is safe and secure while we chase peace is my number one priority for the country.
But I’ve got another priority, as well. I not only want America to be safer and stronger, I want America to be better. (Applause.) I want America to be a better place. I worry about our economy, because there are people who can’t find work who want to work. In this town, people look at numbers all the time — you know, such and such a number dropped, or this number increased. What I worry about are hearts and souls. That’s what I worry about. And if somebody is trying to find work who can’t find work, we need to continue to expand our job base. (Applause.)
We also have got to understand, in this land of plenty, there are pockets of hopelessness and despair. You know, I mentioned the word American Dream in Atlanta. I also recognize that some people aren’t sure that dream extends to them. Some people don’t even know what the dream means. And our job — our jobs, our collective jobs, is to make sure that notion of the American Dream extends into every single neighborhood around this country. (Applause.)
I know this isn’t the right department when I talk about education, but education, making sure every child is educated and no child is left behind, is part of making sure the American Dream extends to every single neighborhood in America. (Applause.) And we’re making progress in a practical way when it comes to educating children, because, you know what, for the first time the federal government says, if you receive money, you need to let us know whether the children are learning to read and write and add and subtract. And if they are, we’ll praise the teachers and praise the parents and praise the administrators. But if not, if our children can’t read and write and add and subtract, instead of just hoping something changes, we’re going to use the accountability system to insist upon change, so every child has a chance to realize the dream in America. (Applause.)
But I believe owning something is a part of the American Dream, as well. I believe when somebody owns their own home, they’re realizing the American Dream. They can say it’s my home, it’s nobody else’s home. (Applause.) And we saw that yesterday in Atlanta, when we went to the new homes of the new homeowners. And I saw with pride firsthand, the man say, welcome to my home. He didn’t say, welcome to government’s home; he didn’t say, welcome to my neighbor’s home; he said, welcome to my home. I own the home, and you’re welcome to come in the home, and I appreciate it. (Applause.) He was a proud man. He was proud that he owns the property. And I was proud for him. And I want that pride to extend all throughout our country.
One of the things that we’ve got to do is to address problems straight on and deal with them in a way that helps us meet goals. And so I want to talk about a couple of goals and — one goal and a problem.
The goal is, everybody who wants to own a home has got a shot at doing so. The problem is we have what we call a homeownership gap in America. Three-quarters of Anglos own their homes, and yet less than 50 percent of African Americans and Hispanics own homes. That ownership gap signals that something might be wrong in the land of plenty. And we need to do something about it.
We are here in Washington, D.C. to address problems. So I’ve set this goal for the country. We want 5.5 million more homeowners by 2010 — million more minority homeowners by 2010. (Applause.) Five-and-a-half million families by 2010 will own a home. That is our goal. It is a realistic goal. But it’s going to mean we’re going to have to work hard to achieve the goal, all of us. And by all of us, I mean not only the federal government, but the private sector, as well.
And so I want to, one, encourage you to do everything you can to work in a realistic, smart way to get this done. I repeat, we’re here for a reason. And part of the reason is to make this dream extend everywhere.
I’m going to do my part by setting the goal, by reminding people of the goal, by heralding the goal, and by calling people into action, both the federal level, state level, local level, and in the private sector. (Applause.)
And so what are the barriers that we can deal with here in Washington? Well, probably the single barrier to first-time homeownership is high down payments. People take a look at the down payment, they say that’s too high, I’m not buying. They may have the desire to buy, but they don’t have the wherewithal to handle the down payment. We can deal with that. And so I’ve asked Congress to fully fund an American Dream down payment fund which will help a low-income family to qualify to buy, to buy. (Applause.)
We believe when this fund is fully funded and properly administered, which it will be under the Bush administration, that over 40,000 families a year — 40,000 families a year — will be able to realize the dream we want them to be able to realize, and that’s owning their own home. (Applause.)
The second barrier to ownership is the lack of affordable housing. There are neighborhoods in America where you just can’t find a house that’s affordable to purchase, and we need to deal with that problem. The best way to do so, I think, is to set up a single family affordable housing tax credit to the tune of $2.4 billion over the next five years to encourage affordable single family housing in inner-city America. (Applause.)
The third problem is the fact that the rules are too complex. People get discouraged by the fine print on the contracts. They take a look and say, well, I’m not so sure I want to sign this. There’s too many words. (Laughter.) There’s too many pitfalls. So one of the things that the Secretary is going to do is he’s going to simplify the closing documents and all the documents that have to deal with homeownership.
It is essential that we make it easier for people to buy a home, not harder. And in order to do so, we’ve got to educate folks. Some of us take homeownership for granted, but there are people — obviously, the home purchase is a significant, significant decision by our fellow Americans. We’ve got people who have newly arrived to our country, don’t know the customs. We’ve got people in certain neighborhoods that just aren’t really sure what it means to buy a home. And it seems like to us that it makes sense to have a outreach program, an education program that explains the whys and wherefores of buying a house, to make it easier for people to not only understand the legal implications and ramifications, but to make it easier to understand how to get a good loan.
There’s some people out there that can fall prey to unscrupulous lenders, and we have an obligation to educate and to use our resource base to help people understand how to purchase a home and what — where the good opportunities might exist for home purchasing.
Finally, we want to make sure the Section 8 homeownership program is fully implemented. This is a program that provides vouchers for first-time home buyers which they can use for down payments and/or mortgage payments. (Applause.)
So this is an ambitious start here at the federal level. And, again, I repeat, you all need to help us every way you can. But the private sector needs to help, too. They need to help, too. Of course, it’s in their interest. If you’re a realtor, it’s in your interest that somebody be interested in buying a home. If you’re a homebuilder, it’s in your interest that somebody be interested in buying a home.
And so, therefore, I’ve called — yesterday, I called upon the private sector to help us and help the home buyers. We need more capital in the private markets for first-time, low-income buyers. And I’m proud to report that Fannie Mae has heard the call and, as I understand, it’s about $440 billion over a period of time. They’ve used their influence to create that much capital available for the type of home buyer we’re talking about here. It’s in their charter; it now needs to be implemented. Freddie Mac is interested in helping. I appreciate both of those agencies providing the underpinnings of good capital.
There’s a lot of faith-based programs that want to be involved with educating people about how to buy a home. And we’re going to have an active outreach from HUD. (Applause.)
And so this ambitious goal is going to be met. I believe it will be, just so long as we keep focused, and remember that security at home is — economic security at home is just an important part of — as homeland security. And owning a home is part of that economic security. It’s also a part of making sure that this country fulfills its great hope and vision.
See, I tell people — and I believe this — that out of the evil done to America will come some incredible good. (Applause.) You know, they thought they were attacking a country so weak and so feeble that we might file a lawsuit or two, and that’s all we’d do. (Laughter.) That’s what they thought. We’re showing them the different face of America. We’re showing them that we’re plenty tough. When it comes to taking somebody trying to take away our freedoms, we’re tough, and we’re going to remain tough and steadfast. (Applause.)
But I also want people to see the deep compassion of America, as well. I want the world to see the other side of our character, which is the soft side, the decent side, the loving side. I want people to know that when we talk about dreams, we mean big dreams. And when we talk about a free society, we want a society in which every citizen has the chance to advance, not just a few.
And part of the cornerstone of America is the ability for somebody, regardless of where they’re from, regardless of where they were born, to say, this is my home; I own this home, it is my piece of property, it is my part of the American experience. It is essential that we stay focused on the goal, and work hard to achieve that goal. And when it’s all said and done, we can look back and say, because of my work, because of our collective work, America is a better place. Out of evil came incredible good.
Thank you all for coming by.
END

bsquared56,

At least you hit all the neocon talking points. For a minute, I was worried that you might be nonpartisan.

I assume you’re in college since you’re taking a “marketing class”. I’d suggest you follow it up with a course on research methods. You really misread the factcheck.org site you mentioned, since it allocates blame to both parties for the fiasco and shows how the bill Biden voted for may have softened the blow of foreclosures. With such a disregard for the facts, its no wonder you favor McCain/Palin.

Follow-up debunking: the 1999 bill did not create mortgage-securities.

Palin and Biden are NOT running for the Presidents seat.”She’s a heart beat away”. Give me a break. It’s O’bama and Mcain that are running for the big chair. That’s what matters. And by the way- where is Cheney? See. no one cares because it doesn’t matter.

The next question that Palin answers from last night’s debate will be the first one she answers. That whole “aw shucks” type of stuff is what we have been dealing with for the last 8 years, and why we are in the state that we are today.

She comes off as someone who should be nothing more than the president of the local pta, and that’s probably a stretch.

Mr. Newman,
Who the VP is matters quite a bit if the President is a 72 year old who’s had cancer 4 times.

Only Republicans would call marginal competence a “win”.

Palin is the perfect candidate for the Republican party ticket. I can think of no one better suited to put a face on the unintelligent, credibility lacking, fact challenged, sound bite driven, policies of the the party that has proved beyond any doubt that the modern day version of “conservative” is completely incapable of good governance.

It will take Obama at least two terms to undo the damage done by this crew.
The entire republican party should be brought up in treason charges.

Wow, so much anger. Thank you Buddy, for pasting that useless W speech. The man has made a career out of giving crappy speeches with no action, so I don’t give that a lot of credit. I in no way say he’s scott free of blame; rather was simply pointing out that we often associate blame to the wrong people, b/c it’s easy. This mess started a decade ago, during the Clinton Adminstration (repeal of the Glass-Steagal Act anyone) and has spiraled since. Congressional committees (chaired by both Rebuplicans and Democrats) failed to do their jobs and exercise oversight, as did regulators and rating agencies.

The truth is, I can’t wait to get rid of Bush. That said, I don’t think the right answer is a Democrat, just b/c he’s a Rebublican. There are WAY too many issues to only have two major parties in this country. I believe it is one of the major weaknesses of our party system - not enough choice.

And the personal attack remarks just prove my earlier point. What does that have to do with the issues? And just for the curious, I am a student, but in night school, working on my MBA.

If you value your freedom to ‘blog’ as you choose - you can thank a member of the military. If you hope to enjoy these freedoms in the future - you should vote for McCain. If you are willing to lose every freedom that our country was formed with - LEAVE THE COUNTRY BEFORE NOVEMBER 4TH!

First off, I am glad that both Senator Biden and Governor Palin did as well as they did, the country does not benefit from inept performances in these debates.

Secondly, Gov. Palin apparently knows something about energy policy, sicne that seems to be her default answer, even to questions that had nothing to do with it. This smacks too much of Donald Rumsfeld’s propensity to ignore the asked question, ask his own question, then answer that one.

Thirdly, I noticed that Gov. Palin tried Ronald Reagan’s “There you go again…” and that it fell flat — she is no Reagan. Don’t borrow lines that you cannot pull off.

Fourthly, Senator Biden stuck to his script quite well and did what VP candidates are “supposed” to do in keeping up the attack on Senator McCain’s record.

Lastly, the lack of follow-up questions was part of the design of these “debates” for the VP candidates. I felt that Ms Ifill did a remarkable job given the constraints of the format and the pain she muist have felt with her broken ankle.

As to who “won” Senator Biden on facts and foregin policy; Governor Palin on “aw shucks I’m just folks”.

Bsquared,,,right on target. As far as softening the blows on foreclosures, a good start would be to not put a mortgage on a home in the first place if you can’t afford it. The poster who mentioned treason should get a clue on what treason is. Blasting our congressionally aproved surge strategy (Democrat party controlled congress, continues to fund it) to the world (Obama), could be construed as sedition if not outright treason itself.

Transcript of Thursday Nights VP Debate
o I highly recommend this read at the link to both sides.
o The transcript of course only has the words. It does not capture any winking, blinking, flirting, body language or other distractions that may have occurred.

http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/president/debates/transcripts/vice-presidential-debate.html

I found this revealing dialog on the duties of the VP about 80% into the transcript. It is typical quality of the responses from each candidate throughout the debate.

“IFILL: Governor, you mentioned a moment ago the constitution might give the vice president more power than it has in the past. Do you believe as Vice President Cheney does, that the Executive Branch does not hold complete sway over the office of the vice presidency, that it it is also a member of the Legislative Branch?

PALIN: Well, our founding fathers were very wise there in allowing through the Constitution much flexibility there in the office of the vice president. And we will do what is best for the American people in tapping into that position and ushering in an agenda that is supportive and cooperative with the president’s agenda in that position. Yeah, so I do agree with him that we have a lot of flexibility in there, and we’ll do what we have to do to administer very appropriately the plans that are needed for this nation. And it is my executive experience that is partly to be attributed to my pick as V.P. with McCain, not only as a governor, but earlier on as a mayor, as an oil and gas regulator, as a business owner. It is those years of experience on an executive level that will be put to good use in the White House also.

IFILL: Vice President Cheney’s interpretation of the vice presidency?

BIDEN: Vice President Cheney has been the most dangerous vice president we’ve had probably in American history. The idea he doesn’t realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United States, that’s the Executive Branch. He works in the Executive Branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that.

And the primary role of the vice president of the United States of America is to support the president of the United States of America, give that president his or her best judgment when sought, and as vice president, to preside over the Senate, only in a time when in fact there’s a tie vote. The Constitution is explicit.

The only authority the vice president has from the legislative standpoint is the vote, only when there is a tie vote. He has no authority relative to the Congress. The idea he’s part of the Legislative Branch is a bizarre notion invented by Cheney to aggrandize the power of a unitary executive and look where it has gotten us. It has been very dangerous.”

I watched the debate twice and have read the transcript.
o As a result, I re-conclude that the credentials of candidate Sarah Palin are horribly short of those of our previous VP candidates.
o That this candidate would be one heartbeat away on day#1 is frightening and speaks volumes to the poor judgement of John McCain in selecting her.

budb1969,

I was referring to the fact that bsquared was disingenuous by claiming to be nonpartisan. Asking folks to go to factcheck.org and then contradicting the factcheck website is the height of truthiness. You can’t rail against spin and then start spewing it….unless you’re a Republican.

The advise to not purchase a mortgage if you can’t afford it is pretty bipartisan in my book. Don’t know where your going with the “spin” you tried to “spew”. Last I checked, I’m free to vote for the candidate of my choice.

Kendall - Appreciate your diligence and apologize if I was not 100% clear, but the point I was trying to make was simply that everyone (Republicans and Democrats) was for more and more market expansion while it was happening, and no one wanted to talk about controlling it (Not McCain or Obama or Bush or Clinton), but now that we went to far, they (again - both sides) we, as a nation, seem much more intent on placing blame than on truely understanding the causes, and working on a solution. So yes, I think it’s wrong for Biden to blame everything on Bush for political gain (b/c he then tries to portray McCain as an extension of Bush). By the same token, I do not think it is right that the McCain campaign is claiming that he spearheaded any efforts to fix Freddie/Fannie (I’m sure you’ll correct me if I’m misquoting, but I believe factcheck said that he co-sponsored a bill about a year after it was written - pretty weak).

Taking this one step further, to all those that blame the Repubs for “talking down to everyone” and not talking specifics, the Dems are doing the same thing. Biden’s key message last night was President Bush. Sarah Palin’s was Oil. That’s the theme that each came back to most often. Truth is, both parties play to sound bites and oversimplification, b/c we (the American people) have proven incapable of paying attention for more than 30 seconds. They know this, and thier only real concern is staying employed, so they cater to what people want to hear-NOT what they need to hear. That is why there are only two political parties that matter. We as a people have spoken (with our votes) that we are just too darn busy to think about more than two things. We’ve gotten lazy.

It is up to us to do our own homework, and pick the right candidate for ourselves - not the best catch phrase (”change”) or best looking VP (Sarah Palin).

I think both candidates made it obvious that one is a Democrat and one is a Republican. No Mavericks, No Change.

One more thing. I’d be happy if I never again heard the phrases, “bridge to nowhere”, “Hockey Mom” and “Joe Six-pack”.

Okay - so I see a lot of shouting back and forth. I will admit at the outset that I am an Obama supporter. I think we need a President who has intelligence, judgment, good communication skills, and the character to use all these abilities.

What I am trying to figure out is why anyone supports McCain/Palin? Is the appeal that Palin is “one of us”? Because I don’t see it. Is it the pro-life issue? I know for some people, it boils down to one issue and this is it. (Frankly, I don’t think this is reasonable. Even if you’re opposed to abortion rights, there are many more pressing problems facing the country right now than the right to choose.) I’m really trying to understand what it is you’re hoping we get if McCain/Palin ticket wins.

The abortion alienates me right away from candidates like Obama and Biden. Plus I believe Barack will lead America to be a less free place.

— Bill Hannegan
“The abortion alienates me right away from candidates like Obama and Biden. . .”

Single issue voters.
Look at the “big picture”.

Assess the overall impact for our country before you cast your ballot for President.
Most likely your decision will be a compromise because rarely will one like all in a candidates past or the future they propose.

Don’t focus on a single issue.
Voting for a candidate only because they support your primary issue ignores the candidates history and view. They may not be what you want.

This type of wedge politics brought us the current administration and got it reelected in 2004.

Don’t be played again.

Palin continued her laughably poor performance - though, to be fair, not quite as hilarious as her claiming she was a voracious reader of publications, then couldn’t name a single one - or a single Supreme Court decision besides Roe v Wade (all questions a pretty average high schooler could ace).

When asked about the VP’s role, or her Achilles’ Heel (maybe she is unfamiliar with the term?), she launched into rehearsed talking points, or acted as if she was answering another question, perhaps one concocted in her own empty head. It was jarring and bizarre, and didn’t go unnoticed by anyone in the media or any viewer for that matter. It’s hilarious that simply because she didn’t throw up or faint onstage that her dwindling supporters are claming victory. In the end, all the studying and cramming in the world can’t help this poser. I’m sure she’s a nice gal, but I’m tired of this idea that the president and vice president should be average joes when it comes to intelligence - it’s this insecure love of dumb-dumbs that got us two terms with baby Bush.

For his part, no matter what lies or hypocrisy she spewed, even about flip-flopping (hello!? Bridge to Nowhere? Pot, meet kettle), Joe Biden never once took the bait and attacked her. He smartly kept his criticism focused on McCain.

In a matter of weeks, she’s gone from being a rallier to an albatross for John McCain. He’s reaping what he sowed for his rash, cynical decision.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/01/AR2008100103600.html

If you listened to the pundits after the debate, you know that there are many false statements by both parties. That’s the problem. No matter what is said, who is telling the truth? It is so easy to be misled by either party. I believe that the past has to be considered when voting…when someone says “don’t look back, look forward”, they are trying to get you to forget about all the problems the previous administration got us into. Regardless of your party, think about if you want more of the same or a change for the better. Even if you don’t know a lot about the candidates, this question “am I and the world better off after 8 years of Bush?” should help you decide. It really ain’t rocket science, folks.

For the past few days I’ve been looking over the political map of America. For the past what, 12 years now, we are a country divided. The heartland bleeds red and the far west and northeast coasts are always blue. I’ve known this since Clinton was first elected. I’ve watched it become even more divisive and pronounced during George W’s campaigns. We are a country divided. I heard Kelsey Grammer on the Glenn Beck show today. He said it well when he said, (paraphrasing) “we are in a civil war. Not a war with bullets. But still, a civil war. Sadly, in these past 12 years the only thing that has brought us together is Osama Bin Laden”, and even now, there are those who want to make what happened on 9/11 into a conspiracy planned and delivered by our own government. As I have looked over the map and recall my last year of living in LALA land I have had many thoughts of hoping/wanting the northeast and west coasts to secede the Union. Yes, I have entertained many thoughts of wanting them gone. Let them leave and form their own government, infrastructure, social or communist states and leave the rest of us the heck alone. There are so many people compressed into these areas (I think I heard an estimate of 10 million living in LA county while I was there) that they lose a sense of belonging to a community, a sense of what can I do to help rather than what can the government do for me? I saw too many examples of “me first, screw the other guy” while I was in LA to list. And if I can’t do it for myself, well then by God the government better do it for me. These huge metropolises are so expensive to live in that it is hard to survive. So, live beyond my means, hey, it’s okay, I can file bankruptcy. And now, if what Joe Biden said during his debate last night is true, a judge can pardon my inability to pay my mortgage, lower my interest rate, and even change the principle amount I owe on said mortgage, just so I don’t lose my house. Never mind that I should never have been given a loan for such a large amount, or I was betting on being able to pay interest only, or maybe I just bought more home than I needed or could really afford. Doesn’t matter, the government will fix it all for me. Thank you Joe. I will certainly keep this in mind if I decide I need a bigger more expensive house, or even if I decide I should spend my money on luxury items and not pay my mortgage. Why should I worry if I can just have a judge make my problem go away?

Which brings me to my next point. Who ends up paying the difference? The government? Oh, yes, they will do it with the 50% which I already pay on my income in taxes and if Biden is again correct, I’m sure it will go up to around 65%. Please, take my wealth and make a society of “fairness” as you proposed. Like you said, it’s not a redistribution of wealth, it’s just “fair.” Say it ain’t so Joe….I really need to know who that is fair to. Who in their right mind would want to continue to work hard to make more and provide for their family just to have the government take it away for the fairness of everyone? I haven’t done the figures yet, but I can’t help but wonder if I wouldn’t actually keep more in my own pocket if I made just under the $250K amount you’ve stated instead of growing my business and having you take more and more in taxes. So, maybe I should reduce my work force and lay off some people, provide less services to the community I serve, and try to reduce my gross income. Oh, but wait. If I am to believe you the majority of small business owners already don’t make over $250K a year so it won’t affect them, so why am I even worried?

Joe represents the blue states very well. He is a true blue blooded Washington insider who knows how to talk the talk but not walk the walk. He can mesmerize the smartest of the dumb with his facts and figures, never mind that 1/2 of them are bold faced lies. He sounds knowledgeable and that, after all, is what the left is all about: perceived intelligence, elitism, and knowing how to make a pile of Ship High In Transit (look at the acronym) look like a filet mignon.

Palin on the other hand is a down to earth, my type of gal. She is genuine. She is likable. She may not know the ins and outs of Washington, but she knows dishonesty and greed. She is willing to take it on and conquer it for the little guy. She is a woman of principles. She is the heartland of America and that is why we love her. She wants to unite us, to make “I’m proud to be an American” mean something. And beyond being a patriot, she promises to change the way government is run. She promises to put it back in it’s place of protecting freedoms, rights, liberties, and the pursuit of happiness. Not adding to the ever expanding monster that wants to control every aspect of your life. Not send it on its way to becoming a socialist state. A promise to make it smaller and allow you to get on with your life without it being in the way. Thank you Sarah Palin. Now, Joe, let’s talk.

Your ability to talk out of both sides of your mouth is profound. You are like a snake charmer who bobs and weaves while hypnotizing his prey. Then, when they are so coo-coo for cocoa puffs that they don’t know what to believe, you strike and immobilize them. You conquer and reign supreme over the snake who will a few years down the road wake up from the hypnosis and realize it’s been screwed. Then watch out Barrack and Biden, because that viper is venomous and will find a way to strike back. I only hope and pray that it happens on Nov. 4th when McCain/Palin win the election, and not in 4 years in an effort to rid us of the ilk your administration imposed on us all.

— chrisjonna
“She wants to unite us, to make “I’m proud to be an American” . . she promises to . . . . She promises to . . Not adding to . . Not send it on its way to . . . A promise to make it . . .

And Now, Let’s Play Jeopardy

Sarah Palin provided this answer during the VP Debate

“Well, our founding fathers were very wise there in allowing through the Constitution much flexibility there in the office of the vice president. And we will do what is best for the American people in tapping into that position and ushering in an agenda that is supportive and cooperative with the president’s agenda in that position. Yeah, so I do agree with him that we have a lot of flexibility in there, and we’ll do what we have to do to administer very appropriately the plans that are needed for this nation. And it is my executive experience that is partly to be attributed to my pick as V.P. with McCain, not only as a governor, but earlier on as a mayor, as an oil and gas regulator, as a business owner. It is those years of experience on an executive level that will be put to good use in the White House also.”

Please Provide Your Response Making Sure It Is In The Form Of A Question

— chrisjonna
o My question to you is: How do you know what Sarah wants to do or is promising?
Her answer above is a big blob of babbling gibberish just like most of her answers

What Was John McCain Thinking?
o John McCain’s judgement is seriously flawed.
o Does anyone really think she has the credentials to be a heartbeat away from President

Play more Jeopardy at this link
http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/president/debates/transcripts/vice-presidential-debate.html

And Now, Let’s Play Jeopardy

Sarah Palin provided this answer during the VP Debate

“Well, our founding fathers were very wise there in allowing through the Constitution much flexibility there in the office of the vice president. And we will do what is best for the American people in tapping into that position and ushering in an agenda that is supportive and cooperative with the president’s agenda in that position. Yeah, so I do agree with him that we have a lot of flexibility in there, and we’ll do what we have to do to administer very appropriately the plans that are needed for this nation. And it is my executive experience that is partly to be attributed to my pick as V.P. with McCain, not only as a governor, but earlier on as a mayor, as an oil and gas regulator, as a business owner. It is those years of experience on an executive level that will be put to good use in the White House also.”

Please Provide Your Response Making Sure It Is In The Form Of A Question

What Was John McCain Thinking?
o How does anyone know what Sarah is saying?
o Her answer above is a big blob of babbling gibberish just like most of her answers

John McCain’s judgement must be seriously flawed.
He thinks she has the credentials to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency.
On day#1

Play more Jeopardy at this link
http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/president/debates/transcripts/vice-presidential-debate.html

Obama’s strong support of extreme abortion rights tells me that there is something so deeply wrong with his philosopy that I cannot trust him. Abortion will keep Obama from uniting the country.

“Abortion will keep Obama from uniting the country.”

Bill, what makes you think Obama has any desire to unite the country? The “Change” he preaches about is all about changing the party in power, not changing the way Washingtoon is ran. Obama, Reid and Pelosi simply will NOT unify the country, they have NO desire to work with the other party, they simply want to force their views on America.

STL, you seem upset at “one issue voters”, unless they are voting the way you want; “McSame”?

This Sunday (04Oct08) as part of the homily the priest will discuss “murder” what we know as pro-choice. There will be no talk of the economy, health care, “love thy neighbor” don’t practice racism, only abortion rights the decision the celibate men and women of the church should not have to ever be put in a position to choose.
Thanks God the Catholic nuns have formed their own group pushing for the bishops to stop only speaking about abortion against Obama and allowing McCain to increase poverty, lack of health care and promote racism.

Patricia Gibson, RN

Other points of interest.

How can we connect Obama to someone who was, like all of us, a little radical when we were young in the 60’s? The passion was there, and it took 40 years to see a little, yet still conservative passion blooming again in our youth.
But I digress. Obama was 8 when Ayers was a weatherman. But more recently John and his campaign manager were “running a campaign” when he met, like gangster’s on CSI Miami, with Raffaello Follieri, now convicted felon.. To do a little vote getting business.

Obama and ’60s Bomber: A Look Into Crossed Paths – New York Times 03Oct2008
Follieri has ties to McCain as well. Shortly after he entertained the Republican candidate on a rented yacht in Europe in 2006, he hired the lobbying firm Davis Manafort for his Catholic Church business initiative. The company was founded by top McCain adviser Rick Davis.

9/11/08 at 3:00 PM
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He’s a party McCainimal!Photo: Courtesy of the Nation
…. McCain is shown boarding the yacht ramp towards the smiling Follieri and Hathaway. Just ahead of McCain and shaking hands with Follieri appears to be Rick Davis–McCain’s top aide and now co-manager of his campaign, who accompanied him on the trip and advised the government of MontenegroOne of our favorite tidbits from Michael Shnayerson’s recent Raffaello Follieri story in Vanity Fair was the fact that John “I Hate Celebrities” McCain once totally hung with Hathaello on Follieri’s rented yacht one weekend when it was docked off the coast of Montenegro. And according to Vijesti, Montenego’s leading daily, it wasn’t just any day, either: It was McCain’s 70th birthday, which they all celebrated with cocktails and sweets and very likely getting low to some T-Pain, as we suspect McCain is wont to do. Now the Nation has published a picture of that special day, in which McCain and his aide (now campaign manager) Rick Davis meet the star of their favorite movie, The Devil Wears Prada. Everyone looks so happy. It’s hard to imagine it will only be a few short years before McCain denounces all celebrities save Heidi Montag and Follieri goes to prison and the authorities take away all Anne’s jewels. Poor Anne. No wonder she’s an Obama girl now.
The photograph substantiates reports that in late August, 2006, McCain celebrated his 70th birthday aboard a yacht, the Celine Ashley, rented by A-list con man Raffaello Follieri and his then-movie star girlfriend Anne Hathaway. A few months after McCain’s yacht party, Follieri strengthened his ties to McCain’s orbit by retaining Rick Davis’s well-connected Washington lobbying firm, Davis Manafort, and offering Davis both an investment deal and help in securing the Catholic vote for McCain’s presidential bid.

Hey !
Biden was outstanding in everyway ! He responded to all of the issues and questions in the manner in which a future-president, if necessary, would do in the future. He is no phony ! Gov/Palin is a phony ! She is attempting to draw the Whitewomen vote for McCain. But, Women aren’t crazy, or ignorant. They know that McCain do not support Women on any issues; and this includes Whitewomen. Why, this guy want even vote to give Women the right for equal pay with Men ! What kind of Monster is this in the 21st Century ! No on McCain now; and never !

The structure of the debate was flawed. Palin was given opportunity to talk around and to admittedly OUTRIGHT AVOID the topics, and the last 30 minutes of her responses were nothing more than a repeat of the first 60 minutes! Her down-home hee-haw approach might do well in an Alaska pep rally or bear hunt, but it “ain’t gonna make the grade” anywhere else.

I think John McCain has a Femme Fatale on his hands!

Those of us that know Scott Lohse, know he is the best man for the job. He will have an intelligent, meaningful question for the candidates.

Liars For Leaders - and the First Dark Age of Congress:

Welcome to the world of so-called Democrat Omnipotence!

The Financial wreckage caused by the so-called Democrat leadership is upon you, as must be expected. If those idiots get the Congress they want, your economic tragedies are just beginning.
As usual they try to cover up, but their endless lies and attempts to hide their responsibility are to no avail.
Their many dementias, and their dedication to the (paid-for) promotion of Perversions, over all other issues, have led their followers to intellectual and economic ruination. Now the rest of you are feeling the effects as well.
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Back on the Stage of Human Tragedies … the so-called Homosexuals AKA Democrats AKA Feminists AKA Liberals etc. still attempt every brainwashing and propaganda technique that they think has worked in the past. The intention is to keep as much of the ‘General Public’ duped, confused, and as mindlessly obedient to their insinuations, and intimidations, as is possible. And voting for them. Soon enough, those propagandas will become demands … that THEY be accepted as the Gods and Goddesses of the Unholy Grail of ‘Change‘. And what better weapon to use for that purpose than a Dark Age Congress … under their control and at their disposal.
However, their attempts at stifling and muzzling all possible Human Dissent, using any possible medium, will not work as it has in the past! Their intended creation of laws, to ‘outlaw’ any Human Dissent against their vile and perverted plans … (to commit ‘Genocide By Replacement’ of the Human species) … will also fail.
Being blind to their own inevitable failure, and with their Congress in place, they will see (or think they see) the path to their goals as a distinct possibility. Using their ‘Dark Age Congress’ they will demand obedience and submission to all of the sources of their propaganda … with emphasis on the Satan Tube and the ‘Thought Controllers’ in the Filthy Monkeys Band, and those News Rags which they already own and completely control. This will be accompanied by an all out anal assault upon the AM Radio Band. On that media many Human Commentators and Human Resisters speak the Truth about the SQLD (Satanic&Queer Lying-Dead) … otherwise known as the ‘so-calleds’. Yes, they are an organized mass of squirming evil, that can be collectively identified.
Here in the Present, harassments at home, in society and at work continue against all Human Resisters who oppose the SQLD Oligarchy. Those attacks and harassments were planned to triple and quadruple! All in the phony name and with the phony excuses of their vile causes. Their terrible goal, of course, is to destroy every Human Value and Human Moral … in the names of ‘political correctness’, ‘diversity’, and ‘tolerance’ … the three whipping (prostitutes) of the so-calleds (SQLD) and their propaganda campaign.
In the Future, inevitable failure is their destiny … however the process of bringing about their failure will be greatly enhanced and empowered if the SQLD are denied any intended Omnipotence of Political Power. They require total power in order to rape and defile the Human Species with their phony laws and regulations … all of which are intended to enshrine themselves and their clientele as the leaders of the ‘Tolerant Society’. A society in which Humans are just those nasty things that have to be kept in Chains! Mental Chains - Physical Chains - Spiritual Chains - Muzzles with Chains … a Chain is a Chain is a Chain.
If the SQLD get their intended ‘Dark Age Congress‘, where no Light Of Human Decency is allowed to shine … they will immediately, mercilessly and without a hint of guilt … destroy every Human Institution and Value System in this country … as soon as they can … as permanently as they can!

If you want to prevent that … do two things.

1. Do not be registered as a so-called Democrat.

2. NEVER VOTE so-called DEMOCRAT !!!!

Rush Limbaugh has accurately described the followers of the so-called Democrats as … (and I paraphrase) … people without luster, hope or direction - all in need of any guidance or structure that promises them everything. So, at the so-called Democrat watering trough they cannot be denied a drink - or any whim of insanity - or any disease of perversion. They call that ‘Mass Appeal’.
Well, that all adds up to the Death Of The Human Species!
Here in the Present, the SQLD will do anything to reinforce and falsely validate the continued misuse and prostitution of the foundations, institutions, and intentions … of what was once a Human Nation and a Human Capital … which they now infest, dement, and disease.
You may ask “Why?”. Why is all of this happening, and why do such terrible creatures exist? Well, by the time we get through SQLD 404 you will know why … far more than you ever wanted to.
For now, my best advice is simple. Do onto the enemy - as the enemy does onto you! The days of blind suffering for all Humans are over.
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Try to think beyond yourselves. Above yourselves if possible. Ahead of yourselves especially. Far more than just your Humanity rides in the balance here.
In the not too far future, all of Real Human History (not falsely rewritten by the SQLD), will demand to know what monstrosities dared to attempt the perverting and ‘Death by Replacement’ of the Human Species.
Will you know what to tell the Future? Do you know who and what is responsible?
Keep in mind that if you are Human, you are not supposed to know anything Real or Truthful. And to make sure you never get a chance to know the Truth, anyone willing to say the Truth has to be eliminated!
Or at least … that is how it was supposed to work.
Now, WE are going to be looking for enemies … instead of enemies looking for US.
That is quite a turn about of events, considering that the SQLD planned on hunting us down like wild pigs in a parking lot! And it’s not just the Human Resisters of today that they want to kill. It’s the Human Resisters of Tomorrow that must die too. And that means … YOUR CHILDREN!
To the so-called HomoMasters AKA DemoMasters …one Death is as good as another. Mental, Social, Economic, Spiritual, Physical, Premature … any death that stops Human Resistance! Just as long as it’s not Final Death … for themselves!

Oh by the way, to any HomoMasters AKA DemoMasters out there that might be reading this … does it look like I give a (“gosh darn“) what you want or say?

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