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10.02.2008 9:33 pm

Did the candidates effectively promote the ticket? Vote and comment

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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The debate is over now. You can find full coverage of the debate on STLtoday’s Politics page here. But we want to hear from you. How would you grade the performance of the candidates in the one-and-only vice presidential debate? Did they get across the points they need to make to voters? Did they help or hurt their ticket? Vote on the scorecard below.

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Was Palin successful at defining her positions?

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And don’t forget to visit some of our other poll pages — some serious, some not-so — to evaluate the debate.

Which candidate ‘zinger line’ was the best? [link]

On which issue did each candidate offer his/her best response?. [link]

Who won? And who got in the best shots on the other? [link]

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Quote: Tim Hogan “Palin’s not like us,”

I’m afraid I have to agree with you Timmy, no, Thank God,

she’s not like you snobby left wing liberals.

She’s is a real woman that represents the values of most Americans.

She’d probably do more to clean up Washington in 1 month,

than ole JoJoB has done in 36 years.

— Old Sarge
10:25 am October 3rd, 2008

Personally, I feel Sarah did fine, and read the Honolulu Advertisers pull of those watched. Hawaii has not sent a Republican to federal office for 25 years. Their poll showed Sarah won the debate by 82 percent to 9% and the others thought it was even.

She did well in Southern Illinois, great in Evansville, and Columbus. Go look for yourselves. Oh she great in Utah. Does that bode well for her. Of course not, The Liberal media has decided Hussein is some kind of God. So be it. Let him be worshiped for the the next year or two and see people begging on the street. He was a street organizer in Chicago. Maybe he can organize them to get food stamps? Or is that above his pay scale?

Palin will go back to Alaska and be the Governor of the wealthiest State in the country. And if Alaska was a separate country they would be the 4th wealthiest country in the World.

Palin will be the President of the United States 4 years down the road.
if she chooses to be.

— johnh
10:37 am October 3rd, 2008

Palin’s comments about the role and authority of the vice president - the Cheney Doctrine - were absolutely terrifying.

— devo
10:50 am October 3rd, 2008

Wow! Did you left wing whackos actually watch the debate or did you craft your posts before it happened and simply post it after the fact? Both candidates did well.

Even split on the outcome

— budb1969
10:50 am October 3rd, 2008

I made up my mind some time ago that I am voting Dem, so the debate was wonkish entertainment for me. On the other hand my wife, who really wanted to vote for Hillary, came into the debate undecided and wanted to take a good look at Palin. Towards the end of the debate my wife was upset that Palin was avoiding the questions asked. When the debate was over my wife said when Hillary talks she is concise, informed and to the point, but when Palin talks it reminded her of a female George W. Bush. She said that if Obama would have chosen Hillary as his VP, that would have been a slam-dunk ticket for her, but there was no way in hell she could now vote for McCain because of Palin. It looks like the hockey mom lost the vote of my wife the football mom.

— Buddy
10:54 am October 3rd, 2008

— johnh
“Palin will go back to Alaska and be the Governor of the wealthiest State in the country. And if Alaska was a separate country they would be the 4th wealthiest country in the World.

Finally, honest words
You know that’s “It’s Over”

“Palin will be the President of the United States 4 years down the road.
if she chooses to be.’

I thought you’d quit smoking that stuff?

— STL
11:10 am October 3rd, 2008

This is very interesting. I’m actually taking a marketing class and we recently discussed how in politics, the majority of people will see things dramatically in the favor of thier “side” and not actually look at the facts. Seems pretty accurate, given the polar opposite interpretations offered so far! As someone who despises all politicians in general, because their job is to stay employed-not run the country-I find Sarah Palin’s “newness” to Politics a good thing. Anyone who argues that one side was lying/spinning is crazy, but they both were. And as far as staying on message, I actually stopped watching the first Pres. debate b/c no one was answering the questions. I think Palin did a good job of showing some originality - that she is not just a copy cat of John McCain, and that she is intelligent by attacking Biden (much more difficult b/c it opens yourself up for a counter from a more skilled debator). Biden clearly knows his stuff, but he came across as a bit stuffy and “know-it-all” to me, much like a professor giving a lecture. And did anyone notice how many “home towns” he mentioned? He must have moved a LOT! And I agreew with an earlier post, that while he seemed to continually harp on George Bush’s policies, he didn’t seem to discuss many of his own. In my fact checking (MSNBC.com and factcheck.org) I discovered that Biden himself voted for the 1999 law that allowed the creation of mortgage-backed securities. A law that was signed by President CLINTON (not Bush). I also found out (NY Times) that it was Clinton that pressured Freddie Mac to lend to lower income people - not Bush. And then there’s Barney Frank telling everyone two months ago that Fannie and Freddie are just in great shape, only to completely deny any responsibility when the went belly up. I’m sick of people blaming Busc for this stuff. True, the guy’s a terrible President, but he didn’t do these things. In fact, he hasn’t done much of anything (now that’s something to be upset about).

In my opinion, our President needs integrity, intelligence, a strong work ethic, and the ability to communicate effectively with the American people. We can’t expect the President to know all things about everything - that is why he has a cabinet. We must require however, that the Presdient clearly evaluates all choices before him and makes the best decision possible with the information given. For that, I applaud John McCain. While I don’t agree with all his policies, he has shown at least some willingness to disregard party lines to do what he thinks is right. And while his pick of Sarah Palin is w/o question a bit of a play for women voters, I applaud it for bringing some new life into a city stuffed with people that have been there too long.

As far as the vote last night, I think Ms. Palin proved that she has the core values necessary to be President if it came down to it, although I hope it wouldn’t. All I hear from Obama is “change,” and he’s defined that as taking more of the money I work hard for to give it to others because they don’t EARN as much as me. I’m 100% taking care of children, the sick/handicapped, and the elderly, but as far as everyone in between is concerned, we should work to make sure that everyone has access to education and training, and let the chips fall where they may. If you choose to learn and work, you win. If you don’t want to work as hard, that’s fine, you’ll just have less. If you don’t like that system, move to Canada or France.

I definitely don’t agree with McCain/Palin on all issues, but I respect their generally straight-talking style (well, for politicians anyway), so at least for now, he’s got my vote.

— bsquared56
11:12 am October 3rd, 2008

Palin will go back to Alaska and be the Governor of the wealthiest State in the country. And if Alaska was a separate country they would be the 4th wealthiest country in the World. –johnh

Johnh, if the Palin’s had their way Alaska would be a seperate country. The simple fact that her husband was a member of the AIP, and therefore supported Alaska seccesion should disqualify her. Could you imagine the uproar if Obama or his wife were members of such a group?

Also, Palin stated that Alaska residents have the lowest tax burden of any other state. She failed to mention that is because of the taxes placed on the oil industry. Funny that she did not propose that tax strategy for the lower 48.

— Buddy
11:13 am October 3rd, 2008

Such a great debate, I believe we should now flip the ticket to Palin/McCain. Come on Nov. 4th.

— Kenrick
11:20 am October 3rd, 2008

I found her to be somewhat insulting. I felt like she wasn’t willing to actually discuss WHAT McCain would do, just say well we WILL do something, but no HOW. I also felt like she was talking down to the public, like we were children rather then intelligent adults.

As for all her antics and comments about the average person, I felt they were forced and preplanned. They didn’t come across as genuine.

She sounded very rehearsed and scripted and while Biden did as well, her’s came off much worse because she was scripting things that should have come pretty natural.. the stories about her everyday life.

She was very nervous and you could easily tell when she got a question she knew nothing about. Her eyes got bigger and her voice faltered. The bankruptcy question REALLY threw her off guard and she blundered that question horribly.

— mepps1
11:30 am October 3rd, 2008

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