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05.08.2008 1:37 pm

Madonna, Tina Turner announce tour dates and cities, but where’s St. Louis?

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St. Louis is definitely used to Madonna giving the city the bum’s rush every time she tours, and this summer’s Sweet and Sticky tour, announced today, is no exception. The closest Madonna comes to St. Louis is Chicago on Oct. 26.

But what does sting a bit is out-of-retirement Tina Turner’s fall tour is noticeable without a St. Lous date either. The tour opens in Kansas City Oct. 1, then goes to Chicago Oct. 3.

Nothing is currently listed on Scottrade Center’s schedule for Oct. 2.

We get the whole Chicago thing, but when did Kansas City officially become a preferred concert town over St. Louis? Oh, that’s right, ever since they got that shiny new Sprint Center.

Photo: Tina Turner, with Beyonce, at the 50th Annual Grammy Awards earlier this year.

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It’s simple….we are a medium sized market with average at best venues. KC has a brand new arena….Chicago is….Chicago.

— Bret
3:28 pm May 8th, 2008

This is truly confusing. From smaller scale hard rock and metal tours (Gigantour, Dethklok) on up to the big arena and stadium tours(Madonna, Tina Turner) St. louis is often passed over in favor of Chicago, Minneapolis, KANSAS CITY(?), etc. We are still a top 20 market right? Why does a city this large get overlooked so often? Do they only look at the city population and ignore the drastically larger metro area? Is it a problem of a lack of available venues? True, Mississippi nights is gone and American Theater no longer hosts rock shows but this area has three 10,000+ seat arenas!!! Not much of an excuse for the arena tours. Or maybe Tina is just trying to avoid Ike(He’s no longer with us! Come do a show!)

— Justin M.
3:49 pm May 8th, 2008

Maybe KC is cheaper on union labor.

— Tom
3:58 pm May 8th, 2008

Living in Kansas City, I can tell you that the town has had quite a few great shows recently, and it’s all because of the new Sprint Center. Give it a few years, everything will be back to normal before long. Does St. Louis have a venue that is handled by AEG Entertainment? The Sprint Center goes through AEG, and that has been a source of several great shows here.

— Mike
4:00 pm May 8th, 2008

Well at least we can say that we get the Dave Matthews Band at Busch Stadium this year. WHICH WILL BE AWESOME!!!!!The band is skipping Kansas City this time around!!!

— Jeremy
4:07 pm May 8th, 2008

Hmmmm, maybe because we only have one venue, The Pageant, that is even worth seeing a show at besides Riverport/Washington/Verizon…whatever center. St. Louis needs a lot of help people. Your city politicians have done nothing in the last twenty years to do anything to help promote any sort of economic growth in town. Something needs to change and it should start with the freaking earnings tax downtown!!!!! “We’d love to have your business in St. Louis, but we won’t give you any tax breaks and in addition, we’ll go ahead and slap on an extra bogus tax on top of you just because we don’t have any better economic sense to try to find a different solution to a desperation tax from 1947….”

— Brad
4:15 pm May 8th, 2008

I have also noticed that this frequently happens. The fact of the matter is that we do not have a good venue of a large size. The Scott Trade, The Dome, The Pavillion, and The Pagent are not good venues to host a show. The best venue in town is The Fox and it does not hold a Modonna size crowd.

Bret is right. This is a medium (at best) sized market. That alone hurts us. The large number of festivals we host are still a good source of shows. However some of those festivals are dying (County Fair, Strassen Fest, Fair Saint Louis) because of the increased cost of everything. Talent for these shows is not cheap.

That still doesn’t explain why smaller acts do not schedule here. The union labor cost can’t possibly be the only reason. I think we should ask ourselves if we are an apprecitative crowd. Or perhaps our attendance numbers down causing promoters to pass us for more profitable cities?

Lets hope that things improve. I’d like to see an increase in talent.

— Marc
4:21 pm May 8th, 2008

Its simple….St. Louis has horrible venues and terrible taste in music. When Sammy Haggar is the town’s favorite performer, you know you have problems. Dave Mathews is terrible. The indie crowd (the ones with good musical taste) has been hurting for years. Sometimes the Bluebird and Pageant get decent shows, but for the most part we have to travel. St. Louis also has no medium sized venue that is not powered by Clear Channel, which hurts. We all need the Roberts Orpheum theatre to get their act together and book decent shows and now worry so much about making tons of money. The citizens of this city are tired of crap and being a joke to other cities. KC is on its way up…sadly Stl has been moving down for 40 years.

— Tyler Durden
4:23 pm May 8th, 2008

Have any one been to a St. Louis show lately. The place may be full, but yet the crowd never seems to get into it. At HoosierPort, you see people sitting in the seat during the main act. Anyone outside of St. Louis thinks that we are a city of big hoosiers, and most of the time we live up to that expectation. Plus who cares where you went to highschool? At age 33, I still am asked repeatedly “where did you go to highschool?” Does it really matter. Walk into a St. Louis bar and try to talk to someone, the look at you like your from outer space or something. I can walk into a Chi Town bar and strike up a conversation with just about anyone, and the respond with somethine other than “where did you go to highschool”

— Chris
4:25 pm May 8th, 2008

Stl has horrible music taste!!!!

example…jimmy buffet sold out in 20 minutes and radiohead tickets are stil availble. Un freaking believable.

— Jim
4:27 pm May 8th, 2008

The main difference in the entertainment in Kansas City vs St. Louis is the fact that Kansas City has done a TON to improve the downtown area. This isn’t happening in St. Louis. Not only was the Sprint Center built, but the Power & Light district across from the Sprint Center draws huge crowds and gives people a place to not only attend a concert, but also have places to eat and other entertainment. St. Louis is lacking in this area, and probably will be for a while now that the Ballpark Village has fallen apart.

— Andrew
4:28 pm May 8th, 2008

At least we get the Dave Matthews Band!!!

— Jeremy
4:29 pm May 8th, 2008

If Radiohead can’t sell out Stl, why would other good bands want to come. Truly pathetic

— Alison
4:30 pm May 8th, 2008

Who cares if DMB is coming to town. What does one show prove when all the other big names just pass you up?

— Chris
4:31 pm May 8th, 2008

If they revamped the Scottrade Center and UMB Bank Pavilion every time they changed names, everyone would beg to play in St. Louis. With gas being what it is and will be, they had best drop their ticket prices, or the KC arena will be at half capacity!

— Ashley
4:31 pm May 8th, 2008

More people will be at the Steve Miller band concert than radiohead…..stupid stl hoosiers.

— Show Me
4:32 pm May 8th, 2008

what a total joke. “kc is on the way up, stl down”. St. Louis is the 18th largest metro area in the country. KC isn’t even in the top 25. look at our downtown compared to theirs.. St. Louis is full of such pessimists. where does this come from? what IS up with the american/orpheum though.. bring that baby back! aint what she used to be…

— stlfan
4:32 pm May 8th, 2008

Hey at least we get the Dave Matthews Band. Where did ya’ll go to high school?

— Jeremy
4:33 pm May 8th, 2008

Yeah, have you been to downtown KC in the past 2 years!!!!

much better than STL now…sorry its just the truth. their downtown is on the borderline of becoming pretty sweet.

— tyler durden
4:34 pm May 8th, 2008

Kansas City has a regional cooperation thing going. There are two huge universities equal distance away. The new Power and Light district is great. Kansas City Police know how to handle crowds. The SLPD hate crowds, they want to crawl back to sleep. Kansas City folks are more friendlier than STL folks anyway.

— shuttletrain
4:38 pm May 8th, 2008

St. Louis is still a little conservative, but that’s alright with me. Can’t say I missed seeing Madonna (she’s a little too wild for me), but I was thoroughly excited to see Santana recently (now that’s music I’ll remember forever)! I LOVE ST. LOUIS - the variety of people, sporting & cultural events, Forest Park, the museums, the skyscrapers, the riverfront activities… I hope that everyone who has a complaint about St. Louis will get involved to make positive changes for our city’s future.

— Cindy
4:39 pm May 8th, 2008

Once again, though not surprised that the great Lou is overlooked…but I agree with you Kevin, when did KC become more preferred? Madonna could come and stay and I could care less but Ms. Tina? Tina and Cher are rocking it out on Oprah at this very moment. For 68–she surely still has it going on. The question is will Madonna? She better get her while she can!

— Time To Retire
4:39 pm May 8th, 2008

More fans need to start coming to shows and then bands will start coming back to St. Louis. Van Halen played to a half house last week, when they are selling out in other cities. ZZ Top Played to a half haouse last year with The Pretenders and Stray Cats. People need to stop putting the blame on Live Nation. If LN knew they could sell out in St. louis then they would bring the acts here. Madonna and Tina would not sell out here and they know it.

— Colby
4:41 pm May 8th, 2008

I like to go to the Dave Matthews Band concerts. they are soooo fun, cant wait to see the first concert at Busch!!!

— Jeremy
4:46 pm May 8th, 2008

There are a lot more things to do in Saint Louis, we have so many entertainment offerings….KC is Boring, when they get a concert it is the talk of the town. No one goes to Royals games, so concerts are a big deal.
Good for them, maybe they will run out and buy her last cassette tape.

— paul
4:49 pm May 8th, 2008

I’ve heard the Scottrade Center management is difficult to deal with and refuses to book a number of shows that couple play here.

Musical tastes aside: where’s Bon Jovi? Springsteen? Maroon5? Alanis Morrisete? Matchbox 20? All have played arena shows in cities surrounding (Omaha, KC, Nashville, Memhpis Indianapolis) but not here.

Colby: the Van Halen show was sold out when they originally scheduled last fall. However two cancellations resulted in numerous returned tickets.

— Dave
4:51 pm May 8th, 2008

Van Halen was pretty darn packed when I was there. I’d say that it was at least 85% full with just the cheap seats at the top empty. And might I add, they we’re awesome. I’d think Ms. Tina would be wise to add STL to her tour since there are some real roots for her here. Just my 2 cents

— mary
5:07 pm May 8th, 2008

Oh please consumers aren’t hoosiers… they just aren’t going to pay top dollar to be hip. Jimmy Buffet has a great track record.. I like music from multiple genres… even if I liked Radiohead a little, I couldn’t imagine paying $75 a ticket for a band that will be forgotten in a year or two.

— Chuck Smith
5:08 pm May 8th, 2008

I think two shows is too small a sample from which to draw any conclusions.

Wasn’t it just two weeks ago we had five acts come through? I know a lot of people here have made comments on the quality of those acts - the tortured, “hipper-than-thou” attitude - but let’s face it, Radiohead is not exactly mass-market, nor do they want to be.

I personally avoid large venues. The personal interaction between performer and audience suffers too much. The Pageant is the ideal size - and hell, Dylan played there! We still draw a large number of regional acts, and frankly I find that to be more nourishing than seeing some “super star” on a stage about two hundred yards away! Give me a good band in a good bar any day.

Madonna? Are you kidding? And as for Tina, while leaving Ike was a good personal decision, she never was as great on her own. Give me the Kings of Rhythm and the Ikettes!

— Robert M Walsh
5:17 pm May 8th, 2008

St. Louis is so much better than Kansas City. We have so much more to do in STL than they could ever imagine. The new sprint center is cool but what happens there? They spent so much money on that new building for nothing. Of Course they are going to be willing to work with anyone and do anything to get concerts because they do not have professional hockey or basketball like Scottrade center. Let KC have their little moment….St. Louis will build its ballpark village, and all the other downtown developments will tie together the whole area. Downtown Stl will be awesome….you just wait and see all you pessimists.

— KCBLOWS
5:54 pm May 8th, 2008

Two words: Chaifetz Arena

Compared with the other 10,000 seat arenas, the new Chaifetz Arena at SLU has the best potential as a concert venue in St. Louis. Great lighting, acoustics, amenities, and the parking isn’t as bad as some people think. If you can park 8 or 10 blocks away for a Cardinals game, you can park 2 blocks away for a concert.

Stay tuned, Chaifetz is going to draw many national touring acts to St. Louis. Once their management and promotion staff is up to speed, good things will start happening.

— Charles
5:55 pm May 8th, 2008

KC draws from a huge area. There are no significant Metros for about 1,000 miles to the west and about 500 miles to the south. KC is on the edge of nowhere. STL is closer to Chicago, Memphis, & Indy. STL is as close to Chicago as KC is to STL. The STL metro may be much bigger than the KC metro, but KC has a larger “draw” area.

— The Skipper
6:11 pm May 8th, 2008

Perhaps Tina is still unhappy with the way Ike was treated last year by Mayor Slay. She obviously isn’t thrilled with Ike on a personal level, but he was being honored for his musicianship and not his private life, and St. Louis dissed him pretty hard. It isn’t the biggest reason she is skipping us this time, but it may have tilted things more towards KC.

— Kynd
6:39 pm May 8th, 2008

Dave
St. Louis is not the only city that VH cancelled. You are actually wrong, VH didn’t sellout the show during the first scheduled concert. That is why I got 12th row seats a month after tickets went on sale. And I could have ordered a seat on any level at that time. VH cancelled the first time due to ticket sales and not logitics. Logistics was a sucker excuse. Look at their original schedule and you will see that. Why didn’t The Who or Genesis come here last year. It was due to the fact that they knew it would be a hard sell here. And people in St. louis need to get off their high horse and stop telling each other what a great city it is. Wow the St. Louis Zoo and Brewery. Now that is huckleberry fun Jed.

— Colby
7:01 pm May 8th, 2008

Justin, We’ve never been (nor are close to being) a top 20 market.

— mpEA
7:41 pm May 8th, 2008

ok…..

1st- screw Madonna…old washed up hag. big loss.

2nd- luv ya Tina, but you must be 75 by now. Big loss.

3rd- Why isn’t the Dome used more often? I mean , it sits empty 300 days a year, such a waste.

4th- Where did you go to high school?

— shive
7:52 pm May 8th, 2008

It is a very interesting thing about St. Louis…

It seems to get skipped over for a lot of things, not just concerts. I lived there 2.5 years (moved there from Chicago) and found the whole experience to be incredibly head-scratching. I enjoyed it, but St. Louis is unlike any other city I’ve visited or lived in. I would never try to compare St. Louis and Chicago–you can’t–they are apples and oranges. But so many people in STL seem to have such an apparent complex with Chicago. I can’t tell you how many times people made comments about STL vs. Chicago, living in the shadow of Chicago, why would I ever move there from Chicago. It was bizarre–I have never seen a city so full of cynics and naysayers. Where is the pride? And if it’s such an awful place, why don’t people go somewhere that isn’t so awful rather than stay there and be miserable, bashing the city to anyone and everyone? I think this mentality permeates its way through the culture and psyche of the city and that’s why STL does not attract as many major concerts, interesting retailers, dynamic businesses, or large investments from outside interests. I know this is a gross generalization, but it’s true. Look at Austin, TX or Raleigh, NC or Denver, CO, Portland, OR–smaller metro areas but far advanced in so many ways. The same mentality was apparent in the workplace as well–don’t rock the boat, good enough is just good enough, new is scary, change equals fear, and so on. I came to St. Louis with incredible enthusiasm and optimism, but there are deeply rooted social and cultural issues that put STL squarely where it rests in the collective national psyche–decidedly average and resistant to outsiders and the outside world. I’m sorry, but it’s the truth. Until then there will be no IKEA, American Apparel, Madonna Tour Stop, or major companies setting up shop or relocating there.

— DR
8:31 pm May 8th, 2008

DR, as a non-native STLsan, I couldn’t agree with you more. The problem is, to see those things you have to look from away from STL. Most people here don’t have that possibility or experience.

— DR
8:50 pm May 8th, 2008

shuttletrain is right about the STL Police. They hate crowds of any kind. Particularly crowds enjoying a party, evidence Mardi Gras in Soulard! I’ve been to SuperBowls in The Big Easy and they welcome crowds with open arms. I’ve been to street parties in Dallas, Chicago and San Diego and their police departments don’t treat their partying citizens like Baghdad Terrorists.

— greglpc
9:08 pm May 8th, 2008

I grew up in StL and have lived in KC since ‘87. For years I’ve enjoyed bashing KC but I must admit the stuff they are doing downtown is very impressive. The entertainment options here are improving, and the Power and Light District is a blast.

I do agree with previous comments that it will be interesting to see how this plays out long term. Perhaps after the initial rush it will settle down again. But they are not done with the redevelopment downtown, I think there’s enough coming to keep interest up for the forseeable future.

— Dave
9:22 pm May 8th, 2008

Madonna and Tina aren’t the only ones skipping St. Louis this summer - my favorite pop band, Duran Duran, also has declined to make a stop here on the U.S. leg of their current tour.

I’ve seen them at the Fox Theatre (2005) the former Riverport Amphitheatre (1993) and they’ve played the Checkerdome (1984) the Kiel Auditorium (1989) and even Mississippi Nights (1997).

These days, most of the venues on that list are gone and the Fox doesn’t have the right sound system; I’ve seen The Power Station there too and both times the audio was poor, despite 20 years between concerts. Riverport (I refuse to call it by whatever entity currently has the naming rights) wasn’t much better, small stage, poor sound system and of course, summer St. Louis storms are always a possibility.

What the city needs is a revived Kiel Auditorium or at best, to update the sound system at the Fox.

— Chuck
9:29 pm May 8th, 2008

Follow the money folks. Touring acts rarely see the outside of their hotel rooms. One city is just like the next. The St. Louis sociological, cultural, political points above are interesting but irrelevant to artists. Profit maximization looks at an entire concert tour over time. There are scheduling and travel models that show optimum routes and dates based on availability of venues. If a visit to St. Louis were more profitbale to Madonna, she would be here.

— K. Oberkfell
9:36 pm May 8th, 2008

STL sux,always did,always will.”Where’d you go to high school?” How lame can it get there? Whatta ya Hoosiers got for brains anyway?

— steven
9:44 pm May 8th, 2008

DR could not have stated it better. I spent 7 years growing up in KC but have lived in STL for 13 years now. I still don’t call it home due to the peoples attitudes and working class approach to all things. STL continues to have a chip on its shoulder about all other towns and continues to slip further behind socially. It does, however, continue to rank in the top 35 for population statistics because no one takes a chance and moves away. However, STL has a lot to offer. But when someone attempts something bold, it is often met with negativity and dismissal. Except for SLU. The campus and Chaifetz Areana are bold and moving forward. This could be the next great venue. On a side note, other cities do not get caught up competing with neighbors. (KC and Chicago never ask about STL, they simply move forward to make their cities better.) STL must get out of the habit or it will always lose.

— Drew
9:45 pm May 8th, 2008

STL has an inferior complex about itself. I have lived in Chicago for 12 years, left STL at 22 and do not miss it. Why is the perverbial high school question still used as a qualifier to deem you “worthy” of speaking to? Does anyone go to college in STL? Also, when bands like Steve Miller and Sammy Hagar as example are sellouts and worshiped like God’s when other artisits are half sold out? I like the 2 bands mentioned, but STL and the hoosier KSHE 95 effect still reigns supreme.

STL needs to stop looking and comparing itself to other cities. Chicago could give a rat’s a$$ about STL and is quite honestly, mentioned on the news when the annual dangerous cities list comes out. The people of STL are born and bred hoosiers who have not traveled beyond the Ozarks. There is a big progressive world beyond the lame arch and useless grounds around it. STL can do a lot of studies and that’s it, nada nothing beyond that. Waht happend to the Bottle District, the New Landing, the Revived Riverfront, the Ball Park vilage…not a damn thing. The hole next to Busch should be used for pregame tailgaters to urinate in it, after all, it is the next great STL eyesore. KC is moving up and growing faster than STL in population and will sooner rather than later, pass STL in population metro. They keep their fortune 500 businesess, unlike STL that let’s Ralston run right out of town.

STL, lame, hoosiers, and to many municipalities raping each other. To much local govt and the cities 1% earnings tax…fuggedaboutit, glad I’m gone.

— STL BLOWS
9:57 pm May 8th, 2008

Point of Information - Clear Channel has not been affiliated with concert promotion for more than 2 years. It is often confused with Live Nation and they are very different entities.

— ilana barash
10:03 pm May 8th, 2008

The What High School Did you goto is simple….people want to know where you grew up? For instance….if someone went to school at Parkway North,Central,South, etc. you know you grew up in West Co. If you went to school at U City High…you know you grew up in University City.

Its not a big of a deal as all of you make it out to be?

Chicago is the same way….most people know if you grew up on the South Side of Chicago you were not as well to do as growing up on the North side….

— WestCoITGuy
10:09 pm May 8th, 2008

And yes, Saint Louis is a top 20 market. We are #18

— ilana
10:12 pm May 8th, 2008

STL BLOWS–

do you need a hug or a woman?

you must care for st. louis because you would not have ventured back to http://www.stltoday.com

dont forget st. louis metro population 3 million, chicago metro population 9 million….of course there is no comparison.

— WestCoITGuy
10:14 pm May 8th, 2008

a few points from an outsider - southern Il.
a. Madonna would sell out in minutes. if the locals didnt buy the tickets up the rest of the nation would be happy to gobble them up. ( i’m not a fan, but i do know that she’s one heck of a draw and a “sure thing” to fill the seats. i dont know that tina would be the draw, but didnt she play the hockey rink a few years ago? where are the boss, pearl jam, the who, bon jovi, my morning jacket, etc….
b. i know ALOT of people who don’t go summer shows @ “Riverport”. the venue has way too many flaws. i’ve set in traffic for 3 or 4 hours at many shows. security is a joke. plus many more reasons that are often discussed in the pop off forums. i’ve not been to rivorport in years, and it will take a top 5 band to get me back. (metrolink would solve a big problem, shame its already underfunded)
c. i think the pagiant and fox are perfect places to see a show. really looking forward to seeing what the billikens arena has to offer.
the family arena is too far off the beaten path to have the midmarket acts they carry.
pops isnt too high on my list either. if its a sellout you cant move and/or cant see the stage. mississippi nights left a huge void for touring acts. the night often pulled in acts that could have been playing at much bigger venues.

— bo
10:29 pm May 8th, 2008

We actually have FOUR 10,000 venues with the addition of Chaifetz (sp?) arena…as well as Scottrade, Family Arena and Riverport. Last year I saw Depeche Mode in KC AND Chicago, since they never come here either. What a shame…at least Rush stops by almost every tour (including the current one, on June 28)

— Jim H.
10:54 pm May 8th, 2008

Don’t need a woman, have many and STL metro is not 3 million, it is 2.8 and only becasue it keeps adding rural counties south of Farmington which is the only way STL can keep the numbers growing. The high school question is BS, to a newcomer it is rude and very unwelcoming. STL is very cold to newbies relocating. It is all about baseball, bandwagon fans, IE; the Rams and the sellout of the tickets (never would a bad Bears team in Chicago have that happen) and just plain hoosiers bitching about the end of the world with I-64 closing. Sorry STL, highway farty is reall I-64 get with the times hoosiers, remember, you guys looked like morons when Pope John Paul came to town. Who cares about the left wing media in STL scarring you guys, we all know STL has zero traffic, you guys cry if you sit for 10 minutes longer than you have to. Ahhh, Mullet City Missouri, gotta love that schietty bud light beer and some good Skynard on KSHE.

— STL BLOWS
11:19 pm May 8th, 2008

I was wondering if anyone of those commenting have ever tried to book a show in this market. There are certain people booking agents will work with if they get the okay from certain individuals within the market. In other words a small number of people are in control of the entertainment that would come into St. Louis. If they have a problem or the building your trying to utilize has a problem or the city throws a roadblock in your way there’s no way you can get your show off the ground.

— Stephen
11:35 pm May 8th, 2008

Sure, KC has a new arena which is actually smaller that Scottrade Center. Don’t forget that they don’t have a tenant like the St. Louis Blues. Artists will chose a building or location if they know for sure that their date will not be in conflict with anything else. Hannah Montana was in Scottrade Center a week before the first concert. It’s hard to commit that amount of time with a professional sports franchise also needing certain dates. With SLU’s new arena, I wouldn’t be surprised if STL takes back the title. Springfield will also have a new arena online later this year!

— Scott
11:49 pm May 8th, 2008

I think it’s horrible that soooo many concerts skip over St. Louis and for some odd reason are going to Kansas City. St. Louis is a much bigger draw. I started noticing that last year when Christina Aguilera and Justin Timberlake, who both had very successful individual tours, both went to KC but skipped St. Louis. I knew Madonna wasn’t gonna come here, she’s NEVER come to St. Louis. And with her ticket prices going for about 500.00 I doubt she will ever come here, cause people here won’t pay that kind of money to see her. But then again maybe they will because she’s never been here. But, Tina Turner skipping over the city that gave her her start is kind of odd to me. It’s all kind of big tours skipping STL:

Madonna
Tina Turner
Kanye West, Rhianna, Nerd, and Lupe
Duran Duran
George Michael
Mary J. Blige and Jay-Z
Coldplay

STL needs to be upgraded and fast!

— MarQ
3:27 am May 9th, 2008

Just to clarify what someone said - Maroon 5 has been here before and is appearing here again this summer with the Counting Crows at Riverport.

— ckiggins
6:55 am May 9th, 2008

First of all, who cares why Madonna or Tina Turner isn’t coming here. Madonna is only hitting a few US cities anyway. I’ll be going to Miami to see her. With all the negativity in these comments, I wanted to say I am a transplant into St. Louis. I have lived here for 6 years, and I LIKE the city. I am not a hoosier. My friends are all happy people who are friendly to everyone. I strike up conversations with strangers all the time. I don’t hate Chicago or Kansas City. In fact, I like both cities and don’t feel like St. Louis is in any weird “best city” competition. If that has been someone’s impression of the people in St. Louis, it’s too bad because there are a lot of people here who aren’t anything like has been described here.

— getoverit
7:29 am May 9th, 2008

The worst thing is that when they actually do have concerts at Scottrade: the beer prices. $9.75 for a 24oz beer. That’s a dollar more than hockey, baseball and football games. I feel so sorry for the vendors who are getting a quarter as the tip.

— Mark
7:36 am May 9th, 2008

Can anyone explain to me why the 2 biggest recent tours…..The Rolling Stones and The Police were here?!?!?! Madonna frankly is a wash up that wont draw the arena crowds here. Other than her 1 hit every few years she has not produced anything worthwhile since the late 80’s. I have lived in the east coast and they are rude….the whole “high School” thing is over played. I have hardly heard that in years. And if I do it is prefaced by….are you from St. Louis…then they might ask where I went to High School. But even then it is more likely a where did you grow up. It’s an ice breaker guys….get over it.

— mary
7:36 am May 9th, 2008

To STL BLOWS (very classy name, by the way):

Just the fact that you have to justify your love life to a group of bloggers that you don’t even know tells me a lot about you. It seems to me that you’re obsessed with everything St. Louis - for some reason, bashing STL makes you feel better about your self (low self-esteem?). As another blogger stated, you must have some interest in the city to keep posting comments on stltoday.com! What was the purpose of pointing out that there aren’t 3 million people, but 2.8 million people — big deal!?! I wouldn’t be so quick to judge hoosiers with mullets, because I’m sure if you posted a picture of yourself, you would have the meat-head, trashy “ceasar” haircut, because that’s how I picture you. I am not from St. Louis, but I personally love living here and am very excited about the future of the city. We’re glad you’re gone because we don’t need immature nay-sayers bringing us down.

— Laura
8:41 am May 9th, 2008

The whole concert going experience has changed for the worse. Everytime I go to a show these days, I feel like the venue, security, police, etc think they are doing me a favor by letting me give them $100.00 to come to a concert.

There used to be something special about going to see a live show-now it is just a hassle!

— Mike
8:42 am May 9th, 2008

Mike…its because you’re getting older.

The fact that Radiohead is not sold out should tell you something about this region. As other posts mentioned, we have horrible taste in music.

— James
10:27 am May 9th, 2008

I have been in St Louis for five years and I happen to love it. I am hardly a hoosier and I haven’t been asked where I went to high school in years. I don’t mind Kansas City as a town, I have been there several times and to me it seems like one big suburb. St Louis city is coming back alive and it is a very exciting time to live here. What the city could use is definitely some more industry downtown, but I have a feeling that will happen with the biomedical industry blowing up. St Louis has a great urban core with a ton of stuff to do. If you hate St Louis, why are you reading the post dispatch?

— Gwen
1:52 pm May 9th, 2008

STL Blows,
Chicago is a fabulous city and I’ve never heard anyone comparing St Louis to Chicago. Why are you reading the post dispatch? I’m sure Chicago has a fine newspaper to read. Oh yeah, one reason I love St Louis: I can own my own home in the city at 28 because St Louis is affordable!

— kfourcat
2:06 pm May 9th, 2008

Actually I read a recent survey of the top 50 media markets in the US and Saint Louis was 21st, not 18th.

— Matt
10:05 am May 12th, 2008

This years Madonna tour may be a bad example for use in this discussion. The tour consists of only seventeen cities, with three of those being in Canada. Cities like Atlantic City & Vegas are chosen for their travel potential. The union labor theory is weak - try funding a trade show at the Chicago McCormick Place. Any professional business traveler knows what I am talking about. Do yourself a favor and take in a show at Blueberry Hill. I have personally seen acts like Kathleen Edwards and Emily West lately and they are affordable, personable and a great bargain.

— Matt B.
5:13 pm May 12th, 2008

its about time we got some concerts….stop whining, your 4 hours away from chicago….Kc has been getting the shaft for years!

— bill
9:14 pm May 21st, 2008

“”Well at least we can say that we get the Dave Matthews Band at Busch Stadium this year. WHICH WILL BE AWESOME!!!!!The band is skipping Kansas City this time around!!!”"

—We already had Dave Matthews at Verizon last summer in KC. Who cares if they don’t come a second time?

— Dominic
1:05 pm May 29th, 2008

KC has been getting more shows than STL for years.

http://forum.kcrag.com/index.php?topic=14548.0

— Joe
10:19 pm June 4th, 2008