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05.07.2008 5:55 pm

An update on the STLtoday redesign

St. Louis Post-Dispatch

We’re a day into the redesign of STLtoday and we’ve made a lot of progress in addressing many issues that arose — some issues we’ve noticed ourselves, and many you’ve brought to our attention. For example, within 30 minutes of launching the new design, some of you let us know that some key links in the classified advertising section were broken. I think we got those fixed about 31 minutes after launching the redesign.

First, here’s a link to our video tutorial about the redesign. And at the bottom of this posting, you’ll see a link to our “frequently asked questions” about the redesign.

Some have asked whether we tested the site before we launched it.

Well, of course we did.

I think many people familiar with this process will agree that sometimes, you don’t really know where the problems are until you get the site out of the garage or the test track and onto the highway, in a true production environment. I won’t suggest that’s the cause of the all the problems, but it accounted for some. Here’s a few updates on our progress — along with our thank you for coming along for the ride and for those of you who offered constructive feedback.

Pop-up ads. We know some of you have had an issue with numerous pop-up ads. We’re working on that and we think (stress, think) we have figured out the problem. Please let us know if you still see it. The more detail you can provide, the better (i.e. what browser and operating system).

Can’t find the older columns. Boy, howdy, we know this was a problem. You could read current columns, but not previous ones. We’ve made progress on that, but it’s high on our list to address.

Formatting problems. You probably have noticed some pages that weren’t formatted in our new design correctly. Prep Sports, Weather, some of our guide listing pages (i.e. restaurants, bars) and others. We’re getting to them as quickly as possible.

Site map the Today’s Post-Dispatch. Oops. We thought we had’em ready — but obviously, we didn’t. The site map is up. So is Today’s Post-Dispatch — but there’s still some tweaking to do. Thank you for your patience.

Blog text formatting. We’ve made changes there to fix the lack of text formatting — bold, italic, bulleted type and set-off quotes. All fixed.

Broken links in the dropdown. Made a lot of progress stamping out bugs there, but let us know if you still see things. Some of you have made great suggestions for items that should be in the dropdown that we overlooked, so we’re adding and tweaking as needed.

Dropdown menu under ads. Ugh, yes, we know. Working on that, too, and as we ID the ads that are causing the problems, we’re taking care of it. If you have specifics on that issue, again, we’re all ears.

Forums – we increased the number of threads! We heard about this for a long time, so we’ve bumped the number of threads per page from eight to 12.

Multimedia channel. A work in progress. Thank you for your patience.

Got more questions? Don’t forget to consult the FAQ we posted here. You can also send e-mail to sitehelp@stltoday.com.

68 comments

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I must say I am surprised by all the bad feedback. While I liked the past design, I am as well a fan of the new. The white space soothes the eyes and makes the page easier to read. To the guy who said he was going to go to ksdk or myfoxstl, good luck! Those sites are horrible and ofter no NEWS. While not all is perfect, I am pleased to see the new features and look forward to logging in to STLtoday.com first thing each and every day

— HatestheCubs
9:53 pm May 7th, 2008

I no longer live in StL and access stltoday.com daily to get my fix. While the colors may be a little easier on the eyes, I am having a very difficult time finding a good list of news stories like the old site showed. This site seems to emphasize entertainment more than news. I like to think I’m open to change but really would be happiest if we could flip a switch and have the old site back.

— Dave
10:17 pm May 7th, 2008

The new website is really growing on me. At first it was a big change but Im starting to like it now. I like the new menu and being able to get around with out making four clicks through each page. Keep up the improvements

— Its grown on me
1:04 am May 8th, 2008

It looks like a couple kids designed the site in their garage. The look is very bush league and navigating it is much more diffucult.

Also, could you make the banner ad any bigger? I have to scroll down to see the top story and when I move my mouse down to click on the top story all of the dropdowns open up.

This is a terrible design. The font alone makes this look like a high school web design class were the developers.

— Kevin
10:20 am May 8th, 2008

The functional changes to the site are great, but the teal color is pretty awful next to the red in the logo and elsewhere. Aside from being visually unpleasant it makes the site look like a homemade page from the 90’s rather than the leading newspaper of a major city. If you’re going to stick with the teal perhaps you could change the red in the logo (and elsewhere) to a color that looks better. This may sound trivial but when the color scheme is so distracting/unpleasant it makes it hard to take the site seriously regardless of content/layout.

— Kyle
10:20 am May 8th, 2008

One more thing to add here.

I see above that you are already having issues with formatting, site map, broken links and the multi-media functionality is not ready yet.

Don’t you think you should have had the firm you hired test the functionality of the new site before opening up a blog explaining that you are aware of the problems?

Just my 2 cents working for a web design firm…..

— One more thing from Kevin
10:25 am May 8th, 2008

I’ve been a dedicated reader of STLtoday.com for years. As a St. Louis native living in Chicago, I’ve found your Web site an invaluable source for information and breaking news on the St. Louis region, especially your sports coverage. I also have long thought that STLtoday was one of the best designed sites around. The layout was tight and easy to read and navigate - always a pleasure to browse.

However, your recent redesign has turned me off completely. It looks like the site took a step back to the mid-90s when many Web sites were poorly designed. There’s way too much white on the site (it really hurts my eyes), and what’s up with the teal green colors? Eek! While I appreciate the attempt to improve navigation of the site, overall the site looks unorganized and disjointed. Oh, and the new fonts are way too large. I feel like I’m reading a site for people with poor vision, yet the blinding whiteness of the site makes me want to leave STLtoday as soon as I get there.

I wish you’d reconsider these changes. I know you probably think that it will just take time for readers to adjust, but really the site just looks bad now. My daily ritual of regularly checking STLtoday is already waning.

— Jason
11:38 am May 8th, 2008

I still don’t like the site. A news site should present news headlines and or summaries with links to stories as the major focus of the first page. Organize the sections just like the paper, i.e. Front Page, Local News, Sports, Business, Entertainment, etc. The blog stuff and belt should be off to the side, either left or right, pick one and be consistent (probably right so that you don’t have to scroll across to read the story content)

I ususally have multiple windows and browsers up on my screen. This site and the previous one are wider than most sites requiring scrolling from side to side. Not good.

I am glad that you are listening to SOME of the comments. Thanks for adding bolding or pre-paragraph half line space to make it easier to read. However, I am also a fan of primary colors and contrast. The muddy color text does not have enough contrast, even with the white background, making it hard to read.

The hyperlinks embedded in content are just barely different color than the content text, unless you “mouse” over them and they change color. That makes it difficult to find the hyperlinks. Hyperlinks should either be underlined or a substantially different color when embedded in text to be able to find them. The normal text color hyperlinks on the front page are OK, because a user can assume that they need to click on them to go to the actual story.

— B C
12:01 pm May 8th, 2008

After reading many other comments, I can see that the overwhelming consensus on the redesign is negative. I really hope the people at STLtoday listen to the comments and reconsider the changes.

This redesign just makes me sad. I’ve lost one of my favorite sites to get information about my hometown. I honestly can’t stand the new site. My eyes are sore from looking at it. The teal reminds me of Miami Vice. I didn’t know it was possible to turn back the clock on a Web site by 10 years, but STLtoday has done it. Please, please reconsider! I’m so disappointed.

— Jason
12:19 pm May 8th, 2008

Nice look and feel… better resembles the paper format!

Mousing over the News - Business - .. - Marketplace bar is going to take a bit of ork to get used to mousing around it in the margins when I am not looking for that, but is a really good way to get to other sections quick,

When will you return to e-mailing entire stories? Or will you forever keep the stories online, for us to revisit as needed? If not stored online, the archive will forever be without the details by only having dead links in the Yahoo “STL Articles” folder.

Thanks,
Michael

— Mike V.
12:23 pm May 8th, 2008

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