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06.13.2008 3:22 pm

“Rumor and rubbish”

St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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Where is Osama bin Laden?

An interview with an anonymous senior military analyst by NBC’s Robert Windrem explodes many of the media myths.

A “Western military analyst” was asked earlier this month about reports that Osama Bin Laden was seen on the slopes of K2, the world’s second highest mountain on the Pakistan-China border, or in the Khost Province of Afghanistan.

His response was stunning in both its honesty and its frustration.

“We don’t have a clue where he is or even may be,” the Western analyst said. “We have had NO credible intelligence on OBL since 2001. All the rest is rumor and rubbish either whipped up by the media or churned out in the power corridors of western capitals.”

In fact, say U.S. officials, the last time U.S. operatives saw Osama Bin Laden–other than in his own videos–was in the famous Predator video shot in August 2000 where he is seen walking with a security contingent near his compound at Tarnak Farms in eastern Afghanistan.  The Predators had not been armed yet. 
 
The last time the U.S. heard Osama Bin Laden was at the battle for Tora Bora, when an NSA operative overhead him giving orders on a frequency not normally monitored and not recorded.  There were some initial concerns about the identification but the agency later learned from other sources and materials that indeed that had been him. 

But that unfortunately is it. 

The interview goes through a series of popular questions people have about Osama bin Laden. Among the more interesting:

Where does he live? 
Not in caves.  The general belief, gleaned from interrogations of his compatriots, is that Bin Laden lives in one of the many mud-walled compounds that can be found along the border with Pakistan and Afghanistan.  If you fly in a chopper, you will see them–large multi-walled buildings that are continually expanded. 

How often does he move? 
Bin Laden is NOT believed to move that often, either. He does not normally change locations every night or even very frequently. He is believed to stay long periods of time–months in some instances–in one place.  In some cases, al-Qaida security personnel have married into local tribes and clans, making them part of the extended family and giving Bin Laden and others additional protection. When he does move, it is not with a large convoy of trucks…The latest information–and it is not current–is that he moves on motorbikes.  One reason is that cars and trucks can be spotted by the roving “J-Stars” aircraft.  Motorbikes cannot be as easily seen.

How is his health?
As for his health, he is 50 years old, turning 51 (according to the best estimates) in July.  He does NOT have kidney failure and does NOT need dialysis.

Who is the next most important leader?
The U.S. has deliberately put a high priority on taking out al-Qaida’s Number Threes, killing or capturing five of them since September 11.  They are the directors of international operations, the men who would organize attacks against the United States and United Kingdom. The big prize in each takedown are the computer hard drives, phonebooks and notebooks. To maintain operational security, al-Qaida requires that new courier and computer networks be formed. This obviously slows down planning.  Moreover, the U.S. believes such takedowns are one of the few things that can push OBL’s security team to pick up and move.  The hope is that U.S. spy planes see some of that movement.

In other bin Laden-related news, Pakistan promises to hit Osama bin Laden if it finds him. Well, that’s reassuring.

The most recent messages from bin Laden can be found in translation here. In it, al-Qaeda seems to be re-focusing their efforts on the “liberation of Palestine” after suffering crushing setbacks around the world, especially in Saudi Arabia and Iraq, and facing a massive drop in support for their movement in the Muslim world. Targeting Israel is most likely an effort by al-Qaeda to try to rehabilitate their badly tarnished image, hoping it will be a more popular strategy that will capitalize on the high levels of hostility towards Israel already present in most Muslim societies, as well as take the focus off al-Qaeda’s record of killing Muslims in terror operations.

These developments have prompted Israeli intelligence officials to warn that al-Qaeda may strike their country in the near future. While railing against the “Zionist occupier” in nearly every video and press release, to date al-Qaeda has never carried out an attack against Israel.

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Osama, if he’s still alive, will probably be sold out for the bounty and will be found hiding with a deadly weapon, about like Saddam Hussein.

As an armed combatant, Saddam should have been taken care of with a grenade, and the same goes for bin Laden. Why should our soldiers be injured while trying to take these people alive, as happened in the case of Saddam’s two sons?

— Senior citizen
11:16 pm June 13th, 2008

Uday and Qusay didn’t want to be captured alive and went out in a good old-fashioned gunfight. Nobody cried but their momma.

Have you kept your “Iraqi most wanted” deck of playing cards up to date? It looks like the Internet pages on that are badly out of date, but most of Saddam’s bunch have been killed in action or captured, and some have been hanged. Few will get away clean, and they’ll always have stiff necks from looking back over their shoulders.

— Enjuneer
8:15 am June 14th, 2008

The best bet for justice when bin Laden is caught is to designate him a US taxpayer. Otherwise the “WHOOSH” of US Supreme Court liberals rushing to lavish care, feeding and legal representation on a genocidal maniac would deafen us.

— Iconoclastic Sage
9:05 am June 14th, 2008

Let’s see, about the only place he hasn’t been seen is the FLDS compound in Texas. Or how about a certain ranch outside Waco?

— RHarnack
10:45 am June 14th, 2008

you wanna find OBL? tell the madison county,IL state’s attorney’s office that OBL has a baby mama somewhere near edwardsville and that he’s delinquent in child support— they will find him and he will be in court in e’ville within a week—when those evil, man hating witches on the child support enforcement crew get ahold of him, he’ll wish he had never been born

— sparky
12:19 am June 16th, 2008

That there have been no public sightings of Bin Laden since Nov 2001 or any updated still or video images in the last 5 years suggests to me he either assumed room tempurature a long time ago or has altered his appearance significantly so he can remain in hiding. If he’s still alive, I think that he moves around a lot more than people think. He’s had large network of hiding places and safehouses in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iran since the mid 1990’s.

There’s a large joint operation with American and British special ops going on right now on the Paki/Afghan border that is a serious attempt to flush him and his #2 out of hiding. The missle attack that killed several Pakistani troops a several days ago was part of it. The Pakistanis feigned outrage but quickly shut up so as not to draw scrutiny into why their soldiers were where they should not have been.

Pakistani President Musharraf will very likely be out of office before Pres Bush. When that happens, the Allies won’t be able to conduct operations like this because of Pakistani resistance. This could be the last best chance we have to find and kill bin Laden if he’s still around.

It’s tru al Qeada hasn’t been able to launch a successful attack on Israel itself, but they have murdered dozens of Jews and Israeli citizens in other attacks around the world.

— Go_Fish
9:54 am June 16th, 2008