Wow! Those gentle, misunderstood guys held at Gitmo by the evil Americans REALLY like HEROES, aren’t they??

Talking to himself:
“Maybe I should’ve not gone to that training camp.
Maybe I shouldn’t have hung around with those guys.
Hey… Maybe when/if I get out I can get a lawyer, a book contract, a movie deal.
Ah, won’t Ackmed and the gang be impressed.
Lawyer, movie rights … maybe a couple of willing dupes at a Midwestern newspaper to support my cause.
But what paper in America would be dumb enough to trumpet my story … ignore my complicity … make me a victim … then into a hero.
Hmmm… What paper? Who would be so foolish?”


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Gitmo and Abu Ghraib were really well handled and the whole “enemy combatant” system has been a great thing for the United States.

It was a Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld operation. How could it be otherwise?

There is nothing we possibly could learn from the experience. No need to watch documentaries such as this, where commanders and intelligence officers who were on the ground tell what really happened.

And who cares that scores of retired general officers were saying from the start that the system was a terrible mistake that was sure to tarnish the honor of our armed forces and would endanger soldiers who might themselves become captive.

And, heaven knows, we shouldn’t accept responsibility for anything that might have gone wrong.

To the contrary, the best thing to do when unpleasant stuff crops up is to change the subject, engage in extreme sarcasm, demonize those we have detained, a large percentage of whom turned out to be just shepherds not combatants, scores of men held for years without counsel, without contact with their families, subjected who knows what kind of interrogation and punishment before their status finally was looked into and they were cleared.

No wonder you guys post anonymously. Shame on both of you.

Give me a break. With the right music, background and forboding sounded voices, one could garner sympathy for Charles Manson.

“ Torture, American style. The documentary. By Eddie Roth ”

What was I thinking? Just presumed it was another reflexively liberal Blame America First treat.

Odds were 8:1 it was … so who wouldn’t come to the same conclusion?

One reviewer said “(a) compelling example of video story-telling.”

Story-telling.

Did the reviewer see a clinical, no-slant presentation or something loaded with point-of-view, ominous images, dramatic looming-danger music? Watch the show and you’ll see it is not a straight documentary.

“…a large percentage of whom turned out to be just shepherds not combatants…” Bet you wish you could take that gem back, eh?

Would my comment be any less accurate were it not anonymous —- no. As you’ve previously responded to my e-mails, I’m not unknown to you.

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In Budapest there is a Museum, “the House of Terror”, it is where the Iron Arrow (Nazi) and later the communist regimes held people, beat them, kept them in lit and unlit cells, and is a stark and moving reminder of the evils perpetrated not only at the headquarters, but throughout Hungary.

The treatment in this excerpt is the same sort used by the totalitarians. May be Kruschev was presecient — we have fallen into the communist mindset. Ill treatment results in unreliable information and show confessions, not good information.

Eddie,

This isn’t a documentary. It is anti-American propaganda. I am sure you are not uncomfortable with that. You should be ashamed.

By the way, I’ve been through POW trainging, including the stuff in the documentary.

The whole Guantanomo matter is very disappointing. Our nation’s prestige in the world is much less. Basic principles of “innocent until proven guilty”are being ignored. Some may argue that such constituitional rights don’t apply outside the U.S. However this principle is one advocate by Judaiasm, Christianity, and Islam as well as other religions and nations. Others argue that it is a time of war. Even then, locking up and torturing people without their day in court is supposed to make us feel safe.

Some of us Americans don’t seem to care about our reputation in world or simply take it for granted. We may not truly appreciate what we have until it is completely gone.