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05.15.2008 6:09 pm

Phyllis v. Ike v. Nelly

St. Louis Post-Dispatch

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One more quick question before Phyllis Schlafly gets her honorary sheepskin (from an honorary sheep, perhaps) from Washington University on Friday….

Though the situations are not precisely parallel, the controversy nonetheless recalls two other recent honors kerfluffles:

• Mayor Clarence Harmon’s refusal in 2000 to issue a proclamation in honor of Nelly, the local rap superstar. Nelly fans were outraged. Mr. Harmon’s successor, Francis Slay, countermanded that decision in 2001.

• But Mr. Slay last year refused to extend similar recognition to rock ‘n roll pioneer Ike Turner, earning the mayor raspberries from rock fans across the nation.

Phyllis, Nelly and Ike — who had the biggest impact on American life and letters?

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I’ll take the bait.

Ike Turner was a drug-addled musician with a penchant for beating women.

Nelly is a semi-literate rap “artist” whose “music” (like most all rap music) celebrates thugs, drugs and misogyny.

Phyllis Schlafly is a Phi Beta Kappa graduate of Washington University, a graduate of Washington University Law School, and she received a Master’s in Political Science from Harvard University at the age of 20. She’s authored or edited 20 books, and her radio commentaries are heard on 500 stations. Ladies Home Journal named her one of the 100 Most Important Women of the 20th century, and Good Housekeeping named her one of the 10 Most Admired Women in the world. In her spare time, she raised 6 kids and stood as a beacon for conservative family values against a tidal wave of progressive decadence.

Ask most anyone on the oh-so-nuanced left, however, and you’ll hear that Ike Turner was a rock and roll pioneer, Nelly is a thoughtful urban poet, and Phyllis Schafly is an anti-intellectual threat to women everywhere.

— Bart Johnson
8:40 pm May 15th, 2008

Bart:

I think you nailed this one… well said. I would add only this:

I think Horrigan must have the Hots for Mrs. Schlafly. He will not leave her alone… Gee Kevin, get a room!

— tsquare
8:44 pm May 15th, 2008

Mr. Johnson- I place myself firmly on the left and I agree with your analysis. Perhaps you should mingle with some lefties instead of assuming you “know” them. Please don’t tell me some of your best friends are left wingers. By the way, Ike Turner was a pioneer but that doesn’t excuse his behavior-it’s possible to be good at one thing and really, really bad at another, wouldn’t you agree?

— slamfist
10:00 pm May 15th, 2008

PLEASE promise that this will go away after tomorrow. How much more can be said on the subject without putting us all to sleep?

As a graduating MBA, I once asked a professor what it really took to get a PhD. He said “Just time and money; you just grind what you already know a little finer.” Hearing that, it didn’t seem worth the bother, even if the boss picked up the tab.

— Robert H
11:41 pm May 15th, 2008

Maybe a rap song would be acceptable to Washington University and Schlafly rapping about how if a man loves to over power women he should just marry a woman to get his fix because Phyllis Schlafly saids, it can’t be rape.

Marry a B, rape your wife whenever you like

Because Phyllis Schlafly said’s, it can’t be rape.

You can get your fix whenever you want

Because Phyllis Schlafly saids, it can’t be rape.

Overpower the B whenever you want

Because Phyllis Schlafly say it can’t be rape…

My God, why is Mrs. Schlafly so self righteous and unable to admit her error in making such a destructivly wrong statement. As far as Washington University, it is disappointing but not surprising that they would allow donor money to trump their principles.

I may be wrong and those at Washington U. who have decided to honor her may share her view that a husband cannot be guilty of raping his wife. Washington University should issue a staement regarding where it stand on at least that that issue.

— D. Walker
12:37 am May 16th, 2008

Here’s a random sampling of Nelly’s lyrical “letters.” Don’t know about you, but I’m just swelling with civic pride.

[Editor’s note: Bart then pasted in what apparently are lyrics of a Nelly song, a fair amount of which violate our prohibition on profanity, as Bart surely knows. We’re deleting the lyrics.]

— Bart Johnson
8:30 am May 16th, 2008