Billy Devaney should legally changing his name to Silly Delusional.

not since George Boone teamed up with Billy Bidwill ahev we seen reaches and whiffs like this. Moving to LA as soon as the lease runs out…

wow, that’s the best he has to offer? Yeah, you’re going to get a couple of iffy players somewhere along the line, but I don’t think they managed even 2 picks with real upside potential. Terrible performance, shocking really, after all the off-season moves. I wonder what Spags is thinking after Devaney’s non-performance today.

cant expect to much in the late rounds check out the videos on nfl.com on these guys not to bad remember brady was in the 6 rd

I meant even 2 picks today…yesterday was fine.

My guess is many of the later picks today will be fill in players, 2nd and 3rd string guys. Can’t expect much this late, but recall Tom Brady in the 6th round. Many of these late round players probably won’t even make the team.Its too bad Devaney and company didn’t take an earlier WR. What we have at this point is a bunch of untested WR players. That could be a problem next season. We could have new WR players and a new starting QB by 2010.

I didn’t have a problem with the first 2 rounds but they lost me with the choice in round 3. I thought there were other players available that would have been a much better choice. I know they did not take the best player available. I thought they might reach in 3 or 4 for a QB or a RB.

I love how everyone is ripping Devaney. Who was Donnie Avery last year? The Rams took Avery over Devin Thomas and everyone bitched. Who was john Greco last year? Both are starters on the Rams. Just because you don’t know the player doesn’t mean he is a reach.

Mel Kiper’s highest rated player ever coming out of college was Reggie Bush and he ripped the Texans for not taking him. The Texans took Mario Williams who is now a pro bowler.

Mel Kiper and Todd McShay were never scouts for an NFL team. I could do what they do and so could you. They are just TV analyst.

I am trying to figure out what all the griping is about on this website. The Rams addressed need with every pick. They scored big with the first two picks, added solid role players in the mid rounds, and went for potential in the late rounds. Why are people already wanting to fire Devaney?

When you add this draft to re-signing Bartell and Atogwe, adding a starting center that will add leadership to the line, adding a true fullback, blocking tight end, and young wide receiver, and bringing in a stellar coaching staff, (not to mention ridding the team of some of the mistakes of the past) this has been a very good off season for a team that hasn’t had much to cheer about lately.

ram-a-lot, a big +1 there

Hey mathew and Ram-a-lot, you guys are a couple of yes men. Devaney had a chance to fill some needs with players who have a chance to make it with these picks and instead overreached to get guys who could have been picked much later or signed as a FA tomorrow.
Donnie Avery is a decent reciever but could have been drafted in the late 3rd of 4th round last year so he is a perfect example of how not to draft rather than an example of a ‘good’ pick. Even Laurianitis at was a reach at #35 with better ILBs on the board at the time. Rams could have traded down to get more picks and still have gotten him.
Null? Gimme a break. He will be Null and void in August after a couple of weeks in camp.

Thanks Ram-A-Lot atleast someone has some sense. How about we leave it up to the new braintrust that we have and not pretend that all of us overweight 30 and 40 year olds know who to draft!!

Wow…give it a chance already. This team is already way better than it was last year. Quit jumping to conclusions and freakin out, especially when you sell insurance or fix cars or something. Let the new management do their thing before you want to lynch somebody.

Ram-o-rama. Is that your stage name?
We’re all entitled to opinions. I hope I’m dead wrong and most of these guys go on to help the Rams improve and win. As we all know, there is a lot of room for improvement.
All I’m saying is that for a team like the Rams who have myriad needs, the draft is a chance to get people who can fill some holes and make some plays for you. You don’t need to be dislocating your shoulder by reaching so far to find a sleeper. Heck, ’sure-fire, can’t miss’ guys sometimes can’t fire and often miss. There’s no reason to try to look smarter than the next guy by going off the board to pick a flyer.
It’s disappointing to me that the rams didn’t get some of the people available when they had a chance. And a couple of the guys they got could have been gotten later.

Devaney,
I thought hiring Spags was a great move, and getting rid of Linehan and Haslett seemed the right thing to do. some of the early player moves seemed good, so I give him some slack for Pace and Holt. Then the draft. The first 2 picks were good (not great) but more importantly, safe. But the day 2 picks…..not good. Seem like all will be gone in 2 years (although, historically teams like to keep their picks around for a while to make it look good.) No one looks like potential starters. Hope I am wrong, but I give Devaney a D for his draft grade.

stud lineman, never gives up on a play, 1st round which was biggest need, mlb that dropped a little but butkus finalist, corner who bloomed late but good size and speed did well in senior bowl, 4 yr starting dt with good size that could benefit from good coaching, wr who is strongest at his position and didnt get many thrown his way because of other 1st rounders on team, a qb to develop, a physical rb. sounds like a great draft to me

I remember when everyone was happy that we got Claude Wroten and Dominic Byrd in the third round. Claude Wroten had first round potential and Dominic Byrd could have been a second round pick and everyone was happy. Last year we took Donnie Avery and John Greco and everyone was like so what. Everyone said we should have took Devin Thomas. Avery was a hugh reach. Blah Blah.

Donnie Avery, Kennon Burton and John Greco all will start or play significant minutes next year while Byrd and Wroten are long gone.

I’m sorry, but I do believe in what Devaney and Spags are building. They are actually listening to their scouts and making the best pick that fits their system and philosophy.

What a disaster! Smith a need but the Rams are natorious for drafting linemen that are busts. Picket, Lewis, Kennedy, possibly Carriker, and maybe even Long and many more! This team never drafts playmakers! They take Laurinaitis over Maualuga! Did anyone in the midwest see the OSU vs USC game this year? USC - 32, OSU - 3! Whose D played better? I’ve watched Maualuga for 4 years at USC and he’s an animal! I wanted the Rams to pick him at #2 instead or Curry! This is the same ole conservative, save money, gutless, don’t take any chances, boring and losing Rams. I don’t see any difference with this management team and the John Shaw, Zygmunt and Gerogia loosers! God, I’ve followed this team since 1946 when they moved to LA and I’d like to go back to the days when they had some guts and played football! Here we go again, 4-12 in 2009…..

Mathew - no need to apologize. You’re a yes man with blinders on. We understand.
Now go back to painting your face blue and gold so you’re ready for training camp. Get there early so you can see some of these draft picks before they’re asked to leave.

i cant believe ther is so many experts on draft day..give them a break..they told you they got alot of needs,they took who they thought was the best man for the job…billy and company are alot more smarter then you so call experts.they were ther….they research alot of players…..they know what ther all about…so keep the faith,and lighten up……go rams

Deere John - Hurry before the short bus leaves! Matthew already took your favorite seat up front but maybe the two of you can share so you’ll both get to earth city for training camp at exactly the same time!

did you really write this - ‘billy and company are alot more smarter then you so call experts.they were ther….’?

SOUNDS LIKE A COMPLETE COPOUT! “…As you get down in the draft, everybody’s board kind of falls apart. You probably start reaching a little bit to fill a need. You try to stay close within a grade…” That’s a comment of a loser… I’m sorry. You don’t hear Bill Bellichek talking about rounds 3-7 like it’s no big deal to reach or boo hoo the board starts falling apart. What kind of comment is that? That’s an excuse and unacceptable. Could you imagine Lombardi or any other WINNER making a comment like that? I mean that’s like showing up late to a job interview and making an excuse that traffic was bad…

quit crying and start supporting the rams go rams

KMac dont let that door hit you in the behind on your way off the bandwagon and out the door. Wont miss ya.

A WINNER acts as if EVERY pick is the most important pick no matter the round…not to make excuses about the board falling apart.

Seahawks take the franchise tag off Leroy Hill! Do you think the Rams have the guts to go after him?????? I doubt it….. It might cost them a buck or two……

KMac, listen up. Being cynical is not actually smart. You say that Avery could have been had later, but what are you basing that on? The opinions of guys like Mike Mayock, Todd McShay, and Mel Kiper? I listened to these guys talk for two days, and they have virtually no idea what teams are going to actually draft. They give opinions while the teams are on the clock, and then the team inevitably goes a totally different way. You think many of the “experts” saw Jacksonville drafting two OTs with their first two picks? This idea that you know when these guys are going to be taken is absurd. In addition, it doesn’t do a damn bit of good if you are drafting “late” in a round.

The Rams’ scouts put their board together. There weren’t many big CBs available in this draft, and they play in a division where big WRs live. This guy is athletic, strong, and he’s a sure tackler. Those are things that don’t exist on the Rams’ roster outside of Ron Bartell. If they felt like he was going to be taken late in the 3rd round, then they had to take him when they did or trade down. Just because there were guys you would have rather had doesn’t make them better. This team has 4 DEs and there were no sure-fire WRs still on the board. Those were the positions that there was a rush on in that round.

By all accounts, this was a relatively weak draft. The Rams were able to improve their OLine and their LB core. They added a talented CB to compete against the likes of Justin King and Tye Hill. They added a big, quick, physical DT to add to the rotation with Carriker and Ryan. The QB pick doesn’t look smart, but maybe there is something better there.

Just because I don’t write these kids off before they play doesn’t make me a “yes man.” I don’t even know what the hell that’s supposed to mean. Ultimately, as a fan, it’s much more fun to look forward to watching these guys grow than what it is to piss and moan like I’m some expert on what it takes to translate college skills to pro skills. If that kind of self-egrandizing is important to you, then knock yourself out. I personally have a three-year rule when evaluating anything in the NFL. If by the 2011 season all of these guys are gone; Donnie Avery, Keenan Burton, John Greco, et al have washed out; and this coaching staff has proven itself unready; then I’ll be right there calling for the Rams to try a different direction.

I’m sure a lot of you guys will be at cheerleader tryouts.
Go Rams go!
Gimme a break.
Blind faith and hero worship has caused a lot of trouble throughout history. Supporting your team does not mean you have to agree with everything they do.
The Rams stepped in it. Doesn’t mean you have to as well.

(Be sure to keep those legs and pits shaved for the tryouts.)

We should all listen to Kmac. Clearly, a man who manages a Staples for a living (or whatever he does) knows a heckuva LOT more than a respected, highly-compensated football man like Billy Devaney.

What’s wrong with you people??

KMac,

I understand people who listen to Todd McShay and Mel Kiper along with other draft idiots that run around and say the sky like when the Rams drafted Donnie Avery over Devon Thomas last year. Kiper and McShay also, loved our Jon Alston, Claude Wroten and Domic Byrd picks. And when the Rams picked Jason Shivers with the fifth pick in the 2004 draft, Kiper who rated him as second round pick proclaimed that the pick was the steal of the draft. Shivers never made the team.

The draft is a crap shoot after the first round and you need to rely on your scouts in order to assess talent that translates to your offensive or defensive schemes.

Devaney did a great job last year picking players that fit our offensive and defensive schemes. We had 6 players from last years draft that started from us last year and 5 that will probably be full time starters next year.

Frank - surely you don’t think that Billy Delusional is a respected football man just because he is highly compensated. There is no direct correlation between salary and competence. Silly Devaney is just another example of this.

By the way, do you know the man at Staples? Could you hook me up? I’d love to work there. It’d be great. You, me, Ram-a-lot, matthew… we could get together in the warehouse and practice our cheers.

Go you big strong Ramses, go!

Uhhh, matthew… the reason the rams have so many draft picks playing is cuz they don’t have any other good players.
They’ve picked second two years in a row. Yes, quite an accomplishment in a league of parity. But they managed to pull it off.
If more than 3 of this years draftees play significant time this coming season, the Rams might get to pick first in the 2010 draft.
Won’t that be fun?

I tried to spin this in my mind that it was a good draft. I read and reread the opinions of smart people who saw these kids play and work out. Each and every pick of the second day was a massive reach. I really don’t have a problem with Fletcher or the D-lineman from Clemson, but I do have a problem with when we selected them. Both would’ve been there in the fifth or sixth round. It made more sense to get a receiver or two in the third and fourth round. Johnny Knox, Juaquin Iglesias and Ramses Barden would’ve made more sense than reaching for two guys who have some red flags. Even worse, Devaney takes a quarterback with arm strength issues and very likely would still be waiting for a phone call now if Devaney didn’t take him.

I can live with the Foster pick, although I would’ve preferred a receiver with some return ability and the final pick could be the third down back we don’t have on our roster. Still, by reading Devaney’s comments, it is pretty obvious to me that he was way out of his league with this draft. Statements like our draft board fell apart and you try to stay close to a grade do not fill me with confidence that he can turn it around.

We draft Smith to protect Biulger, then don;t draft anyone for him to throw too? We had Barden sitting there in the third round and later on the Giants traded up for the guy, a 6′6 wideout from Cal-Poly who would have been a gem for us..Guys, don’t try and make this anything other than what it was in day 2..it was totally brutal..

What, They are not looking for a WR? They actually expect Fosters to play. Devaney is dumber than I thought. Listening to Devaney’s explanation about his picks, he doesn’t sound like he even likes them. Did they not know that they had better options at each round and did not have to reach so badly. Once again frustrated with the rams.

KMac - are you really kevin slaten? anything to gripe about. Mizzou, LaRussa, now Devaneys first draft. Most drafts cannot really be graded for a couple of years, so chill a little.

Buzz, old larry, Deere Joh, Ram-a-lot, matthew, Ram-o-rama, Ram-a-lamma-ding-dong and all of you other blind followers, please get a clue. Devaney appears to be a nice man but that and $4.75 will get you a tall coffee at Starbucks.
As So cal, Montauk and Cleveland have added, this draft is daft. some of thes guys will play. But players that cold have been picked at these same spots will likely be better players than the ones Billy D selected. other than confusion in the draft room, i can’t think of good reasons to take these guys where we did. And Null… don’t even go there.

KMac, thamnosma, Clevelandram, So cal rams fan…spot on. Does anyone think for a second that real winners are ever satisfied? And I don’t want to hear about Avery, Greco, and Burton, because face it, would they START on more than 1/2 the teams in this league? Totally concur Devaney seemed completely outclassed, outmatched, unprepared… Look at the Cowboys. They had admiteddly 3 players they wanted that were picked before they got them…what did they do? They turned it into 12 picks. Face it, Spagnuolo will try and RUN, RUN, RUN the ball…keep his defense off the field…play posession football, field position control. That’s what you do when you don’t have depth or talent.

I had high hoppes for Devaney and this draft. Oh, well.

this dude brook foster is hella strong he did 27 reps of 225 and runs a 4.41…

Why is everyone one so sure WR isn’t covered. Both Avery and Burton did as well as could be expected for the kind of passes they wer getting. With Stanley, Robinson, and maybe still Looker, not to mention the tightends, and Bulger protected making decent throws we can make catches. They always pick up players in the late rounds to cover their bases and that’s when the “sleepers” get discovered to make up for the sure-bet flops some of you seem to feel would have come with a guarantee. If the scouts, GM’s and coaches can all be wrong so can self appointed authorities.

Can someone give me some cheese to go with all this whine? Holy crap..give the guys a break! What a bunch of pessimist. Save all your bitching for a couple of years — only then will you be able to rate this draft. And quit lumping the draft picks prior to last year in with the new FO — they had nothing to do with the bad picks that we’re having to live with today. Can you at least give the new group a year before you start the bashing?

KMac, are you the prez of the pessimists club?

KMAC
I’ll bet you work for the Post Office…That’s where the real braintrust comes from….